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I have about 100ml of hydrochloric acid and a few mg of sodium acetate.

1. Besides glass, what can safely hold it?
2. What should I do with it(other than throw it out)?

Mix them.

what concentration is the acid as 100ml is meaningless to a scientist

also how much sodium acetate

You're asking NS Generalites what to do with dangerous chemicals? I'm assuming you have a deathwish.

I think plastic'll hold 'em. But if that doesn't work, feel free to tell us what happens.

Hmm...You have any ant problems? :p

don't put hydrochloric acid (especially pure hydrochloric acid) in anything that is not very unreactive

this acid will eat through plastic very quickly

gold, platinum containers would work.......

any thing that is unreactive

not silver (that reacts with stuff not sure what would happen never seen it but I've used silver compounds so it disolves)

oh dear... What concentration in Molar or Normal is it?

Glass is really, really the safest thing you can leave it in. Unless you want to dilute it down and put it in plastic.

Really.... you shouldn't have something that is too concentrated to go in plastic. If you do and you don't know what to do with it... :headbang:

don't put hydrochloric acid (especially pure hydrochloric acid) in anything that is not very unreactive

this acid will eat through plastic very quickly

gold, platinum containers would work.......

any thing that is unreactive

not silver (that reacts with stuff not sure what would happen never seen it but I've used silver compounds so it disolves)
Hey, I was wrong. And this is why I shouldn't play with toxic chemicals.

I believe a glass jar should be able to contain it. But what is the molarity of the solution? That is the only way to measure the concentration of the acid in the solution, and will determine just how acidic it is.

For the acid, anything not a metal or carbonate.

Safely discard them. You may be safe with them, but someone else could get hurt. At a minimum label them correctly.

a tempret plastic works as well if the concentration is made 10% 80% 10%

well...if it was me, I'd get a hold of a large chunk of magnesium, and throw it in...How could it hurt?

and...if you light the magnesium on fire, it would look pretty freaken sweet.

If you feel like murdering your parents, pour it onto your toilet bowl before one of them cleans it with bleach. You'll get Chlorine gas given off. Bleach will have your Cl+ and the hydrochloric provides the Cl-.

Will you believe, my A-Level Chemistry gave me the idea?

And for fuck's sake don't just try it out to see if I'm lying.

It's all fun and games until somebody puts an eye out. Get rid of it.

http://www.chem.tamu.edu/class/majors/msdsfiles/msdshcl.htm

I have about 100ml of hydrochloric acid and a few mg of sodium acetate.

1. Besides glass, what can safely hold it?
2. What should I do with it(other than throw it out)?

Dilute it with water and put it in tupperware.
BTW, I failed chem.

If you feel like murdering your parents, pour it onto your toilet bowl before one of them cleans it with bleach. You'll get Chlorine gas given off. Bleach will have your Cl+ and the hydrochloric provides the Cl-.

Will you believe, my A-Level Chemistry gave me the idea?

And for fuck's sake don't just try it out to see if I'm lying.
LOL..see what I mean? We're a messed up lot, we Generalites. All these debates turn us into vicious killers/potential killers. Except Lunatic Goofballs, since he has tacos.

Actually, I was this devious before I discovered NS.

I don't know anything about it except how I made it. Vinegar and salt. I'll probably dump it on a metal object somewhere.

haha - acid + sodium...what a combination

i'm going to mention this to my A-Level chemistry teacher and ask her what would happen! brilliant!

If you feel like murdering your parents, pour it onto your toilet bowl before one of them cleans it with bleach. You'll get Chlorine gas given off. Bleach will have your Cl+ and the hydrochloric provides the Cl-.

Will you believe, my A-Level Chemistry gave me the idea?

And for fuck's sake don't just try it out to see if I'm lying.
That happened in one of my chemistry teachers schools. A cleaner used bleach and limescale remover in quick succession. Whole building was evacuated. And I thing the cleaner died. :/

I have about 100ml of hydrochloric acid and a few mg of sodium acetate.

1. Besides glass, what can safely hold it?
2. What should I do with it(other than throw it out)?

Since HCL is stomach acid, you could store it safely in your tummy. Bottoms up!

I almost flunked chemistry in HS in 1959 or 1960, so my advice would be to take them both and pour them in the toilet and flush. As an alternative, just pour them in the garden. What the hell one must experiment, at least once. :D

If you mixed hydrochloric acid and sodium acetate, wouldn't you get table salt and vinegar?

If you mixed hydrochloric acid and sodium acetate, wouldn't you get table salt and vinegar?
well, tablesalt, but i am not sure about vinegar... it's pretty rare that you can mix an acid and a base together to get a salt and an acid

It's all fun and games until somebody puts an eye out.
That's when it becomes fecking hilarious


The other night i tried to pay someone $20 to drink a big flask of liquid nitrogen... naturally, they didn't :P

Ok, back to the topic, I would guess that the safest thing to store in wold be glass, but some ceramics may also hold the acid, as well as some plastics... at my school we use acid from little plastic bottles so it can't dissolve it that quickly...

Put holes in stuff! (or store it in a glass container)

chuck it on a car or a bus stop

Watsit, HCl (H+, CL-), CH3COONa (CH3COO-, Na+)?


Salt and CH3COOH (Vinegar, acetic acid) no? Well, might not be that, but NaCl for sure (HCl easily dissasociates in solution), and that leaves an H+ ion and the CH3-COO-, which forms a carboxyl group, right?

This was for research purposes also. I'll probably make a huge jar of it soon. My friend once gelatinized it somehow and well I don't know what he did with it. with my larger bit, I'll probably create mischief or sell it to someone.

I need a better container though, the metal cap is getting corroded.

I don't know if anyone has asked this, but how concentrated is the HCl? If it's 95% water, pour it down the sink. I doubt you have pure HCl. If so, dilute it yourself in a few empty two-liter bottles. Should be fine.

PS: I'm not sure how to dispose of the sodium acetate, but if it reacts like you'd think it would you're just going to get salt and vinegar, so you can pour the vinegar down the sink and throw the salt in the trash.

Do NOT dilute it yourself! Talk to your Chemistry teacher.

I do not remember which way was which, but either adding water to acid, or adding acid to water, is a good way to loose your face.

Don't take peoples' word for it here. Talk to someone YOU know knows what they are doing.

That said, I leave you with a quote.

"Johnny was a chemist, Johnny is no more. What Johnny thought was H2O was H2SO4."
-UNKNOWN

Do NOT dilute it yourself! Talk to your Chemistry teacher.

I do not remember which way was which, but either adding water to acid, or adding acid to water, is a good way to loose your face.

Don't take peoples' word for it here. Talk to someone YOU know knows what they are doing.

That said, I leave you with a quote.

"Johnny was a chemist, Johnny is no more. What Johnny thought was H2O was H2SO4."
-UNKNOWN
Always add acid to water, so if the acid splatters, it's low molarity. Do it the other way around, pour water into acid, and it splatters, you've got some very acidic crap that might hit your hand, eyes, or worse.

mix em together and then put in some talcum powder and aluminum foil and bleach and ammonia and a couple different kinds off pool chlorination tablets (tri-chlor and bromide are a good combination) and you'll have several different toxic gases all at once.


Oh yes, you may want to buy a gas mask and a fume hood before you try this.

mix em together and then put in some talcum powder and aluminum foil and bleach and ammonia and a couple different kinds off pool chlorination tablets (tri-chlor and bromide are a good combination) and you'll have several different toxic gases all at once.


Oh yes, you may want to buy a gas mask and a fume hood before you try this.
A caveat: Never take advice from someone named after an organic matteress. *nods*

How the hell should I know the concentration? I don't have a full laboratory here. Sheesh. Any particular metallic suggestiong: doorknobs maybe? wash it off after though...

Wouldn't mixing them produce acetic acid and sodium chloride? You could do that, assuming you don't want them pure.

Just mix them with a bunch of water and pour them down the sink.

If you intend to use the hydrochloric acid, get a fume hood. I made the mistake of inhaling the vapours once. Ever had acid reflux and a very horrible sore throat? Tastes like puke, too.

I have no idea what would happen if you mixed the two together. It would indeed yield acetic acid and sodium chloride, but the effects of the reaction I don't know. It may be explosive or release toxic fumes (although I don't think the latter would happen).

HCl + NaC2H3O2 -> NaCl + HC2H3O2

Do NOT dilute it yourself! Talk to your Chemistry teacher.

I do not remember which way was which, but either adding water to acid, or adding acid to water, is a good way to loose your face.

Don't take peoples' word for it here. Talk to someone YOU know knows what they are doing.

That said, I leave you with a quote.

"Johnny was a chemist, Johnny is no more. What Johnny thought was H2O was H2SO4."
-UNKNOWN

What are you talking about, dude? You can dilute HCl milliliters at a time and be fine, I've done it before. You don't burn your face off. You'd have to dump like all of that HCl into one gallon jug near-full of water to do that. It just bubbles up, anyway, it's no more corrosive than the pure HCl is by itself.

First of all, don't play with hazardous chemicals in the house.

There, done.

No, that reaction wouldn't be particularly exothermic. It's a strong acid+weak acid salt reaction, so it would form a weak acid and a strong acid salt. It's totally safe.

NaC2H3O2+HCL yields salt and vinegar, interestingly enough.

If you wanted to neutralize it first you could toss in a bit of baking soda...(releases heat, though...and try to not throw in copious amounts all at once)...You'll end up with Carbonic chloride (hm...interesting, I don't think that that's anything terrible) and water.

How can it create what was used to make it if? The sodium acetate is in the same jar as the HCl. The way you guys put it, it would go back and forth...