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Public School vs Catholic School

Jenrak
08-08-2005, 20:35
I don't really know the difference. What is the difference, except for easier grades in Catholic School.

And I have proof! See, this one time...

*Everyone leaves*
The Kea
08-08-2005, 20:49
It depends. Public schools are socialist and failing, but Catholic schools are sometimes even more socialist and failing.
Jenrak
08-08-2005, 20:51
They seem to be more oligarchial to me.
Sinuhue
08-08-2005, 20:54
I'm sorry, but the school that has 'religious studies' as required components of the curriculum is just not going to attract me.
Ashmoria
08-08-2005, 20:54
in catholic school you get to have an actual christmas pagent with angels and the baby jesus and everything

you also get to make anti-abortion posters in 3rd grade
Cheese Burrito
08-08-2005, 20:59
It depends. Public schools are socialist and failing, but Catholic schools are sometimes even more socialist and failing.

Maybe in your area, but where I'm at, they are the ones who really excell at everything. Including math, science, reading skills, etc. You pay for the better education.
Jenrak
08-08-2005, 21:01
Someone agrees that I'm l337! Yes!
UpwardThrust
08-08-2005, 21:02
I was in a catholic school for k -6 and public from 7-12

I have to say while the small classes were nice in k-6 they were also very static and restrictive … fine for the first few years but more sickening the older I got I cant imagine the drama when we hit teen years

I also personally learned more in public school specially with the reduced time I had to devote to religious classes/ceremony (everything from weekly mass to being conscripted to be an alter boy)
Jenrak
08-08-2005, 21:09
Kool. My cousin is in Cathlic School, and he brags about his 'awesome times' at it.
Clocha Liath
08-08-2005, 21:10
I am from the republic of Ireland, where Catholic schools are basically public schools.

We study religion for 2 hours a week, all my classmates enjoy these 2 hours, we discuss all religious beliefs and debate their merits or otherwise.

We gain an insight into other cultures and ways of life.

My school is neither prestigious nor famous, it is an ordinary run-of-the-mill school founded by nuns over 100 years ago. I am proud to go to this school, I am a practising Roman Catholic, but have not had this religion forced upon me by my school. My school simply required that we covered the relevant curriculum, ensured that we had ALL the facts about all religions and left us to our own devices.

We have prayer in our school and we are under the patronage of our local Bishop, just like most Irish secondary schools. And just like my classmates, I look foward to my 3 classes a week when I know that we will be treated like equals and will have the opportunity to voice our beliefs and worries.
UpwardThrust
08-08-2005, 21:11
Kool. My cousin is in Cathlic School, and he brags about his 'awesome times' at it.
Yeah how much basis for comparison does he have?
Poliwanacraca
08-08-2005, 21:12
All hail the private secular school, best of both worlds! :D
Sinuhue
08-08-2005, 21:13
in catholic school you get to have an actual christmas pagent with angels and the baby jesus and everything

you also get to make anti-abortion posters in 3rd grade
Yeah, but you don't get to celebrate Hanukkah or make pro choice posters....
Sinuhue
08-08-2005, 21:14
Maybe in your area, but where I'm at, they are the ones who really excell at everything. Including math, science, reading skills, etc. You pay for the better education.
In Canada, Catholic schools are public too.
UpwardThrust
08-08-2005, 21:14
Yeah, but you don't get to celebrate Hanukkah or make pro choice posters....
But you get to have your priest teach sex ed (I am serious) :p
Sinuhue
08-08-2005, 21:15
But we all know that Catholic school girls rule... :D
UpwardThrust
08-08-2005, 21:16
But we all know that Catholic school girls rule... :D
And I want to say it is all a pack of lie's ... my classmates were and are still bitches lol
Morvonia
08-08-2005, 21:16
i love public school because itis less stricked.


but alot of my friends go to private catholic schools and all the girls who go there are so hot in the uniforms :D (i am a dude)
Ifreann
08-08-2005, 21:21
I am from the republic of Ireland, where Catholic schools are basically public schools.

We study religion for 2 hours a week, all my classmates enjoy these 2 hours, we discuss all religious beliefs and debate their merits or otherwise.

We gain an insight into other cultures and ways of life.

My school is neither prestigious nor famous, it is an ordinary run-of-the-mill school founded by nuns over 100 years ago. I am proud to go to this school, I am a practising Roman Catholic, but have not had this religion forced upon me by my school. My school simply required that we covered the relevant curriculum, ensured that we had ALL the facts about all religions and left us to our own devices.

We have prayer in our school and we are under the patronage of our local Bishop, just like most Irish secondary schools. And just like my classmates, I look foward to my 3 classes a week when I know that we will be treated like equals and will have the opportunity to voice our beliefs and worries.

I too go to an Irish secondary school,but we have a terrible religion teacher

Here he is on ratemyteachers.com (http://www.ratemyteachers.ie/schools/ireland/kilcullen/cross_and_passion_college/dennis__denehy)

We use one religion class a week to talk about whatever we want,and to do our homework.the pther two are good,we get speakers in from outside the school to talk about various topics,the most notable being a man called Zoltan,a holocaust survivor.
Nowoland
08-08-2005, 21:25
I'm sorry, but the school that has 'religious studies' as required components of the curriculum is just not going to attract me.
Good thing you're not in Germany then - if you're catholic or protestant then "religious studies" is a required component of the curriculum. If you are neither you have to take "ethics" (which is very interesting as in that group are all the atheists, muslims, and non cath/prot christians like Jehovas witnesses (at least it was that way in Bavaria))
Sinuhue
08-08-2005, 21:26
i love public school because itis less stricked. You're not doing the public school system any favours right now... :D
Anarchic Conceptions
08-08-2005, 21:28
In Canada, Catholic schools are public too.

In Britain public schools are private :)
Ifreann
08-08-2005, 21:32
....all the girls who go there are so hot in the uniforms :D (i am a dude)

clearly,well all the schools in ireland(well the vast majority) before university have uniforms.it's not 'hot' at all.in fact i live for 'civvies days',days where we dont have to wear our uniforms.the girls definately look 'hot' then
Blu-tac
08-08-2005, 21:32
in catholic school you get to have an actual christmas pagent with angels and the baby jesus and everything

you also get to make anti-abortion posters in 3rd grade

Wish I'd gone to a catholic, school, I have to make thm in my spare time, all the teachers at my school are suprisingly liberal. I have to keep arguing with them to bring them back to the real world...

EDIT: My school is private too!
Ice Hockey Players
08-08-2005, 21:34
I went to a public school and got a pretty good education; my fiancee went to a Catholic school and got a decent education as well. It's really hit-or-miss. She was bogged down with stupid rules; stupid rules at my school were more annoying than hindering. I also didn't get fined left and right the way she and her classmates did.

She wants to send our unborn kids to a Catholic school but I pretty much won't hear of it. No son of mine will go to a school that will fine him for cutting his hair the way he wants (I cut mine extremely short, and according to her, that wouldn't have been permitted...that's even more ridiculous than all the "skinhead" comments i got in school.)
UpwardThrust
08-08-2005, 21:34
Wish I'd gone to a catholic, school, I have to make thm in my spare time, all the teachers at my school are suprisingly liberal. I have to keep arguing with them to bring them back to the real world...

EDIT: My school is private too!
At least they are pointing you in the right direction :p (pun intended)
Jenrak
08-08-2005, 21:34
Oh my....

on another note, 2 people! Yay!
Sinuhue
08-08-2005, 21:34
In Britain public schools are private :)
ROFLMAO
Clocha Liath
08-08-2005, 21:35
Ifreann, I think that the relligion teacher plays a large part in whether or not you like the subject.

I've had the same religion teacher since first year, and she is an absolute legend. She too is on www.ratemyteachers.ie, it was thanks to her effort that I got my A grade in religion for the Junior Cert. She even came back from her holiday in Spain to ask us how we felt the exam went, after we had finished the paper.

She is one of the best teachers I have ever had the fortune of meeting.
Ashmoria
08-08-2005, 21:36
i love public school because itis less stricked.


that reminds me of the other big difference between public schools and catholic schools (in the us anyway)

public schools (for the most part) are of the "whole language" philosophy of teaching. catholic schools are (for the most part) rabidly anti-whole language

hence the incredibly bad spelling skills of public school students in the US.
Anarchic Conceptions
08-08-2005, 21:38
ROFLMAO

True.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_School_%28UK%29
UpwardThrust
08-08-2005, 21:38
that reminds me of the other big difference between public schools and catholic schools (in the us anyway)

public schools (for the most part) are of the "whole language" philosophy of teaching. catholic schools are (for the most part) rabidly anti-whole language

hence the incredibly bad spelling skills of public school students in the US.
Hey I have horrible spelling and I learned it in catholic school lol

I just realize this so I type everything up in word to spell check it.
Blu-tac
08-08-2005, 21:39
At least they are pointing you in the right direction :p (pun intended)

What? they're left-wing, only me and my friends are right-wing. most of the class have been taken in by the propaganda put out by hollywood and the media. but not me, I can keep my distance.
Cabra West
08-08-2005, 21:41
I've been to a Catholic girl's school in Germany, and I loved it. I still feel some sort of connection to that school. I had a great time, and got a very good and solid education and, most importantly, was taught to stand up and to think for myself.
The teachers at my school were very dedicated, and very involved with us students. It was a very personal atmosphere, and it was nice to know that the teachers were actually looking out for you, helping you as best as they could, wether the problem was school-related or not.

As my school was run by a Jesuitic convent, I was taught critical thought, I was taught to challenge all authority if I felt they were wrong, and to derive my own set of morals rather than accepting those of any group.

I've been to public school only during my primary school, so I don't have any real comparisson, but judging from what I know of the other public schools in my home town, mine was definitely the best by far :D
Sinuhue
08-08-2005, 21:44
True.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_School_%28UK%29
Oh I believed you right off...but the delicious irony of the term...
UpwardThrust
08-08-2005, 21:44
What? they're left-wing, only me and my friends are right-wing. most of the class have been taken in by the propaganda put out by hollywood and the media. but not me, I can keep my distance.
Thats why it was a stupid sort of anti pun
Sinuhue
08-08-2005, 21:46
Now, aside from our public Catholic schools, we also have the repercussions of the religiously run Residential Schools for natives. Either Catholic or Anglican, these schools attempted to erase our cultural identity, and were rife with physical, cultural and sexual abuse. Many natives still refuse to allow their children to attend Catholic schools, even though they are nothing like Residential schools.
Blu-tac
08-08-2005, 21:51
Thats why it was a stupid sort of anti pun

mmmm..... :rolleyes: I still don't agree with the teachers. I pay £8000 per year to have liberal ideals pumped into me subliminally. But i realise, and I rise up against the forces of evil, and thats why I want to go to a catholic school, despite the fact I'm not religious, I'm just conservative. Cus the issue of abortion really makes me angry to see such arrogance at disposing of human life.
UpwardThrust
08-08-2005, 21:52
mmmm..... :rolleyes: I still don't agree with the teachers. I pay £8000 per year to have liberal ideals pumped into me subliminally. But i realise, and I rise up against the forces of evil, and thats why I want to go to a catholic school, despite the fact I'm not religious, I'm just conservative. Cus the issue of abortion really makes me angry to see such arrogance at disposing of human life.
Sheesh really trying to troll here ... sorry not biting
Eris Illuminated
08-08-2005, 21:54
mmmm..... :rolleyes: I still don't agree with the teachers. I pay £8000 per year to have liberal ideals pumped into me subliminally. But i realise, and I rise up against the forces of evil, and thats why I want to go to a catholic school, despite the fact I'm not religious, I'm just conservative. Cus the issue of abortion really makes me angry to see such arrogance at disposing of human life.


Wait . . . my telepathic abilitys are telling me . . . you have no problem with the death penalty.
Blu-tac
08-08-2005, 21:58
Wait . . . my telepathic abilitys are telling me . . . you have no problem with the death penalty.

People with the death penalty deserve what they get, aborted babies don't deserve what they get. Convicts have done something wrong, fetuses haven't, if anybody has its their parents. And compared to the number of abortions in america last year, the number executed was second to none.
Cabra West
08-08-2005, 22:00
People with the death penalty deserve what they get, aborted babies don't deserve what they get. Convicts have done something wrong, fetuses haven't, if anybody has its their parents. And compared to the number of abortions in america last year, the number executed was second to none.

A simple "no" would have sufficed... :D
Eris Illuminated
08-08-2005, 22:00
People with the death penalty deserve what they get, aborted babies don't deserve what they get. Convicts have done something wrong, fetuses haven't, if anybody has its their parents. And compared to the number of abortions in america last year, the number executed was second to none.

And there you have it folks, respect for life.
Blu-tac
08-08-2005, 22:02
And there you have it folks, respect for life.

I have mopre respect for life than liberals, the reasons I support the death penalty is purely economic, why support these people with tax-payers money when they have robbed and murdered the tax-payers relatives. what have babies done? absolutely nothing.
Tannelorn
08-08-2005, 22:04
Private schools [not the catholic ones] tend to be better where i am, but like pretty much everywhere they sacrifice real learning for religous instruction. Useless stuff really that makes you kind of half witted lol.
ChuChulainn
08-08-2005, 22:06
Good thing you're not in Germany then - if you're catholic or protestant then "religious studies" is a required component of the curriculum. If you are neither you have to take "ethics" (which is very interesting as in that group are all the atheists, muslims, and non cath/prot christians like Jehovas witnesses (at least it was that way in Bavaria))

Ditto for Northern Ireland although I was taught about Judaism as well as Catholicism and Protestantism. It could still do with some more religions being included though
Eris Illuminated
08-08-2005, 22:07
I have mopre respect for life than liberals, the reasons I support the death penalty is purely economic, why support these people with tax-payers money when they have robbed and murdered the tax-payers relatives. what have babies done? absolutely nothing.

What babys? We're talking about a fetus NOT a baby. As for the death penalty what of those who turn out to have been convicted by mistake? Anyway . . .[/THREADJACK]
New Strata
08-08-2005, 22:13
Besides the fact that if our hair touches our ears we get kicked out, besides the fact that (even though it was easy for them to do this since the school is small) they decided if one student screwed up it was all of the boys fault and everybody got punished. It was a complete sexist school in my opinion and the teachers can be morons sometimes.
I went to preschool-8th in there and am starting at a catholic high school.

The teachers hated us and never gave us one break. Then again of course when 8th grade graduation came it was all love and how much they loved us.
Bull
Blu-tac
08-08-2005, 22:24
What babys? We're talking about a fetus NOT a baby. As for the death penalty what of those who turn out to have been convicted by mistake? Anyway . . .[/THREADJACK]

Whats the difference, its immoral either way!, and its better to convict an innocent man to let a guilty man walk free and kill many other people. Of course there will be miscarriages of justice, there always will be, however the person would be behind bars for all of their life anyway, so it wouldn't really make much difference. I must say I'm not the worlds biggest supporter of capital punishment, however I agree that in some severe cases it must be used.
Eris Illuminated
09-08-2005, 00:23
Whats the difference, its immoral either way!, and its better to convict an innocent man to let a guilty man walk free and kill many other people. Of course there will be miscarriages of justice, there always will be, however the person would be behind bars for all of their life anyway, so it wouldn't really make much difference. I must say I'm not the worlds biggest supporter of capital punishment, however I agree that in some severe cases it must be used.

A: This is off topic and the last time I respond to a post on this topic in this thread.

B: You've already shown your "pro-life" stance to be nothing of the sort to late to argue about it now.
The Edd
09-08-2005, 00:48
The teachers hated us and never gave us one break. Then again of course when 8th grade graduation came it was all love and how much they loved us.
BullCongratulations. I went through English Comprehensives (that long word means "normal") and Sixth Form, which I finished this past June. I found that you get a lot more from them once you start going to school because you want to, rather then because it's compulsory. I got a helluva lot more done in these past two years then in the previous 11, because I was going after subjects I wanted to take, and the teachers were better because they had classes of people there to learn. Most of the time.

We're also one of the top Non-Public (Private) Schools in the country as well, which means that we attract better teachers, so we get better grades, and it spirals up in a nice version of a vicious circle. Hopefully.
Rambozo
09-08-2005, 00:51
Public schools have WAY less bias in the education.
Seosavists
09-08-2005, 00:57
Wait . . . my telepathic abilitys are telling me . . . you have no problem with the death penalty.
:eek:
Origami Tigers
09-08-2005, 01:05
I went to Catholic School for twelve years and, aside from being flooded with "Our faith is right and everybody else's is wrong", it was a good experience. Where I lived, the student-to-teacher ratio was much better at private schools than public and I definately felt safer. I can't say if I learned more or less because of it -I was a stubborn student.
Jenrak
09-08-2005, 01:18
Three people (not including me) agree I'm l337.
Seosavists
09-08-2005, 01:20
Three people (not including me) agree I'm l337.
yeah but they are also "and idiot"s.
The Dominickan Islands
09-08-2005, 01:23
I think catholic schools are much better than public schools
The Dominickan Islands
09-08-2005, 01:26
What babys? We're talking about a fetus NOT a baby. As for the death penalty what of those who turn out to have been convicted by mistake? Anyway . . .[/THREADJACK]


I fetus is still a living thing. That fetus could grow up and find a cure for cancer or go to mars. Abortion cuts off that baby's chance to live a life.
Eris Illuminated
09-08-2005, 01:27
I think catholic schools are much better than public schools

And now the burden is on you to provide evidence.
Origami Tigers
09-08-2005, 01:27
I fetus is still a living thing. That fetus could grow up and find a cure for cancer or go to mars. Abortion cuts off that baby's chance to live a life.

Or it could grow up to be a psychopathic mass murderer. Who knows?
Seosavists
09-08-2005, 01:28
And now the burden is on you to provide evidence.
no it isn't it is his opinion.
Eris Illuminated
09-08-2005, 01:34
no it isn't it is his opinion.

You make an argument then you provide evidence that backs you up, otherwise there's no debate.
The Dominickan Islands
09-08-2005, 01:35
Or it could grow up to be a psychopathic mass murderer. Who knows?

If you have an abortion you never will know what the baby will be
UpwardThrust
09-08-2005, 03:33
I fetus is still a living thing. That fetus could grow up and find a cure for cancer or go to mars. Abortion cuts off that baby's chance to live a life.
Arguement is bunk he could also grow up to be the next stallin
LazyHippies
09-08-2005, 03:51
It depends on where you live. Some districts have excellent public schools that I would feel comfortable sending my kids to. Other districts have terrible public schools that Id never dream of sending my kids to.
Kaledan
09-08-2005, 04:01
Bad things seem to happen to cute little boys at catholic school....
Jenrak
09-08-2005, 04:04
Like Cedarbrae.
UpwardThrust
09-08-2005, 04:05
Bad things seem to happen to cute little boys at catholic school....
I can attest to that ... almost 3 years being forced into an alter boy position to fill in for other students and being molested

Want to know what is even more sick? they made the priest (that they knew to be a pedophile) not only be in a position as the head of a large parish and catholic elementary school ...

They let him teach my 4th grade sex ed class (guess what year my molestation started)
Jenrak
09-08-2005, 22:40
4th grade?
UpwardThrust
10-08-2005, 02:46
4th grade?
Yup for not wanting to they had a fairly thourough class ... maybe it was just him wanting to talk about it with a bunch of 4th graders though
Ex-Ops
10-08-2005, 02:57
ive gone to public and private catholic schools, in my opinion public schools are better(im not even catholic)

:headbang: :mp5: :sniper: :gundge:
Skyrm
10-08-2005, 08:37
I prefer catholic schools. Not for the religion but for the ethic education.