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Who smokes? Who doesn't? I love the stuff!

Where's the "Tried it and didn't care for it" option?

Where's the "Tried it and didn't care for it" option?
Used to, but not anymore, I guess. I didn't really consider that anyone could not like it! lol sorry!

Well, I suppose it's not so much that it wasn't enjoyable, it's just that I didn't see it as a valuable way to spend my time. I've got better things to do, like working and getting an education.

Well, I suppose it's not so much that it wasn't enjoyable, it's just that I didn't see it as a valuable way to spend my time. I've got better things to do, like working and getting an education.

those are somehow mutually exclusive with getting toasted., nicely toasted?

I like to smoke on a regular basis, but not too often. I don't enjoy it as much when it becomes an every day thing for me...
But I do love it. It keeps me mindful and perceptive.

Getting baked occasionally is not synonymous with frying your brain or spending a significant amount of time stoned out of your head. You can smoke, and have a job, and go to school....

I smoke all the time and I hold both a job and go to school and I do very well in both. It's just a sad misconception thrown around that people who smoke are lazy, stupid and annoying.

Some of us are, but the majority are hard working people who like to just... chillax. That's a combo of chilling and relaxing by the way :P

chillax. That's a combo of chilling and relaxing by the way :PJimmy???
Is that you? :D

I never have. It is a major turn off for me.

I mean I can chill by other means.. like dark chocolate. I have to admit it is probably more addicting then marijuana.

Did I say anywhere in that post that I thought all pot smokers were like that? In my opinion if I started smoking pot I personally would end up spending too much time doing that as opposed to working and going to school. Besides, I can think of more than a few people who would be angry with me if I smoked and it's illegal in my country. The disadvantages outweigh the benefits in this case.

I'm curious, who has certain muysic they like to listen to while toking? For me, it's hard to go past classic stoner/psychodelic bands like Sabbath, Deep Purple, Hawkwind...and newer stuff like Orange Goblin, Sleep, Masters of Reality, Fireball Ministry, Monster Magnet...

it's illegal in my country.
GGRRRRRR I hate it when they do that!

For me I think Led Zeppelin takes the cake, and I put on those visualizations and turn the lights out. That and Matthew Good are really good to listen to stoned...

I like Wu-Tang Clan when I'm high... I like them when I'm sober too.

Noise, digital hardcore, harsh elektro, power electronics, stuff like that is good too.

I'm curious, who has certain muysic they like to listen to while toking?M.I.A. is really great, but most of the time, I smoke up while chatting with my friends. Conversation is the best music to smoke to, by far.

My conversation mode gets jammed up if the smoke is any decent. I'm lucky if I can just ....mmm what was I talking about ? Choclate frosted krispy creme donuts...mmm and mint chocolate chip ice cream...ahhhh yes now I remember. ;)

M.I.A. is really great, but most of the time, I smoke up while chatting with my friends. Conversation is the best music to smoke to, by far.
You said it! I also like to watch movies when I'm stoned! Especially fantasy movies! Lord of the Rings was AWSOME stoned!

i love the green!

*hi5*

havent smoked in a month because i ran out and wont get any for another month but I have a hard time using it in moderation so it's prolly good for me to keep away form it for a while

anyway

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love,
me

I never have. It is a major turn off for me.

I mean I can chill by other means.. like dark chocolate. I have to admit it is probably more addicting then marijuana.

Actually, you're chasing the same feeling. Chocolate, especially dark, triggers the same receptors in the body as pot (named cannabinoids, after cannabis itself ;) ). Pot hits the receptors through THC while chocolate does it through anandamide.

So, if you're waiting another month without pot, go on a chocolate binge!

"I tried it once but never inhaled." Slick Willie Clinton :eek:

Actually, you're chasing the same feeling. Chocolate, especially dark, triggers the same receptors in the body as pot (named cannabinoids, after cannabis itself ;) ). Pot hits the receptors through THC while chocolate does it through anandamide.

So, if you're waiting another month without pot, go on a chocolate binge!

Well I don't like the smell of pot and chocolate is legal (I just spent $11 in See's Candies).

Dark Chocolate is also far more beneficial:

http://www.healthcentral.com/newsdetail/408/526855.html

I'm an occasional user.

I'm curious, who has certain muysic they like to listen to while toking? For me, it's hard to go past classic stoner/psychodelic bands like Sabbath, Deep Purple, Hawkwind...and newer stuff like Orange Goblin, Sleep, Masters of Reality, Fireball Ministry, Monster Magnet...

Yeah, stoner rock all the way! Add Kyuss and Fu Manchu to the list. :)

Tool are awesome when high too.

I haven't tried it because I don't really need it, the air gets me high.

"I tried it once but never inhaled." Slick Willie Clinton :eek:


That lie cracks me up!!!!!!!!!!!

As if anyone believed him! he shoudl have just said "Hell yeah I smoked it. I still do and I love the stuff!" I think G. Bush should say the same about all the different drugs he has tried.

I haven't tried it because I don't really need it, the air gets me high.

Do you have mouldy sandwiches and/or other fungi under your bed? I had that problem once, but a quick check and removal of the objects let me breathe easy again.

one time when I quit smoking pot for a while (I had been smoking everyday/several times a day) I started to feel liek sobriety was so different that it was liek being high. but then it got mundane and I started getting high again.

Where's the "Damn hippies and your drugs! You should all be shot!" option?

Where's the "Damn hippies and your drugs! You should all be shot!" option?

It's just outside the door marked "exit".

Where's the "Damn hippies and your drugs! You should all be shot!" option?
Equating Hippies to Potsmokers isn't allowed in my polls! I hate hippies, and love weed!

I would like to clear the air with pot smoking:

Please the smoke are not losers. I smoke on a daily basis, and I graduated from high school, have a job, and plan to go to college.

I write, read, spend time with my family, and people look up to me.

Everyone knows that I smoke, and they accept it. The only concern they have it that it is illegal in the US and that I might get caught.

Pot smokers are not low-lives; many people lead rich and fullfilling lives.

Rich and fullfilling lives? I think you could be fine without it. In fact I think it is a very annoying thing. One of my friend does it, and I can never be around him when he does because it smells so foul.

Rich and fullfilling lives? I think you could be fine without it. In fact I think it is a very annoying thing. One of my friend does it, and I can never be around him when he does because it smells so foul.
I'll bet there's alot in your life that you would be fine without!

I'll bet there's alot in your life that you would be fine without!

But I'm not talking about me. I just find it to be a nasty habit.. like cigarettes.

I'm curious, who has certain muysic they like to listen to while toking? For me, it's hard to go past classic stoner/psychodelic bands like Sabbath, Deep Purple, Hawkwind...and newer stuff like Orange Goblin, Sleep, Masters of Reality, Fireball Ministry, Monster Magnet...

I don't smoke anymore. But when I did, I listened to GOV'T MULE, Dr. Dre., the Fifth Dimension, Poker Face, Cream, Parliament/Funkadelic, Bach's solo cello suites, Orf's opera Burina, Miles Davis (sketches of spain, or cooking with Miles Davis Quintet).

So is it any suprise that the dude that couldn't come up with a name is a stoner?

Probably not, I've been pretty open about it. I'm lit now.

Thing is, weed really doesn't bring anything to the table. If you're a creative person, you'll be creative person on pot. If you are a lazy person, you'll be a lazy person on pot. Too much of anything, etc. I hate when the vessel takes the blame when it's the person. ("Video games are evil, cable is evil, pot is evil, etc.") This is not to say that pot can't contribute to being lazy or creative-but you have to be in control and if you're not it's just as likely that it'll be porcelian figurines as it is weed.

I have a few controls-

I refuse to drive stoned. I know there are cats out there that say that they totally can drive stoned, even better. Drunks say that too. I can wait.

I for the most part won't smoke at work, it's a waste of weed.

Those two alone really stem use enough that I'm more than able to get a ton of crap done. And when I have nothing to do I don't have to invent shit, I can smoke.

A friend stopped for a little bit and we where sitting around, he looks at me and says-"You know what? When you quit smoking you remember what it's like to be bored."

When you post stoned, your posts ramble all over the damn place...

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Originally Posted by Aminantinia
it's illegal in my country.

GGRRRRRR I hate it when they do that!

Me too. I'm trying to fix that.

Sincerely,
Jeremy Robert Furbish
AT-NH2ME2000
FSP-MN2NH2004
www.freestateproject.org
Blaze a trail to freedom!

I don't smoke anymore. But when I did, I listened to GOV'T MULE, Dr. Dre., the Fifth Dimension, Poker Face, Cream, Parliament/Funkadelic, Bach's solo cello suites, Orf's opera Burina, Miles Davis (sketches of spain, or cooking with Miles Davis Quintet).
That's a quality enough list that the stuff on there I haven't heard I think I'll check out, though I've never been able to get into Cream.

Second Line Bands are fantastic stoned (Dirty Dozen Brass Band, etc)

Bop is good to. Nice and stoned and following a Parker line...

Third Stream jazz is cool, it's like classical chamber music with jazz solos.

But mostly it's the dissonent 20th century and free jazz.

No one ever knows what I'm talking about or cares, so I'm not going to list bands.

hell yeah. tried it. stopped it smoking. and tried it again. and again stopped it. now im trying it again. damn, where are my filters ....

That's a quality enough list that the stuff on there I haven't heard I think I'll check out, though I've never been able to get into Cream.

Second Line Bands are fantastic stoned (Dirty Dozen Brass Band, etc)

Bop is good to. Nice and stoned and following a Parker line...

Third Stream jazz is cool, it's like classical chamber music with jazz solos.

But mostly it's the dissonent 20th century and free jazz.

No one ever knows what I'm talking about or cares, so I'm not going to list bands.

Dude, free jazz like Ornette Coleman, and 5 philpin.

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention Vericose Brains, they are out of this world, as well as Bruce (no, not springsteen, although he might be cool stoned (baby we were born to run). The Band Called Bruce was such an awesome band.

Oh, Oh, Oh, I almost forgot the Hampton Grease Band, what a frickin' terriffic band.

Oh, and my absolute all time favorite Cool and the Gang.

Mahavishnu Orchestra, Jeff Beck (wired), Allman Brothers Band, Charlie Daniels Band, Derek Trucks Band, The Greatful Dead, keltic bagpipes and scottish stepdancing tunes, Jewel Clark (yodeling), early electronic music (OHM compilation), Indigo Spirit (techno/blues/classical fused).

Dude, free jazz like Ornette Coleman, and 5 philpin.

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention Vericose Brains, they are out of this world, as well as Bruce (no, not springsteen, although he might be cool stoned (baby we were born to run). The Band Called Bruce was such an awesome band.

Oh, Oh, Oh, I almost forgot the Hampton Grease Band, what a frickin' terriffic band.

Oh, and my absolute all time favorite Cool and the Gang.
Just last week I watched the remaining members of Sly and the Family Stone on the beach.

I watched Ornette live in SF. His first set was acoustic and his second was electric. In between was performance piercing (yep) and a poem that the audience modified. The poet was reading a list of the new saints and many of them where free jazz artists. He came to the end of the list and it was evident that he missed one so an audience member offered the correction, yelling "Sun Ra!!!!!!!" The poet stoped for the cheering and then added, "Saint Sun Ra"

I dig Sex Mob because they're kinda goofy free jazz, doing The Macerana etc...

The best free jazz stoned, though, is the best free jazz under any conditions-Eric Dolphy.

How can you not get into Cream??

Anyway, yeah I love smoking, usually weed. "Cos I can". :p Who cares if its illegal? Anyway, when you're high, you care about less things, or care about stupid things inplace of normal things, so that where the lazy concept comes from. Because you don't care about something means you're not going to do it, especially when you're high.

Music I listen to is! Weirdly enough dance music... No other time in my life, just high. You know the sort, the ones with the high pitched singing vioces, like Scooter etc. I think you can see where im getting to..

Rich and fullfilling lives? I think you could be fine without it. In fact I think it is a very annoying thing. One of my friend does it, and I can never be around him when he does because it smells so foul.

Yeah, I agree with that.
Pot smokers, like drunks, are no fun to be around. They talk rubbish and smell bad.
A friend just gave up and although a really nice guy he has changed sooooo much. He's just got his head together, he's more focused and you can discusss stuff with him whenever you want and he "in".
Also he's stayed with his latest girl friend for longer than any of the previous ones.

I've got no problem with people putting whatever they like into themselves (I used to drink alot) but you have to accept that as a smoker you are quite a pain to be around a lot of the time.

Yeah, I agree with that.
Pot smokers, like drunks, are no fun to be around. They talk rubbish and smell bad.
A friend just gave up and although a really nice guy he has changed sooooo much. He's just got his head together, he's more focused and you can discusss stuff with him whenever you want and he "in".
Also he's stayed with his latest girl friend for longer than any of the previous ones.

I've got no problem with people putting whatever they like into themselves (I used to drink alot) but you have to accept that as a smoker you are quite a pain to be around a lot of the time.

Yeah, well I have to excuse myself whenever he does it because the smell is just so repulsive. And then all that comes out of his mouth just doesn't make sense to me... he started last semester, and then his grades started to slip right at the time he started using weed.

:o Smell...bad??? :s Hardly any of my friends smoke it and they love it when Im around, infact one girl makes me blow it on her...

:o Smell...bad??? :s Hardly any of my friends smoke it and they love it when Im around, infact one girl makes me blow it on her...

Maybe that's because they are used to it. I don't use it (never have, never will).. and when I smell it I don't like it. That's just me. Personally I don't have anything against you using it, but I'll just walk out there door and take a walk... and the come back when you're done.

I somehow would like to try it, but
1. I hate tabacco
2. in Germany after smoking pot, you are not allowed to drive for quite some days (as long as they can prove that you smoked something recently, which would be up to 2 weeks as far as I have heard). (Or at least you can lose your driving license then.)

I think some of those poo-pooing pot smokers seem to be missing an important point. Some people like the occasional toke for recreational purposes, and others are full time "pot hounds" to the point where it interferes with the rest of their lives.

It's like the difference between someone who occasionally has a drink with dinner, and an alcoholic who can't face reality and constantly drinks to excess. Or someone who enjoys a nice meal compared to someone who chronically overeats and becomes obese and endangers their health. Hell, it's even like someone who has a healthy sex drive and a sex addict who can never get enough sex, or enough partners, and exposes themselves to risks through unsafe sex...

Like nearly everything else in life, Maryjane is best enjoyed in moderation ;)

Do i smoke....Oh YEAH!!! like the proverbial chimmney
But I respect Mesatecalas choice not to, its not for everyone. My GF(5YEARS) tried it a few times but it makes the room spin and she gets seasick....so more for me. I had a friend who was slightly mentally disabled and he said he couldnt smoke it did things to his head, great guy, and i think he made a responsable choice.
Does it make me lazy? a little, so i dont have any before i go to work, but im lazy in the first place.
BTW i moved 800km to live in an area with better pot laws....SO worth it. Without the criminal element i feel much better about my lifestyle,no sleazy drug dealers pushing hard drugs, no police knocking on the door. and i dont have to lie to people about it anymore.
Sabbath rock and the Beatles

Im from a long line of violent alcoholics, so yeah i think im better off with peace love and karma

Done it a few times and enjoyed it, but wouldn't do it every day. Unless I go to uni. :p

BTW i moved 800km to live in an area with better pot laws

Where's this?

Where's this?
Australia has two or three states that have decriminialised pot, i can have a plant of my own if i want.
Come over theres room, its a big country. Ill have a bong packed for you when you get off the plane

I sure do!

Like anything else in life, I dont like to do it all the time.
Hell, I wouldnt even want to have sex all the time, either...and boy howdy, do I like sex!
I dont push weed on anyone, and I sure as hell dont think it makes me any cooler, for the simple fact that I smoke it.

Booze usually makes me sicker than a dog, even before I can get drunk on it, always has..although Ive certainly given it the "College Try" more times than I can count.
Weed, however, has never steered me wrong.
Chronic use, (no pun intended), makes you a lazy bastard..so dont go crazy with the stuff....thats all you have to do.

I dont drive when im high, and I dont go to work high.
Im already a lazy bastard, and being stoned at work, just makes you even worse, and its no fun to have a fuzzy head, when you have to be quick on your feet.

But, when Im not anywhere important, or when I get home from work..I like to catch me a nice lil buzz with some freinds, and maybe watch a movie, or just chill out and relax.
Also, for some reason, I highly enjoy playing with my dog, when Im stoned.
Potheads+Golden Retreivers= true comedy.

Australia has two or three states that have decriminialised pot, i can have a plant of my own if i want.
Come over theres room, its a big country. Ill have a bong packed for you when you get off the plane

I'll have to pack quickly, the tide leaves in ten minutes!

Australia has two or three states that have decriminialised pot, i can have a plant of my own if i want.
Come over theres room, its a big country. Ill have a bong packed for you when you get off the plane


Traveling in a fried-out combie
On a hippie trail, head full of zombie
I met a strange lady, she made me nervous
She took me in and gave me breakfast
And she said,

"Do you come from a land down under?
Where women glow and men plunder?
Can't you hear, can't you hear the thunder?
You better run, you better take cover."

Traveling in a fried-out combie
On a hippie trail, head full of zombie
I met a strange lady, she made me nervous
She took me in and gave me breakfast
And she said,

"Do you come from a land down under?
Where women glow and men plunder?
Can't you hear, can't you hear the thunder?
You better run, you better take cover."
WOOOOTTT!!!!! now heres a (wo)man with taste

I think some of those poo-pooing pot smokers seem to be missing an important point. Some people like the occasional toke for recreational purposes, and others are full time "pot hounds" to the point where it interferes with the rest of their lives.


I'm not "poo pooing anyone". I just am saying don't do it around me. If so, I'll just leave. And I won't use it myself.

Who smokes? Who doesn't? I love the stuff!
smoked it happily every day for the last two years - pretty much all day every day for the last year. i'm talking academic years here cos i can't smoke much over the holidays here at home :(

went to Amsterdam a few weeks back and smoked the shit out of my lungs there :D

Yeah, well I have to excuse myself whenever he does it because the smell is just so repulsive. And then all that comes out of his mouth just doesn't make sense to me... he started last semester, and then his grades started to slip right at the time he started using weed.
the problem is when you're stoned you play great guitar, talk wonderful sense and are an all round lovely person. At least that's how it seems.

In fact only Hendrix could play stoned, you talk gibberish and you bore everyone who's not stoned.

I was a complete prick when I drank - everybodies friend. Now I don't do it anymore I realise how annoying I was and how much my friends put up with.

Some people live their lives perfectly well as an occassional smoker but I've an addictive personality (typical Sagitarian) and get carried away. So not for me thanks.

I say get rid of drinking and let us SMOKE!!!

If God dont make it, I dont take it ;)

I smoke - it probably has the best benefit to cost ratio for me personally - I get sick quite easily from alchohol and I really don't see the attraction in normal cigarettes. I also do it through a vaporiser most of the time to negate some of the bad effects of smoking weed.

I don't smoke regular cigs, I don't smoke pot, and I never will :p

I'm not "poo pooing anyone". I just am saying don't do it around me. If so, I'll just leave. And I won't use it myself.

I was totally the same way.. until I turned 30.. after lots of research on why pot was banned, and using herbs as meds for so many years.. I changed my mind, and when I dated someone who smoked and asked me if I did, I said no, but was thinking of giving it a try..

Later I married that person, on 4/20/01 at 4:20

I am not a cig smoker either..

I say get rid of drinking and let us SMOKE!!!

If God dont make it, I dont take it ;)
shyeah... i actually far prefer smoking a few spliffs to getting drunk any day

Well I drink mainly wine... you won't tear me away from that.. especially red wine.. and sometimes i do like beer too. I drink socially.. never get drunk.

"I tried it once but never inhaled." Slick Willie Clinton :eek:
Oh, quoting politicians! That's really out of touch!

that is realllllly the best poll i ever had, and my answer was the first
i'm used to, and i die smokin'

Smoked it a couple times. That was ok. I wouldn't buy it myself, though. I'm not that bothered. I do tend to cough a lot. :p

I used to smoke pot a lot when I was younger, but only ever in social situations. I think smoking on your own can be a sign that it's time to stop and smoking when other people with you aren't is usually anti-social. I would only ever smoke pot when in a group of people who are all participating!

After a few years without (due to funds being low and not knowing a reliable dealer) I recently went to a mate's house for a session and it was the best fun I've had in all the time I haven't been toking!

Bad horror films are great to watch stoned, music preference is Bob Dylan, The Doors or Velvet Underground.

I think pot is a more sociable recreational drug than alcohol by such a long way. Ask yourself, would you rather come across a bunch of drunken yobs looking for a fight, or a bunch of stoners looking for cookies? I know who I'd rather meet in a dark street at night.

Oh yeah

I smoke... right now. Though it's not weed but hash. I prefere that and skunk. If you really want to mess with your synapses, do a hash/skunk combo joint (here in Denmark, that's known as a wizard).

I would say that I'm a considerate somker. If it's not my home, I'd rather remove myself from the company to have a smoke if I know someone find it objectionable for some reason, rather than forcing them to leave due to my actions. If it's in my crib, you just have to accept that I light up :P

A friend stopped for a little bit and we where sitting around, he looks at me and says-"You know what? When you quit smoking you remember what it's like to be bored."

So true so true.


Btw. I'm listening to 16 Horsepower atm, that's nice when smoking as well.

I used to, but then I grew up. Unfortunately, it still managed to limit my career options.

I have serious anger management issues. I've stayed stoned pretty much since I left highschool, keeping myself mellow and medicated. My bong has saved thousands of lives. :)

But seriously, aside from my anger problem, I have a bad hip. No no. Bad doesn't sum it up. Fucking broken doesn't really do it justice either, but it's closer... Ankylosing Spondilytis. It's like the most wicked, excruciating arthritis you could possibly imagine, and multiply that shit by about 1000, then you'll have some vague notion of what I deal with on a daily basis. My Doc keeps me stocked in hydrocodone, but I dislike the itches, so I just get high instead, and I've found it works better than most heavy strength pain killers or muscle relaxers, and doesn't leave me foggy.

Despite a few tiny setbacks, such as failing a UA and getting fucking FIRED, my life is much richer for burning as often as I like. I manage to be a merry person ninety percent of the time, can carry on a fairly intelligent conversation on most any topic, and despite being slightly over weight, am utterly sexified.

I have serious anger management issues. I've stayed stoned pretty much since I left highschool, keeping myself mellow and medicated. My bong has saved thousands of lives. :)

But seriously, aside from my anger problem, I have a bad hip. No no. Bad doesn't sum it up. Fucking broken doesn't really do it justice either, but it's closer... Ankylosing Spondilytis. It's like the most wicked, excruciating arthritis you could possibly imagine, and multiply that shit by about 1000, then you'll have some vague notion of what I deal with on a daily basis. My Doc keeps me stocked in hydrocodone, but I dislike the itches, so I just get high instead, and I've found it works better than most heavy strength pain killers or muscle relaxers, and doesn't leave me foggy.

Despite a few tiny setbacks, such as failing a UA and getting fucking FIRED, my life is much richer for burning as often as I like. I manage to be a merry person ninety percent of the time, can carry on a fairly intelligent conversation on most any topic, and despite being slightly over weight, am utterly sexified.
oh yeah i remember that whole getting fired thing - so not fair :rolleyes:
and yay for medicianal marijuana!

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i do occasionally smoke it, but not too much. it doesn't help my already fleeting memory and mental capacity

Eichen loves his joo-wanna!!! *bubbling watery sounds*

(But hates authoritarian assholes who want to tell him he can't smoke in his own home)

Rich and fullfilling lives? I think you could be fine without it. In fact I think it is a very annoying thing. One of my friend does it, and I can never be around him when he does because it smells so foul.

I am a daily smoker of weed and I happen to live a very rich and fulfilling life myself. In fact, if it wasn't for the weed, I don't know exactly how rich and fulfilling my life would be. If it wasn't for marijuana, I would still suffer from chronic migraines.

I used to get migraines at least twice a month, classic and mense. After trying ever med out on the market (none worked without terrible side affects since I found out that I am allergic to anything that has been synthesised) my doctor recommended I try smoking weed at the time. I was wary at first since I was raised to be straight-edge and did not approve of weed smoking at the time. Now, 4 years later of being a daily smoker I have been migraine free. This has been a new lease on life for me.

Out of 52 weeks in a year, I used to spend half of them in bed becuase of migraines that lasted on avg of 5-7 days with pain so bad that I would be vomiting bile, total loss of balance, temporary blindness and hearing loss. The pain was so bad that not even morphine or 5mg of diloted(sp?, a drug that is 4 times more powerful than morphine) every hour would not relieve the pain. Marijuana has given me the freedom to live. I now also can take medications that I couldn't before because the weed negates the migraines they used to cause.

Above and beyond all this weed happens to be the only thing that can keep my ADHD in check as well. In fact, my bosses at work give me breaks in which they know I am smoking weed because they know how much more my concentration improves and my productivity goes up if I do.

Weed is not a bad thing. For many people it happens to be a natural catch -all remedy that *works*. The only people who become lazy when they are stoned are lazy people to begin with who use the drug as their pathetic excuse. I actually just worked 55 hours this past week, and I am considered to be one of the best employees by my boss. There is no laziness contributed from marijuana at all. If anything it allows me to become even more calm and contemplative, expecially when trying to figure a solution to a problem, or dealing with an irate customer.

You yourself may be fine without weed but, there are many people out there who's bodies cannot take the strains put on it by modern environment and society. Marijuana help us do that. It helps us to be a productive member of society. Please be glad that we are contributing, and not laying back and giving in to being a burden on others.

How can you not get into Cream??

Anyway, yeah I love smoking, usually weed. "Cos I can". :p Who cares if its illegal? Anyway, when you're high, you care about less things, or care about stupid things inplace of normal things, so that where the lazy concept comes from. Because you don't care about something means you're not going to do it, especially when you're high.

Music I listen to is! Weirdly enough dance music... No other time in my life, just high. You know the sort, the ones with the high pitched singing vioces, like Scooter etc. I think you can see where im getting to..

LOL I can barely stand Scooter, but it is hillarious.("how much is the fish!") In fact i'm a bit shocked to hear anyone mention it since i am used to blank looks when i say Scooter, or VNV nation, or Beborn Beton, and my love Rollergirl, Apoptygma Beserk. T.O.Y. (aka Evil's Toy), ::Wumpscut::, Assemblage 23, And One, Cut.Rate.Box. etc (sry i can go on and on, i love my music) I really like the underground euro techelektro dance scene and music, but of course here in america if its not top 40 no knows of it except for a rare few. It's a damn shame really.

I would if it became what it should be: legal.

I've not actually smoked any, though I've had it second-hand.

I'll definitely smoke some when I can.

smoked it happily every day for the last two years - pretty much all day every day for the last year.

How could you possibly afford that? Or get any university work done? Your brain must be fried!

Your brain must be fried!

Or baked...

What about the "No, I've never tried it, and never want to" option?

What about the "No, I've never tried it, and never want to" option?

Wouldn't the "No, I've never tried it" option work just as well?

I quit a few months ago...lasted til friday night when my mate went "I can't smoke all this...want a bit?" Afterwards I remembered why I quit...my throats not very happy with me atm....:(

I think I would fall under the category of "never tried it and never will." I like my brain cells, I like having the capacity to have reflexes that work faster than 5 minutes after the action occured, and I love not having all of my credibility being shot down by being a druggy :D


Edit: Oh! And I like not being a criminal :p

Eichen loves his joo-wanna!!! *bubbling watery sounds*

(But hates authoritarian assholes who want to tell him he can't smoke in his own home)



That's because your brain cells are all dead :p

Out of 54 weeks in a year, I used to spend half of them in bed becuase of migraines that lasted on avg of 5-7 days with pain so bad that I would be vomiting bile, total loss of balance, temporary blindness and hearing loss.
See, weed has many beneficial aspects, including giving you an extra 2 weeks in the year! :p [j/k]

I'm not what you'd call a regular smoker, but I enjoy a puff with friends now and again. There is absolutely no reason that dope smoking has to be a compulsive, anti-social or negative activity. As much as I love my booze, alcohol, in general, is a far more destructive substance, socially and physically...

to the troll: I won't mention any names but your initials are Neo Rogolia


Did you know that your brain cells are dying all the time and also new ones are forming? In fact every cell in your body lasts about a year and then dies only to be replaced by a new one. So that means no matter what you do you are losing brain cells. In your case I fear... nvrmnd.

Besides just read Zelda Hime's post above and see just how misinformed you are about what pot does to you. You are generalizing a whole group of people based on the actions of a few. Of course that happens to you too, and just how much do you like it? Wouldn't you wish to treat others as you would have them treat you?

to the troll: I won't mention any names but your initials are Neo Rogolia

LOL!

I remember one time at a friends party, he couldn't get any reefer, so he soaked some tea leaves in alcholic essence and then dried them out. When he smoked them, it gave him a headrush, but no other effect :D

Ice bongs are pretty smooth, but I'm told that inhaling the chilled air tends to give you chest infections and colds...

It's all about the vaprizor when it comes to smoothness as well as keeping unwanted stuff out of your lungs.


Vapor Brothers

I am a daily smoker of weed and I happen to live a very rich and fulfilling life myself. In fact, if it wasn't for the weed, I don't know exactly how rich and fulfilling my life would be. If it wasn't for marijuana, I would still suffer from chronic migraines.

There are plenty of legal medicines out there that are more effective then weed but seeing as you can't take it well... I'm not going to get into this, but my opinions have been made clear. Go ahead, and smoke it.. just don't do it around me. I made that clear to my friend.


Weed is not a bad thing. For many people it happens to be a natural catch -all remedy that *works*. The only people who become lazy when they are stoned are lazy people to begin with who use the drug as their pathetic excuse. I actually just worked 55 hours this past week, and I am considered to be one of the best employees by my boss. There is no laziness contributed from marijuana at all. If anything it allows me to become even more calm and contemplative, expecially when trying to figure a solution to a problem, or dealing with an irate customer.

I never said it was a bad thing. But for those who can take legal medicines, those are far more effective. Seeing as you can't, that's fine with me. I just appreciate if you keep it to yourself. That's all I ask.

You yourself may be fine without weed but, there are many people out there who's bodies cannot take the strains put on it by modern environment and society. Marijuana help us do that. It helps us to be a productive member of society. Please be glad that we are contributing, and not laying back and giving in to being a burden on others.

Marijuana helps people be productive? Now, I'm just going to agree to disagree on that one. Why have my friend's grades started to slip when he started using marijuana?

Marijuana helps people be productive? Now, I'm just going to agree to disagree on that one. Why have my friend's grades started to slip when he started using marijuana?
I would guess that like most people on this planet there is a complex set of reasons that add up to lower grades rather than a cartoonish 'single culpirit' that will be solved before O. G. Readmore wraps up the episode...

Unless it is legal where you live, it simply isnt worth it. You are closing doors by smoking pot. You cant even join the military if you have smoked more than a few times. Many jobs in the federal government are out of bounds for you because you smoked. A career in politics or civil service could easily be derailed by the discovery that you were once a pot smoker. Then there are the immediate risks. No matter how many precautions you take, you are always at risk of being caught and arrested, which can easily ruin your record and make your disqualification from many jobs and lots of volunteer organizations more definite.

If it were legal, I wouldnt have anything against people who smoke responsibly, but it isnt legal and those people are closing lots of doors for their future. They might say that none of those things interest them right now, but people change and if it interests them in the future but they already ruined that possibility in the past, they will regret having done it. Also, if they find themselves in jail for something as stupid as smoking a bowl, they will regret it too.

Im all for the legalization movement, I dont think it needs to be illegal. But I think people who do it knowing it is illegal are either making an unwise decision or are simply unaware of all the implications.

I would guess that like most people on this planet there is a complex set of reasons that add up to lower grades rather than a cartoonish 'single culpirit' that will be solved before O. G. Readmore wraps up the episode...

Well, considering he smokes weed often instead of doing class work.. well that's an issue.

Anyways, go ahead and smoke it. I'm not stopping you.. like I didn't stop him. It is his own personal decision. That's where I'm libertarian. I may not personally agree with it (against my own ethics), but I don't push that on anyone else.

Well, considering he smokes weed often instead of doing class work.. well that's an issue.

Anyways, go ahead and smoke it. I'm not stopping you.. like I didn't stop him. It is his own personal decision. That's where I'm libertarian. I may not personally agree with it (against my own ethics), but I don't push that on anyone else.

Could it be that he smokes weed to reduce the pressure cause by the same thing that is affecting his schoolwork?

I smoked heavily until the voices came.... it's strictly tea and cakes with the vicar these days :(

Well, considering he smokes weed often instead of doing class work.. well that's an issue.

Anyways, go ahead and smoke it. I'm not stopping you.. like I didn't stop him. It is his own personal decision. That's where I'm libertarian. I may not personally agree with it (against my own ethics), but I don't push that on anyone else.
Sure makin' a lotta posts for someone who doesn't care.

It's still too simplistic to say he's staying home because of the weed. He could just as easily be going to Taco Bell instead of going to class. Weed is the activity not the cause.

Unless, again, your friend is a story told by OG Readmore...

Marijuana helps people be productive? Now, I'm just going to agree to disagree on that one. Why have my friend's grades started to slip when he started using marijuana?
That's just anecdotal evidence. Weed has relaxing effects to ward off the ill-effects of stress.

Since I started doing it my grades shot upwards. Stress simply vanshed, my concentration became intense - in fact, because boredom disappeared I once did two essays in six hours, getting a B on one and an A on the other. Plus writing some of the best prose my teachers have ever read. Plus I've stopped drinking alcohol entirely and I've lost weight, while most of my self esteem issues became somehow irrelevant. Bye bye teen angst.

And once I started tripping out... whoa. Life simply cannot get any better.

Sure makin' a lotta posts for someone who doesn't care.

You are right. I'll withdraw from this thread before more people misinterpret what I'm saying (and they already have).

A career in politics or civil service could easily be derailed by the discovery that you were once a pot smoker.
well first off laws against weed are more harsh in the US than in the UK or especially the rest of europe... i mean in the uk its class C meaning it'll get confiscated and a warning, and you only get arrested for dealing or having loads on you. the rest of europe is even better! everyone knows about holland, but spain has joined in by decriminalising the herb. i hear germany might follow soon...


but as for that politics stuff... if i were to enter politics you could be sure i'd campaign tirelessly to get the stuff legalised! (as well as my many other political concerns of course ;))



How could you possibly afford that? Or get any university work done? Your brain must be fried!
its what student loans are for! besides i know some good people to know... ;)
and no, i didn't do any work :P


Or baked...
indeedy ;)

well first off laws against weed are more harsh in the US than in the UK or especially the rest of europe... i mean in the uk its class C meaning it'll get confiscated and a warning, and you only get arrested for dealing or having loads on you. the rest of europe is even better! everyone knows about holland, but spain has joined in by decriminalising the herb. i hear germany might follow soon...
:D

From http://www.nida.nih.gov/Infofacts/marijuana.html


Effects on the Brain

Scientists have learned a great deal about how THC acts in the brain to produce its many effects. When someone smokes marijuana, THC rapidly passes from the lungs into the bloodstream, which carries the chemical to organs throughout the body, including the brain.

In the brain, THC connects to specific sites called cannabinoid receptors on nerve cells and influences the activity of those cells. Some brain areas have many cannabinoid receptors; others have few or none. Many cannabinoid receptors are found in the parts of the brain that influence pleasure, memory, thought, concentration, sensory and time perception, and coordinated movement(5).

The short-term effects of marijuana can include problems with memory and learning; distorted perception; difficulty in thinking and problem solving; loss of coordination; and increased heart rate. Research findings for long-term marijuana use indicate some changes in the brain similar to those seen after long-term use of other major drugs of abuse. For example, cannabinoid (THC or synthetic forms of THC) withdrawal in chronically exposed animals leads to an increase in the activation of the stress-response system(6) and changes in the activity of nerve cells containing dopamine(7). Dopamine neurons are involved in the regulation of motivation and reward, and are directly or indirectly affected by all drugs of abuse.


Effects on the Heart

One study has indicated that a user’s risk of heart attack more than quadruples in the first hour after smoking marijuana(8). The researchers suggest that such an effect might occur from marijuana’s effects on blood pressure and heart rate and reduced oxygen-carrying capacity of blood.


Effects on the Lungs

A study of 450 individuals found that people who smoke marijuana frequently but do not smoke tobacco have more health problems and miss more days of work than nonsmokers(9). Many of the extra sick days among the marijuana smokers in the study were for respiratory illnesses.

Even infrequent use can cause burning and stinging of the mouth and throat, often accompanied by a heavy cough. Someone who smokes marijuana regularly may have many of the same respiratory problems that tobacco smokers do, such as daily cough and phlegm production, more frequent acute chest illness, a heightened risk of lung infections, and a greater tendency to obstructed airways(10). Smoking marijuana increases the likelihood of developing cancer of the head or neck, and the more marijuana smoked the greater the increase(11). A study comparing 173 cancer patients and 176 healthy individuals produced strong evidence that marijuana smoking doubled or tripled the risk of these cancers.

Marijuana use also has the potential to promote cancer of the lungs and other parts of the respiratory tract because it contains irritants and carcinogens(12, 13). In fact, marijuana smoke contains 50 to 70 percent more carcinogenic hydrocarbons than does tobacco smoke(14). It also produces high levels of an enzyme that converts certain hydrocarbons into their carcinogenic form—levels that may accelerate the changes that ultimately produce malignant cells(15). Marijuana users usually inhale more deeply and hold their breath longer than tobacco smokers do, which increases the lungs’ exposure to carcinogenic smoke. These facts suggest that, puff for puff, smoking marijuana may increase the risk of cancer more than smoking tobacco.


Other Health Effects

Some of marijuana’s adverse health effects may occur because THC impairs the immune system’s ability to fight off infectious diseases and cancer. In laboratory experiments that exposed animal and human cells to THC or other marijuana ingredients, the normal disease-preventing reactions of many of the key types of immune cells were inhibited(16). In other studies, mice exposed to THC or related substances were more likely than unexposed mice to develop bacterial infections and tumors(17, 18).


Effects of Heavy Marijuana Use on Learning and Social Behavior

Depression(19), anxiety(20), and personality disturbances(21) have been associated with marijuana use. Research clearly demonstrates that marijuana has potential to cause problems in daily life or make a person’s existing problems worse. Because marijuana compromises the ability to learn and remember information, the more a person uses marijuana the more he or she is likely to fall behind in accumulating intellectual, job, or social skills. Moreover, research has shown that marijuana’s adverse impact on memory and learning can last for days or weeks after the acute effects of the drug wear off(22, 23).

Students who smoke marijuana get lower grades and are less likely to graduate from high school, compared with their non-smoking peers(24, 25, 26, 27). A study of 129 college students found that, for heavy users of marijuana (those who smoked the drug at least 27 of the preceding 30 days), critical skills related to attention, memory, and learning were significantly impaired even after they had not used the drug for at least 24 hours(28). The heavy marijuana users in the study had more trouble sustaining and shifting their attention and in registering, organizing, and using information than did the study participants who had used marijuana no more than 3 of the previous 30 days. As a result, someone who smokes marijuana every day may be functioning at a reduced intellectual level all of the time.

More recently, the same researchers showed that the ability of a group of long-term heavy marijuana users to recall words from a list remained impaired for a week after quitting, but returned to normal within 4 weeks(29). Thus, it is possible that some cognitive abilities may be restored in individuals who quit smoking marijuana, even after long-term heavy use.

Workers who smoke marijuana are more likely than their coworkers to have problems on the job. Several studies associate workers’ marijuana smoking with increased absences, tardiness, accidents, workers’ compensation claims, and job turnover. A study of municipal workers found that those who used marijuana on or off the job reported more “withdrawal behaviors”—such as leaving work without permission, daydreaming, spending work time on personal matters, and shirking tasks—that adversely affect productivity and morale(30). In another study, marijuana users reported that use of the drug impaired several important measures of life achievement including cognitive abilities, career status, social life, and physical and mental health(31).


Effects on Pregnancy

Research has shown that babies born to women who used marijuana during their pregnancies display altered responses to visual stimuli, increased tremulousness, and a high-pitched cry, which may indicate neurological problems in development(32). During infancy and preschool years, marijuana-exposed children have been observed to have more behavioral problems than unexposed children and poorer performance on tasks of visual perception, language comprehension, sustained attention, and memory(33, 34). In school, these children are more likely to exhibit deficits in decision-making skills, memory, and the ability to remain attentive(35, 36, 37).


Addictive Potential

Long-term marijuana use can lead to addiction for some people; that is, they use the drug compulsively even though it interferes with family, school, work, and recreational activities. Drug craving and withdrawal symptoms can make it hard for long-term marijuana smokers to stop using the drug. People trying to quit report irritability, sleeplessness, and anxiety(38). They also display increased aggression on psychological tests, peaking approximately one week after the last use of the drug(39).

Who smokes? Who doesn't? I love the stuff!

never tried it and i don't want to! ever!

I tried it once on an exchange trip to Berlin but I cant remember what it was like since I was already pretty hammered on vodka at the time. So much so that i woke up in some strange persons house the next morning and couldnt find my way home for 5 hours

Well, I suppose it's not so much that it wasn't enjoyable, it's just that I didn't see it as a valuable way to spend my time. I've got better things to do, like working and getting an education.
I've been smoking for years and somehow managed to go to law school on a full scholarship.

\ A career in politics or civil service could easily be derailed by the discovery that you were once a pot smoker.

I don't really think that this is true anymore. Our last two presidents have been well known drug users.

:D
damn yous in holland! or paradise on earth as i call it :p

my friend has been smoking pot or weed as we call it here, for a year or so. (I say smoking although he thinks spliffs are rank and uses a bong) I tried it once from his bong at a party once and didnt feel any different. My friend says this could be because I didnt inhale enough or properly, either way I don't feel like I've experianced it enough to have much of an opinion, I'll try it again when the opertunity arises and make a decision then

How alcohol can be legal but pot criminalized is beyond me, alcohol isn't even worth drinking compared to smoking pot if you ask me.

Never tried it. Don't really care to. Can't stand the smell of it and have no desire to get high. I also don't drink alcohol and have never picked up a cigarette.

How alcohol can be legal but pot criminalized is beyond me, alcohol isn't even worth drinking compared to smoking pot if you ask me.



We need to reinstate prohibition! *hides*

From http://www.nida.nih.gov/Infofacts/marijuana.html

<snip - reefer madness>


Now, lets see some facts on figures on tobacco and alcohol, two legal drugs...

Now, lets see some facts on figures on tobacco and alcohol, two legal drugs...



I know, such hypocrisy. I advocate the illegalization of both. *waits for the libs to start calling her an authoritarian witch*

Marijuana helps people be productive? Now, I'm just going to agree to disagree on that one. Why have my friend's grades started to slip when he started using marijuana?
I would have thought you, of all people, would know better to generalize a whole group because of one example...

I would have thought you, of all people, would know better to generalize a whole group because of one example...



Statistics show that it's not generalization. Marijuana dulls the mind in most cases (most cases, we occasionally have the anomaly where someone manages to get decent grades while smoking pot all day every day), and is not conducive to academics.

Here's the thing people. Not all pot smokers are going to be doing it everyday. I know that I only do it the occasional weekend just to rid some stress and have a fun experience.

However, a lot of people inisist on using the extreme pot smokers who do not use marijuana in moderation as there test group! Of course a higher percentage of the every-day smoker is going to be more prone to cancer, laziness, etc. If you don't do something in moderation you're going to cause problems (look at alcohol).

No, the answer isn't to make alcohol, cigarettes, and weed illegal, as that is taking away certain civil liberties, but make it legal and educate people on the effects of over-using these things.

Yet I have firends who are "pot-smokers" (among other drugs, such as ecstacy and speed) who are engineers, veterinarians, accountants and other "respected" jobs...like I said, all in moderation. You have to be "abusing" marijauana to have any severe effects...

...besides which, it all really depends on what research you quote, doesn't it? Let's face it, most researchers have an agenda, one way or the other.

http://www.changetheclimate.org/facts/#1

Myth #1: Marijuana use has been scientifically proven to be really harmful.

* Fact #1 In 1972, after reviewing the scientific evidence, the National Commission on Marijuana and Drug Abuse concluded that while marijuana is not entirely safe, its dangers had been grossly overstated.

* Fact #2 In 1995, based on thirty years of scientific research, editors of the British journal Lancet (the British equivalent of New England Journal of Medicine) concluded that "the smoking of cannabis, even long term, is not harmful to health."

Myth #6: Marijuana impairs memory and cognition.

* Fact #1 Marijuana produces immediate, temporary changes in thoughts, perceptions, and information processing. The cognitive process most clearly affected by marijuana is short-term memory. In laboratory studies, subjects under the influence of marijuana have no trouble remembering things they learned previously. However, they display diminished capacity to learn and recall new information. This diminishment only lasts for the duration of intoxication.

I've done it before. I don't anymore. I have better things to do than to waste my money on something my body doesn't need.

Although I am currently a little too busy to provide exact links to the studies I'm about to talk about, I'll try my best to find them if asked...

In many studies it was found that even heavy users of marijuana were found to be free of any of the psychological effects of marijuana within 2-4 weeks. So that means within at most a month, you're mind is back up to standard operation efficiency, and this is from people who abuse the drug all the time!

I'd also like to point out that the AMA (The American Medical Association) has also come out in favour of medical marijuana, so I'll take my chances with them and stick to my guns about marijuana being fine in MODERATION!

I'd also like to point out that the AMA (The American Medical Association) has also come out in favour of medical marijuana, so I'll take my chances with them and stick to my guns about marijuana being fine in MODERATION!
Hear hear! :D

I'd also like to point out that the AMA (The American Medical Association) has also come out in favour of medical marijuana, so I'll take my chances with them and stick to my guns about marijuana being fine in MODERATION!

Yup, I'd have to agree. I find the minimum dosage of an eighth a week works just fine. And cheaper than my old meds.

Pot is a terrible thing. If you smoke pot you should go to a rehab center and quit. It destroys your brain. It is also illegal. I have never smoked pot, and i NEVER will.


Pot is bad

Pot is a terrible thing. If you smoke pot you should go to a rehab center and quit. It destroys your brain. It is also illegal. I have never smoked pot, and i NEVER will.


Pot is bad
you don't need to go to a rehab center if you want to stop smoking weed. you.... just stop and there's no problems or withdrawal, addiction, or anything.

pfft :rolleyes:

i've never smoked so i wouldn't know if there was withdrawl. if there isn't withdrwl just quit then. pot is bad.

Pot is a terrible thing. If you smoke pot you should go to a rehab center and quit. It destroys your brain. It is also illegal. I have never smoked pot, and i NEVER will.


Pot is bad
And it makes you play jazz on pianos all crazy and bug eyed and makes you laugh maniacly in and out of focus and hang out with fast talkin' types in thier convertables-and it will turn your best girl against ya...

I did pretty often until about 25 years ago; I was just too busy... but, what goes around comes around...

And it makes you play jazz on pianos all crazy and bug eyed and makes you laugh maniacly in and out of focus and hang out with fast talkin' types in thier convertables-and it will turn your best girl against ya...
and you'll try to open bottles by smashing them against walls and end up in hospital cos it turns you into a moron!

I still don't get why people would want to breath in smoke? Don't they tell you to crawl under smoke in a burning house? Besides, addictions blow money. (By the way, never used it :) ).

And it makes you play jazz on pianos all crazy and bug eyed and makes you laugh maniacly in and out of focus and hang out with fast talkin' types in thier convertables-and it will turn your best girl against ya...

And it rots ur teeth (plus!!!!!!!).

I still don't get why people would want to breath in smoke? Don't they tell you to crawl under smoke in a burning house? Besides, addictions blow money. (By the way, never used it :) ).
If the house was made of pot, or the timber contained large doses of THC perhaps. At the very least I would stand down wind (and out of the Firefighters way, they got a job to do)

Oh come guys, i'm damn stoned right now: it rocks.
I don't even do this very often, so its special like, erm, going for drink with your mates down the pub. It's sociable and relaxing, there are far fewer fights than with alcohol. All in all, infrequent use can be amazing and fun. :D

If the house was made of pot, or the timber contained large doses of THC perhaps. At the very least I would stand down wind (and out of the Firefighters way, they got a job to do)
if my house had large doses of THC in the walls i'd start the fuckin fire myself :P
nice and controlled, like... bits of crumbled wall rolled in some wallpaper sorts of thing :D

...play jazz on pianos all crazy...



at least I get your reference...

at least I get your reference...
Somebody had to.

reefer madness?

Pot is a terrible thing. If you smoke pot you should go to a rehab center and quit. It destroys your brain. It is also illegal. I have never smoked pot, and i NEVER will.


Pot is bad
Maybe read some of the existing thread before you put your foot firmly into your mouth?

LOL I can barely stand Scooter, but it is hillarious.("how much is the fish!") In fact i'm a bit shocked to hear anyone mention it since i am used to blank looks when i say Scooter, or VNV nation, or Beborn Beton, and my love Rollergirl, Apoptygma Beserk. T.O.Y. (aka Evil's Toy), ::Wumpscut::, Assemblage 23, And One, Cut.Rate.Box. etc (sry i can go on and on, i love my music) I really like the underground euro techelektro dance scene and music, but of course here in america if its not top 40 no knows of it except for a rare few. It's a damn shame really.


You know Goteki? I booked them for a concert when they were still Sneaky Bat Machine. I have also booked a concert with Attrition and was close to closing a deal with Diary of Dreams.

Do you know L'Âme Immortelle, Wolfsheim, Deathboy, Katscan and Neuroticfish?


btw. HYPER HYPER!!! :D

Yeah, it destroys your brain - Thats why my grades and happiness shot up when I started smoking it. I was also a huge nerd that none liked until I started smokign and became really happy and was able to see much more humor in life. I spread laughter to many. :)

I also could see things in different ways as opposed to one rigid way I was taught to think. Although it may not help everyone in teh same way, that is no excuse to ban it. The only ones pot has a detrimental effect on are the ones who abuse it by using it too often. Same will go for caffine, sugar, or even meat. Do you want to ban all these things because people abuse the use of these items?

I also abused pot after a while but that is because of the environment I was raised in. My grandparents (who raised me for a few years) we major alcoholics and were also addicted to cigarettes and gambling. I found myself having an addictive personality with things I enjoyed too. I smoked ciggs for many years (a pack and a half a day). I was able to overcome all of that though. I quit smoking ciggs 6 years ago. I only smoke pot when I have it and only buy small amount so I dont give myself the chance to abuse it.

It is so unhealthy - Thats why it has so many medical uses - anyone who wants to deny powerful natural medicine (often times the only medicine that will help someone) to people are pure evil.

nope-don't smoke hashish or any other smokeable substances
just don't feel like it...tried smoking once, and it burned my throat and hurt...so I never got into it

You know Goteki? I booked them for a concert when they were still Sneaky Bat Machine. I have also booked a concert with Attrition and was close to closing a deal with Diary of Dreams.

Do you know L'Âme Immortelle, Wolfsheim, Deathboy, Katscan and Neuroticfish?


btw. HYPER HYPER!!! :D

No I've never heard of goteki or Deathboy. But L'Ame Immortelle, Neuroticfish and Wolfsheim I've heard of and love. "once in a Lifetime" is one of my faves from Wolfsheim. I'm afraid my knowledge of the music is lagging even more so as of late since the only store in Michigan that used to carry or be able to order these cds closed about a year ago (with my 450 count cd collection being stolen out of my car during transportation to a party one night soon after :(). So I've been unfortunately out of the loop.

Have you heard of Icon of Coil or Echo Image(can't remember if they're the ones who did the fantasia remix of "the neverending story" theme).
That has to be one of my favourite versions of that song. Another fave is Covenant (and Kovenant ;)) as well as Deine Lakaien. WEEEEE!!!

:::listening to Project Pitchfork: Time Killer (version And One):::::

Yeah, it destroys your brain - Thats why my grades and happiness shot up when I started smoking it. I was also a huge nerd that none liked until I started smokign and became really happy and was able to see much more humor in life. I spread laughter to many. :)

I also could see things in different ways as opposed to one rigid way I was taught to think. Although it may not help everyone in teh same way, that is no excuse to ban it. The only ones pot has a detrimental effect on are the ones who abuse it by using it too often. Same will go for caffine, sugar, or even meat. Do you want to ban all these things because people abuse the use of these items?

I also abused pot after a while but that is because of the environment I was raised in. My grandparents (who raised me for a few years) we major alcoholics and were also addicted to cigarettes and gambling. I found myself having an addictive personality with things I enjoyed too. I smoked ciggs for many years (a pack and a half a day). I was able to overcome all of that though. I quit smoking ciggs 6 years ago. I only smoke pot when I have it and only buy small amount so I dont give myself the chance to abuse it.

It is so unhealthy - Thats why it has so many medical uses - anyone who wants to deny powerful natural medicine (often times the only medicine that will help someone) to people are pure evil.
*claps* well said :)


seems to me that, generally, the people who are neutral in the matter tend to be the ones who have tried and didn't like it. the ones who are dead against pot seem to be the ones who are most uninformed about its benefits and risks... which is NO excuse for harbouring such a strong opinion on the issue when there is so much information out there about the stuff.

the long of the short of it is that smoking it has risks. everything does like you say (and in moderation these risks are minimised). smoking anything causes lung problems, and it is a carcinogen, meaning it causes cancer. however compared to tobacco, gram for gram it is worse, but you certainly don't smoke it gram for gram (or at least here in europe where we have spliffs with weed _and_ backy we don't).

if you have mental health problems it can cause problems here, but thats a relatively small percentage of users, and one spliff isn't going to make you go crazy.

it does cause short term memory loss, but only while high and for the next few hours (depending on how high you get of course :P ). this problem goes away after stopping smoking - unfortunatley the lung problems associated with smoking do not. (hence, are all these people who are for the banning of this great herb also for the banning of cigarettes and tobacco?).

it is NOT ADDICTIVE in any physiological sense, but some heavy users (those who smoke every day - which is relatively few people) can develop a psychiological dependancy. however a dependancy is NOT an addiction as the habbit, though perhaps hard to do so, can be broken without withdrawal, going 'cold turkey' or any other BS. if you want to stop smoking weed you do just that and stop, no problems. the dependancy relates to your everyday mindset when smoking the stuff becomes habitual and part of daily routine, and thats all.

the effects are MILD compared to many, many other drugs out there and won't send you batshit crazy, no matter how much you smoke. the only dangerous thing you can do is smoke and try and do things like drive or operate heavy machinery - so treat it the same way you might beer (the two go together pretty well if you ask me anyway :D) and you'll be fine. the reason for this is that its quite easy to get distracted when stoned, and your reaction times are slowed, just like what you get from beer... which is legal and is highly addictive


and, yes, there are many different sources and research groups that will have different biases, so here's something published by the govt in the UK


http://www.talktofrank.com/azofdrugs/C/Cannabis.aspx

http://www.knowcannabis.org.uk/cannabis1.htm

http://www.drugscope.org.uk/druginfo/drugsearch/ds_results.asp?file=\wip\11\1\1\cannabis.html



however, dispite my pro-cannabis stance, i think i'm going to give up smoking for good soon - or at least smoke occasionally and not every day



edit: lol take the test at the second of those links (http://www.knowcannabis.org.uk/quiz.asp)... i got "23: Serious risk. Your drug use is getting out of hand" :p :p

I have smoked the stuff, but not very often. I can't say if I've given up, because I haven't smoked it in a while but I might again. Who knows. I have nothing against people who smoke up.

Being a pizza delivery guy I know a bit about the demographics of people who smoke up. Pizza is a popular food for people with the munchies :D

edit: lol take the test at the second of those links (http://www.knowcannabis.org.uk/quiz.asp)... i got "23: Serious risk. Your drug use is getting out of hand" :p :p


I'm taking it atm.

4. When you smoke cannabis, how often do you light up a second joint to get extra stoned?



I usually do spots :confused:

Results
Your score is: 6
Score ranges:
0-5: No added risk, although taking drugs always carries risks.
6-15: Definite risk. You're taking too many chances. Try to reduce the risks of your drug use.
16-36: Serious risk. Your drug use is getting out of hand.


So we know that test is bullshit then.

I'm taking it atm.

4. When you smoke cannabis, how often do you light up a second joint to get extra stoned?



I usually do spots :confused:
yeah... who the hell just ever smokes one joint? :confused:


Being a pizza delivery guy I know a bit about the demographics of people who smoke up. Pizza is a popular food for people with the munchies :D
lol too true :P


edit:

You're taking too many chances
pfft yeah right :rolleyes:
my test would have said something more like "6?? you need to get mashed more often dude!" :p ;)

of course its BS... it said i have a drug problem :p

I've never smoked it, or anything… don't particularly want to either. Even if I did, it's illegal in my country (UK). I'm not really interested in any drugs.

yeah... who the hell just ever smokes one joint? :confused:


lol too true :P


edit:


pfft yeah right :rolleyes:
my test would have said something more like "6?? you need to get mashed more often dude!" :p ;)

of course its BS... it said i have a drug problem :p

I scored an 8. LOL!

I'd have to agree that this test does have quite a bit of fluff to it. I'm a daily medicinal smoker, of course I smoke alone! (duh!) But seriously, I was also LMAO becuase it takes me like 3 days to smoke a whole joint by myself. I know I'm unusual in this regard, my friends make fun of me because I seem to develop no tolerance to weed and are for the most part a 2-hit wonder. (yup that's all I need in one shot, maybe 3 if I really want a heavy buzz).

I find it strange that weed seems to be the only thing that my body doesn't develop a tolerance to, unlike alcohol and painkillers which I have developed ungodly tolerances to. When I was 14, I had built a tolerance to codeine so much that I could take *3* Empirin 4s (yes at once) and still stay awake with no problems, still be coherent, and still feel pain. I am glad to have found something that works that doesn't require me taking more and more of it to work after time goes by.

Never tried it, never want to try it.

I scored an 8. LOL!

I'd have to agree that this test does have quite a bit of fluff to it. I'm a daily medicinal smoker, of course I smoke alone! (duh!) But seriously, I was also LMAO becuase it takes me like 3 days to smoke a whole joint by myself. I know I'm unusual in this regard, my friends make fun of me because I seem to develop no tolerance to weed and are for the most part a 2-hit wonder. (yup that's all I need in one shot, maybe 3 if I really want a heavy buzz).

I find it strange that weed seems to be the only thing that my body doesn't develop a tolerance to, unlike alcohol and painkillers which I have developed ungodly tolerances to. When I was 14, I had built a tolerance to codeine so much that I could take *3* Empirin 4s (yes at once) and still stay awake with no problems, still be coherent, and still feel pain. I am glad to have found something that works that doesn't require me taking more and more of it to work after time goes by.
brilliant! another notch in the wall for medicinal marijuana! :) :)

I feel a little strange posting here since I don't currently smoke pot, however, I think it's nice to get a range of opinions on things. So here goes: I've smoked pot a handful of times when I was younger. I have to say it didn't do much for me, and I didn't like the coughing and burning in my throat. I can think of more pleasant ways to get relaxed.

I do think it should be legalized. I am all for medical use...in fact, a good friend was encouraging me to smoke a little bit while I was pregnant because I had a pretty bad case of hyperemesis gravida - in english that means I couldn't stop vomiting and I was dropping weight so fast I was in danger of going into kidney failure. While I didn't take her up on her offer to get me some, I think it would have been nice if it was legal. Maybe someone could have isolated the chemical in it that kills nausea and I wouldn't have had to have a catheter put into my chest for eight months. :(

I feel a little strange posting here since I don't currently smoke pot, however, I think it's nice to get a range of opinions on things. So here goes: I've smoked pot a handful of times when I was younger. I have to say it didn't do much for me, and I didn't like the coughing and burning in my throat. I can think of more pleasant ways to get relaxed.

I do think it should be legalized. I am all for medical use...in fact, a good friend was encouraging me to smoke a little bit while I was pregnant because I had a pretty bad case of hyperemesis gravida - in english that means I couldn't stop vomiting and I was dropping weight so fast I was in danger of going into kidney failure. While I didn't take her up on her offer to get me some, I think it would have been nice if it was legal. Maybe someone could have isolated the chemical in it that kills nausea and I wouldn't have had to have a catheter put into my chest for eight months. :(Cast your vote for the Green Party in my Election Time thread then! :D

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