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Do we have any Libertarians in here? To find out what you are go to the world's shortest political test!

http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html

I am a Conserative Libertarian.

I am a libertarian, leaning somewhat more left than right:

http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz-score/draw.php?p=8&e=6

I'm a libertarian, I lean toward conservatism, and I took that quiz a couple of years back (at a conservative/libertarian colloquium, I might add). I'm very pleased to meat you, Oak Trail.

I am a Conserative Libertarian.

so libertarian as in favoring tax cuts and a theocratic police state?


i'm a libertarian

We have too many libetarians here to count, and most don't need a quiz to know what they are.

Yay! More conservative libertarians! I'm libertarian economically but moderate socially.

Nope, not a Libertarian. But I am a Liberal :)

http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz-score/draw.php?p=8&e=3

I do believe in a tax cut. But I don't believe in a police state. Let me ask you something. What do you think the Patriot Act does? Does it protect your freedom, or does it create a police state? See in a Libertarian government, we believe that the only functions of the government should be to defend the country and to protect the people.

This is my score.

http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz-score/draw.php?p=8&e=10

Pfft, I am SO not centrist!!! Stupid quiz... *walks off mumbling to herself*

I'm pegged dead on at the tip top as I have been every time since I first took it. It's not very comprehensive though.

Although I lean toward Libertarianism, I retain a lngering respect for traffic lights.

The quiz over at Political Compass is a bit more thorough, but some of the stuff on that test makes me scratch my head.

Although I lean toward Libertarianism, I retain a lngering respect for traffic lights.

I don't, I guess that why I get alot of red light tickets lol j/k.

I just think that the government is too big. Taxes are too high, and the government just makes too many laws regarding personal liberity and choices. I am a small person (5'5" 120lbs). Thereforth for things to work for me they have to be small as well. So I believe that the smaller the government the better. I also believe that that privatization works. I've seen it work, I know it works.

We have too many libetarians here to count, and most don't need a quiz to know what they are.

And most know that quiz is biased as well. ;)

Here's a good synopsis of the criticisms (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nolan_chart).

The quiz over at Political Compass is a bit more thorough, but some of the stuff on that test makes me scratch my head.

I like this quiz because it gives you a quick, 30 second overview of your political standpoint (although I believe the "centrist" region shouldn't be as large as it is) but political compass is great for giving a much more in-depth view as to exactly where you stand

I just took the political compass test, and it confirms that I am a Conserative Libertarian. :)

I’m all the way at the top. But I knew that already.
http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz-score/draw.php?p=10&e=10

And most know that quiz is biased as well. ;)

Here's a good synopsis of the criticisms (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nolan_chart).

heh, one of the wikipedia anarchists clearly had a hand in that. ah, arguments about the actual meaning of the term "economic freedom".

I'm a librarian. Leaning towards non-fiction.

I'm a librarian. Leaning towards non-fiction.

are you part of the revolutionary biography tendency, or the technical journal freedom front?

Do we have any Libertarians in here? To find out what you are go to the world's shortest political test!

http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html

I am a Conserative Libertarian.

My results...


ACCORDING TO YOUR ANSWERS,

The political description that
fits you best is...

.

LIBERTARIAN

LIBERTARIANS support maximum liberty in both personal and economic matters. They advocate a much smaller government; one that is limited to protecting individuals from coercion and violence. Libertarians tend to embrace individual responsibility, oppose government bureaucracy and taxes, promote private charity, tolerate diverse lifestyles, support the free market, and defend civil liberties.

Your PERSONAL issues Score is 100%.
Your ECONOMIC issues Score is 90%.

I just think that the government is too big. Taxes are too high, and the government just makes too many laws regarding personal liberity and choices. I am a small person (5'5" 120lbs). Thereforth for things to work for me they have to be small as well. So I believe that the smaller the government the better. I also believe that that privatization works. I've seen it work, I know it works.

Taxes arn't that high we pay less than any other 1st world nation. We just need to adjust the money to better ends, like giving it to schools, and not the millitary.

Also i'm a Liberal. going away from Stateism and more towards liberitanism, since i think the goverment should do things but only help people.

ACCORDING TO YOUR ANSWERS,

You fall exactly on the border

of two political philosophies...

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LIBERAL

LIBERTARIAN


*shrug* I'm happy with that.

I've taken that quiz a 100 times and it still has yet to convince me that I am a libertarian, no matter how many times it tells me. I think the Libertarians have some good ideas but they are too ideologically driven for me. Plus, the people they nominate for president have a strong tendency to be nutcases. It's a shame because I vote democrat despite disagreeing with them more often than I agree. With the Republicans moving to the religious right and the Democrats becoming increasingly irrelevant, the Libertarian party has a good chance at getting its ideas heard. It just needs to move closer to the mainstream and demonstrate a little more pragmatism.

Hey! I thought we agreed to give the socialists the term 'libertarian' back in exchange for the correct term 'liberal'?

Well well. Here's me thinking I'm more conservative. Turns out I'm a statist leaning centrist, although the chart implies more liberal than conservative (I'm not - I'm 50/50).

Your PERSONAL issues Score is 50%.
Your ECONOMIC issues Score is 30%.

So there you go.

Your PERSONAL issues Score is 0%.
Your ECONOMIC issues Score is 20%.

Woohoo! Go statism!

I'm definitely a libertarian. I'm probably a little more open to government intervention in the economy than many, but I'm still pretty free-market oriented. I think that when we take away all corporate welfare we will have less of a problem with monopolies and fraud anyway. On personal freedoms I'm pretty uncompromising. Whatever the arguments about what whether libertarianism does or doesn't work (and I think it does), my arguments for limited government are mostly from a moral standpoint. Natural rights and all that.

The Kat

Your PERSONAL issues Score is 0%.
Your ECONOMIC issues Score is 20%.

Woohoo! Go statism!
Why am I not surprised.

Why am I not surprised.
You're an emotionless, soul-less individual?

Why am I not surprised.
I have absolutely no clue why you are not surprised. I mean for me to know why you are not surprised would require me to have the ability to read minds. I can not read minds so I can not answer your question that lacks a question mark.

http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz-score/draw.php?p=10&e=10

Hey! I thought we agreed to give the socialists the term 'libertarian' back in exchange for the correct term 'liberal'?

yeah, though you were going to get joint custody of 'liberal' with all the other descendants of the old school liberals.

I think that when we take away all corporate welfare we will have less of a problem with monopolies and fraud anyway.
The Kat

What exactly is your basis for thinking this? You might be able to make an argument for monopolies (although history doesn't bear this out. Monopolies were much more prevalent before the era of "corporate welfare") but I don't see how ending subsidies and tax breaks is going to end fraud.

My basic though on corporations is as follows:

Corporations are a legal fiction. The government, through legislation, allows corporations to exist and to have the rights that they do. I understand the advantages to society of having corporations, but you also have to understand that a corporation is (potentially) immortal and can amass more resources than any human can, and therefore more power. Therefore, it has all the potential for corruption and abuse of power that a government does. We have laws designed to limit the ability of government to abuse its power, and we need the same for corporations. The question is the amount of regulation that is needed.

I'm a notch from the top.

http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz-score/draw.php?p=9&e=9

It called me a liberal! Bastard quiz...

yeah, though you were going to get joint custody of 'liberal' with all the other descendants of the old school liberals.
That is fair.

Jah Bootie brings up a good point. Corporations should not have "rights." Only individuals have rights (I am against all conceptions of group rights). The laws which define what a corporation is and what its privileges are need to be rewritten. As for fraud, I don't think that there need to be any other "regulations" over and above simple laws against fraud (no stealing, no cooking the books, no making false statements in advertising, no insider trading). One change I would make is that enforcement of white-collar crime laws would be MUCH stronger, and people who cause others to lose millions of dollars of retirement or stock money by fraud will not go to cushy minimum security prison but will instead be locked up with murderers and other violent criminals. They have certainly done no less damage.

Why will ending corporate welfare lessen fraud and monopolies? Because there will be more room for competition, which in the long run ought to favor more and smaller businesses (except for a few industries which tend to natural monopolies, like telecom). Keep in mind that costs of transport and such will always leave the door open for local businesses. This is one reason I am pro pedestrian-friendly communities, and anti-suburbs and zoning. I like the small town model where you can walk down the street to the grocery store instead of hopping in the car and driving to the nearest strip mall. But I digress...the point is that without subsidies, companies will feel the real costs of what they do and there will be less strain on smaller businesses that will never get their hands on these privileges.

Jah Bootie brings up a good point. Corporations should not have "rights." Only individuals have rights (I am against all conceptions of group rights). The laws which define what a corporation is and what its privileges are need to be rewritten. As for fraud, I don't think that there need to be any other "regulations" over and above simple laws against fraud (no stealing, no cooking the books, no making false statements in advertising, no insider trading). One change I would make is that enforcement of white-collar crime laws would be MUCH stronger, and people who cause others to lose millions of dollars of retirement or stock money by fraud will not go to cushy minimum security prison but will instead be locked up with murderers and other violent criminals. They have certainly done no less damage.

Why will ending corporate welfare lessen fraud and monopolies? Because there will be more room for competition, which in the long run ought to favor more and smaller businesses (except for a few industries which tend to natural monopolies, like telecom). Keep in mind that costs of transport and such will always leave the door open for local businesses. This is one reason I am pro pedestrian-friendly communities, and anti-suburbs and zoning. I like the small town model where you can walk down the street to the grocery store instead of hopping in the car and driving to the nearest strip mall. But I digress...the point is that without subsidies, companies will feel the real costs of what they do and there will be less strain on smaller businesses that will never get their hands on these privileges.


I don't see any evidence that competition favors small business in any way. Big business has the advantage of economies of scale. Wal-Mart hasn't needed government subsidies to close small businesses. And anyway, the problems with monopolies generally don't occur with things like small stores, but with things like utlitities and commodities like oil that require huge investments of capital.

Also, taking away the "rights" of corporations would mean getting rid of corporations altogether. Incorporation is a special right (or privelege, if you like. From my point of view the two are fairly indistinguishable) granted by the government. I actually think the existence of corporations is a good thing, but they are open to abuse and I certainly don't want to be ruled by the unfettered whims of mutlinationals.

It called me a liberal! Bastard quiz...
It called me a centrist. That's even worse.
It's too short anyways to make any reasonable conclusions.

It called me a centrist. That's even worse.
It's too short anyways to make any reasonable conclusions.
It's propaganda, what the hell did you expect?

It's propaganda, what the hell did you expect?
Maybe I'm just too trusting... :D

Maybe I'm just too trusting... :D
Well I wouldn't say..yeah you are. :p

It called me a centrist. That's even worse.
It's too short anyways to make any reasonable conclusions.
It called me a Liberal. :D bulls-eye.

It called me a liberal! Bastard quiz...

Haha, you thought you were a merciless communist, and it turns out you are just a bleeding heart wimp of a liberal.

It called me a Liberal. :D bulls-eye.
My commitment towards free trade always seems to pull me to the right. Strange really, that "Free Trade" has become such a domain of the right, when the most numerous right-wingers are usually the ones screaming for help when their jobs get outsourced.

If I remember right I am a Liberal-Libertarian.

I'm a Liberal Statist.

Your PERSONAL issues Score is 50%.
Your ECONOMIC issues Score is 0%.

World's Smallest Political Quiz:
PERSONAL issues Score is 90%.
ECONOMIC issues Score is 90%.

Political Compass:
Economic Left/Right: 1.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.54

Moral Politics:
Moral Order: 0
Moral Rules: -8
Ideologies: Ultra Capitalism/Ultra Liberalism ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minarchism )

<------- libertarian, ultra-individualist, pro-market & private property, abhors corporate right-wing collectivism and social left-wing collectivism alike.

My commitment towards free trade always seems to pull me to the right. Strange really, that "Free Trade" has become such a domain of the right, when the most numerous right-wingers are usually the ones screaming for help when their jobs get outsourced.There might actually be some sort of trend. A hypothesis. When unemployment goes up people are probably more likely to shift their votes to the left.

Spot on the border between liberal, libertarian, and centerist.

I think it's a good place to be.

There might actually be some sort of trend. A hypothesis. When unemployment goes up people are probably more likely to shift their votes to the left.
Just looking at Germany...maybe the traditional left is dead anyways.
If we're gonna see the Left return, it will be in a very different fashion to what it was like last century.
There probably won't be a clear-cut relationship between things like unemployment and political ideas anymore.

I was smack dab on the line between liberal and libertarian, leaning very far to the left...I think that makes me a communist.

I've taken that quiz a 100 times and it still has yet to convince me that I am a libertarian, no matter how many times it tells me.

That's because it's not an accurate political placement tool but a biased device to convince the uninformed that they should agree with the LP.

I think the Libertarians have some good ideas but they are too ideologically driven for me. Plus, the people they nominate for president have a strong tendency to be nutcases. It's a shame because I vote democrat despite disagreeing with them more often than I agree. With the Republicans moving to the religious right and the Democrats becoming increasingly irrelevant, the Libertarian party has a good chance at getting its ideas heard. It just needs to move closer to the mainstream and demonstrate a little more pragmatism.

I agree. Even as a pretty stong libertarian (see my sig), I agree.

I'm a libertarian, I qould have been all the way, but I'm confused as far as the sex questrion goes. By consenting adults does the question also mean that any who might end up seeing it are consenting adults as well? Because I find it annoying when the couple sitting nearby on the bus are just makeing out, but if the clothes start coming off someone is going to have to die very soon.