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do we want the monarchy people, i'm my opinion its outdated. We no longer need them

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No! Guillotine the queen!

do we want the monarchy people, i'm my opinion its outdated. We no longer need them

Not only do we need the Monarchy, we need to restore them to power. As an American, I wish we could go back to colonial rule by the Brits. The past 5 years have shown that we are completely unable to govern ourselves intelligently. I vote for King Harry of America!

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For what country?

Not only do we need the Monarchy, we need to restore them to power. As an American, I wish we could go back to colonial rule by the Brits. The past 5 years have shown that we are completely unable to govern ourselves intelligently. I vote for King Harry of America!

You'd have Charles, and then William. Harry's just a spare. And I'll bet you Hillary doesn't seem so bad compared to Queen Camilla, does she?

For what country?

sorry tht was stupid of me "we the Brits"

You'd have Charles, and then William. Harry's just a spare. And I'll bet you Hillary doesn't seem so bad compared to Queen Camilla, does she?

Charles can't be King(something about his ears I think). William will rule England. That leaves us Harry.

Charles can't be King(something about his ears I think).

There's nothing precluding Charles from being King.

William will rule England. That leaves us Harry.

You'd have the same monarch as the rest of the commonwealth, that being Charles, then William.

sorry tht was stupid of me "we the Brits"

Speak for your self.....ANARCHIST *Atacks disropia wioth musket*

I strongly believe that Australia should become a republic. Lizzie (sweet girl that she is) shouldn't have a place in our government any longer.

Who's to say Harry and that other one are any good though? They might be psychotic prostitutes with a theory on how gravity doesn't really make us stay on the ground, glue does.

There's nothing precluding Charles from being King.

Them are pretty big ears.

Not only do we need the Monarchy, we need to restore them to power. As an American, I wish we could go back to colonial rule by the Brits. The past 5 years have shown that we are completely unable to govern ourselves intelligently. I vote for King Harry of America!

(If your not beig sarcastic) I totally agree!!!

Speak for your self.....ANARCHIST *Atacks disropia wioth musket*

I am not an anarchist i'm a facist i just hate the monarchy they are simply a bullying family tht have done well for themselves

Who's to say Harry and that other one are any good though? They might be psychotic prostitutes with a theory on how gravity doesn't really make us stay on the ground, glue does.

And that would be worse than Dubya how....

Them are pretty big ears.

You obviously know nothing of the inbred royalty preceding him. Their ears were the last thing you noticed about them.

I strongly believe that Australia should become a republic. Lizzie (sweet girl that she is) shouldn't have a place in our government any longer.

so you wish Australia to leave the Commonwealth..and anyway Australia is a Republic..the Royal familly have nothiong to do with the government...ellen mcarthuer is an honourary commador of the british navy, it doesnt mean she can command the 8th fleet

I am not an anarchist i'm a facist i just hate the monarchy they are simply a bullying family tht have done well for themselves

to get rid of the monarchy is to shed another peice of the whole institution...making us more like...FRANCE!!!...i repeat..FRANCE!

Does anyone else find it amusing that the only thing that's stopping our "democratic" system from degenerating to totalitarianism is the monarchy it's been bolted to?

Does anyone else find it amusing that the only thing that's stopping our "democratic" system from degenerating to totalitarianism is the monarchy it's been bolted to?

you live near corby!!! just an observation.....and yes it is quite amusing to say the least

Monarchy? It's plain ridiculous, I am Belgian and we still have a king.
But what in fact does a king have to do nowadays? He has to approve of laws, and if he doesn't, they relieve him from the power for 24 hours, approve of the law and go on. So the king is merely getting money from the state without doing anything, only because his dad was king before him *ptah* (spits on the floor) I spit on him!

And before people start calling me an anarchist; Anarchy is the only solution to our problems!

Them are pretty big ears.

Yes! Charles can't be king... Something about Elephants and a way of cooling the blood.

Monarchy? It's plain ridiculous, I am Belgian and we still have a king.
But what in fact does a king have to do nowadays? He has to approve of laws, and if he doesn't, they relieve him from the power for 24 hours, approve of the law and go on. So the king is merely getting money from the state without doing anything, only because his dad was king before him *ptah* (spits on the floor) I spit on him!

And before people start calling me an anarchist; Anarchy is the only solution to our problems!

that may be as well..in belgum...but its a whole different thing...your European..were British

Yes! Charles can't be king... Something about Elephants and a form of cooling the blood.

BEDEVERE: Who are you who are so wise in the ways of science?

ARTHUR: I am Arthur, King of the Britons.

that may be as well..in belgum...but its a whole different thing...your European..were British
So what does the queen do in Britain? wave at the people?
No Seriously, it would be worse even if we would give the power to 1 person simply because his dad was in power too, that doesn't make him a good ruler, it's very likely that, with REAL power they would just enrich 'emselves, and don't say they wouldn't. I don't know too many people who wouldn't and they would collapse to greed in time too.

BEDEVERE: Who are you who are so wise in the ways of science?

ARTHUR: I am Arthur, King of the Britons.

...Did you know that an african Swallow can carry a coconut 18 miles!

so you wish Australia to leave the Commonwealth..and anyway Australia is a Republic..the Royal familly have nothiong to do with the government...ellen mcarthuer is an honourary commador of the british navy, it doesnt mean she can command the 8th fleet

Australia isn't a rebublic, it's a constitutional monarchy. I think an Australian should be the Australian head of state. I don't want Australia to leave the Commonwealth. I think we can remain within the Commonwealth if we become a republic, but if that's the price we have to pay, then so be it.

So what does the queen do in Britain? wave at the people?
No Seriously, it would be worse even if we would give the power to 1 person simply because his dad was in power too, that doesn't make him a good ruler, it's very likely that, with REAL power they would just enrich 'emselves, and don't say they wouldn't. I don't know too many people who wouldn't and they would collapse to greed in time too.

The queen is kept in the same department as the imperial war museum, HMS Belfast and Imperial mesauremnts, it keeps britain britain. I do not beleive that all power should be held by the royals, of course not, all power should go to parliment, but i do beleive that the queen and other royals should be kept as figure heads, and as for "doesnt neceserally make him a good ruler" you forget that from birth (in times gone past) they would be trained for imperial and kingly duties.

Australia isn't a rebublic, it's a constitutional monarchy. I think an Australian should be the Australian head of state. I don't want Australia to leave the Commonwealth. I think we can remain within the Commonwealth if we become a republic, but if that's the price we have to pay, then so be it.

But dont you see? your prime minister is yor head of state..you should just do what canada do..ignore britain and the royals as much as possible

BEDEVERE: Who are you who are so wise in the ways of science?

ARTHUR: I am Arthur, King of the Britons.

Haha.

Those ears are HYPNOTIC. Whenever I see him on telly I just sit there staring at his ears... wondering if he can fly.

But dont you see? your prime minister is yor head of state..you should just do what canada do..ignore britain and the royals as much as possible

The PM is the head of our governement. The Governer General, and by extension, the Queen is our head of state.

The Antipodes Demand The Regal Rule!

So what does the queen do in Britain? wave at the people?

Like the House of Lords, she protects us from our elected representitives. They are unelected, in power regardless of public opinion, and so don't have to pander to the Daily Mail.
Tony Blair might have the nerve to sledgehammer things through the Lords, but I doubt even He would dare bypass the Queen if she saw fit to prevent a law being passed.

And, yes, Corby. Wretched hive of scum, villainy, chavs and all that ;)

O, come on. As if a republic is so perfect.
Many of us Europeans do not want a president "American-style" or "France-style", a de iure head of government. He has way too much power. So that leaves us a president more the Germans have. And what is his function, you ask?
Wave at the people, hold speech every now and then, and that's it.
If it's all the same with you, I'll keep my queen of the Netherlands, thankyouverymuch.

And I did not know that an african Swallow can carry a coconut 18 miles. Interesting.....
Can you tell me more interesting facts?
:D

The PM is the head of our governement. The Governer General, and by extension, the Queen is our head of state.

so...when was the last time the queen imposed "power"?...never...just ignore the royal familly..thats all there is to it i mean..canada doesnt complain

And I did not know that an african Swallow can carry a coconut 18 miles. Interesting.....
Can you tell me more interesting facts?
:D

Baby sloths are so stupid that they mistaken their own limbs for branches, grab on, and plummet to their deaths.

Heh.

And, yes, Corby. Wretched hive of scum, villainy, chavs and all that ;)

Demons too! i once saw a dog with 2 heads and 2 bodys in corby!!!

O, come on. As if a republic is so perfect.
Many of us Europeans do not want a president "American-style" or "France-style", a de iure head of government. He has way too much power. So that leaves us a president more the Germans have. And what is his function, you ask?
Wave at the people, hold speech every now and then, and that's it.
If it's all the same with you, I'll keep my queen of the Netherlands, thankyouverymuch.

And I did not know that an african Swallow can carry a coconut 18 miles. Interesting.....
Can you tell me more interesting facts?
:D

Exactly!..um..well..the holy grail is held by the french.....the meaning of life is...um..oh shit ive forgoten..Watch monty python films!

Baby sloths are so stupid that they mistaken their own limbs for branches, grab on, and plummet to their deaths.

Heh.

thats not funny..some of my best freinds are sloths..however a cow can not walk down steps.... >.> <.<

so...when was the last time the queen imposed "power"?...never...just ignore the royal familly..thats all there is to it i mean..canada doesnt complain

In 1975 the Queen's representative, the Governer General, dismissed the elected government, causing a general election & a new governement was elected.

We could ignore the royal family, or we could remove them from our power structure & have a solely Australian head of state for Australia. I think it's reasonable to want to have our own head of state, we have been a separate country for more than 100 years now.

In 1975 the Queen's representative, the Governer General, dismissed the elected government, causing a general election & a new governement was elected.

We could ignore the royal family, or we could remove them from our power structure & have a solely Australian head of state for Australia. I think it's reasonable to want to have our own head of state, we have been a separate country for more than 100 years now.

but you supply us with barmen and barwomen!...if you have an australian head of state..we still get to keep the royal family..deal?..oh and we want 3000 barfolk a year and those hats with corks on...apart from that i can see us making progress to declare the republic of australia perfectly valid :D :p

Canada's been a separate country for 138 years, you don't see us complaining. Not to mention, Elizabeth 2 isn't only queen of Britain, but of all the commonwealth. There are still several countries that use Britain's monarch as head of state, such as my country, Canada. We decided not to become a republic back in the American revolutionary days, we wanted to stay a part of Britain. Queen Elizabeth is on the back of all our coins, and on the $20 bill. The monarch plays a key role, though often ceremonial, in the way we govern our country. It's an old and "sacred" institution that has made Britain one of the most powerful nations today, including the empire it created. I'm proud to have a monarch, because it's also one more thing that distinguishes Canada from it's other neighbor's in north america. As head of State, though, the queen should get more involved in the duties reserved for her, such as opening parliament in every country where she's the queen, not just Britain. Oh, and do more tv and radio interviews. Get involved, Lizzie. :p

Not to mention, Elizabeth 2 isn't only queen of Britain, but of all the commonwealth. There are still several countries that use Britain's monarch as head of state, such as my country, Canada. We decided not to become a republic back in the American revolutionary days, we wanted to stay a part of Britain. Queen Elizabeth is on the back of all our coins, and on the $20 bill. The monarch plays a key role, though often ceremonial, in the way we govern our country. It's an old and "sacred" institution that has made Britain one of the most powerful nations today, including the empire it created. I'm proud to have a monarch, because it's also one more thing that distinguishes Canada from it's other neighbor's in north america. As head of State, though, the queen should get more involved in the duties reserved for her, such as opening parliament in every country where she's the queen, not just Britain. Oh, and do more tv and radio interviews. Get involved, Lizzie. :p

thats the spirit :D you get the blackadder thums up ...here. have a digestive buiscuit

...As head of State, though, the queen should get more involved in the duties reserved for her, such as opening parliament in every country where she's the queen, not just Britain. Oh, and do more tv and radio interviews. Get involved, Lizzie. :p

She should also have full war-powers authority for all English speaking nations.

but you supply us with barmen and barwomen!...if you have an australian head of state..we still get to keep the royal family..deal?..oh and we want 3000 barfolk a year and those hats with corks on...apart from that i can see us making progress to declare the republic of australia perfectly valid :D :p

Too easy! Done and done. :)

that may be as well..in belgum...but its a whole different thing...your European..were British

Funny, when it comes to reaping in rewards the EU has to offer, you're as european as any of us, but as soon as it comes to your goddamned national pride, you're suddenly something better? Mm hmm. You're just as european as any other country in Europe. Everything from Ireland to Greece, in my opinion.

A monarch does have a nice appeal. A good monarch, at least. Laws are passed quickly, there are no compromises, and so on and so forth. But what's to stop some psycho from becoming king? Nothing. So it's all one grand game of roulette. Russian roulette, even. One wrong Monarch and everyone's screwed.

So that leaves us a president more the Germans have. And what is his function, you ask?
Wave at the people, hold speech every now and then, and that's it.

Our president is nothing but a representative of state. An over-paid one. It's more fair to compare our Chancellor (being head of the government and all) to the presidents around the world. One way or another, most governments have flaws no one wants to fix because anyone that could profits from them anyway.

It's an old and "sacred" institution that has made Britain one of the most powerful nations today

Repeat that please... britain most powerful nation? Oh yea, if you count piggy-backing on the US as powerful. But of course, in today's world a decent economy is enough to be considered powerful, I guess.

Too easy! Done and done. :)

right then...from this day on Australia will no longer maintain QE2 as head of state, but shall undergo all its commonwealth duties as usual except that it is a republic, britain shall receive barfolk,marsupials,hats and so forth as expected...oh by the way. good luck in the next ashes

thats not funny..some of my best freinds are sloths..however a cow can not walk down steps.... >.> <.<

Ah, and thus that leads to a great prank to perform on the teachers. Lead a cow up into the staffroom one night... and voila! a source of cow pats that can't be removed!!

ahaha.

I love sloths. They's so cute.

When it rains, turkeys gape at the sky until they're mouths fill with water and they drown?

I don't know about tha tone though, I got that off Johnny Bravo.

Funny, when it comes to reaping in rewards the EU has to offer, you're as european as any of us, but as soon as it comes to your goddamned national pride, you're suddenly something better? Mm hmm. You're just as european as any other country in Europe. Everything from Ireland to Greece, in my opinion.




Repeat that please... britain most powerful nation? Oh yea, if you count piggy-backing on the US as powerful. But of course, in today's world a decent economy is enough to be considered powerful, I guess.

eh?..1 solid third of world was under british rule..germanys empire consited of the mother country and a sausage factory near johannesberg. and its right about germans not haveing a sense of humour because i was only playing my usual anti pc "british embassador to the internet" when i made that humerous comment.


EDIT: Dont take me seriousely to much ;)

I don't see how anyone can be reasonably egalitarian and still support monarchy. Personally, I wouldn't mind a president. Vive la république, I say.

Ah, and thus that leads to a great prank to perform on the teachers. Lead a cow up into the staffroom one night... and voila! a source of cow pats that can't be removed!!

ahaha.

I love sloths. They's so cute.

When it rains, turkeys gape at the sky until they're mouths fill with water and they drown?

I don't know about tha tone though, I got that off Johnny Bravo.

i wouldnt be too sure on that one...i got a good idea for a "blitz" though...get 3 pigs paint on their backs te numbers 1,3, and 7 and let them run throughout the school! mayhem will ensue

The revenues for tourism that the monarchy brings in outweighs anything negative about them

Besides, they are good ambassadors, better than cherie blair anyway

The revenues for tourism that the monarchy brings in outweighs anything negative about them

Besides, they are good ambassadors, better than cherie blair anyway

i agree...i hear she laughed drink through her nose when meeting a swahili official... >.> <.<

i agree...i hear she laughed drink through her nose when meeting a swahili official... >.> <.<

she also took around £100,000 off a childrens charity to appear at one of their events

she also took around £100,000 off a childrens charity to appear at one of their events

disgracefull...make me PM thats what i say ;)

disgracefull...make me PM thats what i say ;)

And make me your wife. We can scatter animals around unsuspecting people and laugh, laugh away.

Give The Queen her Rightful income!

And make me your wife. We can scatter animals around unsuspecting people and laugh, laugh away.

why not...yes..i can see it now...hundreds of Emus gallavanting through the white house as part of one of my trans atlantic visits...

why not...yes..i can see it now...hundreds of Emus gallavanting through the white house as part of one of my trans atlantic visits...

:sniper:

why not...yes..i can see it now...hundreds of Emus gallavanting through the white house as part of one of my trans atlantic visits...

Yes! Excellent idea!

And at least I would snort any kind of drink out of my nose. I'm much to proper for that :D.

Yes! Excellent idea!

And at least I would snort any kind of drink out of my nose. I'm much to proper for that =D.

ah..what part of britain do you live in?

ah..what part of britain do you live in?

Ah, poor unsuspecting boy. I don't live in Britain, I live in China.

I am from Hertfordshire though, the beautiful town of Harpenden.

Ah, poor unsuspecting boy. I don't live in Britain, I live in China.

I am from Hertfordshire though, the beautiful town of Harpenden.

oh..how is china? my freinds from china gave me pphotos of the beutifull scenery and the great wall

oh..how is china? my freinds from china gave me pphotos of the beutifull scenery and the great wall

Mm, Beijing is beautiful.. Though I've never been. I was supposed to go 2 years ago, but you know, SARS and all that.

Hong Kong.. is hot, and busy. Quite evil, really.

Mm, Beijing is beautiful.. Though I've never been. I was supposed to go 2 years ago, but you know, SARS and all that.

Hong Kong.. is hot, and busy. Quite evil, really.

ah :)

ah :)

We've completely hijacked this thread into our own little conversation.. I feel bad. Hahah.

We've completely hijacked this thread into our own little conversation.. I feel bad. Hahah.

hmm..true... :p maybe we should put it back on track?

I quite like having the Monarchy as a Brit - we have all the pomp and ceremony which makes being British so much fun!

I fully support the Monarchy...as long as that crusty old hag Camilla doesn't get her claws into it...

hmm..true... :p maybe we should put it back on track?

Yes, okay...

The Queen! She's what seperates us from the French. *shakes fist* Those French...

Plus, she doesn't use her power as much as she could, and tourism is great because of her, so it doesn't really matter.. Does it?

Yes, okay...

The Queen! She's what seperates us from the French. *shakes fist* Those French...

Plus, she doesn't use her power as much as she could, and tourism is great because of her, so it doesn't really matter.. Does it?

no not much...all in all..she is better for the country than she is bad...i am in favor anyway but..um.yes i am for monarchy

Yes, okay...

The Queen! She's what seperates us from the French. *shakes fist* Those French...

Plus, she doesn't use her power as much as she could, and tourism is great because of her, so it doesn't really matter.. Does it?

Does the whole of the UK pay for the upkeep of the royal family? even if it is a tiny amount

Yes, okay...

The Queen! She's what seperates us from the French. *shakes fist* Those French...

Plus, she doesn't use her power as much as she could, and tourism is great because of her, so it doesn't really matter.. Does it?

Without the royals, the tabloids & all those cheap magazines would have nothing to write about.

I quite like having the Monarchy as a Brit - we have all the pomp and ceremony which makes being British so much fun!

I fully support the Monarchy...as long as that crusty old hag Camilla doesn't get her claws into it...

agreed..the duke of rutland doesnt like her even...

Whats so bad about Camilla anywho?

Does the whole of the UK pay for the upkeep of the royal family? even if it is a tiny amount

only the queen and prince phillip..soemthing like 20p a year from each houshold or soemthing to that effect...charles is an entrepener and receives 98% of all his money from his estate

Whats so bad about Camilla anywho?

:D you must be American yes? :D

:D you must be American yes? :D

Nope. Northern Irish

Nope. Northern Irish

ah...well..now cammila?..yes..wellthe problem with her is that she generally isnt a nice person...

ah...well..now cammila?..yes..wellthe problem with her is that she generally isnt a nice person...

Why? (I had the urge to make this degenerate into me asking a continuous question but i conquered it :p )

Well - put simply, she was indirectly responsible for the break-down of Charles and Diana's marriage, and therefore partly responsible for Diana's death.

As Diana herself said

"It felt like there were three people in this marriage."

Without the royals, the tabloids & all those cheap magazines would have nothing to write about.

Exactly!

Having a Monarchy creates jobs!

Yay! We solved THAT.

It amazes me that, even when he was young & eligible and could have had his pick of the attractive young lassies, Charles chose Camilla.

It amazes me that, even when he was young & eligible and could have had his pick of the attractive young lassies, Charles chose Camilla.

She does look awfully like a horse...maybe she and Anne (HRH Princess Royal) have something in common?

Well - put simply, she was indirectly responsible for the break-down of Charles and Diana's marriage, and therefore partly responsible for Diana's death.

As Diana herself said

"It felt like there were three people in this marriage."

But has she not proved after all these years that she was involved with Charles out of love. Charles and Diana were never going to work out. Shouldnt we just be happy that things have finally ended with a happy outcome

It amazes me that, even when he was young & eligible and could have had his pick of the attractive young lassies, Charles chose Camilla.

we thinks william is going for princess madeline of sweden picy and site (http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.angelfire.com/de3/verenasroyalphotos/images/Madde102.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.angelfire.com/de3/verenasroyalphotos/Madde2002.html&h=400&w=251&sz=21&tbnid=1XgFK0Y2uL0J:&tbnh=120&tbnw=75&hl=en&start=1&prev=/images%3Fq%3D%2Bmadeline%2Bof%2Bsweden%2Bprincess%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3Dlang_en%26safe%3Doff )

Isn't it great....

I wish people wouldn't keep putting Diana on a pedestal. She manipulated the media and got what she wanted just like anybody else. If Charles hadn't made his first mistake by joining the Navy to do his duty instead of marrying Camilla in the first place then Diana would still be an unknown childrens nanny and all you pseudo republicans would have to find something else to whinge about.

No - I think the only thing she has proven is that she is a manipulative old codger...

And Charles, I mean - honestly...wearing cufflinks with Camilla's family crest on that she had given to him when he was having a Wedding Anniversary meal with Diana? How utterly stupid is that man?

Welcome to the forums Sigelbea

I don't seriously think that Diana manipulated the media at all - she was an object of it yes, and she was pursued by it, yes...but she deliberately manipulated it for her own gains?

What gains? To be unable to step outside without being hounded by journalists? To have her face constantly flashed across the papers when she was out having a quiet meal with her kids? I don't think so...

And if you're saying that Diana manipulated the media for her own ends...then let's take the next leap with that logic and come to the conclusion that she must have managed to manipulate the media so successfully that she ended up dying in a Parisien tunnel.

Wow - go Diana, you certainly know how to manipulate the media to benefit yourself.

<shakes head>

we thinks william is going for princess madeline of sweden picy and site (http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.angelfire.com/de3/verenasroyalphotos/images/Madde102.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.angelfire.com/de3/verenasroyalphotos/Madde2002.html&h=400&w=251&sz=21&tbnid=1XgFK0Y2uL0J:&tbnh=120&tbnw=75&hl=en&start=1&prev=/images%3Fq%3D%2Bmadeline%2Bof%2Bsweden%2Bprincess%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3Dlang_en%26safe%3Doff )

Much better taste than his father. :D

Much better taste than his father. :D

oh indeed ;)

Much better taste than his father. :D

Ooh, she is quite pretty.

do we want the monarchy people, i'm my opinion its outdated. We no longer need them

We Americans decided this one a long time ago - no.

We Americans decided this one a long time ago - no.

that could be why the question wasnt adressed to you?

that could be why the question wasnt adressed to you?

Ah, but it was:

we as in "the forum"

Am I or am I not a member of this forum?

Ah, but it was:



Am I or am I not a member of this forum?

Yeah it was changed to include just the British at a later point in the thread. It should have been changed in the start post too

Yeah it was changed to include just the British at a later point in the thread. It should have been changed in the start post too

Ah - my bad, then. I hadn't read all 6 or 7 pages or whatever before responding. Of course, if I did that, then I'd never get to post anything at all since I only have about an hour of reading and posting time each morning before work, and maybe half an hour during my lunch break. Such is life in the forum, I guess. :(

Monarchy in Russia? No. Putin proclaiming himself Emperor and Autocrat--that's too extreme.

We Americans decided this one a long time ago - no.

Well .... we all make mistakes

your all interesting people with interesting comments so i delight in saying UR WRONG! :)