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Abortion Labels

Irico
03-08-2005, 20:47
Help:

knowing the following, what label would you give me.

For me, if my partner is pregnant with my child, i would do everything in my power to convince her to keep the child. Does this make me Pro-life?

As for everyone else, i couldn't care less. Do as you will regarding this issue and i won't hold it against you either way. Does that make me Pro-choice?

For me, i'm Pro-life. For other's i'm Pro-choice. Is that possible? Do you have to be one or the other exclusively? How does a person choose when they believe the way i do?

Or are there other criteria to consider when trying to figure out which side of the fence you're on?
UpwardThrust
03-08-2005, 20:58
Help:

knowing the following, what label would you give me.

For me, if my partner is pregnant with my child, i would do everything in my power to convince her to keep the child. Does this make me Pro-life?

As for everyone else, i couldn't care less. Do as you will regarding this issue and i won't hold it against you either way. Does that make me Pro-choice?

For me, i'm Pro-life. For other's i'm Pro-choice. Is that possible? Do you have to be one or the other exclusively? How does a person choose when they believe the way i do?

Or are there other criteria to consider when trying to figure out which side of the fence you're on?
No one says being pro choice that you have to like or want or wish abortions on anyone

Pro choice is all about that … choice and making sure the mother has reproductive determination of her fure

So I guess I have to ask is leaving the choice up to her the most important?

(meaning if you could legally over ride her and go against her wishes what would you do)

For example for me … I dislike abortion and would absolutely never recommend it to my gf or wife no matter what … but in the end until after the first 20 weeks or so I do not find there sufficient reason to override her reproductive decisions about her body
Laerod
03-08-2005, 21:03
Or are there other criteria to consider when trying to figure out which side of the fence you're on?There's only one criteria: Are for or against abortion being legal?
You don't have to be for abortion. I'm not. I'd probably act the same as you would if my partner was pregnant, even though I'm studying and it's somewhat difficult to raise a child under these conditions in Germany, but I'm for allowing abortions.
That's the only real issue, you don't have to be for abortions to be pro-choice.
The Czardaian envoy
03-08-2005, 21:07
You can be selective, but I'm not. I'd be pro-choice even with my own kid, because a) I don't like children that much anyway and b) you have to have some compassion for other people. I was always taught by my parents that you have to think of what others want. It's not that hard.
Sumamba Buwhan
03-08-2005, 21:09
Help:

knowing the following, what label would you give me.

For me, if my partner is pregnant with my child, i would do everything in my power to convince her to keep the child. Does this make me Pro-life?

As for everyone else, i couldn't care less. Do as you will regarding this issue and i won't hold it against you either way. Does that make me Pro-choice?

For me, i'm Pro-life. For other's i'm Pro-choice. Is that possible? Do you have to be one or the other exclusively? How does a person choose when they believe the way i do?

Or are there other criteria to consider when trying to figure out which side of the fence you're on?

I would say you are pro-having kids in that situation.
Laerod
03-08-2005, 21:10
You stated it better then I did lol
booyah! That says it all right there.
Gee, thanks :D
UpwardThrust
03-08-2005, 21:11
There's only one criteria: Are for or against abortion being legal?
You don't have to be for abortion. I'm not. I'd probably act the same as you would if my partner was pregnant, even though I'm studying and it's somewhat difficult to raise a child under these conditions in Germany, but I'm for allowing abortions.
That's the only real issue, you don't have to be for abortions to be pro-choice.
You stated it better then I did lol
Frangland
03-08-2005, 21:11
does the fetus/embryo belong to the woman, or to society?

because if it belongs to society, then one could make the legal interpretation that abortion is murder.

(devil's advocate. hehe)
Callipygousness
03-08-2005, 21:13
I would personally call you pro-choice. You're affecting her choice, but you're not totally disregarding it. You're still allowing her to choose... right?

But for the others, you are pro-choice. Definitely.

The difference is that it would be YOUR child. There's a slight connection between you and the unborn child.
Sumamba Buwhan
03-08-2005, 21:13
There's only one criteria: Are for or against abortion being legal?
You don't have to be for abortion. I'm not. I'd probably act the same as you would if my partner was pregnant, even though I'm studying and it's somewhat difficult to raise a child under these conditions in Germany, but I'm for allowing abortions.
That's the only real issue, you don't have to be for abortions to be pro-choice.


booyah! That says it all right there.
Laerod
03-08-2005, 21:22
Okay, this is weird...
A moment ago, UT and SB posted to my original post, and now, all of a sudden, my response to those appears BEFORE theirs...
How... the... F...?!?
AnarchyeL
03-08-2005, 21:27
Help:

knowing the following, what label would you give me.

For me, if my partner is pregnant with my child, i would do everything in my power to convince her to keep the child. Does this make me Pro-life?

As for everyone else, i couldn't care less. Do as you will regarding this issue and i won't hold it against you either way. Does that make me Pro-choice?

I think the key here is that you would do everything in your power to convince your partner. It sounds to me like you still think she should have the final decision.

If that's the case, I'd say you're definitely pro-choice. There is certainly nothing anti-choice about a man desiring children and hoping to find a partner who will bear his child. There is not even anything anti-choice about trying to convince your partner to have a child -- especially if part of your "argument" includes the financial and emotional support that you will provide.

Does that sound right? Or would you really like to force your partner to have your child, against her wishes... rather than convincing her that it's the best thing to do?
Laerod
03-08-2005, 21:30
This happened in another thread thismorning that I commented on it being wierd

Maybe you want to post something about this in moderation or technical ... it is wierdThe problem seems to be something with the servers... they're not in sync and I'm on the one that's behind. The technical thread on it is quite funny, since people quote the solution before it's there...:D
UpwardThrust
03-08-2005, 21:32
Okay, this is weird...
A moment ago, UT and SB posted to my original post, and now, all of a sudden, my response to those appears BEFORE theirs...
How... the... F...?!?
This happened in another thread thismorning that I commented on it being wierd

Maybe you want to post something about this in moderation or technical ... it is wierd
Swimmingpool
03-08-2005, 21:32
Help:

knowing the following, what label would you give me.

For me, if my partner is pregnant with my child, i would do everything in my power to convince her to keep the child. Does this make me Pro-life?

As for everyone else, i couldn't care less. Do as you will regarding this issue and i won't hold it against you either way. Does that make me Pro-choice?

For me, i'm Pro-life. For other's i'm Pro-choice. Is that possible? Do you have to be one or the other exclusively? How does a person choose when they believe the way i do?

Or are there other criteria to consider when trying to figure out which side of the fence you're on?
You're pro-choice all the way my friend. You're making the choice to keep the child, while someone else may make the opposite choice.

The conservative wing has flooded society with false ideas about pro-choice people gleefully killing babies and totting up their hit lists. It's just wrong.
UpwardThrust
03-08-2005, 21:35
You're pro-choice all the way my friend. You're making the choice to keep the child, while someone else may make the opposite choice.

The conservative wing has flooded society with false ideas about pro-choice people gleefully killing babies and totting up their hit lists. It's just wrong.
Agreed pro choice is NOT pro abortion
Bolol
03-08-2005, 21:36
I think it is only natural that you'd be more attached to your future child. However, I think that since you are trying to convince your partner to carry the child, and by acknowledging that others may do as they wish, you are pro-choice.

Pro-life, there would be no option, except carrying the child, for anyone who becomes pregnant.