NationStates Jolt Archive


Election Time!

Laerod
08-08-2005, 12:53
German elections are coming up on the 18th of September (or maybe not, if the Constitutional Court rules in favor of those sueing against it). I'm interested to see how the German Bundestag (our parliament) would look like if NSers did the voting.
Before voting, it is important to note that only the bigger parties have been listed. If you want to vote for another party, please explain your vote in a post, other parties are listed below. You can also purposefully invalidate your ballot. This influences the percentages that each party gets without voting for a specific party. It doesn't happen often, but it can prevent a small party from being represented. A party must achieve at least 5% of the vote in order to be represented in the Bundestag!
Polls close on the 10th of August at 14:00 CET or 12:00 GMT.
Deutsche Welle information on the elections (http://www.dw-world.de/dw/0,1595,6591,00.html) (available in all sorts of languages)
Ballots are cast in secret. If you don't want to vote, don't vote. That way, the results won't be influenced.
Responsible voters would at least read about the major parties before making their choice!

PARTIES (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_parties_in_Germany): (each party's name is a link to the Wikipedia entry. The "Parties" is a link to all German Parties in Wikipedia)

Sozialdemokratische Partei Deutschlands (SPD) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democratic_Party_of_Germany) – Social Democratic Party of Germany
Christlich Demokratische Union (CDU) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian-Democratic_Union_of_Germany) / Christlich Soziale Union (CSU) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Social_Union_in_Bavaria) – Christian Democratic Union and Christian Socialist Union
Bündnis 90 / Die Grünen (Grüne) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Green_Party) – Alliance 90 and Green Party
Freie Demokratische Partei (FDP) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Democratic_Party_of_Germany) – Free Democratic Party
Linkspartei (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Party_of_the_Left._PDS) – Left Party

Others: (these parties achieved between 1 and 5% of the votes during the last election)
Die Tierschutzpartei (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_Welfare_Party_of_Germany) – Animal Welfare Party
Ökologisch-Demokratische Partei (ödp) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecological_Democratic_Party) – Ecological Democratic Party
Familienpartei (Familie) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_Party_of_Germany) – Family Party
Feministische Partei (Frauen) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminist_Party_of_Germany) – Feminist Party
Die Grauen Panther (Graue) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grey_Panthers_Party_of_Germany) – Grey Panthers
Partei Rechtsstaatlicher Offensive (Offensive D) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_and_Order_Offensive_Party) – Law and Order Offensive Party
Nationaldemokratische Partei Deutschlands (NPD) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Democratic_Party_of_Germany_%28NPD%29) – National Democratic Party of Germany (WARNING: Neo-Nazi Scum)
Partei Bibeltreuer Christen (PBC) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_of_bible-abiding_christians) – Party of bible-abiding Christians
Republikaner (REP) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Republicans_%28Germany%29) - Republicans (WARNING: Neo-Nazi Scum)

There's more parties, but I didn't want to add too many, especially since they don't play any role in national politics.
Monkeypimp
08-08-2005, 12:56
The New Zealand election is next month too.
Laerod
08-08-2005, 13:01
The New Zealand election is next month too.So is the Japanese. But I'm not New Zealandish or Japanese. :D

What was that, Fass? :confused:
Kanabia
08-08-2005, 13:03
Haha, the "Grey Panthers" are a senior citizens party, that's funny. :D

I also like the title of the Law and Order Offensive party. Are they taking an offensive against law and order? Are they making an offensive to bring law and order to the country? Or are they just plain offensive?
Fass
08-08-2005, 13:04
What was that, Fass? :confused:

I was bitching about the poll taking forever, but then it showed up.

Curse you! :fluffle:
Fass
08-08-2005, 13:06
I also like the title of the Law and Order Offensive party. Are they taking an offensive against law and order? Are they making an offensive to bring law and order to the country? Or are they just plain offensive?

Their German name is not as ambiguous.
Laerod
08-08-2005, 13:06
Haha, the "Grey Panthers" are a senior citizens party, that's funny. :D

I also like the title of the Law and Order Offensive party. Are they taking an offensive against law and order? Are they making an offensive to bring law and order to the country? Or are they just plain offensive?The Law and Order Party was founded in Hamburg. They're basically offensive. The guy that founded them was known as Ronald "Judge Merciless" Schill, which should tell about how nice they were. Right-populists...
Laerod
08-08-2005, 13:07
I was bitching about the poll taking forever, but then it showed up.

Curse you! :fluffle:Teehee. I waited so long to get the timing right... but somehow, NS is one minute behind my computer's time...:(
Kanabia
08-08-2005, 13:18
The Law and Order Party was founded in Hamburg. They're basically offensive. The guy that founded them was known as Ronald "Judge Merciless" Schill, which should tell about how nice they were. Right-populists...

Heh, I see.

Overall though, your parties are pretty good. You have three major left parties...we have two major right parties (one is centre-right), and only one left party that gets any votes (the green party, but they're relatively minor...). :(
Laerod
08-08-2005, 13:19
At this point I'd like to add that you actually have two votes in a German election. The second vote goes to a direct candidate from your area, though, and since most NSers don't live in Germany, we're just going to do the main election.
Likewise, the CSU can only be voted for in Bavaria, while the CDU can only be voted for in the rest of Germany.
The smaller parties don't play a role in national politics, but sometimes they make it into regional parliaments. It is rather shameful when the Neo-Nazis manage, or when the Offensive D party made it in Hamburg.
Laerod
08-08-2005, 13:19
Heh, I see.

Overall though, your parties are pretty good. You have three major left parties...we have two major right parties (one is centre-right), and only one left party that gets any votes (the green party). :(I'm half American. I can feel your pain quite well...

I'd like to add that the Linkspartei isn't all that credible. They formed out of the former ruling party of East Germany (SED) and the Voting Alternative Social Justice (WASG) this year. What they've proposed is rather nice, but there isn't really any way to pay for it.
Kanabia
08-08-2005, 13:21
I'm half American. I can feel your pain quite well...

*gets on the next plane to Germany*

:p
Laerod
08-08-2005, 13:35
I'm surprised there's only been leftist votes so far... No one bothered voting for the Others yet...
77Seven77
08-08-2005, 13:51
What happened to the Nazi's?
Laerod
08-08-2005, 13:53
What happened to the Nazi's?They're unconstitutional. That means the only way you can vote nazi is by voting for one of the Neo-Nazi parties that claim they don't have anything to do with Nazis so they don't become illegal. The NPD is the closest to the original NSDAP.
Nowoland
08-08-2005, 13:54
Overall though, your parties are pretty good. You have three major left parties...we have two major right parties (one is centre-right), and only one left party that gets any votes (the green party, but they're relatively minor...). :(
Overall though, our parties are pretty bad!!
We just have a greater choice of undesirable options :D

The new (loony) left party is actually a pretty interesting factor in this election. It is thought by most political commentators that they'll manage to scrape together up to 10% of the votes. If they manage that, it is very unlikely to be enough for a CDU/CSU & FDP coalition, even less likely for a SPD/Green coalition (present government). The following constallations are then thinkable:
CDU/CSU with SPD, Chancellor Merkel (likely)
CDU/CSU with FDP & Green, Merkel (very unlikely but not impossible)
SPD with Green and Left Party, Chancellor Schröder (frightening)
Laerod
08-08-2005, 13:57
Overall though, our parties are pretty bad!!
We just have a greater choice of undesirable options :D

The new (loony) left party is actually a pretty interesting factor in this election. It is thought by most political commentators that they'll manage to scrape together up to 10% of the votes. If they manage that, it is very unlikely to be enough for a CDU/CSU & FDP coalition, even less likely for a SPD/Green coalition (present government). The following constallations are then thinkable:
CDU/CSU with SPD, Chancellor Merkel (likely)
CDU/CSU with FDP & Green, Merkel (very unlikely but not impossible)
SPD with Green and Left Party, Chancellor Schröder (frightening)Luckily, Schröder is against that, and the Greens would certainly be unwilling to cooperate.
Jjimjja
08-08-2005, 14:00
voted for Merkel. But she'll need to force through some brutal changes, changes that schroder tried to make but were watered down far too much by his allies.

And i can see her really not getting on with Chirac :D
Laerod
08-08-2005, 14:06
voted for Merkel. But she'll need to force through some brutal changes, changes that schroder tried to make but were watered down far too much by his allies.

And i can see her really not getting on with Chirac :DI can see her getting along real well with someone (http://www.ksta.de/html/bildpopup/1107874539117.shtml) else (http://www.eulenspiegel-zeitschrift.de/Eulenspiegel/Hintergrundbilder/Prakt1024/prakt1024.html) though... :D
Tluiko
08-08-2005, 14:10
At this point I'd like to add that you actually have two votes in a German election. The second vote goes to a direct candidate from your area, though, and since most NSers don't live in Germany, we're just going to do the main election.
In fact this is the first vote! The second one is for the party itself.
Laerod
08-08-2005, 14:13
In fact this is the first vote! The second one is for the party itself.You might be right. My assumption is based on the Musterstimmzettel on the Wahlleiter homepage. There were more options on the right-hand column than on the left.
Tluiko
08-08-2005, 14:13
Overall though, our parties are pretty bad!!
We just have a greater choice of undesirable options :D

The new (loony) left party is actually a pretty interesting factor in this election. It is thought by most political commentators that they'll manage to scrape together up to 10% of the votes. If they manage that, it is very unlikely to be enough for a CDU/CSU & FDP coalition, even less likely for a SPD/Green coalition (present government). The following constallations are then thinkable:
CDU/CSU with SPD, Chancellor Merkel (likely)
CDU/CSU with FDP & Green, Merkel (very unlikely but not impossible)
SPD with Green and Left Party, Chancellor Schröder (frightening)

Or maybe CDU + SPD with Schröder?
Or maybe SPD + Green + FDP (very unlikely)
Or maybe CDU + Green (not impossible, if this is the only possible 2-party coalition)
Nowoland
08-08-2005, 14:15
Luckily, Schröder is against that, and the Greens would certainly be unwilling to cooperate.
To be honest, I trust the Greens on that one more than Schroeder :rolleyes:

It's still a slight and frightening possibility. Still, I guess I'll vote green.
Laerod
08-08-2005, 14:16
Or maybe CDU + SPD with Schröder?
Or maybe SPD + Green + FDP (very unlikely)
Or maybe CDU + Green (not impossible, if this is the only possible 2-party coalition)Nah. You know what happened after the Grand Coalition in Schleswig-Holstein, don't you? There's no way the Union is going to accept Schröder as Chancellor after all their rhetoric.
(The Greens are the strongest Faction! I can't believe it! :D )
Laerod
08-08-2005, 14:18
To be honest, I trust the Greens on that one more than Schroeder :rolleyes:

It's still a slight and frightening possibility. Still, I guess I'll vote green.I'm gonna vote green too. The SPD's neo-socialist rhetoric has been raising goosebumps on my skin.
I wonder if Neo R voted yet? You'd think the PBC would be her kind of party :p
Nowoland
08-08-2005, 14:36
Here are the results for the German parliamentary elections 1949 - 2002

_____CDU/CSU__SPD____F.D.P.___Grünen__PDS___Others
2002__38,5_____38,5___7,4______8,6_____4,0***_3,0
1998__35,2_____40,9___6,2______6,7_____5,1____5,9
1994__41,5_____36,4___6,9______7,3_____4,4____3,5
1990__43,8_____33,5___11,0_____5*______2,4 ** 4,3
1987__44,3_____37,0___9,1______8,3___________1,3
1983__48,8_____38,2___7,0______5,6___________0,4
1980__44,5_____42,9___10,6_____1,5**_________0,5
1976__48,6_____42,6___7,9____________________0,9
1972__44,9_____45,8___8,4____________________0,9
1969__46,1_____42,7___5,8____________________5,5
1965__47,6_____39,3___9,5____________________3,6
1961__45,3_____36,2___12,8___________________5,7
1957__50,2_____31,8___7,7____________________10,5
1953__45,2_____28,8___9,5____________________16,5
1949__31,0_____29,2___11,9____________________27,9

Notes:
* The Green Party (West) got 3.8%, the Bündniss90/Grüne (East) 1,2%, Although they were de facto already one party their results are reported individually.
** not represented in parliament
*** not in parliament as a party, but with 2 direct mandates
Tluiko
08-08-2005, 14:36
You might be right. My assumption is based on the Musterstimmzettel on the Wahlleiter homepage. There were more options on the right-hand column than on the left.

That would be correct:
The "Erststimme" (first vote) is on the left side of the ballot paper. But the first vote is for the parties' candidates of the electoral district, but not all parties have a candidate in each district. So there a more parties wanting to have our second votes than there are candidates in one specific district.
Nowoland
08-08-2005, 14:39
I'm gonna vote green too. The SPD's neo-socialist rhetoric has been raising goosebumps on my skin.
I wonder if Neo R voted yet? You'd think the PBC would be her kind of party :p
"The Party of Christians Faithful to the Bible" - Yes, I think Neo R would like taht one. Are they still around? They had great election spots (like al small parties without a budget) :D
Laerod
08-08-2005, 14:39
Hey! We have an "other" party in the Bundestag! Would the person that voted care to say which one?
Laerod
08-08-2005, 14:41
"The Party of Christians Faithful to the Bible" - Yes, I think Neo R would like taht one. Are they still around? They had great election spots (like al small parties without a budget) :DI saw them last election. They were campaigning against masturbation and the "Christian" in CDU. :D
There's also a Christliche Mitte (Christian Center): For a Germany under God's commandments!
Tluiko
08-08-2005, 14:41
Here are the results for the German parliamentary elections 1949 - 2002

_____CDU/CSU__SPD____F.D.P.___Grünen__PDS___Others
2002__38,5_____38,5___7,4______8,6_____4,0____3,0
1998__35,2_____40,9___6,2______6,7_____5,1____5,9
1994__41,5_____36,4___6,9______7,3_____4,4*** 3,5
1990__43,8_____33,5___11,0_____5*______2,4 ** 4,3
1987__44,3_____37,0___9,1______8,3___________1,3
1983__48,8_____38,2___7,0______5,6___________0,4
1980__44,5_____42,9___10,6_____1,5**_________0,5
1976__48,6_____42,6___7,9____________________0,9
1972__44,9_____45,8___8,4____________________0,9
1969__46,1_____42,7___5,8____________________5,5
1965__47,6_____39,3___9,5____________________3,6
1961__45,3_____36,2___12,8___________________5,7
1957__50,2_____31,8___7,7____________________10,5
1953__45,2_____28,8___9,5____________________16,5
1949__31,0_____29,2___11,9____________________27,9

Notes:
* The Green Party (West) got 3.8%, the Bündniss90/Grüne (East) 1,2%, Although they were de facto already one party their results are reported individually.
** not represented in parliament
*** not in parliament as a party, but with 4 direct mandates

not in parliament as a party, only 2 direct candidates
If you have 4 direct mandates (even with 3) you will be in parliament as a party.
Nowoland
08-08-2005, 14:54
not in parliament as a party, only 2 direct candidates
If you have 4 direct mandates (even with 3) you will be in parliament as a party.
You are right, of course - I'll correct it at once.
Tluiko
08-08-2005, 14:56
I saw them last election. They were campaigning against masturbation and the "Christian" in CDU. :D

Did they? Any material about that?
Laerod
08-08-2005, 15:00
Did they? Any material about that?It was in an interview I saw. But they're bound to have a website. Let me look...

Ah, yes here (http://www.pbc.de/themen/Themen.htm) it is...
Werteswandel
08-08-2005, 15:12
Hmm. I'm torn between reluctantly voting Green or spoiling the ballot. So, pretty much the decision I had to make in the UK election in May. It's possible that I'd vote tactically on a local level (against Stoiber in Bavaria, for instance).

And did someone describe the SDP as 'neo-socialist'? Aren't they very similar to Blairite Labour?
Laerod
08-08-2005, 15:16
Hmm. I'm torn between reluctantly voting Green or spoiling the ballot. So, pretty much the decision I had to make in the UK election in May. It's possible that I'd vote tactically on a local level (against Stoiber in Bavaria, for instance).

And did someone describe the SDP as 'neo-socialist'? Aren't they very similar to Blairite Labour?The rhetoric the SPD has been bringing out sounds rather neo-socialist (things like "evil capitalism" and so). The vote is only for parties on a national level since a lot of real voting is only possible with German residency. You could vote for the Bayern Partei if you wanted to, the choice being "other"...
Werteswandel
08-08-2005, 15:20
Ah, thanks. Bayern Partei look more than a little iffy to me. I could be persuaded to vote for the feminists if I could find more info on them... don't bother hunting around! I'll probably just spoil the ballot. I like protest votes.
Laerod
08-08-2005, 15:22
Bayern Partei look more than a little iffy to me. I could be persuaded to vote for the feminists if I could find more info on them...I lived in Munich during the local elections... The Bayern Partei wants to split Bavaria off of Germany and form it's own entity in the EU.

I'm still interested in which "other" party got a vote...
And I'm shocked that the Leftist Demagogues got so much :eek:
Werteswandel
08-08-2005, 15:26
I lived in Munich during the local elections... The Bayern Partei wants to split Bavaria off of Germany and form it's own entity in the EU.

I'm still interested in which "other" party got a vote...
And I'm shocked that the Leftist Demagogues got so much :eek:
It's the internet - we don't have centrists!
Laerod
08-08-2005, 15:30
It's the internet - we don't have centrists!
But the leftists could vote green! (or vote other and go for the KPD :p)
Tluiko
08-08-2005, 15:38
It's the internet - we don't have centrists!
Me?
Nowoland
08-08-2005, 15:39
I lived in Munich during the local elections... The Bayern Partei wants to split Bavaria off of Germany and form it's own entity in the EU.

Sounds perfectly reasonable to me ;) If we didn't have to support the rest of Germany we would be a European version of a tiger state!

And I'm shocked that the Leftist Demagogues got so much :eek:
It's an internet poll without consequences, so some are probably just having fun. If not, they have either not read the party's programme, or listened to Gysi or Lafontaine or don't know how little money the German government has nowadays to pay for all their ideas.
Laerod
08-08-2005, 15:42
We have 2 votes for other now! What parties got the vote?
Laerod
08-08-2005, 15:54
It's a pity the Greens are losing to the FDP... :(
Tluiko
08-08-2005, 15:54
It was in an interview I saw. But they're bound to have a website. Let me look...

Ah, yes here (http://www.pbc.de/themen/Themen.htm) it is...
Nothing about masturbation, nothing about CDU.
Tluiko
08-08-2005, 15:55
It's a pity the Greens are losing to the FDP... :(
To Americans this is the only non-socialist party I guess...
Laerod
08-08-2005, 15:58
To Americans this is the only non-socialist party I guess...I suppose... I wonder if they would be voting for it if they knew that these are the "liberals"... :p
Nowoland
08-08-2005, 16:05
I suppose... I wonder if they would be voting for it if they knew that these are the "liberals"... :p
May I point out that the FDP is not really a "liberal" party, even if they call themselves that. If they were, I could vote for them!

Give me the British LibDems any day instead of the FDP!

I'm also slightly worried that we have a clear majority for the loony left :headbang:
Laerod
08-08-2005, 16:06
May I point out that the FDP is not really a "liberal" party, even if they call themselves that. If they were, I could vote for them!

Give me the British LibDems any day instead of the FDP!

I'm also slightly worried that we have a clear majority for the loony left :headbang:Sad thing is, they are about as liberal as the democrats...
Werteswandel
08-08-2005, 16:11
OK, I've gone for the Greens on the basis that there's less reason (for me, anyway) to spoil the ballot in an electoral system based on proportional representation.
Laerod
08-08-2005, 16:15
OK, I've gone for the Greens on the basis that there's less reason (for me, anyway) to spoil the ballot in an electoral system based on proportional representation.Yes! Go Greens!
Jjimjja
08-08-2005, 16:19
I can see her getting along real well with someone (http://www.ksta.de/html/bildpopup/1107874539117.shtml) else (http://www.eulenspiegel-zeitschrift.de/Eulenspiegel/Hintergrundbilder/Prakt1024/prakt1024.html) though... :D

so that's how politiks work! :p
Laerod
08-08-2005, 16:20
so that's how politiks work! :pI'm glad someone finally noticed those :D
Blu-tac
08-08-2005, 16:23
Well, I'm British, but I would vote for the Christian Bible people, or anyone conservative, so there!
Kanabia
08-08-2005, 16:28
And I'm shocked that the Leftist Demagogues got so much :eek:

Yeah, after reading that they were the continuation of the old East German communist party, I was no longer interested.
Nowoland
08-08-2005, 16:38
Well, I'm British, but I would vote for the Christian Bible people, or anyone conservative, so there!
You can vote for anyone you like. That's the nice thing about democracy ;)

If you vote for the bible guys, however, you might as well invalidate your vote because they have absolutely no chance of getting into parliament. Well not until hell freezes over, anyway :D
Laerod
08-08-2005, 16:41
You can vote for anyone you like. That's the nice thing about democracy ;)

If you vote for the bible guys, however, you might as well invalidate your vote because they have absolutely no chance of getting into parliament. Well not until hell freezes over, anyway :DWell, were trying to see what Parliament would look like if NationStates was the eligible population...
Nowoland
08-08-2005, 16:44
Well, were trying to see what Parliament would look like if NationStates was the eligible population...
:eek: Angst!

Can you imagine the parliament: Bible thumping fundamentalists on the one side, bible bashing atheists on the other and me and you in ze middle of ze riot! ;)
Laerod
08-08-2005, 16:46
:eek: Angst!

Can you imagine the parliament: Bible thumping fundamentalists on the one side, bible bashing atheists on the other and me and you in ze middle of ze riot! ;)So far, there aren't that many Bible thumpers... And I mean, this IS NationStates voting on the Parliament. I didn't know what to expect, but the hard left leading wasn't something I considered possible... :D
Nowoland
08-08-2005, 17:00
Perhaps this is the reason for all the votes:

The Linkspartei (loony lefties) want to make all drugs legal (source: http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/0,1518,368861,00.html)

Well, they've got my vote then ;) !
Laerod
08-08-2005, 17:16
Perhaps this is the reason for all the votes:

The Linkspartei (loony lefties) want to make all drugs legal (source: http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/0,1518,368861,00.html)

Well, they've got my vote then ;) !Nah, I don't want some of the hard stuff to be legal. Legalizing pot is extreme enough for me, I'll stick with Green. :D
"LASST DAS HANF FREI!"
Nowoland
08-08-2005, 17:18
Nah, I don't want some of the hard stuff to be legal. Legalizing pot is extreme enough for me, I'll stick with Green. :D
"LASST DAS HANF FREI!"
I actually want to decriminalize all drugs - which is not the same as making the stuff generally available- But that is another discussion and I need to get my train home!
Laerod
08-08-2005, 17:19
I actually want to decriminalize all drugs - which is not the same as making the stuff generally available- But that is another discussion and I need to get my train home!Have fun. I'll try to keep this thing alive until the polls close :D See you later, I hope.
Laerod
08-08-2005, 22:54
Right, let's see if any of the crowd that are around now care to share what they'd vote in the German elections if they could...
Mennon
08-08-2005, 23:01
Anything but the CDU, as Merkel will destroy Germany. I think I'll vote for either SDP or Grune, edging towards Grune, as I don't like Schreoder (sp?).
Laerod
08-08-2005, 23:04
Anything but the CDU, as Merkel will destroy Germany. I think I'll vote for either SDP or Grune, edging towards Grune, as I don't like Schreoder (sp?).As to the spelling of umlauts (ä, ö, and ü): Type the letter without the dots and then an "e", in the case of Schröder, the English spelling would be Schroeder. ;)
Mennon
08-08-2005, 23:07
As to the spelling of umlauts (ä, ö, and ü): Type the letter without the dots and then an "e", in the case of Schröder, the English spelling would be Schroeder. ;)

Cool thanks, i'll need that for next year lol
German Nightmare
08-08-2005, 23:09
Votesplitting for the current German government. Probably. Red Green :cool::p

Can't and won't vote for the other crazies!
Laerod
08-08-2005, 23:12
Votesplitting for the current German government. Probably. Red Green :cool::p

Can't and won't vote for the other crazies!Heheh. Yeah, I'm quite shocked there aren't more votes for some of the smaller parties... You'd think that the PBC or the Republikaner might appeal to some folks... :p
German Nightmare
08-08-2005, 23:17
OMG! Don't get me started with the PBC!!! Those people are loonies!!!!! :eek:

Their election posters alone give me the creeps (and people voting for them even more so...)

Anyway - after the election is through and Merkel is ruining, uh, running the country I can always say: Don't frigging blame me, I didn't do it :D
Mennon
08-08-2005, 23:22
Heheh. Yeah, I'm quite shocked there aren't more votes for some of the smaller parties... You'd think that the PBC or the Republikaner might appeal to some folks... :p

Well... if you had an Official Monster Raving Looney Party, it would pick up quite a few votes...lol
Laerod
08-08-2005, 23:23
OMG! Don't get me started with the PBC!!! Those people are loonies!!!!! :eek:

Their election posters alone give me the creeps (and people voting for them even more so...)

Anyway - after the election is through and Merkel is ruining, uh, running the country I can always say: Don't frigging blame me, I didn't do it :D
Have you seen my pictures of what Merkel would do if she won? :D
Mennon
08-08-2005, 23:26
Have you seen my pictures of what Merkel would do if she won? :D
A picture of Britain ? lol (Merkel is Thatcher in disguse)
Laerod
08-08-2005, 23:30
A picture of Britain ? lol (Merkel is Thatcher in disguse)
Nah, worse... These:
I can see her getting along real well with someone (http://www.ksta.de/html/bildpopup/1107874539117.shtml) else (http://www.eulenspiegel-zeitschrift.de/Eulenspiegel/Hintergrundbilder/Prakt1024/prakt1024.html) though... :DThe second one in particular.
Mennon
08-08-2005, 23:35
Nah, worse... These:
The second one in particular.

Brilliant lol. I agree the second one is better.
Laerod
08-08-2005, 23:39
Brilliant lol. I agree the second one is better.The first one was a carnival wagon. The second was artwork in a satire magazine that got repeated several times because it was so popular... :D
Mennon
08-08-2005, 23:42
The first one was a carnival wagon. The second was artwork in a satire magazine that got repeated several times because it was so popular... :D

The SDP should use it in it's Election Campaign. Im sure it would swing alot of votes in there direction.
Laerod
08-08-2005, 23:42
w00t! The Greens caught up with the loony left! :D
I can respect you guys again :fluffle:
Laerod
08-08-2005, 23:44
The SDP should use it in it's Election Campaign. Im sure it would swing alot of votes in there direction.Nah. No need for them to sink to that level. That would be considered bad taste and would probably drive voters away... Only the CDU does stuff like that. (And its SPD not SDP ;) )
Mennon
08-08-2005, 23:47
Nah. No need for them to sink to that level. That would be considered bad taste and would probably drive voters away... Only the CDU does stuff like that. (And its SPD not SDP ;) )

SPD stupid word order lol :)
Laerod
08-08-2005, 23:56
Only 51 voters! Dang... votes really count a lot so far :D
Mennon
09-08-2005, 00:03
Only 51 voters! Dang... votes really count a lot so far :D

Go Greens Go!
Laerod
09-08-2005, 11:32
Right. Less than 24 hours to go. Submit your votes to the German Bundestag! Will Red-Green catch up with the Loony Left and will Black-Yellow get as many votes as ballots have been invalidated? :D
New Burmesia
09-08-2005, 11:56
Ich bin deutsch nicht (Okay, I never paid attention in German class either) but i'd vote für das Linksparti. They were once the Party of Democratic Socialism, yes?

I should really stop taking interest in other countries general elections. It frightens even myself...
Laerod
09-08-2005, 12:05
Ich bin deutsch nicht (Okay, I never paid attention in German class either) but i'd vote für das Linksparti. They were once the Party of Democratic Socialism, yes?
Yeah. Die Linkspartei is a union of the PDS and the WASG (Voting Alternative Social Justice). Before that, the WASG didn't exist, and the PDS was the SED and ruled East Germany and had people shot for trying to get past the Wall.
Laerod
09-08-2005, 13:36
Well, as things stand, all the major parties have made it into the Bundestag.
The PBC didn't since it only officially received one vote. The three other "other" votes are "invalid", since they weren't specified. Since the PBC only gets 1.82% of the vote in that case, it misses the 5% mark.
Laerod
09-08-2005, 13:44
Seat Distribution:
http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/6228/seats1if.jpg

Vote Distribution:
http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/9435/votes9ix.jpg