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As an american, a soldier, and an atheist, these people quite piss me off.

"The soldier is in hell now, you believe?" Mahoney asked.

"Absolutely," Phelps-Roper said.
It astounds me how ideological some fuckards can be.

Buncha idiots.

Wow... first I thought these guys were protesting military funerals because they were pacifists... but now I realize they're just a bunch of assholes.

Stuff like this pisses me off as well. Fred Phelps is an asshole. He's just expanded the number of people he hates on.

Why even pay attention to the asshat? Is he really worth the effort it takes to make a thread?

Phelps is an idiot, and an embarrassment to Kansas, well, to everyone, really.
And Chellis, you ain't a soldier yet. Once you get home from Benning, then you might be on your way.... ;)

It will be alot of fun. When are you shipping again? And are you SURE you don't want to go 19D or 09S?

In situations such as this, violence is recommended.

I don't think God thinks too highly of them. On a non theological note. It is foolish and hateful behavior. Eventually it will probably get someone killed. I guess than they will think they have a martyr. If they did this on the internet they would be considered trolls. And trolling/flaming ect. are too kind of terms.

They are utterly without taste or a single iota of intellect, but they strongly oppose the complete and and utter disaster that is the Iraq war. I am conflicted.

I looked at this thread at first and thought that it was something really sick, but then I saw it had to do with Fred Phelps, and I thought, "Oh, that asshole again. No surprise there."

Phelps is a direspectful idiot, Im shocked he would just show up to a funeral in front of loved ones and mock what the man stood up for, its just wrong,

When he dies, we should picket his funeral with signs saying:

"The old fat fathat is on his way to hell!"

I suppose we can all look forward to Phelps's funeral someday. I suspect an awful lot of people will show up with signs saying "Fred In Hell"...

People like him make me weep for humanity. :(

Phelps is an idiot, and an embarrassment to Kansas, well, to everyone, really.
And Chellis, you ain't a soldier yet. Once you get home from Benning, then you might be on your way.... ;)

It will be alot of fun. When are you shipping again? And are you SURE you don't want to go 19D or 09S?

My monthly pay, military bank account, military credit card, military ID, dogtags, uniform(when it arrives), etc say different. For all intents and purposes, im a soldier who hasnt been trained :P

Anyways, I ship next year, and I have no clue what 09S is. And how would I go about getting an MOS change?

They are utterly without taste or a single iota of intellect, but they strongly oppose the complete and and utter disaster that is the Iraq war. I am conflicted.

I am against the war too, but we dont need to be grouped with idiots like these.

I am against the war too, but we dont need to be grouped with idiots like these.
While I would never lend my support to these fucktards if they can start a rightwing anti war movement perhaps they could do some good Unfortunantly however they will probably just end up giving all anti war people a bad name.

As far as I can tell his is an anti-homosexual agenda. Somehow he has twisted that into an antiwar message.

Something like "God is punishing us for our sins by killing our men". It's hard to understand his ravings, let alone his agenda. I think he's clinically insane.

BTW, he had political ties to Al Gore, and ran for Governor in Kansas three times. He also corresponded with, and supported, both Castro and Saddam. He later picketed the funeral of Gore's father.

I think he's clinically insane.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rev._Fred_Phelps

Wow. This guy/group is/are (an) idiot(s)! If I were a member of this kid's family, I would have torn them a new @$$hole. I'm not for the war, but I still support our troops. I can't believe there are people out there this stupid.

My monthly pay, military bank account, military credit card, military ID, dogtags, uniform(when it arrives), etc say different. For all intents and purposes, im a soldier who hasnt been trained :P

Anyways, I ship next year, and I have no clue what 09S is. And how would I go about getting an MOS change?

09S is Officer candidate. If you like E6 pay for year, have 60 college hrs to begin, and 90 when you graduate, you can be a butterbar and help CA and the ARNG overcome our critical shortage of officers. Plus, it opens up all kinds of neato schools. You can always go to OCS after you finish OSUT, though. Your CPT will probably have a heart attack and give you his blessing. Then you can begin your journey to the Dark Side. It is cool going back to MEPS and getting the gold folder for your commissioning physical, going to the head of the line, and being called 'Sir.'
For regular MOS changes, I believe that it is 6 months in the ARNG, but unit commanders usually don't sign off on it unless they are full up.
So they gave you ID tags? We never got ours in REP, we got them after shipping. I guess it takes all kinds.....

When he dies, we should picket his funeral with signs saying:

"The old fat fathat is on his way to hell!"

I live about 30 minutes away from him, and if you want to make the trip, then I am game. In fact, I will go and do it wether or not you do. ;)

Fred Phelps just loves to see his name in the paper. People give him far more attention than he deserves.

jesus people are so fucked up it blows my mind,religion of love my ass :mad:

I'm glad I wasn't there as I'd be either in jail for trying to kick the shit out of the protesters or in the hospital because they kicked the shit out of me. This guy is a disgrace to Christianity and America.

While I would never lend my support to these fucktards if they can start a rightwing anti war movement perhaps they could do some good Unfortunantly however they will probably just end up giving all anti war people a bad name.

The only problem with your thought process here is that the guy and his cult are left wing supporters.

I'm opposed to the war. But there are reasons to oppose it that make a damn sight more sense in my view than this:

Who would serve a nation that is godless and has flipped off, defiantly defied, defiantly flipped off, the Lord their God?This is the bit that makes me wonder if the whole thing isn't some sort of joke. Nobody who isn't trying to pull a stunt would actually utter a sentence like this...

And yes - the idea of violating someone's funeral to score a cheap religious point is repellant. These people call themselves 'Christians', do they?

--
Adaru
(Former leader of Orcadia Tertius until he lost the password and decided it was too damn long a country name anyway. :oP)

This group of so-called 'protesters' sound like they ARE terrorists with their 'God hates America' talk. Sounds vaguely familliar to 'Allah hates in infidels'.

I'm opposed to the war. But there are reasons to oppose it that make a damn sight more sense in my view than this:

This is the bit that makes me wonder if the whole thing isn't some sort of joke. Nobody who isn't trying to pull a stunt would actually utter a sentence like this...

And yes - the idea of violating someone's funeral to score a cheap religious point is repellant. These people call themselves 'Christians', do they?

--
Adaru
(Former leader of Orcadia Tertius until he lost the password and decided it was too damn long a country name anyway. :oP)

I understand why you think this, but Fred Phelps has been doing this shit too long for it to be a joke. I can't imagine anyone more hate-filled and venomous than Fred Phelps. Check out his Wikipedia entry for some stories.

Interesting tidbit, though. He was once a civil rights lawyer who represented blacks who were discriminated against. He even won an award from the NAACP at one point. People are very complex.

They are utterly without taste or a single iota of intellect, but they strongly oppose the complete and and utter disaster that is the Iraq war. I am conflicted. There are proper ways to show Opposition to the War. that isn't one of em.

While I would never lend my support to these fucktards if they can start a rightwing anti war movement perhaps they could do some good Unfortunantly however they will probably just end up giving all anti war people a bad name.They give all Christians a bad name. Even Jesus showed kindness and understanding to the Romans who were persecuting them. He even healed a centurion sent to arrest him, something Phelps forgot.

jesus people are so fucked up it blows my mind,religion of love my ass :mad:I hope you realize that not all Christians are not like this ID10T. that's like saying all Islamics are Terrorists... which they are not.

As a Christian, I am sickened by this man's actions, and I weep for those who follow him.

There are proper ways to show Opposition to the War. that isn't one of em.

They give all Christians a bad name. Even Jesus showed kindness and understanding to the Romans who were persecuting them. He even healed a centurion sent to arrest him, something Phelps forgot.

I hope you realize that not all Christians are not like this ID10T. that's like saying all Islamics are Terrorists... which they are not.

As a Christian, I am sickened by this man's actions, and I weep for those who follow him.

I agree. I am and always have been, opposed to this war, but not the poor sods who are sent to do the politicians bidding. This man cannot even leave the grieving to bury their dead. To be honest, if I were able, I'd institute a law banning any picketing or demonstration at any funeral. Let us all pray for this diseased persons quick demise and progress to eternal damantion.

i am a christian and in no way do i agree with these people. their logic is flawed.
defending this country is a great honor, some pay for it with their lives, but whether or not a man goes to hell is set in his own heart, not the agenda of the military he is working for, and in no way do i agree that our country is doing anything wrong in this war that would be upsetting to god, these christians are what i call doom and gloom christians and they do not represent the majority of christians.

To be honest, if I were able, I'd institute a law banning any picketing or demonstration at any funeral.
Unfortunately, that would expressly violate the consitution. Freedom of peacable assembly and all that.

Unfortunately, that would expressly violate the consitution. Freedom of peacable assembly and all that.Heh... wonder if you can set up a protest against the protesters...

People who follow Fred Phelgms group around and just stands between them and the object of their protest and protest against them.

Heh... wonder if you can set up a protest against the protesters...

People who follow Fred Phelgms group around and just stands between them and the object of their protest and protest against them.

It's tempting but would further demean a familys last farewell.

It's tempting but would further demean a familys last farewell.
Exactly, the last thing that a family wants is TWO groups of hotheads yelling at each other or a scuffle breaking out.

Maybe, at the family's request, you could get enough supporters singing "Amazing Grace" loud enough to drown out Phelps' handful of moron supporters.

Exactly, the last thing that a family wants is TWO groups of hotheads yelling at each other or a scuffle breaking out.

Maybe, at the family's request, you could get enough supporters singing "Amazing Grace" loud enough to drown out Phelps' handful of moron supporters.agreed on the Funerals, but the other protests... like against that school that had that play?

and all you need really is a wall of people facing them, saying nothing but just preventing them from being seen, and holding up signs to block out theirs.

a human fence if you will. and should they "force their way through" then have em arrested for assault and battery.

People who have followed Phlps' career say that the best approach is to ignore him completely, keep him on the sidelines. His ego feeds from attention. Unfortunately it's hard for the media not to report on him.

I ususally take comfort in the fact that groups like these dickheads serve to remind me that I'm great. :D

Liverbreath']The only problem with your thought process here is that the guy and his cult are left wing supporters.

You're kidding, right? Phelps is famous for endorsing anti-gay hate crimes, for heaven's sake. He's not left- or right-wing, he's just insane and evil.

agreed on the Funerals, but the other protests... like against that school that had that play?

and all you need really is a wall of people facing them, saying nothing but just preventing them from being seen, and holding up signs to block out theirs.

a human fence if you will. and should they "force their way through" then have em arrested for assault and battery.
Well, I think you are still turning an annoying but peaceful protest into a confrontations with all the necessary ingredients for a riot. I'm sure Phelps and his buddies would love to give and take some beatings for their cause, and the people who put on plays like this would think twice if it turned out they were actually a catalyst for violence.

and all you need really is a wall of people facing them, saying nothing but just preventing them from being seen, and holding up signs to block out theirs.

a human fence if you will. and should they "force their way through" then have em arrested for assault and battery.

Ever seen "The Laramie Project"? It discusses how people did exactly that at Matthew Shepard's funeral - except the human fence was made of people wearing huge cardboard angel's wings. It'd be wonderful if people would show up to be angels at every event that dickhead attends...

I still like my "Amazing Grace" idea. This doesn't require anyone to place themselves in a position to be involved in any fights, and the song, which is all about forgiveness and love, might just make a couple of Phelps' cronies ashamed of themselves.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/kmbc/20050805/lo_kmbc/2866367

As an american, a soldier, and an atheist, these people quite piss me off.
Fucking idiotic bastards! Damn! I'm sure glad I wasn't there! :(

He's just digging himself a bigger and bigger hole; however, I credit the funeral attendees with acting responsibly and not giving in to what those hate mongers want. Their lack of compassion is disgusting; the only way to fight them is to let them "protest" (it's not protesting, it's pure hatred) and simply ignore them.

Is this the idiot that considers every dead soldier an act "of God" but bomb attacks against him an act "of criminals"?

In situations such as this, violence is recommended.

OOOOOOOH letmeatem!
By the way, in the fantasy world of attacking protesters, geeks win. geek fantasies usually include much of the great combo of two throwing returning ranged keen scimitars and the improved critical (scimitar) feat.

this gives you 2/5 chance of decapitating your target. and that can be anyone within 60 feet. and you can throw one of them every 3 seconds, they return to you just in time for the next throw.

so, anyone want a giftpack of them, including large backpack and fifty of them?

i hate these kind of protesters. sometimes i think that using genetic testing to stop couples from having children with severe diseases would be better if they added "or politicians or religous nuts" to the list of genetic disorders.

in wooktopia, they do that. if you want to know why they have hot water in births in movies, it's in case the child is a politian.

mmm soup!

Well, I think you are still turning an annoying but peaceful protest into a confrontations with all the necessary ingredients for a riot. I'm sure Phelps and his buddies would love to give and take some beatings for their cause, and the people who put on plays like this would think twice if it turned out they were actually a catalyst for violence.
Phelps came here once (to Seattle), with a van of followers. Although the Police stood between us and them, his tiny band was immediately engulfed by a crowd of at least a hundred people, most of whom, like myself, had simply been walking by and been seriously offended by this hate-filled creep. We jeered. We shouted. We told him to get the hell out of our city. And believe me, he did. In a hurry.
A few months later, he actually announced a protest against the (gay-friendly) Presbyterian Church on Broadway at a specific time. By an hour beforehand, the street was full of counter-protestors (his previous visit had been a "surprise"). He never even showed up that time.
Now, I know things are a little different up here in the Soviet of Washington, and especially in Seattle. But if Phelps and his crew aren't even brave enough to take on a few of us girlie-men (and for the record, I'm straight, but that doesn't make a difference to Phelps), there's probably little danger of a riot.

09S is Officer candidate. If you like E6 pay for year, have 60 college hrs to begin, and 90 when you graduate, you can be a butterbar and help CA and the ARNG overcome our critical shortage of officers. Plus, it opens up all kinds of neato schools. You can always go to OCS after you finish OSUT, though. Your CPT will probably have a heart attack and give you his blessing. Then you can begin your journey to the Dark Side. It is cool going back to MEPS and getting the gold folder for your commissioning physical, going to the head of the line, and being called 'Sir.'
For regular MOS changes, I believe that it is 6 months in the ARNG, but unit commanders usually don't sign off on it unless they are full up.
So they gave you ID tags? We never got ours in REP, we got them after shipping. I guess it takes all kinds.....

Well, I have a year before I ship. Since I havnt gone through boot, couldn't I just leave the guard, and re-sign up? Or something similar?

I've just come back to this and I realise that even given the killing and general injustice in the world, there is possibly nothing more despicable and inhuman than disrupting a funeral. I believe that this is one of those rare groups of slime that do deserve a fucking good kicking. Once or twice should do it with that filth, I think they'd soon scuttle off like the vermin they are if threatened again. I'd willingly go to jail myself for a crack at those pieces of shit.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/kmbc/20050805/lo_kmbc/2866367

As an american, a soldier, and an atheist, these people quite piss me off.

Chellis? You're a soldier??? I thought you were a Highschool kid who moped around the house all day.

Phelps is a direspectful idiot, Im shocked he would just show up to a funeral in front of loved ones and mock what the man stood up for, its just wrong,


When he dies, it might be a good idea to show up at his funeral, not protesting, but celebrating. With beer, bbq, and signs like "God Hates Fred Phelps Who's Rotting in Hell right now for all of his gay/soldier bashing antics."

:)

I'm glad I wasn't there as I'd be either in jail for trying to kick the shit out of the protesters or in the hospital because they kicked the shit out of me. This guy is a disgrace to Christianity and America.

I think the real disgrace is the fact that this guy and his cohorts are indoctrinating young kids. Teaching them to be hateful and bigotted in the name of their god. I think that bothers me the most about these jerks.

I think the real disgrace is the fact that this guy and his cohorts are indoctrinating young kids. Teaching them to be hateful and bigotted in the name of their god. I think that bothers me the most about these jerks.

If god is on their side, call me an atheist.

If god is on their side, call me an atheist.when both sides are conviced that God is on their side... they are both right.

and if God isn't on their side... then what do we call you? :D

when both sides are conviced that God is on their side... they are both right.

and if God isn't on their side... then what do we call you? :D

Sir.

When he dies, it might be a good idea to show up at his funeral, not protesting, but celebrating. With beer, bbq, and signs like "God Hates Fred Phelps Who's Rotting in Hell right now for all of his gay/soldier bashing antics."

:)

I think an act of simple urination on Phelp's grave is all that is required.

I think an act of simple urination on Phelp's grave is all that is required.or just blast "Ding dong the witch is dead" over loudspeakers.

actually, I would rather just quietly attend his funeral, and leave with the comment
"Just making sure"

Wait, wait, WAIT! You guys are JUST figuring out Phelps is a nutjob retard? Or did I misread the thread?

Wait, wait, WAIT! You guys are JUST figuring out Phelps is a nutjob retard? Or did I misread the thread?

Yeah. Till I read this thread, I thought he was pretty cool. He was Bush's second choice for Attorney General, so I figured he was mainstream.

. He was Bush's second choice for Attorney General, so I figured he was mainstream.

Please tell me that's not true.

Wait, wait, WAIT! You guys are JUST figuring out Phelps is a nutjob retard? Or did I misread the thread?no, I pegged him as a radical when he protested against that school play.

I'm just amazed that no one's speaking up in his defense. :D

Please tell me that's not true.

It's not true.

He was Bush's second choice for Attorney General, so I figured he was mainstream.
This is news to me...

It's not true.whew...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/kmbc/20050805/lo_kmbc/2866367

As an american, a soldier, and an atheist, these people quite piss me off.

As a European, a pacifist and a Catholic, I really can't take these people seriously, they make me laugh most of the time.

As a European, a pacifist and a Catholic, I really can't take these people seriously, they make me laugh most of the time.

I understand the point you're making but I doubt that that grieving family laughed much.

*does a quick check of topic*
Hey, no "ZOMG CRISTANZ R EVUL!' posts!
ITS A MIRACLE!
*sings something stirring and patriotic*

Seriously though, thank you all for not condeming all Christians as idiots. I fully support the killing of anybody who is attempting to kill you or cause you grevious bodily harm ;)

*does a quick check of topic*
Hey, no "ZOMG CRISTANZ R EVUL!' posts!
ITS A MIRACLE!
*sings something stirring and patriotic*

Seriously though, thank you all for not condeming all Christians as idiots. I fully support the killing of anybody who is attempting to kill you or cause you grevious bodily harm ;)I know.. Post 22 (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9386470&postcount=22) is the closest thing to Christian bashing so far.

These scum-bags are clearly not Christians.

Chellis? You're a soldier??? I thought you were a Highschool kid who moped around the house all day.

I'm a bit of both.

Well, I have a year before I ship. Since I havnt gone through boot, couldn't I just leave the guard, and re-sign up? Or something similar?

You could, but it is too much trouble. You might as well go 11B, then apply to OCS when you get back. Your CO won't stop you from going, he will totally encourage it. At that point, you will become an 09S automatically.

or just blast "Ding dong the witch is dead" over loudspeakers.Hey - I happen to know some witches, and they're a damn sight more moral than this self-deluding toerag...

Hey - I happen to know some witches, and they're a damn sight more moral than this self-deluding toerag...oops, I offer my heartfelt applogies to them. I really didn't mean to drag them down to his level.

Mon Dieu, that's just gross. I can't believe anyone could do that. How heartless.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/kmbc/20050805/lo_kmbc/2866367

As an american, a soldier, and an atheist, these people quite piss me off.

I'll need a gun. Preferably large-bore.

You could, but it is too much trouble. You might as well go 11B, then apply to OCS when you get back. Your CO won't stop you from going, he will totally encourage it. At that point, you will become an 09S automatically.

But I dont really want to become an officer... Im pretty set on being a bradley person.

Concerning martial valor, merit lies more in dying for one's master than in striking down the enemy.

If in one's heart,
He follows the path of sincerity.
Though he does not pray,
Will not the gods protect him?

As everything in the world is but a sham,
Death is the only sincerity.

-Hagakure

Really I can't wait to picket those protesting bastards funerals. :sniper:
Why don't they move to a shithole like Iraq if they like it so much?

Concerning martial valor, merit lies more in dying for one's master than in striking down the enemy.Not in America.

"The object of warfare is not to die for your country, but to make the other poor bastard die for his". . General George S. Patton

I went onto Phelps' website once… he supports the London bombings and September the 11th.

Did you hear that? He supports the London bombings and September the 11th!

Phelps came here once (to Seattle), with a van of followers.
Remember, Seattle not just a nice place to visit, and near Enumclaw (if you're into that kind of thing, which is legal), it even has it's very own Jon Stewart approved nickname: Pussytown.

After reading the wiki article on him, I think insanity is an understatement.

I seriously wonder why someone hasn't just stepped up and shot this guy yet...

I'd be very depressed if he simply passed away from cancer.

I seriously wonder why someone hasn't just stepped up and shot this guy yet...

I'd be very depressed if he simply passed away from cancer.

One can at least hope it would be long and painful. Jesus, I don't normally feel that way about anyone.

I went onto Phelps' website once… he supports the London bombings and September the 11th.

Did you hear that? He supports the London bombings and September the 11th!

Not just that, the fuckers glorify it. You'd be hard put to find any Muslim site so hateful.

http://www.godhatesfags.com/featured/20050707_subway-bomb.html

Not in America.

"The object of warfare is not to die for your country, but to make the other poor bastard die for his". . General George S. Patton

Well, the example given is of Sato Tsugunobu, who intercepted arrows aimed for his master, Yoshitsune.

For an American example, what about Rodger Young?
A private in the 148th Infantry, 37th Infantry Division, he was killed on July 31, 1943 on the island of New Georgia, Solomons, S. Pacific. His platoon had been pinned down by by intense fire from a pillbox; Private Young was wounded in the first burst. He crawled toward the pillbox, was wounded a second time but continued to advance, firing his rifle as he did so. He closed on the pillbox, attacked adn destroyed it with hand grenades, but in doing so he was wounded a third time and killed.

"The Way of the Warrior is fulfilled in Death. When it comes to either/or, there is only the quick choice of Death." -Hagakure

I have found a group of people I can honestly say I would not give a damn if they were all wiped clean off the face of the earth leaving behind nothing but giblets and bloodstains....

I went onto Phelps' website once… he supports the London bombings and September the 11th.

Did you hear that? He supports the London bombings and September the 11th!
Don't fret yerself over that whackjob. Some far rightwing nutcase will take his ass out before too long. Heh!

Don't fret yerself over that whackjob. Some far rightwing nutcase will take his ass out before too long. Heh!Unfortunatly, we (as a country) would be obligated to give him jail time instead of a medal.

Unfortunatly, we (as a country) would be obligated to give him jail time instead of a medal.
Heh! Well, I've never noticed that extremists of whatever stripe were concerned about either medals or jailtime. :)

I do believe that there is a section in the bible or holy books that states killing to protect the innocent from tyrrants is okay.

On a different note, those people should be arrested, tried for treason, and then put in a regime like Saddams.

Print this out and wipe your arse with it. Then send it to the bastards.

http://www.godhatesfags.com/fliers/aug2005/20050801_jason-palmerton-funeral.pdf

Now compare that with this:

http://www.godhatesfags.com/main/Precious_Death.pdf

On what grounds can they claim that anybody is in Hell? Only God Himself can do that. What disrespectful idiots. And they call themselves Christians?? I'm very ashamed. :mad:

Well, here's someones chance to teach the shit a lesson. Any takers?

http://www.godhatesfags.com/fliers/aug2005/20050804_marine-memorial.pdf

. And they call themselves Christians?? I'm very ashamed. :mad:

Assuming you say that because you're a Christian, don't be ashamed. This bucket of rotting shit has no Christians in it. They would be first on the list of damnation if Jesus came back.

huh, because wars have been done in gods name ever. The crusades anyone?

Assuming you say that because you're a Christian, don't be ashamed. This bucket of rotting shit has no Christians in it. They would be first on the list of damnation if Jesus came back.

Well, I'm mad, but I'm not exactly surprised. In the days of Jesus, the Jewish religious leaders were equally hypocritical. Jesus teaches of love, compassion and acceptance. I don't see any of those qualities displayed by those people in the report. "Weep with those who weep" was God's command, not "taunt those who are dead". Disgusting. :mp5:

One thing you never do, is show disrespect at a funeral, as a Christian, these idiots make me embarressed by association.
Those veterans should have ran across the road and belted the shit out of them.

I think the world needs more people like this, so liberals, conservatives, or whatever can have something to team up against, so we can realise that our different beliefs exist to create a balance to make this country as equal as possible, not for the sake of having a different opinion or arguing.

huh, because wars have been done in gods name ever. The crusades anyone?

Exactly, humans.......people fighting and killing in gods name, not at gods will. I am not a Christian, I don't believe you have to be to lead a decent life but I get pissed off at all the smug bastards who blame all the worlds troubles on Christianity or Islam or Judaeism or whatever. I get even more pissed off at those righteous cretins who, like the smears of pus this thread is about, use a faith to justify their diseased behaviour.

[QUOTE=Globes R Us]Well, here's someones chance to teach the shit a lesson. Any takers?

http://www.godhatesfags.com/fliers/aug2005/20050804_marine-memorial.pdf[/QUOTE

Well, anyone in the Ohio area on these dates?]

Well, the example given is of Sato Tsugunobu, who intercepted arrows aimed for his master, Yoshitsune.

For an American example, what about Rodger Young?
A private in the 148th Infantry, 37th Infantry Division, he was killed on July 31, 1943 on the island of New Georgia, Solomons, S. Pacific. His platoon had been pinned down by by intense fire from a pillbox; Private Young was wounded in the first burst. He crawled toward the pillbox, was wounded a second time but continued to advance, firing his rifle as he did so. He closed on the pillbox, attacked adn destroyed it with hand grenades, but in doing so he was wounded a third time and killed.
Notice in your story, that he made other poor bastards die for their country, preventing more Americans from dying for theirs. It's not a coincidence that the story isn't about a guy who was killed that didn't blow up the pill box.