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Political Jiu-jitsu on Fred Phelps

The Nazz
07-08-2005, 23:06
If you don't know who Fred Phelps is, well, good for you, because you've missed out on one of the more loathesome creatures to ever claim to be human. He's a gay-hating whackjob so extreme that even notorious gay-haters like the Dobsonites look at him and say "what the fuck are you smoking?" He's the proprietor of godhatesfags.com, and that's the site that shows his kind side.

Well lately, old Freddy, who made his bones by protesting the Matthew Shepard funeral and performances of the stage play commemorating his life, has stopped limiting his protests to gay funerals and has taken on the US military, protesting what seem to be the funerals of random soldiers killed in Iraq. The next family to be victimized will be the family of Sgt. Christopher Taylor of Opelika, AL.

Some enterprising friends of the family have decided to fight back, not by trying to shut Phelps and his moronic followers up, but by using their protests to raise money for Taylor's widow and their children. How? By getting people to pledge money for each minute that Phelps and his idiots protest the funeral. (http://www.wtvm.com/Global/story.asp?S=3685483&nav=8fapcz4I)All these ladies are asking for is a nickel, dime or quarter pledge per minute that Phelps protests Taylor's funeral.

Yoannon asked, "I thought if we could do this and get some money for Sgt. Taylor's wife, to make up for this man putting such a stain on the last peaceful moment she has with him, why not?"

"That's already enough of a burden on the family to have to deal with that, especially with the kids. Then have some guy sharing his views on something that has nothing to do with the family," said Sanders.

Yoannon has set up a phone number and e-mail address where you can send your pledge.

"They can just e-mail me their name, phone number and what they want to pledge. I'll get back to them and give them the information where they can send the money to."

She said it's the least they can do in this time of grief.

"If he wants to spill his hate, we'll spill our love and money."

If you wish to make a pledge, you can contact Yoannon at (706)366-0945. To e-mail your information, send it to sgt.taylorfund@hotmail.com.

If you wish to make a flat donation, you can do so by stopping by or sending it to any Charter Bank location. In Opelika, you can call (334)742-0266. The mailing address is:

Charter Bank
114 S. 7th Street
Opelika, AL 36801

Make your donation to the Sgt. Christopher Taylor Fund. There are two accounts, so you need to specify the one for which you wish to donate. One is set up for "wife and kids," and the other is just "kids."
Brilliant idea I think--they respect Phelps' right to be a douchebag and raise money for Sgt. Taylor's family.
Vetalia
07-08-2005, 23:09
Excellent news. This is the only way you can stifle that hatred, by responding to it with peace and love for its victims. People will see this and compare it to that hate monger and his voice will grow weaker and weaker. Phelps thrives on hatred, and responding to it with love will cause the downfall of that evil man.
Kaitonia
07-08-2005, 23:14
Excellent news. This is the only way you can stifle that hatred, by responding to it with peace and love for its victims. People will see this and compare it to that hate monger and his voice will grow weaker and weaker. Phelps thrives on hatred, and responding to it with love will cause the downfall of that evil man.


Though I doubt he's a monster out of a Disney film, it would still be worth a shot. Maybe he will shrivel up and die.
Vetalia
07-08-2005, 23:15
Though I doubt he's a monster out of a Disney film, it would still be worth a shot. Maybe he will shrivel up and die.

He's worse than any Disney monster, he's one of truly Biblical proportions.
Sabbatis
07-08-2005, 23:15
Thanks for posting that.

Fred Phelps has accomplished a very difficult thing - he has managed to unite every sane person in America, if not the world, against him - from the anarchists to the hard-core right wing.

That is a unification that professional politicians wish they could accomplish - and Freddy has done it all by himself, to himself.
Swimmingpool
07-08-2005, 23:16
This is the best story since we heard about that old man who totally pwned those two burglers!
Wurzelmania
07-08-2005, 23:17
Good on you. The sooner this guy realises the jig is up, the better.
Haloman
07-08-2005, 23:18
That's an incredible idea.

Fred Phelps is an embarassment to mankind.

Darwin is spinning in his grave.
New Fuglies
07-08-2005, 23:19
Sigh I wish creepy Fred "Kreuger" Phelps would come to Canada to display his antics. Oh wait, I think he may be banned from entering the country and even if not he'd be arrested, charged then deported soon enough back to where that sort of behavior is acceptable.

Thank God I am Canadian. :)
Blood Moon Goblins
07-08-2005, 23:28
Though I doubt he's a monster out of a Disney film, it would still be worth a shot. Maybe he will shrivel up and die.
Perhaps we could hire some kids to throw water baloons at him, that might work.
Gartref
07-08-2005, 23:29
Great idea and all, but still not as satisfying as beating Phelp's face with a baseball bat. Can't we do both?
Sabbatis
07-08-2005, 23:55
Trouble is, the guy feeds on attention. This idea of undraising is a good one, but it continues to draw attention to him.

The best way would be for everyone, particularly the media, to completely ignore him - frustrating as the seeming inactivity would be. It would be nice if this thought were published by media, bloggers, etc.. Doesn't seem a practical solution, though.
Mesatecala
07-08-2005, 23:57
The things he does cause such a stir.. so it would be hard to keep the media from pointing the spotlight at him.

I personally think he's a despicable awful man... especially for protesting at funerals. That turns my stomach.
Cannot think of a name
08-08-2005, 00:00
Great idea and all, but still not as satisfying as beating Phelp's face with a baseball bat. Can't we do both?
In the long run the pledge solution is the better one-you don't want to give Freddie a chance to martyr himself.

This is the greatest table turn idea I have seen in a long ass time and it's totally win win. I think I just might pledge (as long as they can wait until Sept when I get paid...mmm hand to mouth, but I'll take the hit if it delivers a blow to Freddie)
Ravea
08-08-2005, 00:10
I wouldn't mind doing some Real Jui-Jitsu on Fred Phelps. Or better yet, Ninjitsu.

Thanks for posting this.
The Noble Men
08-08-2005, 00:14
To think, with Blairs' new laws to get rid of preachers of hatred, I can't wait until Fred comes here.

He'll be beat up (here's why (http://www.godhatesfags.com/featured/20050707_subway-bomb.html)) then deported.

YAY!
The Noble Men
08-08-2005, 00:19
Just wondering, has any church condemned his actions?

Has the Pope told him to shut up? Did the Scientologists refuse his credit card?
The Nazz
08-08-2005, 00:29
In the long run the pledge solution is the better one-you don't want to give Freddie a chance to martyr himself.

This is the greatest table turn idea I have seen in a long ass time and it's totally win win. I think I just might pledge (as long as they can wait until Sept when I get paid...mmm hand to mouth, but I'll take the hit if it delivers a blow to Freddie)
That's how I feel about it as well--ignoring him is fine and all, but making his hatred work against him is even better, karmically speaking.
New Watenho
08-08-2005, 00:55
I think it's excellently ironic that this should be done for him, but unfortunately, unlike his own tenacity, it won't last. He can and will keep picketing forever, because he's obsessed, but the public will lose interest in and forget about drives like this (assuming that such drives happen at more than one event he pickets). Shame, really.
JuNii
08-08-2005, 01:01
I think it's excellently ironic that this should be done for him, but unfortunately, unlike his own tenacity, it won't last. He can and will keep picketing forever, because he's obsessed, but the public will lose interest in and forget about drives like this (assuming that such drives happen at more than one event he pickets). Shame, really.not if a fund is set up and the pledge money is donated to the school, family, event that Fred Phelgm protests against at the time of protest.
Ekland
08-08-2005, 01:12
That is one of the most brilliant things I have seen in quite some time. :D
Zooke
08-08-2005, 01:15
Just wondering, has any church condemned his actions?

Has the Pope told him to shut up? Did the Scientologists refuse his credit card?

I had never heard of this guy before, so I looked up his website. I read about 2 paragraphs of his rants and couldn't stand any more. This guy says he is a Baptist minister, but there is no organized Christian religion that supports this kind of trash. I hope they make a mint off this cretin.
Straughn
08-08-2005, 01:19
Excellent post, Nazz, as always.
I'm impressed by how the argument spectrum that usually polarizes here appears pretty united in recognizing what a bilous bowel-drain Phelps is.
Kudos to you all.
*bows*
Sdaeriji
08-08-2005, 01:21
The worst part about this guy and his group is that they're little more than religious ambulance chasers. They go around picketting and protesting and generally causing ill will wherever they go, in the hopes that they will instigate people opposed to them to hit them or throw something at them or otherwise perpetuate violence, just so they can sue the event holders and the town and everyone they can. We had a big campus wide meeting about it when he came to UNH a year or two ago.
Sdaeriji
08-08-2005, 01:30
I just pledged 25 cents a minute. :)
The Noble Men
08-08-2005, 01:36
I just pledged 25 cents a minute. :)

WOO! YAY!

However, you will either be paying $3000, or 1/8th of a dollar.
Sdaeriji
08-08-2005, 01:37
WOO! YAY!

However, you will either be paying $3000, or 1/8th of a dollar.

Well, the way I figured it, the protest can't last longer than like 2 hours, because the funeral can't be that long. So that's a $30 donation, which is about what I would like to donate.
The Noble Men
08-08-2005, 01:55
Well, the way I figured it, the protest can't last longer than like 2 hours, because the funeral can't be that long. So that's a $30 donation, which is about what I would like to donate.

Suppose. Provided Fred isn't shot 30 seconds into it.
Vetalia
08-08-2005, 01:58
Suppose. Provided Fred isn't shot 30 seconds into it.

I wouldn't mind being forced to donate less if that was the end of the protest.
The Noble Men
08-08-2005, 02:04
I wouldn't mind being forced to donate less if that was the end of the protest.

I think many of us would donate more.
Avertide
08-08-2005, 02:08
I think many of us would donate more.

Hear Hear!
Allemonde
08-08-2005, 02:12
To think, with Blairs' new laws to get rid of preachers of hatred, I can't wait until Fred comes here.

He'll be beat up (here's why (http://www.godhatesfags.com/featured/20050707_subway-bomb.html)) then deported.

YAY!

Jeez I hope he does go to the UK and a bunch of Brits beat the shit out of him. Especially after what he said about the Queen Mum and Princess Di.

Karma for Phelps

He has a heart attack and dies (a) He gets reincarnated as a lesbian or (b) He meets Jesus and Jesus decides to condemm him to hell for eternity

Also he says that god hates Sweden.....I hope he gets beaten up by a group of Ikea workers!!!!!!
New Sancrosanctia
08-08-2005, 02:14
i'm normally somewhat moderate on gun control, but the continued existence of this scum-sucking sonofabitch is proof positive that this nation does not have a gun control problem. clearly, the right people are not armed enough.
The Nazz
08-08-2005, 02:17
Jeez I hope he does go to the UK and a bunch of Brits beat the shit out of him. Especially after what he said about the Queen Mum and Princess Di.

Karma for Phelps

He has a heart attack and dies (a) He gets reincarnated as a lesbian or (b) He meets Jesus and Jesus decides to condemm him to hell for eternity

Also he says that god hates Sweden.....I hope he gets beaten up by a group of Ikea workers!!!!!!
Off topic--but hell, it's my thread and I can do whatever I want to it--I saw a pin yesterday that said "May the fetus you save turn out to be gay." :D
The Noble Men
08-08-2005, 02:19
Jeez I hope he does go to the UK and a bunch of Brits beat the shit out of him. Especially after what he said about the Queen Mum and Princess Di.

Karma for Phelps

He has a heart attack and dies (a) He gets reincarnated as a lesbian or (b) He meets Jesus and Jesus decides to condemm him to hell for eternity

Also he says that god hates Sweden.....I hope he gets beaten up by a group of Ikea workers!!!!!!

If he does come here I'll be in line with a Katana.

Hmmm... the whole "Karma" thing takes too long and might not work. I say we force his eyelids open and make him watch a video of a man eyeing up another man in a homosexual manner, on a loop, for two hours.

And how can he say God hates Sweden? Sweden isn't even in the Bible!

Besides, a lot of great things come from Sweden. Like meatballs. And Fass. Fass rocks.
Animarnia
08-08-2005, 02:51
If they accept international donations via Paypal...I'd donate.
Niccolo Medici
08-08-2005, 12:21
Ahhh...Reading this was like a fresh breeze passing over a landfill. For a moment you forget about the raging stink all around you.

Strangely enough, it reminds me of an old movement against militant Vegans in the US as well. "For every animal you don't eat, I'll eat three."

The same kind of proverbial kick to the crotch that makes people take notice. I'm waiting for the Iraq war inspired "F*cking for peace" movement to take hold on the nation.
Allemonde
09-08-2005, 05:42
If he does come here I'll be in line with a Katana.

Hmmm... the whole "Karma" thing takes too long and might not work. I say we force his eyelids open and make him watch a video of a man eyeing up another man in a homosexual manner, on a loop, for two hours.

And how can he say God hates Sweden? Sweden isn't even in the Bible!

Besides, a lot of great things come from Sweden. Like meatballs. And Fass. Fass rocks.

Hmm......forcing Phelps to watch hours and hours of gay porn(with an eyelid holder) would be absolutly fab. Yes this bugger hates everything that his stupid little narrow mind can't accept. He even hates America and supports Osama!!!!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Phelps
The Nazz
09-08-2005, 05:54
If they accept international donations via Paypal...I'd donate.
Send the organizer an email--I'd be surprised if they don't.
Mesatecala
09-08-2005, 05:56
Hmm......forcing Phelps to watch hours and hours of gay porn(with an eyelid holder) would be absolutly fab. Yes this bugger hates everything that his stupid little narrow mind can't accept. He even hates America and supports Osama!!!!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Phelps

He's also an allege child abuser and wife beater.

"The distributed text describes Phelps as a ferocious child-abuser and wife-beater and proposes that he was instrumental in the death of his son Fred Phelps Jr.'s lover/possible first wife, a 17-year old girl named Debbie Valgos. Most of these claims are supported by two of Phelps' sons and one of his daughters, but are denied by their other siblings, who are not estranged from Phelps."
Gauthier
09-08-2005, 05:59
Here's an online petition for cosmic and karmic justice that has immediate results: It's to petition Kansas to have Fred Phelps buried in San Francisco when he dies. Sign up!

Send Fred Phelps to San Francisco for Burial (http://www.petitiononline.com/fpsf0911/petition.html)
Mesatecala
09-08-2005, 06:00
Here's an online petition for cosmic and karmic justice that has immediate results: It's to petition Kansas to have Fred Phelps buried in San Francisco when he dies. Sign up!

Send Fred Phelps to San Francisco for Burial (http://www.petitiononline.com/fpsf0911/petition.html)

He should be buried next to a garbage dump in a unmarked grave.
The Nazz
09-08-2005, 06:01
Here's an online petition for cosmic and karmic justice that has immediate results: It's to petition Kansas to have Fred Phelps buried in San Francisco when he dies. Sign up!

Send Fred Phelps to San Francisco for Burial (http://www.petitiononline.com/fpsf0911/petition.html)
Alas--no one gets buried in San Francisco anymore--they all get sent down the peninsula to Colma. Land is too valuable in the city to be wasted on graves.

Of course, you could always send Phelps to Wilton Manors, FL--it's the new reigning queendom of gay people per capita.
Andaluciae
09-08-2005, 06:02
Isn't Fred Phelps the guy who said that the members of his church relish in glory every time there is a disaster? And isn't he the one who claims that the members of his church are essentially equivalent to God on Earth? Yep, that's him.
Mesatecala
09-08-2005, 06:03
Anybody going to protest at Phelps funeral?
The Nazz
09-08-2005, 06:05
Anybody going to protest at Phelps funeral?
If he ever makes it down this way, I'll be there with a counter-protest sign in one hand and my camera in the other, recording it for posterity.
Gauthier
09-08-2005, 06:07
Anybody going to protest at Phelps funeral?

If I had the money I would hire The Village People to sing at his funeral as the ultimate send-off.

Or Clay Aiken.

Or better yet, all of them.
Oak Trail
09-08-2005, 06:16
I got a question. If someone shoots Freddy here, would there be a Jury in this country to convict the killer or would they just let him go because he got rid of a son of a bitch?
Gymoor II The Return
09-08-2005, 06:16
If I had the money I would hire The Village People to sing at his funeral as the ultimate send-off.

Or Clay Aiken.

Or better yet, all of them.

George Michael too. Or he could be the bathroom attendant :p
Poliwanacraca
09-08-2005, 06:17
That's just brilliant. Yay for making Phelps help people in spite of himself. :)
Ravenclaws
09-08-2005, 06:53
If I had a credit card, I'd so be donating via PayPal now. Just to shove it up Phelps' bigoted, wrinkled arse. I hope his afterlife consists of him being raped by a gang of pissed-off gays for all eternity.
The Black Forrest
09-08-2005, 07:34
Alas--no one gets buried in San Francisco anymore--they all get sent down the peninsula to Colma. Land is too valuable in the city to be wasted on graves.

Of course, you could always send Phelps to Wilton Manors, FL--it's the new reigning queendom of gay people per capita.

Colma!!! Not too many people know of that place. A true Necropolis! ;)
The Nazz
09-08-2005, 14:45
Colma!!! Not too many people know of that place. A true Necropolis! ;)
One of the best bumper stickers I ever saw said "It's good to be alive in Colma." It only works if you know the story, but if you know it...
Sdaeriji
10-08-2005, 10:53
Here's the e-mail I got in response to my pledge:

Thank you Matthew,

Phelps' group protested for 30 minutes, and then went to another
funneral.
But the supporters way out numbered them. they were allowed a small
penned
in area across from the church, so they looked like the animals they
act
like.

I am somewhat amazed at how far this fund raiser has reached, we
actually
got an email from Thailand! Information age, all it took was someone
putting the article out there, I have never even heard of the sites in
which
it has reached.

Again Thank you for your pledge. I have always been the person to say
"wow,
someone should do something about that" this time I couldn't just sit
by.
When I read the initial article about Sgt. Taylor, which started out
warm
and sweet, reading about how he was only 22, and had a wife and two
children, and they had known each other since they were in seventh
grade my
heart was torn in two. Then when I read the paragraph about phelps it
made
my blood boil, I was at work and knew I had to do something, I couldn't
concentrate. so I emailed and called the reporter and thank God he felt
the
exact same way and he put myself and my friend on the news. An here I
am
emailing people from all over the United States and the World.

Thank you Again an please send you pledge of $7.70 to the following
address..

Sgt. Christopher Taylor Fund
Charter Bank
114 S. 7th Street
Opelika, AL 36801
334-742-0266

God Bless You.
Sincerly
Melissa Yoannon and Danielle Sanders
Military Wives and Troop Supporters


I am donating $25 anyway.
The Nazz
10-08-2005, 16:00
Thanks for the update Sdaerji, and for the donation.
Bolol
10-08-2005, 16:04
Brilliant idea I think--they respect Phelps' right to be a douchebag and raise money for Sgt. Taylor's family.

YEAH!!!