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Creepy Douchebag, Robert Novak, seems to have a thin skin. Watch the video of him losing his mind on CNN:

http://mediamatters.org/items/200508040004

James Carville gave him a little poke, and the puss just crumbled. I absolutely love it when Karma makes a televised appearance.

Creepy Douchebag, Robert Novak, seems to have a thin skin. Watch the video of him losing his mind on CNN:

http://mediamatters.org/items/200508040004

James Carville gave him a little poke, and the puss just crumbled. I absolutely love it when Karma makes a televised appearance.
Personally I think he used it as an excuse to leave before he could be asked about the Plame mess.

I think he just blew a fuse. I never really liked the guy. I always thought he was a corrupt jerk.

I'd walk off set if people kept interrupting me. Who knows why it was that he walked off, maybe he didn't want to answer questions about the Plame case. I doubt that's it, because he's been talking for a long time how he wants to say a lot about it...

Regardless, it's kind of humorous that you call Novak a douchebag because some asshole kept interrupting him and he didn't like it. If I'm ever in politics, I'm leaving the set EVERY TIME someone interrupts me. It's damn retarded that Journalists ask a question then can't wait until the end of your answer before they're asking another question, and it's even worse when another person they are also interviewing interrupts you so that he can insult you.

I'd walk off set if people kept interrupting me. Who knows why it was that he walked off, maybe he didn't want to answer questions about the Plame case. I doubt that's it, because he's been talking for a long time how he wants to say a lot about it...

Regardless, it's kind of humorous that you call Novak a douchebag because some asshole kept interrupting him and he didn't like it. If I'm ever in politics, I'm leaving the set EVERY TIME someone interrupts me. It's damn retarded that Journalists ask a question then can't wait until the end of your answer before they're asking another question, and it's even worse when another person they are also interviewing interrupts you so that he can insult you.
Dude, it's not journalism, it's crossfire. It's basically a forum where Democrat douchebags like James Carville and Republican douchebags like Robert Nofacts square off and yell at each other and their guests in between commercials.

Dude, it's not journalism, it's crossfire. It's basically a forum where Democrat douchebags like James Carville and Republican douchebags like Robert Nofacts square off and yell at each other and their guests in between commercials.
I don't care if that is what you consider journalism or not. The fact of the matter is, if I were being interrupted by someone solely so they could insult me on national television (especially if it were some bullshit partisan insult), I'd stand up and walk off set as well. It's got nothing to do with whether or not that is journalism, and everything to do with the fact that Carville is an asshole and needs to learn to respect other people, even if he doesn't agree with them. You can disagree with someone WITHOUT making yourself look like a child.

I'd walk off set if people kept interrupting me

You don't watch much debate on news shows do you? That's how they ALL work!

As for calling Novak a "douchebag" it's become popular culture as it was first coined on Comedy Central's "The Daily Sow"" by Jon Stewart, and besides, he is a "douchebag". ;)

Maybe he had to go to the bathroom. Bladder probs and whatnot, ya know?

I don't care if that is what you consider journalism or not. The fact of the matter is, if I were being interrupted by someone solely so they could insult me on national television (especially if it were some bullshit partisan insult), I'd stand up and walk off set as well. It's got nothing to do with whether or not that is journalism, and everything to do with the fact that Carville is an asshole and needs to learn to respect other people, even if he doesn't agree with them. You can disagree with someone WITHOUT making yourself look like a child.
The fact is that everyone on Crossfire interrupts and throws little jabs at everyone else. It's like the Jerry Springer show for people with IQs over 80

You don't watch much debate on news shows do you? That's how they ALL work!
No, you're right. I don't. Because I know that's how they work, and I know that it accomplishes nothing. Have you ever watched a presidential debate? I'm not saying that accomplishes a whole lot, but at least both idiots get their points out and it's not boiled down into commercially sponsored childishness on live telivision.

I'm not saying that debates on news programs need to be that strict on debate rules...but if all these douchebags would just stop and give the person on the other side of the table the opportunity to say his peace, then these shows might be worth watching.

Just because this is how news shows do their debate doesn't mean that it's still childish and that Robert Novak wasn't right in walking off set because someone interrupted him so they could insult him. There's a fucking moderator setting across the table from them, he could've told that other guy to shut up and let Novak finish, but instead he was trying to join in.

Yeah, I saw that show on CNN too, political interview shows are terrible these days. The only one somewhat decent today is Meet the Press. The greatest interviewer IMHO is the great William F Buckley (http://www.americasvoices.org/images/BuckleyW.jpg) . His show back in the day (Firing Line) was an awesome show. He rarely ever lost a debate and was knowledgable on most every subject he spoke of.

Dude, it's not journalism, it's crossfire. It's basically a forum where Democrat douchebags like James Carville and Republican douchebags like Robert Nofacts square off and yell at each other and their guests in between commercials.

An accurate statement.

Now if we can get James Carville suspended too....

You don't watch much debate on news shows do you? That's how they ALL work!

Not all of them!

and besides, he is a "douchebag". ;)

I'll drink to that.

Just because this is how news shows do their debate doesn't mean that it's still childish and that Robert Novak wasn't right in walking off set because someone interrupted him so they could insult him. There's a fucking moderator setting across the table from them, he could've told that other guy to shut up and let Novak finish, but instead he was trying to join in.

The only thing that I think was really childish was what Novak did, given despite your views on news show debates, that's the business he's in. Therefore he gets paid a lot of money to work within this format. Believe me, he dishes it out as much if not more as he gets it. I've never seen Carville walk off stage when Novak has done the same to him. So, as much as you may disagree with the format, that is your right and you decide to not take part, where as Novak makes big bucks to do it and he knows exactly what he's walking into.. he just took a temper tantrum, my 7 year old son does it once in a while too.

The fact is that everyone on Crossfire interrupts and throws little jabs at everyone else. It's like the Jerry Springer show for people with IQs over 80
So because one show did it, that means that's how every debate on national telivision ought to be and it's wrong that Novak finally got fed up with it?

...Regardless, it's kind of humorous that you call Novak a douchebag because some asshole kept interrupting him and he didn't like it.

That's not the reason I called him a douchebag. I called him that for all the horrendous and vile things he has said over many years. He's not a douchebag for walking off the set, he's just a pussy.

Not all of them!

99% of them..lol

The only thing that I think was really childish was what Novak did, given despite your views on news show debates, that's the business he's in. Therefore he gets paid a lot of money to work within this format. Believe me, he dishes it out as much if not more as he gets it. I've never seen Carville walk off stage when Novak has done the same to him. So, as much as you may disagree with the format, that is your right and you decide to not take part, where as Novak makes big bucks to do it and he knows exactly what he's walking into.. he just took a temper tantrum, my 7 year old son does it once in a while too.
Mmm, my parents must be pretty retarded then. They brought me up teaching me that fighting is childish, and if you disagree with someone and it is escalating beyond anything civilized, the proper thing to do is to walk away.

So because one show did it, that means that's how every debate on national telivision ought to be and it's wrong that Novak finally got fed up with it?
You're missing the point. Novak is part of that circle, he is perfectly willing to interupt and insult just like the rest of them. Except now he's part of a story-part of a scandal. It's easier to hiss out your bitchin' and insulting newsmakers when you're just a commentator, but now he's on the other end of it--a place he was more than willing to spit venom, and he can't hang.

If he had a track record of not interupting and not being insulting, you'd have a point. But he doesn't. Quite the opposite. So this is a tissy and not self rightiousness.

99% of them..lol

LOL! Better but that isn't all of the :p

Mmm, my parents must be pretty retarded then. They brought me up teaching me that fighting is childish, and if you disagree with someone and it is escalating beyond anything civilized, the proper thing to do is to walk away.
By the time you where 7? Had it all under control? At 7. Never overreacted after the age of 7? What, where you little Lord Fauntleroy?

where you little Lord Fauntleroy?

ROTFL :D

Mmm, my parents must be pretty retarded then. They brought me up teaching me that fighting is childish, and if you disagree with someone and it is escalating beyond anything civilized, the proper thing to do is to walk away.
I wouldn't say they're retarded. Maybe just a little bit too civilized.

CNN I think secretly wanted this to happen. Their ratings are in the crapper, and a mental freakout maybe able to boost their numbers a little bit. I'd like to see these party operatives just lose it and maybe body slam the other side, tombstone, or give em a good ole Stone Cold Stunner. The ratings would explode. :)

CNN I think secretly wanted this to happen. Their ratings are in the crapper, and a mental freakout maybe able to boost their numbers a little bit. I'd like to see these party operatives just lose it and maybe body slam the other side, tombstone, or give em a good ole Stone Cold Stunner. The ratings would explode. :)
Ever watch the movie Network?

I'd say that walking off was perfectly fine, I'd have had to provide a demonstration of a sleeper hold, if I was being nice.

Mmm, my parents must be pretty retarded then. They brought me up teaching me that fighting is childish, and if you disagree with someone and it is escalating beyond anything civilized, the proper thing to do is to walk away.things are scalating in Iraq...When are we going to walk away?

I can't wait for Novak to start bitching about how he was treated and then a bunch of examples of how he does the same thing gets thrown in his face.

CNN I think secretly wanted this to happen. Their ratings are in the crapper, and a mental freakout maybe able to boost their numbers a little bit. I'd like to see these party operatives just lose it and maybe body slam the other side, tombstone, or give em a good ole Stone Cold Stunner. The ratings would explode. :)

I agree. Crossfire is yet another example of the blurring the distinction between facts and entertainment.

It's getting harder to get the facts with the CNN-style crap intended to hook viewers for an extra few minutes, just gotta get you to see one more advertisement. What's next, live special effects - maybe staged fistfights, kinda like 'professional wrestling'?

It's getting harder to get the facts with the CNN-style crap intended to hook viewers for an extra few minutes, just gotta get you to see one more advertisement. What's next, live special effects - maybe staged fistfights, kinda like 'professional wrestling'?

I find all the cable news networks use the same format though, it's not just CNN.

Seriously people, Network. Or perhaps the earlier Face in the Crowd.

I can't wait for Novak to start bitching about how he was treated and then a bunch of examples of how he does the same thing gets thrown in his face.

He really overreacted on that one...I mean, it's not like Carville actually insulted him or anything. After all, when you debate the Ragin Cajun, you have to be ready for anything. I personally found Carville's comment rather accurate.

I decry the current trend of news entertainment. I don't find it entertaining, and I actually think it's misleading the public. I have abundant news resources elsewhere, newsfeeds, blogs, headline news, C-Span. So they can all go pound salt, I'm done.

things are scalating in Iraq...When are we going to walk away?
Faulty logic. The situation is obviously different, and by this point, I'm of the opinion that walking away could very easily make the situation worse.

Being mature is about knowing when walking away will improve the situation and when it will hurt the situation. If the worse thing that happens when you walk away is that some kids on some forum on the internet are going to start calling you a douchebag, then big deal, just walk away.

There's clearly more at stake in Iraq.

Being mature is about knowing when walking away will improve the situation and when it will hurt the situation. If the worse thing that happens when you walk away is that some kids on some forum on the internet are going to start calling you a douchebag, then big deal, just walk away.

News Flash: Novak was suspended from his show for walking out. So I don't think he improved the situation. He's still in the middle of the controversy but now he might get fired too. Yeah walking away definitely made things worse.

You know, this whole episode brings up an interesting question: Is Bob Novak a Douchebag or a Pussy?

One need only point to the years of hateful slime this Jack-ass has let ooze from his mouth to make a convincing case for his Douchebaggedness. Yet, recent events have now put the spotlight on his complete Pussyhood. It seems he rolled over and sold out his buddy Rove at the first opportunity. Then as we saw in the video, one little remark about his lack of backbone is enough to send him into hysterics.

Now I know some of you are thinking... "why can't he be both a Pussy and a Douchebag? While I admit that this is possible, it is very rare. The very dogged and determined nature of Douchebags usually gives them enough self-righteous arrogance to avoid pussification. In this case, though, perhaps the case can be made for both traits. It's a tough call. Let's have a poll!

Is Bob Novak:

1. A Douchebag
2. A Pussy
3. Incredibly, He is Both.

You Decide!!!

He probably resides somewhere in the vague border area that delineates the two.

As for calling Novak a "douchebag" it's become popular culture as it was first coined on Comedy Central's "The Daily Sow"" by Jon Stewart,

wait what?

The fact is that everyone on Crossfire interrupts and throws little jabs at everyone else. It's like the Jerry Springer show for people with IQs over 80

Whoops, you had a typo there! ^_^;

Let's try it this way, "It's like the Jerry Springer show for people with IQs *under* 80".

There, fixed! ;)

The fact of the matter is that anyone who relies upon television for their news is being foolish and anyone who thinks interuption is a legitimate part of political debate is *twice* a fool. Hecklers may have their place but not upon the podium.

*shrugs*

That said, I suppose we could regard Crossfire as an example of why TV deserves its future death at the hands of the Net as a news medium in the first place. The nice thing about message boards is that you can't be interupted, you can't be shouted down and you've as much time as you like to think about what you want to say as you wish *if* you wish. :)

As for calling Novak a "douchebag" it's become popular culture as it was first coined on Comedy Central's "The Daily Sow"" by Jon Stewart, and besides, he is a "douchebag". ;)
Novak isn't just a douchebag, he's a Douchebag for Liberty. He's worked hard to deserve the full title, the least we can do is recognize it.

He didn't really crumble.

He's been ganged up on and insulted on CNN the entire time he's been there.

He fricken owns Capital Gang and even that is loaded with liberals to gang up on him. I think it's about time he put his foot down and said he isn't going to take it anymore.

He doesn't need to put up with their shit and their inferior ratings, go to Fox is my advice for him.

Just look at the figures, Drudge posts them once in a while.

FoxNews consistently gets more than 2.5 million viewers with it's primetime block of O'Reilly, Hannity, and van Susteran, when Larry King (the most popular show on CNN) only gets slightly less than 700k.

Novak's conservative, he'd fit in better and get treated better at Fox. He's just a liberal punching bag on CNN, and doesn't stick up for himself because he's friends with these people.

http://www.premiereinteractive.com/rushlimbaugh/downloads/NovakInterview.pdf

See page 11 for why he's such a big pussy on camera. He needs to grow some balls and move to Fox.

FoxNews consistently gets more than 2.5 million viewers with it's primetime block of O'Reilly, Hannity, and van Susteran, when Larry King (the most popular show on CNN) only gets slightly less than 700k.

Yes... and Jerry Springer gets much better ratings than William Shakespeare. Professional wrestling blows away Masterpiece theatre. Baywatch is the most popular show in the world.

FoxNews aren't the ones doing ridiculous primetime headlines about a pair of gay penguins in a zoo. *Cough* CNN courting gays *Cough*

Fox also doesn't have obnoxious bullshit shows with metrosexual toughguys throwing pens around like CNN and MSNBC too.

Both are politically biased. At least FoxNews doesn't put on two other conservatives on Hannity and Colmes to bully up on ole Pizzaface like CNN does to Novak regularly, I'm surprised they didn't have Michael Moore and Al Franken in on there with Jimmey.

Hah! That was an awesome comeback Gartef and illustrates your point oh so clearly. Quantity of viewers does not equal quality of programming.

FoxNews aren't the ones doing ridiculous primetime headlines about a pair of gay penguins in a zoo. *Cough* CNN courting gays *Cough*

Fox also doesn't have obnoxious bullshit shows with metrosexual toughguys throwing pens around like CNN and MSNBC too.

Both are politically biased. At least FoxNews doesn't put on two other conservatives on Hannity and Colmes to bully up on ole Pizzaface like CNN does to Novak regularly, I'm surprised they didn't have Michael Moore and Al Franken in on there with Jimmey.

Fox news stories:

- Sinead: I'm Not Crazy: One-time pop sensation Sinead O'Connor (search) was back in the news Friday -- by taking out a full-page ad pleading for people to stop making fun of her.

- We Like Short Shorts: Jessica Simpson turns 'Dukes' fans on to cowboy boots, denim bottoms

WOW! Talk about important stories that blow ridiculous facts about how homosexuality exists in other animals besides humans out of the water.

- Sinead: I'm Not Crazy: One-time pop sensation Sinead O'Connor (search) was back in the news Friday -- by taking out a full-page ad pleading for people to stop making fun of her.

- We Like Short Shorts: Jessica Simpson turns 'Dukes' fans on to cowboy boots, denim bottoms

WOW! Talk about important stories that blow ridiculous facts about how homosexuality exists in other animals besides humans out of the water.

Speak for yourself. Celebrity insanity and how chicks look in short shorts is rather interesting to me. Now if we had a hot celeb in short shorts, who also is crazy, that would be awesome. (edit:we have Mariah Carey already!)

You don't watch much debate on news shows do you? That's how they ALL work!

As for calling Novak a "douchebag" it's become popular culture as it was first coined on Comedy Central's "The Daily Sow"" by Jon Stewart, and besides, he is a "douchebag". ;)
A Douchebag of Liberty, no less. :D

Seriously people, Network. Or perhaps the earlier Face in the Crowd.
Except that in Network, people actually liked Howard Beale. Nobody likes Novak.

Of course, Beale did wind up getting shot at the end of Network.....

Except that in Network, people actually liked Howard Beale. Nobody likes Novak.

Of course, Beale did wind up getting shot at the end of Network.....

This just in:

Novak constantly puffs out dusty old man farts on set. Blames liberals.

Except that in Network, people actually liked Howard Beale. Nobody likes Novak.

Of course, Beale did wind up getting shot at the end of Network.....
Well, it wouldn't be a perfect match. But the movie is frightfully profetic in some cases. I actually thought I was going to hear people yell "BE REASONABLE!!!!" out their windows when Jon Stewart did the 'Go to your windows' bit.