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Air france Flight From toronto has crashed in toronto after gliding off runway. Plane bursted on fire and no deaths reported at the present time! updates will be posted here!

i am so greatful no one is dead! i tip my hat to the crew for being able to evacuate the passangers so quickly. i'm not going to claim devine intervention, but they were super lucky.

No one's dead. It's all good.

It was caused by bad weather. I've been watching it live on TV since 4 PM this afternoon, I was watching a show when they cut in with the news. It's now 6:45 and they are still talking about it..lol

It was caused by bad weather. I've been watching it live on TV since 4 PM this afternoon, I was watching a show when they cut in with the news. It's now 6:45 and they are still talking about it..lol

Well it is kinda a big story!

Well it is kinda a big story!

Well, yes, I suppose. But they had already landed when it went off the runway. No one was killed. I think they said 14 people had went to hospital for minor things.

Everybody OK, or almost. Great technology, great crew training (saving with 12 all 350 before the big fire in 2 minutes or so), in short, a European airline and plaine. Would not like to be in something like that in a old plaine.

At least no one killed. That is a good thing.

My hats go off to the crew, they did a damn good job!

My sister called my cell 30 min ago...She was on the next plane.
she was totally stresses and crying...She flies a lot(business)...and she is always scared of bombs and accidents...I tried to calm her down...but her cell died.

for now they are grounded until further notice.

a miracle, no one died in a plane crash.

kudos to plane crews

It's absolutely amazing no one died. I cant remember a large airliner involved in a fiery crash that everyone survived. Im sure some amazing stories will come of it.

I was impressed no one died as well. Good job everybody, nice hustle!

When they first interrupted the regular broadcast for the News about this incident, my roomate turned to me and asked if might be terrorists, and I seriously considered the possibilty. Then they showed a clear picture of the crash site before and after the explosion, and along with the aboslutely dreadful weather (a severe thunder & lightning storm) it was very soon clear what the causes were. Terrorism was replaced with Got Hit By Lightning, though theres no proof of that yet.

The fact that no one got killed is awe inspiring. The crew did an amazing job, and the passngers must have listened to them and followed the crews orders rather well during the evacuation. A situation like that can so easily degenerate into sheer panic. This is probably a crash landing for the record and history books. I seem to recall several other situatioons in which Air France pilots and crew pulled some pretty amazing feats to save their passengers lives.

lol Airbus. Truly the shittiest of all commercial airliners.

It's absolutely amazing no one died. I cant remember a large airliner involved in a fiery crash that everyone survived. Im sure some amazing stories will come of it.true that.

Damn that's a shame, real sorry to hear that.

(The no casualties part, that is)

Damn that's a shame, real sorry to hear that.

(The no casualties part, that is)

There were casualties but no fatalities. There is a difference. And why were you hoping for casualties anyway? (That is if I'm reading this statement right)

When they first interrupted the regular broadcast for the News about this incident, my roomate turned to me and asked if might be terrorists, and I seriously considered the possibilty.

Why the hell would terrorists go after their allies? (Except for that whole school dress code incident, of course)

There were casualties but no fatalities. There is a difference. And why were you hoping for casualties anyway? (That is if I'm reading this statement right)

I knew that 10 years before you were born, man. I didn't bother to go back and see if it said fatalities or casualties, big deal.

The answer to your question is obviously that it was a derisive joke.

Why the hell would terrorists go after their allies? (Except for that whole school dress code incident, of course)

For fucks sake. I'm sick of hearing people calling the French the terroists allies. France has done more for the war on terror than any other nation. France is the last country you want to be in if your a terrorist! Just becuase they didn't support a war that turned out to be based on lies doesnt mean they're supporting terrorism! Jeeze...

I knew that 10 years before you were born, man. I didn't bother to go back and see if it said fatalities or casualties, big deal. The answer to your second question is obviously that it was a derisive joke.

1.) The joke wasn't funny!
2.) You need to have all information before you go saying there's 0 casualties
3.) You apparently aren't acting your age then with a joke like this.

1.) The joke wasn't funny!
2.) You need to have all information before you go saying there's 0 casualties
3.) You apparently aren't acting your age then with a joke like this.

1.) Your sense of humor is perhaps the least important thing in the world to me.
2.) I'm not under oath, I can make jokes however the fuck I want.
3.) Take your smarmy, mature high ground and stick it up your ass.

I got no conflict with you, holmes. Just don't go around insulting people twice your age by pointing out little errors in a tiny offhand joke they make. I can point out grammatical errors you've made in just this tiny little exchange, but I don't, because I feel no need to insult people I don't know with unimportant trivialities.

I don't think the joke is funny, either, if taken in a literal light. Obviously, there is a bit of a setup in this thread about "0 deaths, oh thank god!", to be answered with "I'm sorry to hear about that....the 0 deaths, that is! (zing)" The joke is about timing and deception, but because it went over your head in the first place, being a dry joke as it was, you apparently do not have the capacity to understand this. I forgive your intrusion, I forgive your dearth of understanding, I forgive your delusional subtle assertations of intellectual superiority derived from declaration of the obvious, I pity your life for being so devoid of substance as to find this a worthwhile endeavour, and this is all I will say on the matter.

For fucks sake. I'm sick of hearing people calling the French the terroists allies. France has done more for the war on terror than any other nation. France is the last country you want to be in if your a terrorist! Just becuase they didn't support a war that turned out to be based on lies doesnt mean they're supporting terrorism! Jeeze...

It's a damn joke, man. I don't ACTUALLY believe the French government is colluding with terrorists. I have no problem with the French besides what is often Parisiennes consistently thumbing their noses at Americans. Insult the war, fine, insult Americans....fuck that. Other than that, I don't care enough about them to hate them enough to wish them dead. This forum has all the humor of a rotting yak carcass. Forget I said anything, people obviously have no understanding of context and connotation.

1.) Your sense of humor is perhaps the least important thing in the world to me.
2.) I'm not under oath, I can make jokes however the fuck I want.
3.) Take your smarmy, mature high ground and stick it up your ass.

I'm ok with it but the joke wasn't the least bit funny.

I got no conflict with you, holmes. Just don't go around insulting people twice your age by pointing out little errors in a tiny offhand joke they make.

I do that all the time. Both with my parents, teachers, and professors alike. Unlike you, they don't tell offhand jokes regarding a disaster like this. Luckily there were no fatalities and what injuries there were, weren't life threatening.

I can point out grammatical errors you've made in just this tiny little exchange, but I don't, because I feel no need to insult people I don't know with unimportant trivialities.

Doesn't bother me. I normally ignore the grammatical and spelling correction posts because they're not worth the forum space to respond too.

I don't think the joke is funny, either, if taken in a literal light.

And that is how most off hand jokes hours after something like this are taken.

Obviously, there is a bit of a setup in this thread about "0 deaths, oh thank god!", to be answered with "I'm sorry to hear about that....the 0 deaths, that is! (zing)"

And 0 deaths are something to be praised for not joked about.

The joke is about timing and deception, but because it went over your head in the first place, being a dry joke as it was, you apparently do not have the capacity to understand this.

I actually understood it just fine but I do point things out when they aren't the least bit funny or in bad taste. Yours was both.

I forgive your intrusion, I forgive your dearth of understanding, I forgive your delusional subtle assertations of intellectual superiority derived from declaration of the obvious, I pity your life for being so devoid of substance as to find this a worthwhile endeavour, and this is all I will say on the matter.

Now your bordering on ad hom attack and on insulting my intelligence.

I'm ok with it but the joke wasn't the least bit funny.

See point 1.) above.

I do that all the time.

Then be glad you live where you live and not where I live.

Doesn't bother me. I normally ignore the grammatical and spelling correction posts because they're not worth the forum space to respond too.

Now your bordering on ad hom attack and on insulting my intelligence.

Quid pro quo. Don't demean people by pointing out the obvious in the first place. Furthermore, your misspelling of the two letter word "to" in the previous quote does enough toward that end, why would I need to throw gas on the fire which is your obtuseness? As for "Doesn't bother me", it was not a comment meant to stand alone, but was obviously made in reference to your allusion to the difference between casualties and fatalities, ie. an unimportant triviality. You are correct, small grammatical errors are not worth responding to, and nor are equally small errors like the one you pointed out. You obviously missed my point.

Let it die, man, it's over; this is a vapid and pointless argument you started.

It's a damn joke, man. I don't ACTUALLY believe the French government is colluding with terrorists. I have no problem with the French besides what is often Parisiennes consistently thumbing their noses at Americans. Insult the war, fine, insult Americans....fuck that. Other than that, I don't care enough about them to hate them enough to wish them dead. This forum has all the humor of a rotting yak carcass. Forget I said anything, people obviously have no understanding of context and connotation.

Perhaps the reason no one finds your jokes funny is because you suck at telling jokes.

Perhaps the reason no one finds your jokes funny is because you suck at telling jokes.

Perhaps the reason you have near 15,000 posts on here is because your life is the most miserable, pathetic existence to date, and you find yourself oft rejected by women and forced to spend time interjecting your useless rhetorical questions into ridiculous internet arguments? Mind your own business. The joke was not meant to be enshrined in the all time hall of fame, as I said, it's dry humor. Let it die; I really don't have time for you, and quite frankly I'm done wasting my own time with this horse shit.

Perhaps the reason you have near 15,000 posts on here is because your life is the most miserable, pathetic existence to date, and you find yourself oft rejected by women and forced to spend time interjecting your useless rhetorical questions into ridiculous internet arguments? Mind your own business. The joke was not meant to be enshrined in the all time hall of fame, as I said, it's dry humor. Let it die; I really don't have time for you, and quite frankly I'm done wasting my own time with this horse shit.

That's interesting speculation. The reason I have so many posts is because I work a night shift and there is very little to do all night long during my nights off other than post here. But good work with the "miserable, pathetic existence" idea. That is truly a new and unique crack that I have never once heard before, ever. You are the first. No one's ever tried to mock me for having a lot of posts before. You are truly one of a kind.

The reason I have so many posts is because I work a night shift and there is very little to do all night long during my nights off other than post here..
That's grasping at straws to say the least, but I don't really care about you, your night shift, OR your amount of posts, which is why I don't throw myself into threads and debase myself by attacking you, who I don't know.

No one's ever tried to mock me for having a lot of posts before. You are truly one of a kind.

I'm not out to mock you in an innovative fashion, you do not matter to me. Don't throw in stupid comments to insult me and I will gladly treat you with the respect I would like to be treated with. That's a part of growing up you will hopefully learn later in life. It'll help you go far.

I'm sorry to the originator of this thread that it has become filled with petty, sophomoric bickering; I meant to make two silly jokes which mock the mindset to which I am opposed, but two minute intellects decided that their lack of understanding timing, context, and dry humor was justification for debasing themselves with personal attacks on someone who has never done so to them. Perhaps now the Friars' Club can end their drab and prognosticable condescension and we can all move on to more important things.

As to the thread itself, it is obviously sad to see anyone injured at all, but relatively speaking, the fact that there were no deaths is most certainly fortuitous.

Let it die; I really don't have time for you, and quite frankly I'm done wasting my own time with this horse shit.
Ditto. Take a few days to chill out.

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Sorry, that was like turning the page to a really funny punchline. Good on you, Fris.

Geez, that guy makes trolls look bad.

Aryanis must be the most hated guy in the forum. This guy must be bloodthirsty and thinks plane crashes with dead people is an entertainment. This guy should seek mental help (and I'm not joking, I'm serious).

Anyway, hats off to Frisbeeteria. You're an excellent mod.

Sorry, that was like turning the page to a really funny punchline. Good on you, Fris.

Geez, that guy makes trolls look bad.

For once Dobbsworld, I agree with you.

I saw the news and images of the plane (totally trashed) then they said no deaths. I guess all that training for emptying a plane does work.

Wow...I lost track of the subject after a page chock full of stupidity.


Anyway- Its good news no one was killed or, apparently, seriously injured.

Its also good news that this seems to have been an accident and not deliberate sabotage or terrorism.

I hope people can return to daily life and business as usual without fear and best wishes to those injured.

It was caused by bad weather. I've been watching it live on TV since 4 PM this afternoon, I was watching a show when they cut in with the news. It's now 6:45 and they are still talking about it..lol

Tell me about it.

The weather was shitting rain for a few hours and the visibility was ridiculous.

Why the hell would someone who is flying a plane in the sky LAND at that time...I will never know.

Canada City']Tell me about it.

The weather was shitting rain for a few hours and the visibility was ridiculous.

Why the hell would someone who is flying a plane in the sky LAND at that time...I will never know.

Because planes can land via IFR (instrament flight Rules). I think the plane got hit by lightening and it interrupted the landing procedures that are normally accompanied via IFR landings.

Canada City']Tell me about it.

The weather was shitting rain for a few hours and the visibility was ridiculous.

Why the hell would someone who is flying a plane in the sky LAND at that time...I will never know.
All planes were landing as normal, so there really was no reason not to. It could have been that changes in wind direction made the plane take longer to touch down or that it aquaplaned once it did. So far it's not known what made go over the runway.

Because planes can land via IFR (instrament flight Rules). I think the plane got hit by lightening and it interrupted the landing procedures that are normally accompanied via IFR landings.
I don't think so. They seem to be pretty sure that the plane started having problems on the ground, or very near it. That would mean that the pilot must have already been in VFR (runway sighted).

Unless Toronto is ILS-3 certified, but I don't think so. Plus visibility wasn't down to 0.

I don't think so. They seem to be pretty sure that the plane started having problems on the ground, or very near it. That would mean that the pilot must have already been in VFR (runway sighted).

Unless Toronto is ILS-3 certified, but I don't think so. Plus visibility wasn't down to 0.

Ahh thanks :)

There was a bad thunder storm that got the plane off to a bad landing this plane is one of the safest planes but you never know what can happen I was in Toronto 10 days ago

Well I heard a passenger telling they ad a message from the captain telling the plane had a problem with one of the wheel, could explain why it went off once it was on the ground.

I don't think so. They seem to be pretty sure that the plane started having problems on the ground, or very near it. That would mean that the pilot must have already been in VFR (runway sighted).

Unless Toronto is ILS-3 certified, but I don't think so. Plus visibility wasn't down to 0.
Let's split hairs. I hate seeing aviation terms mis-applied.

IFR and VFR are different flight rules. Basically they establish the amount of control that ATC exerts on an aircraft. IFR flights are conducted in perfectly clear weather quite frequently. Sure, the slang usage of IFR and VFR usually mean IMC and VMC for Instrument or Visual Meterological Conditions, but that doesn't change the definitions.

An instrument landing usually continues to a landing when a visual sighting of the landing environment is made at a pre-defined altitude on a glide slope (Decision Height on a precision approach), or a combination of altitude(MDA) and distance from the runway, as in a non-precision approach. If the landing environment is in sight the descent can continue, otherwise the plane on approach must execute a missed approach.