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Why are some cultures acceptably stereotyped (most notably Native americans and the Irish) for sports teams while others are not. For example why isn't a team called the Braves (with an American Indian mascot) offensive but a team called the Wops would be? Both are used as a derogitory term toward a specific culture. Why is this unfair double standard ignored?

Unless someone actually does feel offended (ie a Native American Person), I don't think any action is justified.
If someone does feel offended, they can go to court if they feel like it. It's the American way.

PS: More Mascots (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=435766).

Its ignored because they are mascot. Thats it, its just mascots. Most people have better things to worry about than what a team use for their mascot.

The NCAA recently removed all Native American mascots from apering in the post season because of complaints. Also is the team being named these things demeaning?

Eh the fact is, your general population of American sports fans just don't care about the mascot that much. They are more worried about their team winning.

The NCAA recently removed all Native American mascots from apering in the post season because of complaints. Also is the team being named these things demeaning?

Complaints by whom, where are these complaints? I've not heard or read a single one about the Arkansas State University Indians. I get the feeling it is just a quasi-administrative body paying humbridge to PC attitudes.

What's next, the NCAA telling the Arkansas Razorbacks they can't keep that name because it offends PETA? Gimme a break!

It might be offensive to some people, and it isn’t to others. You can’t possibly remove all offensive material. At least one person will find one thing offensive in every peace of media in existence.

I think whether or not they are offensive varies from team to team. I see nothing particularly offensive about, say, the Chiefs, but I do have a problem with the Redskins, which is nothing more than a recycled racial epithet, and seems a little like calling the team the Washington N*****s.

I do know some Native Americans who find the names very offensive, but there's simply not enough of them for most people to care, unfortunately.

The moment the Boston Crackers win the Super Bowl it can cease being offencive.

Raiders, Bucs
Toothless, cowardly, mudering, theives (and let's be honest guys who experienced man on man love because of the lack of other available options).

About the only one I could get behind changing is the Washington Redskins.

Who cares? I mean honestly, if you get upset over a mascot. Then you are a sad sad little person.

We haven't had any teams called ni&&er, or Sp1cs, W4op etc.........

This is for business ! For making Money....if it would kept butts out of the seats and people off the televison you would see name chamges lickity split!

What am I freakin invisible here?

NO ONE REALLY CARES ABOUT MASCOT NAMES!

Why are some cultures acceptably stereotyped (most notably Native americans and the Irish) for sports teams while others are not. For example why isn't a team called the Braves (with an American Indian mascot) offensive but a team called the Wops would be? Both are used as a derogitory term toward a specific culture. Why is this unfair double standard ignored?
Aye, the "Fighting Irish," is offensive.

And I'll kick anybody's bloody arse for wearing one o' their t-shirts.

It makes me almost as angry as England occupying our sweet homeland of Northern Ireland!

Please the National Badminton (Shuttle Cock)Team
Is called the Black cocks! :p

Please the National Badminton (Shuttle Cock)Team
Is called the Black cocks! :p

*snickers*

so if a team was could the Vikings that would be offensive to Norwegians???
Or the Huskarls, Lancers, etc....

I would understand if the team was called the cotton pickers or yellow horde or something like that.
The redskins i kinda understand. I mean image the pasty whites or the darkies as team names...

Why are you people fighting about this. Mascot has VERY little impact on our lives. :rolleyes:

I wouldnt care if a team was called the 'white skins', I dont think a negro would care much either about a team called the 'blackskins' I honestly dont think an Asian would go beserk about a team called the 'yellowskins' I cant see an Indian really caring that deeply to the point of rage about a team called the 'redskins'.
Its just a name, with some humour involved, of course if we had the 'niggas' or the 'crackers' I could see some unnecessary spite.
It seems the only people who get their knickers in a knot over trivia like this, are the usual pc freaks, no one else really cares that much .

Obviously none of you guys frequent the Baseketball Scene. :rolleyes:

I think people should take offence just so i can ridicule them for it.

Seriously we cant name all teams Lakers.
LA Bitches about it.
Is there even a lake in LA?
Jazz in Utah?
Vikings in Minesota?
Magic in Orlando
There were Bullets in Washington,Wizards gosh no etc etc

The idea of the Celtics being called Seltics is offensive.

This brings to mind the Fightin' Whities. Some Colorado school intramural team had the name Fightin' Reds. Local Indians got offended so they turned the tables on the white man; names their team Fightin' White. Turns out white people weren't offended, found it funny actually, so now you can buy Fightin' Whitie shirts online.
I look at it like this: Be happy you're a mascot. You name mascots after things you admire, things that are strong or fast or vicious. Having a team named after you is a compliment.

Being of Irish stock I find that the idea someone could find the 'fighting Irish' offensive strange, the 'cowardly Irish' would be offensive, or the 'cringing Irish.'

Bah. Next my own UConn Huskies will have to be renamed, as some heavy folks will start taking offense... :rolleyes:

Why are some cultures acceptably stereotyped (most notably Native americans and the Irish) for sports teams while others are not. For example why isn't a team called the Braves (with an American Indian mascot) offensive but a team called the Wops would be? Both are used as a derogitory term toward a specific culture. Why is this unfair double standard ignored?

I think there is a very small group of people in this country who really need hobbies. :p

http://www.cafepress.com/fightinwhite.2161307

I hear their fight song is the chicken dance.