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Evil or Misunderstood?

Lunatic Goofballs
08-08-2005, 12:09
Do you think the following people are evil or misunderstood? No other choices are acceptable. You MUST choose between 'Evil' or 'Misunderstood'. Add explanations if you'd like.

A: Henry Kissinger
B: Dick Cheney
C: Osama Bin Laden
D: Lunatic Goofballs
E: Myrth
F: Paris Hilton
G: Satan
H: Santa
I: Matt Damon
J: John Wilkes Booth
K: Galactus
L: Frankenstein's Monster.
M: The Borg.
N: Emperor Palpatine
O: Sally Strothers.
P: Cat Stevens
Q: Blackbeard The Pirate.
R: Karl Rove
S: John Wayne Gacy
T: The shark from 'Jaws'

:)
Friendly Mind Slugs
08-08-2005, 12:17
D...The right ansewer must be D!
Laerod
08-08-2005, 12:19
A: Henry Kissinger - Misunderstood
B: Dick Cheney - Both? I don't think enough people realise he's evil
C: Osama Bin Laden - Evile
D: Lunatic Goofballs - Misunderstood
E: Myrth - Misunderstood
F: Paris Hilton - Evil
G: Satan - Evil
H: Santa - Misunderstood. His name is Sinter Klaas, not Santa Claus
I: Matt Damon - Misunderstood
J: John Wilkes Booth - Evil
K: Galactus - Misunderstood (I don't know who that is, so I'll misunderstand and say the Galaxy isn't Evil)
L: Frankenstein's Monster. - Misunderstood^10
M: The Borg. - Evil
N: Emperor Palpatine - Same as Cheney
O: Sally Strothers. - Same as Galactus
P: Cat Stevens - Misunderstood
Q: Blackbeard The Pirate. - Misunderstood. He didn't want to kill people. He wanted them to give up. Same tactics as Genghis Khan, actually.
R: Karl Rove - Same as Cheney
S: John Wayne Gacy - Same as Galactus
T: The shark from 'Jaws' - Misunderstood. It's just an animal...
Cabra West
08-08-2005, 12:20
I don't believe there is such a thing as "evil", there's just egoism that's more or less extreme.
I would say that people who call those in the list "evil" misunderstand them, yes.
Monkeypimp
08-08-2005, 12:20
They're all guilty dammit.
Cabra West
08-08-2005, 12:21
They're all guilty dammit.

Of what?
BackwoodsSquatches
08-08-2005, 12:23
Yes.


Especially "d" .

But only becuase of the clown thing.
Monkeypimp
08-08-2005, 12:23
Of what?

What was the question?
Camewot
08-08-2005, 12:24
A: Henry Kissinger - Misunderstood
B: Dick Cheney - Evil
C: Osama Bin Laden - Evil
D: Lunatic Goofballs - Misunderstood
E: Myrth - Misunderstood
F: Paris Hilton - Misunderstood (wow, mama!)
G: Satan - Misunderstood
H: Santa - Evil
I: Matt Damon - Misunderstood
J: John Wilkes Booth - Misunderstood
K: Galactus - Misunderstood
L: Frankenstein's Monster. - Evil
M: The Borg. - Evil
N: Emperor Palpatine - Evil
O: Sally Strothers. - Misunderstood
P: Cat Stevens - Evil
Q: Blackbeard The Pirate. - Misunderstood
R: Karl Rove - Misunderstood
S: John Wayne Gacy - Evil
T: The shark from 'Jaws' - Misunderstood
Delator
08-08-2005, 12:27
A: Henry Kissinger
Misunderstood

B: Dick Cheney
Evil

C: Osama Bin Laden
Evil

D: Lunatic Goofballs
Misunderstood

E: Myrth
Evil

F: Paris Hilton
Neither evil, nor misunderstood...just stupid

G: Satan
Both evil and misunderstood

H: Santa
Neither evil nor misunderstood

I: Matt Damon
Evil

J: John Wilkes Booth
Evil

K: Galactus
Misunderstood

L: Frankenstein's Monster.
Misunderstood

M: The Borg.
Misunderstood

N: Emperor Palpatine
Evil

O: Sally Strothers.
Evil

P: Cat Stevens
Misunderstood

Q: Blackbeard The Pirate.
Misunderstood

R: Karl Rove
Evil

S: John Wayne Gacy
Evil

T: The shark from 'Jaws'
Misunderstood


You couldn't think of enough to get all the way to "Z"? :p
Lunatic Goofballs
08-08-2005, 12:27
Yes.


Especially "d" .

But only becuase of the clown thing.

http://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/teufel/devil-smiley-024.gif
MI Cap Troopers
08-08-2005, 12:29
What about Hitler?
Anonymous Self
08-08-2005, 12:29
heeheehee. If you wanted to hit this thread through the roof ask if Hitler was misunderstood. You get this huge swarm of Nazis. It turns into a huge fight.
Lunatic Goofballs
08-08-2005, 12:30
You couldn't think of enough to get all the way to "Z"? :p

Sure I could. But I figured 20 was enough. Besides, my experience with these threads is that people will add a few more. So I left some room. :)
Fass
08-08-2005, 12:32
I don't believe in evil, even though some heads of state are such good proselytisers for it.
MI Cap Troopers
08-08-2005, 12:38
I'm not a Nazi, but I think Hitler was misunderstood.
Laerod
08-08-2005, 12:40
I'm not a Nazi, but I think Hitler was misunderstood.Then you need to do a bit more learning, kiddo...
OHidunno
08-08-2005, 12:41
I don't think any of them are evil.

They do what they think is right. They don't know what they're doing is wrong, okay some know it's wrong, but they think they're doing the right thing at the same time.

Who's to say we're not doing the right thing anyways.

And who get's to decide what is right and what is wrong?
Fass
08-08-2005, 12:41
Then you need to do a bit more learning, kiddo...

Now, now, the industrial murder of millions of people is so easy to misunderstand. :rolleyes:
MI Cap Troopers
08-08-2005, 12:44
Now, now, the industrial murder of millions of people is so easy to misunderstand. :rolleyes:How many people have the US killed? Ther Third Reich has a relitively small body count compared to other nations.
Fass
08-08-2005, 12:46
How many people have the US killed? Ther Third Reich has a relitively small body count compared to other nations.

Yeah, you're "not a nazi" at all. :rolleyes:
Anonymous Self
08-08-2005, 12:49
Just because Stalin, The US and God have all killed more people than Hitlers Regime, that doesnt mean he didnt kill them.
MI Cap Troopers
08-08-2005, 12:51
I'm not a Nazi, and I didn't say they didn't kill them. I'm just saying everybody kills people so I don't see why one nation is heroic while another is evil.
Laerod
08-08-2005, 12:52
How many people have the US killed? Ther Third Reich has a relitively small body count compared to other nations.They've had a heck of a lot more time to do it too, and they didn't write a book about what they were going to do before doing it. And they didn't do it industrially.
Like I said, you have a lot of learning to do...
Cabra West
08-08-2005, 12:56
I'm not a Nazi, and I didn't say they didn't kill them. I'm just saying everybody kills people so I don't see why one nation is heroic while another is evil.

Because history is written by the winners... and the winners want to look good.

I'm not saying that Nazi Germany ever did anything good, nor am I saying that the USA resembles the Nazi dictatorship. Nowhere near it at all.
All I'm saying is that when you read history books, you will find some nations painted brighter than they actually are, and others darker. And I don't really like that very much...
MI Cap Troopers
08-08-2005, 12:57
Because history is written by the winners... and the winners want to look good.

I'm not saying that Nazi Germany ever did anything good, nor am I saying that the USA resembles the Nazi dictatorship. Nowhere near it at all.
All I'm saying is that when you read history books, you will find some nations painted brighter than they actually are, and others darker. And I don't really like that very much...Actually, that's something about what I meant...
Laerod
08-08-2005, 13:04
Actually, that's something about what I meant...Ah, but "Hitler was misunderstood" is a looooong way away from what Cabra said.
Kanabia
08-08-2005, 13:06
All are evil except Myrth. We all know he's a big softie at heart. Heheh.
Anonymous Self
08-08-2005, 13:21
No, this guy aint a nazi he just needs to read up on Hitler. We'll get some real Nazis soon. :(
Laerod
08-08-2005, 13:23
No, this guy aint a nazi he just needs to read up on Hitler. We'll get some real Nazis soon. :(Let's kill the subject then. LG deserves better than to have his thread degenerate like this. ;)
BackwoodsSquatches
08-08-2005, 13:30
http://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/teufel/devil-smiley-024.gif


I KNEW IT!!

EL DIABLO!!
Anonymous Self
08-08-2005, 13:58
Let's kill the subject then. LG deserves better than to have his thread degenerate like this. ;)

too true
MI Cap Troopers
08-08-2005, 14:36
I am so ashamed, stateing an incorrect opinion like that..I should be shot. :(
Lord-General Drache
08-08-2005, 14:42
Do you think the following people are evil or misunderstood? No other choices are acceptable. You MUST choose between 'Evil' or 'Misunderstood'. Add explanations if you'd like.

A: Henry Kissinger
B: Dick Cheney
C: Osama Bin Laden
D: Lunatic Goofballs
E: Myrth
F: Paris Hilton
G: Satan
H: Santa
I: Matt Damon
J: John Wilkes Booth
K: Galactus
L: Frankenstein's Monster.
M: The Borg.
N: Emperor Palpatine
O: Sally Strothers.
P: Cat Stevens
Q: Blackbeard The Pirate.
R: Karl Rove
S: John Wayne Gacy
T: The shark from 'Jaws'

:)
All evil, but misunderstood. They're like me. Bloody evil (Yes, even you), but also very nice, and just wanting to take over the world, in order to eventually better it. Except for Paris Hilton. She'd just get lost in a Prada store.

I'm disappointed you left off Baltar, Lord of the Cylons.
Laerod
08-08-2005, 14:46
I'm disappointed you left off Baltar, Lord of the Cylons.Ooh! Good choice...
Or Sharptooth from the Land before Time...
Lord-General Drache
08-08-2005, 14:49
Ooh! Good choice...
Or Sharptooth from the Land before Time...

Thank you. I rather thought it was, too. I mean, he set the standard for "Villians who have an endless army of robot warriors to serve him". Of course, the Cylons in the new series are equally misunderstood.
Laerod
08-08-2005, 14:51
Thank you. I rather thought it was, too. I mean, he set the standard for "Villians who have an endless army of robot warriors to serve him". Of course, the Cylons in the new series are equally misunderstood.There's a new series? That's interesting. But Baltar was seriously misunderstood. I mean he saved the Galactica (and his own life in the process) at least once after they captured him...
Monono
08-08-2005, 14:53
heeheehee. If you wanted to hit this thread through the roof ask if Hitler was misunderstood. You get this huge swarm of Nazis. It turns into a huge fight.

Correct, don't get these people started on Hitler and Nazis and evilness
Yupaenu
08-08-2005, 14:57
A: Henry Kissinger - evil
B: Dick Cheney - evil
C: Osama Bin Laden - misunderstood. still evil, but for different reasons.
D: Lunatic Goofballs - EVIL! GET HIM AWAY! NO! ARGH! GURGGLLE GURGGLLE GURGGLLE ...(transmition fades out)
E: Myrth - don't know them
F: Paris Hilton - evil
G: Satan - non-existant, so i'd suppose the people that believe that one exists(weather they believe it is good or bad) are evil.
H: Santa - evil
I: Matt Damon - is that the person on the redsocks? then misunderstood, cause my djadju loves the redsocks.
J: John Wilkes Booth - evil
K: Galactus - evil
L: Frankenstein's Monster. - misunderstood
M: The Borg. - misunderstood
N: Emperor Palpatine - evil
O: Sally Strothers. - evil
P: Cat Stevens - evil
Q: Blackbeard The Pirate. - misunderstood, but still evil for other reseaons.
R: Karl Rove - evil
S: John Wayne Gacy - evil
T: The shark from 'Jaws' - misunderstood
U: Yupaenu - misunderstood
Syawla
08-08-2005, 15:01
I don't believe in evil itself, merely people who act in a way that is immoral, or who hold evil beliefs. Hitler for example, is described as evil but in fact felt that his beliefs were in the best interests of people but particularly Germans. He had warped and evil views and committed or ordered the commission of evil acts yes, but that does not make someone fundamentally evil, even if we all concur that if evil exists, he is it.

I believe very few people are born 'evil' but people have evil characteristics and traits or, at least, use certain character traits in a way that is bad i.e. ambition.
Cashania
08-08-2005, 15:12
I don't believe in evil itself, merely people who act in a way that is immoral, or who hold evil beliefs. Hitler for example, is described as evil but in fact felt that his beliefs were in the best interests of people but particularly Germans. He had warped and evil views and committed or ordered the commission of evil acts yes, but that does not make someone fundamentally evil, even if we all concur that if evil exists, he is it.
Call me a cynic, but do you think Hitler might not have been completely honest with the German people? Just a thought like, you know, what with him writing an entire book about how to control masses of people by creating an "enemy" for them to hate.
Tarakaze
08-08-2005, 15:12
Evil is relative - only the cronically stubborn do things that they, personally, beleive to be evil.

I didn't answer the actual question because you have to say either 'evil' or 'misunderstood' and don't have the option of 'who the hell is that?'. :D
Kelsey-R
08-08-2005, 15:24
Ever think of this? Yeah, the Reich killed a lot of people. But what about the cows? How many cows did they kill for beef? How many cows did we kill? How many cows do we kill a day? But it's okay, they're only cows and we're the master race. We can eat whoever we like. Don't you get it!? We're all Nazis if we kill cows! WE'RE ALL NAZIS!!! ARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH!! :mad: :sniper:
Branin
08-08-2005, 15:32
A: Henry Kissinger-who
B: Dick Cheney-Evil
C: Osama Bin Laden-evil
D: Lunatic Goofballs-EVIL EVIL EVIL EVIL
E: Myrth-maybe both, but mostly evil
F: Paris Hilton-hot (as in Evil)
G: Satan-evil
H: Santa-EVIL, i mean wearing a red suit and breaking and entering, come on
I: Matt Damon-EVIL
J: John Wilkes Booth-evil
K: Galactus-bad bad
L: Frankenstein's Monster.-very evil
M: The Borg.-evil
N: Emperor Palpatine-not very nice
O: Sally Strothers.-evil
P: Cat Stevens-evil
Q: Blackbeard The Pirate.very evil
R: Karl Rove-evil
S: John Wayne Gacy-evil
T: The shark from 'Jaws'-evil

That's right, you are all evil. The world is evil, everything is of satan.

Okay not really, I might actually think about it later. But my answers for D and E are actually valid... ;) :D
Laerod
08-08-2005, 15:32
Ever think of this? Yeah, the Reich killed a lot of people. But what about the cows? How many cows did they kill for beef? How many cows did we kill? How many cows do we kill a day? But it's okay, they're only cows and we're the master race. We can eat whoever we like. Don't you get it!? We're all Nazis if we kill cows! WE'RE ALL NAZIS!!! ARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH!! :mad: :sniper:Viscous evil plant murderer! How dare you consider animals above and beyond plants? How many plants do you need to murder to get the same amount of energy a steak would provide? Don't discriminate against plants! :mad:
Kelsey-R
08-08-2005, 15:46
Viscous evil plant murderer! How dare you consider animals above and beyond plants? How many plants do you need to murder to get the same amount of energy a steak would provide? Don't discriminate against plants! :mad:You see my point? We kill cows, and plants. And we occasionally kill Jews. It's nature's way of keeping a balance.
Laerod
08-08-2005, 16:01
<snip>That really deserved an arched eye-brow...
Swimmingpool
08-08-2005, 20:00
A: Henry Kissinger - Misunderstood
B: Dick Cheney - Evil
C: Osama Bin Laden - Evil
D: Lunatic Goofballs - Misunderstood
E: Myrth - Very Misunderstood
F: Paris Hilton - Evil
G: Satan - Evil
H: Santa - Misunderstood
I: Matt Damon - Misunderstood
J: John Wilkes Booth - Evil
K: Galactus - ?
L: Frankenstein's Monster. - Misunderstood
M: The Borg. - Evil
N: Emperor Palpatine - ?
O: Sally Strothers. -?
P: Cat Stevens - Misunderstood
Q: Blackbeard The Pirate - Misunderstood
R: Karl Rove - Evil!
S: John Wayne Gacy- Evil
T: The shark from 'Jaws' - Misunderstood
Angry Fruit Salad
08-08-2005, 20:04
A: Henry Kissinger Misunderstood
B: Dick Cheney Evil
C: Osama Bin Laden Evil
D: Lunatic Goofballs Misunderstood
E: Myrth Misunderstood
F: Paris Hilton Evil Evil Evil!!
G: Satan Misunderstood
H: Santa Evil
I: Matt Damon Evil
J: John Wilkes Booth Misunderstood
K: Galactus Misunderstood
L: Frankenstein's Monster. Misunderstood
M: The Borg. Misunderstood
N: Emperor Palpatine Evil
O: Sally Strothers. Evil
P: Cat Stevens Evil
Q: Blackbeard The Pirate. Misunderstood
R: Karl Rove --- no comment, since I'm completely out of the loop on this news event
S: John Wayne Gacy Evil
T: The shark from 'Jaws' Evil -- anything that tacky and fake is PURE evil
[NS::::]Botswombata
08-08-2005, 20:22
Do you think the following people are evil or misunderstood? No other choices are acceptable. You MUST choose between 'Evil' or 'Misunderstood'. Add explanations if you'd like.

A: Henry Kissinger Misunderstood until proven evil
B: Dick Cheney evil
C: Osama Bin Laden evil
D: Lunatic Goofballs ??????
E: Myrth Misundrerstood
F: Paris Hilton misunderstood by her on mind(AKA to stupid to be evil)
G: Satan Misunderstood(he just wants to be loved like us humans)
H: Santa misunderstood grow up if you think he's evil Santa's in the heart man! Just like old Jack Burton says.
I: Matt Damon Evil
J: John Wilkes Booth evil
K: Galactus misunderstood
L: Frankenstein's Monster. Misunderstood
M: The Borg.Misunderstood
N: Emperor Palpatine evil
O: Sally Strothers. evil
P: Cat Stevens misunderstood
Q: Blackbeard The Pirate.
R: Karl Rove ??????
S: John Wayne Gacy evil especially in clown form. Shudder
T: The shark from 'Jaws' Misunderstood Duh hungry. Theres a fine line between evil & an empty stomach.

:)

you forgot to add Cthulu to your list.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
09-08-2005, 06:30
A: Henry Kissinger -- Misunderstood
B: Dick Cheney -- Misunderstood
C: Osama Bin Laden -- Evil
D: Lunatic Goofballs -- Evil, except on alternate Thursdays
E: Myrth -- Misunderstood
F: Paris Hilton -- A vile horribly Evil stick demon that seeks to steal our souls
G: Satan -- A rather horrible Nasty demon-lord that seeks to buy our souls
H: Santa -- An indescribably Vile lard demon that seeks to never give me that fucking Power Ranger Robot Toy thing, and no I will never let that go goddamn you, even if it has been over a decade
I: Matt Damon -- Misunderestimated
J: John Wilkes Booth -- Good shot; Bad Man
K: Galactus -- Eville
L: Frankenstein's Monster -- Evil
M: The Borg. -- Misunderstood
N: Emperor Palpatine -- Misunderstood, the ability to shoot lightning from one's hand is sufficient to redeem any personality flaws
O: Sally Strothers -- Yes
P: Cat Stevens -- Evil, by God, there are few things more horrible than listening to a man who can't sing, but insists on doing so anyway
Q: Blackbeard The Pirate -- Misunderstood, having "The" as your middle name will screw any kid up a little bit
R: Karl Rove -- Misunderstood
S: John Wayne Gacy -- This space intentionally left blank
T: The shark from 'Jaws' -- Misunderstood (at least thats what people who have the benefit of not being eaten alive get to say)

And my own addition:

U: Hitler -- Possibly the most misunderstood figure in history. All the bad press he gets is really due to poor handwriting and syntax. It's not his fault that his memos to "Invite Poland" (He thought that they were being left out of everything, and didn't want that to continue) and the one about "Exterminating the Jewish Houses" (All he wanted to do was clean out any potential roach infestations."
Divine Imaginary Fluff
09-08-2005, 06:59
I don't believe in evil, but I'll answer anyway, altough in as silly a way as possible:

m = misunderstood (is not evil, but not good either)
M = misunderstood (is actually pretty "good")
e = evil (and it is a nasty thing)
E = evil (and it is a good thing)

(note that [m] is also a substitute for unknown)

A: Henry Kissinger [m]
B: Dick Cheney [e]
C: Osama Bin Laden [m]
D: Lunatic Goofballs [E]
E: Myrth [E]
F: Paris Hilton [e]
G: Satan [m]
H: Santa [e]
I: Matt Damon [m]
J: John Wilkes Booth [m]
K: Galactus [m]
L: Frankenstein's Monster. [M]
M: The Borg. [m]
N: Emperor Palpatine [E]
O: Sally Strothers. [m]
P: Cat Stevens [m]
Q: Blackbeard The Pirate. [m]
R: Karl Rove [m]
S: John Wayne Gacy [m]
T: The shark from 'Jaws' [m]
Willamena
09-08-2005, 07:11
There is no such thing as "evil."
Lunatic Goofballs
09-08-2005, 09:10
Let's kill the subject then. LG deserves better than to have his thread degenerate like this. ;)
No I don't. :)

That's why I train scrotum-seeking attack weasels. *nod*
BackwoodsSquatches
09-08-2005, 10:08
No I don't. :)

That's why I train scrotum-seeking attack weasels. *nod*


Ok..On a completely different note...

If I found a dead clown in a ditch somehwere, and poked it with a stick...what kind of noise would the body make?
Lunatic Goofballs
09-08-2005, 22:31
Ok..On a completely different note...

If I found a dead clown in a ditch somehwere, and poked it with a stick...what kind of noise would the body make?

Depends on the type of clown. SOme don't make any noise at all(except for a light squishy noise). But there are the occasional honking clown corpses that make loud hnking sounds when poked. These are quite entertaining.

Then there are the booby-trapped clowns. WHen poked, they make a 'sssssssssss' sound. That's the sound of Crazy Purple Knockout Gas being released from the corpse. Once you have been immobilized by the trapped clown corpse, his friends will show up and have their way with you.

Eventually, you will be dumped naked in the middle of the desert with nothing but a banana cream pie for company. :)
Lord-General Drache
09-08-2005, 22:33
Depends on the type of clown. SOme don't make any noise at all(except for a light squishy noise). But there are the occasional honking clown corpses that make loud hnking sounds when poked. These are quite entertaining.

Then there are the booby-trapped clowns. WHen poked, they make a 'sssssssssss' sound. That's the sound of Crazy Purple Knockout Gas being released from the corpse. Once you have been immobilized by the trapped clown corpse, his friends will show up and have their way with you.

Eventually, you will be dumped naked in the middle of the desert with nothing but a banana cream pie for company. :)

....I like banana cream pie....