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What would it take?

We look to movies and we see several theories.

1 Alien Invasion - world unites to defeat the common foe.
2 Asteroid - world unites to destroy rock.
3 God announces existence - world unites to please deity.
4 God does not exist - world unites as religious differences no longer matter.
5 Discovery of extra terrestral life - world unites to find other beings to fight against.
6 Bill and Ted - music unites the world, "in the future even the dirt is clean!"
7 End of the world - no world, no people, no problem.

1. The idea of Alien Invasion is sheer fiction, it is never going to happen (read up on physics)

2. Joint enterprises have never broth about "world peace". The disputes would continue after the "rock" was destroyed.

3. There is No God(s), belief in supernatural powers has been disproved!

4. God is dead, but his shadow remains. Do not underestimate the power of useless harmful ideas to persist. Besides assuming the shadow (and its threat to humanity) is vanquished there still would be ethical and political conflicts to deal with.... The world however would be more peaceful...

5. It would bring greater understanding/perspective, but number 1 works both ways... No!

6. LOL... No!

7. Yes, the only true peace that could be achieved on this little planet...(depressing is it not?)

Yup, seven is the one......

Look at all the petty little back biting and posturing on this forum alone and see that world peace is a fantasy notion.....

it is very depressing to have to admit that its number 7, but human nature creates conflict

but who would just love it if the music of bill and ted could unify the world, i can only dream

I have another suggestion which almost fits number 7, but not quite: All humans spontaneously become STERILE. Humanity dies out, non-violently. It's not really the end of the world and peace is achieved :D

I have another suggestion which almost fits number 7, but not quite: All humans spontaneously become STERILE. Humanity dies out, non-violently. It's not really the end of the world and peace is achieved :D

No, as life would continue, and life involves struggle and conflict (of sorts) right down to the lowliest bacteria. Besides another sentiant life-form could evolve and its back to square one. Only a completely sterile Earth would be a peaceful Earth.

Amestria']No, as life would continue, and life involves struggle and conflict (of sorts) right down to the lowliest bacteria. Besides another sentiant life-form could evolve and its back to square one. Only a completely sterile Earth would be a peaceful Earth.Ah, but humans are the only ones that have gone to war over such vast distances and such silly reasons.

Ah, but humans are the only ones that have gone to war over such vast distances and such silly reasons.

Yes war would end, but conflict and evolution by natural selection would not. Also a new sentient life form could arise, independently recreate society and thus war....

Ah, but humans are the only ones that have gone to war over such vast distances and such silly reasons.

Though we are not the only ones on earth who have "organized" wars, many species of ants does the same for some of the same reasons we do like slaves and territory.

Though we are not the only ones on earth who have "organized" wars, many species of ants does the same for some of the same reasons we do like slaves and territory.That's why I said "vast distances". ;)

Though we are not the only ones on earth who have "organized" wars, many species of ants does the same for some of the same reasons we do like slaves and territory.

Oh right the ants, I keep forgetting the ants....

Amestria']1. The idea of Alien Invasion is sheer fiction, it is never going to happen (read up on physics)


What in physics says Alien invasion is impossible?

My opinion is the world will never unite unless we evolve beyond our petty differences and religious fanaticism, and our population needs to be reduced, because logically, if it isn’t the world will run very tight on resources and we’ll be fighting each other even more for them.

If world peace ever occurs people like me will have nothing to do ....

Though we are not the only ones on earth who have "organized" wars, many species of ants does the same for some of the same reasons we do like slaves and territory.

don't forget chimps. Aggressive. Territorial.

1. just because nothing can travel faster than light and the nearest place an alien could come from is millions of light years away doesn't mean aliens can't live for more than a million years and haven't been traveling here since b4 we were born, or that they found a faster way to get here (non str8 line). however if aliens did attack sure we'd unite 2 defeat them but there would still be fighting between ourselves

2. the americans blow up the rock and people still hate other poeple and there isn't peace.

3. An all powerful god could easily trick us in2 thinking he doesn't exist, doesn't mean that he does, but if he did and proved it to every living person and then told them not 2 fight or they would go 2 hell, people would still fight, there would be less war etc but not world peace.

4. i think this is the best realistic chance we have, religon is so imbedded in history and in2 people and passed down and brainwashed in2 kids b4 they can read that it even though for many of us it seems obvious that there is no god, others go on beliving in things they can't see/hear etc. or say other things like the sun and waves and flowers prove his existance. not to get in2 a full religous argument, but i just don't understand how any1 of reasonable intellegance can belive in GOD. i mean what do you say when ur child tells you he has an imaginary friend? no sorry son ur imaginary friend isn't real but jesus is. yes it's different because this big book says so.

5. i think that combined with 1. is possible but unrealistic and wouldn't compleatly bring about world peace

6. we've created the ultimate sound and it sounds like this... it's a nice thought, i haven't seen the movie but i already discount this one and really discount any idea that there could be world peace, while man can make decisions there will be disagrements and no peace

leaving only 7. as the real solution... prep those nukes for world peace

Here's a theory:

Using advanced geo-science, we predict the next Krakatoa.

Before the volcano goes 'FOOM', we dump into it's throat the world's supply of marijuana. WHen the explosion occurs, the resulting cloud of smoke envelops the world exposing all world citizens to it's vapors.

It would be wise to have large supplies of twinkies and pop tarts in major world cities. *nod* :D

And put HUGE lava-lamps on town squares :P

Seven is probably the only one that would work, in my opinion. One thing about the god: if it revealed itself, there would always be people who would say "No, that´s not a god! That´s a superweapon constructed by terrorists! K
ill it!", and if it was proven that there isn´t a god, there would stillk be people going "No, because your science, this spawn of Satan has killked it! BURN ALL SCIENCE! KILL THESE BLASPHEMERS!".

What would it take?

We look to movies and we see several theories.

1 Alien Invasion - world unites to defeat the common foe.
2 Asteroid - world unites to destroy rock.
3 God announces existence - world unites to please deity.
4 God does not exist - world unites as religious differences no longer matter.
5 Discovery of extra terrestral life - world unites to find other beings to fight against.
6 Bill and Ted - music unites the world, "in the future even the dirt is clean!"
7 End of the world - no world, no people, no problem.

1. if they travel that far and for that long. they would probably just redirect a few asteriods into the earth and move in when the dust settles.
2. If we happened to see it coming, we'd unite for a few hours before it wipes out 99% of all life.
3. God announces existance. World united and attempts to invade heaven.
4. Athiests come to power. Start civil war against fundies and religious organistations. All sent to 're-education camps'.
5. if we travel that far and for that long. we would probably just redirect a few asteriods into their planet and move in when the dust settles.
6. More likely a Britney Spears song start a third world war. After 100,000,000 deathsm Britney is put on trial for war crimes in the Hague and sentenced to death as a warning to all future teen-pop singers.
7. People move to another planet and start all over again.

Here's a theory:

Using advanced geo-science, we predict the next Krakatoa.

Before the volcano goes 'FOOM', we dump into it's throat the world's supply of marijuana. WHen the explosion occurs, the resulting cloud of smoke envelops the world exposing all world citizens to it's vapors.

It would be wise to have large supplies of twinkies and pop tarts in major world cities. *nod* :D

yeah

I would have to say alien invasion is most likely in my book. I can't think of a way to prove that there is no God, so I am not looking for peave anytime soon

Amestria']3. There is No God(s), belief in supernatural powers has been disproved!

What? When did that happen? :rolleyes:

7. is going a little to far lets say WWIII that kills something like 1/4 of all people on Earth from WMD's and instead of the UN (weak) man decides on at least some planetary unity. Our differences can seem petty when your trying to survive. Of course there will always be fools out there trying to keep man seperate but I have confidence that sanity will prevail.

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3. God announces existance. World united and attempts to invade heaven.


The scary thing is I can see that happening too :eek:

Amestria]Yes war would end, but conflict and evolution by natural selection would not. Also a new sentient life form could arise, independently recreate society and thus war....

The problem with this argument is that wars are, really, simply a form of natural selection. Each country is fighting another one for superiority... it's just survival of the fittest.

The problem with this argument is that wars are, really, simply a form of natural selection. Each country is fighting another one for superiority... it's just survival of the fittest.No its not. Survival of the fittest only really becomes important when two or more species compete for something they need to survive. Humans have what it takes to occupy our "ecological niche" without anyone having to suffer due to competition.

4. i think this is the best realistic chance we have, religon is so imbedded in history and in2 people and passed down and brainwashed in2 kids b4 they can read that it even though for many of us it seems obvious that there is no god, others go on beliving in things they can't see/hear etc. or say other things like the sun and waves and flowers prove his existance. not to get in2 a full religous argument, but i just don't understand how any1 of reasonable intellegance can belive in GOD. i mean what do you say when ur child tells you he has an imaginary friend? no sorry son ur imaginary friend isn't real but jesus is. yes it's different because this big book says so.

Fine. I guess the Big Bang isn't real than, Since noone has ever seen it. You see, to accept the Big Bang, is to accept something without any real proof, like God. Therefore, you are a hypocrite. You believe in something that takes faith, because scientists say so, with no proof. There we go. We just disproved God, the Big Bang, and Evolution all at the same time. :rolleyes:

What? When did that happen? :rolleyes:

Well actually atheist thought predates Christianity, its just that the pagans and everyother religious faction did'nt care for them. Once there was no longer the threat of being burned hanging over their heads, David Hume and Darwin (among others) speedily killed the idea of God by a thousand cuts. Neitzsche saw this, even through his hatered of all things English, and pronounced this death had occured. Yet the horrible shadow that the idea of God had cast would remain and have to be vanquished.

We are still trying and it is only a matter of time......

3. There is No God(s), belief in supernatural powers has been disproved!



Really? Wow, I suppose I've hand my head in the sand for the past millenia :rolleyes:

Amestria']Well actually atheist thought predates Christianity, its just that the pagans and everyother religious faction did'nt care for them. Once there was no longer the threat of being burned hanging over their heads, David Hume and Darwin (among others) speedily killed the idea of God by a thousand cuts. Neitzsche saw this, even through his hatered of all things English, and pronounced this death had occured. Yet the horrible shadow that the idea of God had cast would remain and have to be vanquished.

We are still trying and it is only a matter of time......



Oh...my....goodness.....

I'm seriously beginning to doubt intelligent life exists in this thread.

Fine. I guess the Big Bang isn't real than, Since noone has ever seen it. You see, to accept the Big Bang, is to accept something without any real proof, like God. Therefore, you are a hypocrite. You believe in something that takes faith, because scientists say so, with no proof. There we go. We just disproved God, the Big Bang, and Evolution all at the same time. :rolleyes:

Thats flawed logic and you know it! Evolution has extensive proof and if you fail to recognize that you are unfortunatly ingnorant. As for the big bang, it is an explanation that fits what we currently know. There are numerius theories to how it happened and what that holds for the future. Remember thousands of years ago primitive man thought rain was caused by gods in the clouds and that the sun was a golden chariot (among other things). Those where supernatural explanations that where made in ignorance to how the physical world actually works. We all know how well the sungod chariot, rain gods, and Earth centered universe have withstood the test of time.....

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Really? Wow, I suppose I've hand my head in the sand for the past millenia :rolleyes:

Yes you have.....

Amestria']Thats flawed logic and you know it! Evolution has extensive proof and if you fail to recognize that you are unfortunatly ingnorant. As for the big bang, it is an explanation that fits what we currently know. There are numerius theories to how it happened and what that holds for the future. Remember thousands of years ago primitive man thought rain was caused by gods in the clouds and that the sun was a golden chariot (among other things). Those where supernatural explanations that where made in ignorance to how the physical world actually works. We all know how well the sungod chariot, rain gods, and Earth centered universe have withstood the test of time.....


Actually, Big Bang is more of a boon for Intelligent Design advocates. We love it :D

Amestria']Yes you have.....



You see, whenever one of us ID people say "I have evidence to disprove evolution once and for all!" people take it with a grain of salt. Just like I'm doing to your statements which make some pretty strong claims that are, in all probability, false too. You can't just "kill" Christianity with a mediocre philosopher and a scientific theory. When you can actually do the impossible and disprove the existence of God, then you will have eliminated Christianity. Until then, you're only amusing me ;)

Actually, Big Bang is more of a boon for Intelligent Design advocates. We love it :D

Amazing, for a idea with "Intelligent" in its name, it is completly the opposite.
There is no Intelligent design behind the Universe!

You see, whenever one of us ID people say "I have evidence to disprove evolution once and for all!" people take it with a grain of salt. Just like I'm doing to your statements which make some pretty strong claims that are, in all probability, false too. You can't just "kill" Christianity with a mediocre philosopher and a scientific theory. When you can actually do the impossible and disprove the existence of God, then you will have eliminated Christianity. Until then, you're only amusing me ;)

But we have killed him! God has been disproved! HaHaHaHaHaHaHa

We Atheists have been forced to keep hidden long enough. You theists can no longer burn us, this is our world now....... Learn to live with it!

Human nature is far to aggresive to live in peace, our only way to live in peace i believe is if we happened to find an alien race near/above our line of technology. This way the world would have something to unite them, it's just a matter of a common enemy. Let's just hope its us who finds them and not them who finds us, i dont think sending a virus into the mothership will work if they come to us :(. Chances are as well that if an alien race does find us, they'll likely be aggresive just like us, a docile creature doesnt get too the top of the food chain. And as for them not being able to get to us because we're lightyears from any other star, Einstein said it best. Time is Relative, If we live for 100 years, 10 years if a nice chunk of time, if we lived for 1,000 years, 10 years wouldnt be that big of a deal. If an alien race lives for 10,000 of our years, traveling for 100 lightyears to our planet would only be a short fraction of their life. As for the God thing, if he was proven wrong or if he showed up in the sky telling us to follow him, there would always be people who dont follow, they'll refuse to believe. As for the asteroid...the world would likely unite to try and destroy it, but we'd either fail and die, or destroy it and go back to our old ways after a short time of peace and united efforts to "never let this happen again."

What in physics says Alien invasion is impossible?

Burn.

Amestria']But we have killed him! God has been disproved! HaHaHaHaHaHaHa

We Atheists have been forced to keep hidden long enough. You theists can no longer burn us, this is our world now....... Learn to live with it!



:rolleyes:

1. just because nothing can travel faster than light and the nearest place an alien could come from is millions of light years away doesn't mean aliens can't live for more than a million years and haven't been traveling here since b4 we were born, or that they found a faster way to get here (non str8 line). however if aliens did attack sure we'd unite 2 defeat them but there would still be fighting between ourselves


What? Nothing can go faster than the Speed of light? Ofcourse things can go faster than light. It's theoretically possible. And i guess you're basing your argument on theory, since that's all the info we really have.

what stuff goes faster than light? Einstine would be devastated, i hold has my evidence Einstein’s theory of relativity that nothing can travel faster than light, show me ur evidence and i will consider your view point.

the big bang isn't "the" only scientific choice for a beginning, read: Stephen Hawkins - A brief history of time" he has an alternate theory based upon the theory of relativity and quantum theory, that is similar 2 a big bang theory but different in that some almighty power didn't have to snap his fingers to make the earth.

If god exists he is the most ignorant all knowing all powerful being, that we ever thought might exist. what sort of all knowing all powerful god puts the fate of every man in a book, that less than 50% of the world can read. the fact that there is so much religious division involved in believing in something you can never feel, see, touch, taste or smell. it's just an idea in ur head.

your child wants to go sk8 boarding you know it's dangerous but you have the power 2 stop him so he wont get hurt, but you let him go sk8 boarding, you just leave him with a book that tells him how dangerous it is, chances are he's not gonna read the book, but that's ok he's gotta go out and experience it for himself. The next day your son wants to go sk8 boarding again, but this time you heard on the news that there's going 2 be a big gang fight at the sk8 park, do you just hope your son will read the book you left for him and decide that it's to dangerous? NO you tell him that he can't go sk8 boarding today, or take him 2 a different sk8 park etc.
Where was god on September 11, an all powerful all knowing god, who knew so many people would die, and he had the power to stop it. I guess god just works in mysterious ways, maybe all those people were homosexuals and deserved the wroth of god, that must be it. :headbang:

Just curious how did people become "saved" more than 2005 years ago?
and what about aborigine’s as little as 500years ago, are you going to tell a little aboriginal girl that if she reads the bible and believes that she will go 2 heaven but her great grandmother is in hell because she couldn't speak english and never knew a bible existed? I think that's gross missnegulance on the part of God and for an all knowing all powerful being... that's preddy lazy really.

what stuff goes faster than light? Einstine would be devastated, i hold has my evidence Einstein’s theory of relativity that nothing can travel faster than light, show me ur evidence and i will consider your view point.

the big bang isn't "the" only scientific choice for a beginning, read: Stephen Hawkins - A brief history of time" he has an alternate theory based upon the theory of relativity and quantum theory, that is similar 2 a big bang theory but different in that some almighty power didn't have to snap his fingers to make the earth.

If god exists he is the most ignorant all knowing all powerful being, that we ever thought might exist. what sort of all knowing all powerful god puts the fate of every man in a book, that less than 50% of the world can read. the fact that there is so much religious division involved in believing in something you can never feel, see, touch, taste or smell. it's just an idea in ur head.

your child wants to go sk8 boarding you know it's dangerous but you have the power 2 stop him so he wont get hurt, but you let him go sk8 boarding, you just leave him with a book that tells him how dangerous it is, chances are he's not gonna read the book, but that's ok he's gotta go out and experience it for himself. The next day your son wants to go sk8 boarding again, but this time you heard on the news that there's going 2 be a big gang fight at the sk8 park, do you just hope your son will read the book you left for him and decide that it's to dangerous? NO you tell him that he can't go sk8 boarding today, or take him 2 a different sk8 park etc.
Where was god on September 11, an all powerful all knowing god, who knew so many people would die, and he had the power to stop it. I guess god just works in mysterious ways, maybe all those people were homosexuals and deserved the wroth of god, that must be it. :headbang:

Just curious how did people become "saved" more than 2005 years ago?
and what about aborigine’s as little as 500years ago, are you going to tell a little aboriginal girl that if she reads the bible and believes that she will go 2 heaven but her great grandmother is in hell because she couldn't speak english and never knew a bible existed? I think that's gross missnegulance on the part of God and for an all knowing all powerful being... that's preddy lazy really.

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Amestria']But we have killed him! God has been disproved! HaHaHaHaHaHaHa

We Atheists have been forced to keep hidden long enough. You theists can no longer burn us, this is our world now....... Learn to live with it!
Actually, if u count atheism as a religion, than it is the only religion that isnt growing. Hardly looks like God is dead.I hate when ppl are ignorant about the fact that other ppl believe in a God, or refuse 2 suggest that God and science ae complete polar opposites.

What would it take?


7 End of the world - no world, no people, no problem.

Cockroaches would still be here, insect warefare would reign!

Really? Wow, I suppose I've hand my head in the sand for the past millenia :rolleyes:
You've had your hand in your head in the sand :confused:

Actually, Big Bang is more of a boon for Intelligent Design advocates. We love it :D

don't forget the catholic church! They don't get enough credit for the Big Bang theory. Link (http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/aso/databank/entries/dp27bi.html)

Actually, if u count atheism as a religion, than it is the only religion that isnt growing. Hardly looks like God is .I when ppl are ignorant about the fact that other ppl believe in a God, or refuse 2 suggest that God and science ae complete polar opposites.

Don't worry about him. He's obviously an idiot. If he's to stupid to see how wrong he is, and cannot accept the fact that scientists don't know everything, and cannot know everything. Anyone that says that God has been disproven is obviously an idiot.

Evolution doesn't have much evidence, btw. All the "missing links" ever found can be classified as either 100% man, or 100% Ape. Just saying that.

You see, whenever one of us ID people say "I have evidence to disprove evolution once and for all!" people take it with a grain of salt. Just like I'm doing to your statements which make some pretty strong claims that are, in all probability, false too. You can't just "kill" Christianity with a mediocre philosopher and a scientific theory. When you can actually do the impossible and disprove the existence of God, then you will have eliminated Christianity. Until then, you're only amusing me ;)

Yeah, the "Scientific Community" has some kind of "love affair" with the Evolution THEORY that they won't accept anything else. Then, they bash religion like they are mentally 2 years old.

Yukaria... I have nothing to say. That's simply not true.

(NS) Amestria, even though you're an Atheist it doesn't make you a good person.

You're still a dick.

Foxstenikopolis- AAAARRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HOW MANY TIMES!!

...theory my buttcrack...

Foxstenikopolis- AAAARRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HOW MANY TIMES!!

...theory my buttcrack...

Your wrong. It's a theory, and requires faith to accept. The "Scientific" Communitiy wants to prove there is no God for some reason, so they are biased.

My opinion is the world will never unite unless we evolve beyond our petty differences and religious fanaticism, and our population needs to be reduced, because logically, if it isn’t the world will run very tight on resources and we’ll be fighting each other even more for them.


Hear Hear!!!

Here's my option number 8:
A devastating virus sweeps earth killing 99% of the people, strangely some people are genetcially immune but no cure is found - people die very quickly. THose who are genetically immune also have a very low fertility rate averaging at 2 children per couple.

Then by the last UN accord it is agreed that a country in Eurasia and a country in the Americas will become the new nations targetted for all the populations to migrate to/gather and start a new life.
The world economy breaks down, but most manage to get to these places, and then with the world's educational resources at their disposal they try to rebuild the world, always remembering that while they are repopulating the world (very slowly), at some cut-off stage (maybe 1 billion) life can never go back to the wasteful rapaciousness of former years. Bartering is the common mode of currency(?) and communities are centres around farms with very few cities being sustainable, and after the reinstallation of the internet, everyone prefers it. Eventually life is good, governance is generally sorted out on the local level. The people soon see the virus as what it truly was, a gift, but some of the rebellious youth start worshipping the virus. Eventually the Eurasian church of virus breaks away from the American and then hostilities rearrise, but following the brief war, both sides realise the importance of freedom and yadda yadda
eventually they colonise the moon the end!

Actually, if u count atheism as a religion, than it is the only religion that isnt growing. Hardly looks like God is dead.I hate when ppl are ignorant about the fact that other ppl believe in a God, or refuse 2 suggest that God and science ae complete polar opposites.

Actually the number of Atheists has been steadily, albiet slowly, increasing. There are, according to recent studies, between 9 million and 28 million atheists in the United States alone. Even more in Europe and Japan. In many areas of the Middle East and Africa Atheism is still illegal in the eyes of the authorities, punishable in some cases by death, so one can not determine how many there are in those areas of the world....

More important then the number of people is the quality of said people. They are scientists, philosophers, biologists, artists, inventors and proggressive activists. In other words, those who have shaped the present and will continue to shape the future.

Also, Atheism is not a religion, it is the recoginization of the truth of physical world. Atheism in fact predates Christianity. It however existed in a hostile world, belief in the supernatural was rife, Paganism (Hinduism in the case of India) was dominant and it was believed that failure to honor the Gods harmed the community. Also the tools did not exist to demonstrate the inner-workings of the physical world, the mass of humanity was illiterate and superstious, ect. Still they managed to survive, partialy by making their ideas as nonthreatening to the community as possible, until being buried under the tide that was the Christian conversion of Europe. Later these ideas would reemerge. (see Epicureanism and the Sophists for future details)

God is dead as the physical world has been recognized, the supernatural disproved or rather proved to be nothing(be it God, the flat Earth, The Earth centured universe, dragans, the Pagan dieties, ect), and the future of Humanity no is longer in the hands of theists.

(NS) Amestria, even though you're an Atheist it doesn't make you a good person.



I never claimed to be a good person, as good and evil do not exist. I am an an Overperson....

Atheists: There MAY BE a god. We'll not know until we die. If you wanna put "all dressed up and nowhere to go" on your epitaph, fine, but we're NOT SURE.
Christians: Same thing. Nobody's ever been able to prove or disprove the existance of God, but assuming said existance is proven, there's a turnip's chance inside a supernova that He'd be anything like ANY of us (Islamists, Christians, etc) can even begin to fathom, let alone understand.

Evolution is more of a theory than creationism simply because it holds MORE WATER. Then again, it might simply be the joke of a God that likes playing pranks. We do NOT KNOW. If creationism or ID happened though, it'd be NOTHING like the Bible says.

As for the solution for world peace:

There would be world peace if everyone did what I told them. :)

Here's a theory:

Using advanced geo-science, we predict the next Krakatoa.

Before the volcano goes 'FOOM', we dump into it's throat the world's supply of marijuana. WHen the explosion occurs, the resulting cloud of smoke envelops the world exposing all world citizens to it's vapors.

It would be wise to have large supplies of twinkies and pop tarts in major world cities. *nod* :D

I like this plan for world peace :D We just need to make sure it's stuffed full of Kalisti Gold . . .

Atheists: There MAY BE a god. We'll not know until we die. If you wanna put "all dressed up and nowhere to go" on your epitaph, fine, but we're NOT SURE.
Christians: Same thing. Nobody's ever been able to prove or disprove the existance of God, but assuming said existance is proven, there's a turnip's chance inside a supernova that He'd be anything like ANY of us (Islamists, Christians, etc) can even begin to fathom, let alone understand.

Evolution is more of a theory than creationism simply because it holds MORE WATER. Then again, it might simply be the joke of a God that likes playing pranks. We do NOT KNOW. If creationism or ID happened though, it'd be NOTHING like the Bible says.



There is also the possibility that there is a tea cup in orbit around Pluto or that the Universe was created by a clown named Bob. Possibilities without evidence or ideas without impressions are nothingness, to be dismissed!

Amestria']There is also the possibility that there is a tea cup in orbit around Pluto or that the Universe was created by a clown named Bob. Possibilities without evidence or ideas without impressions are nothingness, to be dismissed!

Who told you about Bob? That was suposed to be a secret, the penguins are going to be mad!

Who told you about Bob? That was suposed to be a secret, the penguins are going to be mad!

Screw the penguins!

Amestria']Screw the penguins!

Dude, I don't think that's legal unless . . . you're a penguin?!?!?

7. is going a little to far lets say WWIII that kills something like 1/4 of all people on Earth from WMD's and instead of the UN (weak) man decides on at least some planetary unity. Our differences can seem petty when your trying to survive. Of course there will always be fools out there trying to keep man seperate but I have confidence that sanity will prevail.


I'm afraid that I do not share your confidence in human sanity. there has only been a combined total of 250 years of world peace in all of human existence (i read that years ago, so don't ask for sources, because I don't remember them. history and logic tells me that it's probably true)

the only realistic world peace scenario, aside from the end of the world scenario, is if about 95% of the human population died (be it from war, famine, whatever) fewer people would create more space, and less conflict.

the alien invasion scenarios, though possible, would not have a grand enough effect to unite the world for long. after the alien enemy was defeated (IF it was defeated) the humans would go right back to fighting themselves.

the same is true for the asteroid scenario. after the threat is gone, old conflicts would re-emerge.

both of the God scenarios would have the same effect. there would still be a percentage of the population that didn't buy the explanation (existence or no existence), and some would go to extremes.

unless some brilliant person came to power and was able to convince everyone that there was a better way, world peace is highly unlikely.

Heres a possibility that has'ent been mentioned yet. Perhaps Homo Sapians will evolve into a higher life-form (Homo Superior), or create a higher life-form (like A.I.) that would replace us. Such an evolution, coupled with the technological change, could lead to a future that, at least from our current stand-point, is realitivily peaceful.

That or we wipe ourselves (and the planet) out...

Amestria']Heres a possibility that has'ent been mentioned yet. Perhaps Homo Sapians will evolve into a higher life-form (Homo Superior), or create a higher life-form (like A.I.) that would replace us. Such an evolution, coupled with the technological change, could lead to a future that, at least from our current stand-point, is realitivily peaceful.

That or we wipe ourselves (and the planet) out...

Evolution isn't a predefined course - it's simply adaptation to the current environment so you live long enough to pass on genes to the next generation that lives long enough to pass on genes.....

THere is no Homo superior future, there's little in the way of natural selection for humans to change them from what they are now, especially in the developed world.

Your AI idea has merit though.