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http://www.gamespot.com/xbox/action/bully/news_6130128.html

Okay, you can't tell me that this isn't where it's getting out of hand.

two busloads of Washington, DC schoolchildren will protest the game's release.
Mmm, parents exploiting their children.

It's pretty poorly covered that hot coffee is only availble through illegal user-made modifications, isn't it?

Also poorly covered is that youth crime rates have dropped steeply since the advent of electronic games.

It's pretty poorly covered that hot coffee is only availble through illegal user-made modifications, isn't it?
It was stated many times in the past.

Although this is perhaps their dozenth article on this whole Rockstar story the past three weeks. So they're probably sick of it and assume people already know that.

It was stated many times in the past.

Although this is perhaps their dozenth article on this whole Rockstar story the past three weeks. So they're probably sick of it and assume people already know that.

They should say it again. Most people protesting this stuff have no idea.

Personally I'd protest this crap too. You cross a line when you encourage violence against children like the next game is. If Rockstar insist on acting like this Jack Tompson will keep getting ammunition and he will become a real issue for us.

Not to mention that if you can find it, you can just as easily find porn made by Traci Lords when she was underage.

I was hoping Rockstar develops a game called 'Harassment', wherein fun-loving capitalist game developers are assaulted mercilessly by moronic lawyers with axes to grind.

Woah, I googled dead children, and look at all that gross stuff! Now I feel like going out and eating some babies.

I googled broccoli and now I love it! It's true! Seeing things makes you like them!

I want them to do a freeform version of the bible. Complete with incest mini-games. Run around kill and f everything. Angles, kids, daughters, sisters, slaves, animals whatever. The missions would be initiated in far off remote areas of the game, delivered by burning bushes, booming voices, whatever. Make it the most depraved entertainment that's possible to produce, but stick to the book. If it's so depraved some of the people working on it have to file stress claims, it's perfect. Anytime someone complains, "What? It's in the book?!"

Call it Mortal Sin: Genesis, the sequels would be named after bibical cities. That could be a great game.

I wonder if Jesus' nose was itchy while he was being crucified.

Gods, when will this massive display of sheer ignorance end?

Gods, when will this massive display of sheer ignorance end?
Wow, that's a brutal assessment of the thread contributions thus far, Drache. What can I say? We're trying, here...! :D

It's pretty poorly covered that hot coffee is only availble through illegal user-made modifications, isn't it?

In order to buy this feigned innocence defense one of two things has to be assumed-

Rockstar, a video game design company, actually had no idea there where things like Gamesharks that are sold at the same store their games are and honestly didn't believe that anyone in the video game community would pick around and find the minigame-and certainly had never heard of the internet or think that videogamers would dessiminate that information instantly all over the world. This makes them woefully ignorant of their own industry, comically so, and leads to questions about how they made it this far without someone selling them Magic Playstation Beans.

or

They knew full well that someone somewhere would be able to access that game, a minigame that would have increased their rating and removed them from big box retail shelves, and they thought they could get away with it. Perhaps even feign innocence when it was found.

I'm going to give Rockstar credit for knowing their own fucking industry.

Now, had they put that in the game and been upfront about it I would be saying "Fuck yeah theirs fuckin' in that game. I'm a grown ass man-I want grown ass games. Who says video games have to be all sports and collecting small cute animals? And if the fuckin' is your problem and not the fact that all I need to do to get a shotgun is break a cops neck and take his car, your priorities are fucked."

But they didn't. They tried to hide it. And then pretend that they didn't think anyone would find it? Bull-fucking-shit. After five volumnes of this game they finally gave the nannies something to hold onto. Make no mistake, it's not the content that did this, but the way the content was handled.

They should apologise to the industry they just harmed, and the industry should hang them out to dry. Be sure to thank them when all you get to play is Rubber Baby Bumper Challenge...

Can't you keep all this in one thread Colodia?

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox/action/bully/news_6130128.html

Okay, you can't tell me that this isn't where it's getting out of hand.

You really seem to have it in for this guy...

I can have two truckloads of "supplies" at your doorstep in 24 hours...Just make the check out to "Uncle Rasputin's Delivery Service".

If I ever meet this Thompson fellow, I'm going to buy him a beer. :p

I was hoping Rockstar develops a game called 'Harassment', wherein fun-loving capitalist game developers are assaulted mercilessly by moronic lawyers with axes to grind.

Now this would be an interesting game :)

If I ever meet this Thompson fellow, I'm going to buy him a beer. :p

Et tu...Lokiaa?

Et tu...Lokiaa?
Now, now. I'm not betraying anyone. I'm just buying a beer for a man who, even though he has no remarkable talent and just ended up in the right place at the right time, has earned my respect for criticizing video games I don't like. :p

Now, now. I'm not betraying anyone. I'm just buying a beer for a man who, even though he has no remarkable talent and just ended up in the right place at the right time, has earned my respect for criticizing video games I don't like. :p

I don't like Halo...I don't go around filing lawsuits that it should be banned...

I don't like Halo...I don't go around filing lawsuits that it should be banned...
Exactly. I mean, maybe having it re-rated AO wasn’t that bad, but actually banning a video game completely, just because you don’t the content, is pure authoritarianism.

I don't like Halo...I don't go around filing lawsuits that it should be banned...
Thompson isn't supporting a ban of this video game. Right now, a British based group obsessed with bullies is.

Now, now. I'm not betraying anyone. I'm just buying a beer for a man who, even though he has no remarkable talent and just ended up in the right place at the right time, has earned my respect for criticizing video games I don't like. :p

Id buy a beer for him too, he has courage in being high profile and going against the trend of just accepting everything the media throws down our throat without question.
If you don't think he has any talent, then I advise you to watch Breaker Morant, a great Aussie movie about the Boer war, in which he plays an army lawyer.

Jack Thompson also wants to ban The Sims 2 because of mods that take away the blur when the people take showers/change etc. that makes them look like virtual Ken and Barbie dolls. He's a nut.

What has America come to? Free Speech? Bullshit.

M-Rated, Mature, whatever you want to call it, this is not the game developers fault. The game was rated M. The game is named after stealing cars for crying out loud! Would you buy a game for your 12 year old kid called Murder or Rape? How about Assault and Battery? The thing is is that most mature rated games have some clue as to what the game is about. Halo= Some guy holding an assault rifle, with a war going on in the background. Grand Theft Auto= Mentioned before, the freaking name is a dead giveaway.

I think the problem is is that parents who buy these games don't really look at it before they buy, then blame the companies for their ignorance. In my opinion, the steady decline of society has been largely due to the fact that not many kids have whole and caring households. Divorce can do a lot of things, parents feeling guilty, kids feeling guilty. It leads to a lot of bad stuff, bullying, crime, more things no one should be doing. That ends my rant about this.

Now on to my next rant. "We have around four suicidal children contacting us every day." Maybe they wouldn't be suicidal if they had developed thick skin at an early age. But no, society has tried to get rid of bad feelings, low self-esteem, etc. There are schools in America that have abolished RED PENS because apparently, red is a bad color and is associated with failure. Well if you fail your test, it should represent failure. Tag is being replaced across America by a game called "Circle of Friends", where classmates sit around in a circle and discuss their feelings. What the hell? Bad feelings are part of life, of real life where people make money.
"Your school may have done away with winners and losers, but life has not. In some school, they have abolished failing grades and they'll give you as many times as you want to get the right answer. This doesn't bear the slightest resemblance to ANYTHING in real life."
-Bill Gates III, richest man in the world.
School is there to prepare you for what is out there and what may come. Bad feelings are there, but so far, most schools are failing to do that.

Along with protecting kids from any bad feeling they may experience, society is taking careful measures to protect kids from everything: violence, gore, sex, drugs, etc. And while the parents sit back and sue against anything that may be their fault, the internet (which is widely available to anyone) is largely made up of pornographic sites, which apparently, society has no problem with. Why? I’m guessing because of that handy little disclaimer at the beginning of most sites: Do no enter if you are under 18. I recall something similar in the videogame world: ESRB! The ratings board. If they find something that may be unsuitable for people under 17, they rate it M! If that’s not a disclaimer, I don't know what is! That little M in the lower left hand corner of the game box is saying: "This game has a lot of nasty things in it that most parents wouldn't want their kids to experience, depending on age and maturity. So, we recommend that this game is not suitable for young children; this is your only warning!

I am recognizing the fact that parents have a right to choose whether or not their kids should be playing games like GTA and Halo. And if they do, they need to realize it is their responsibility as a parent to ensure that their kid understands what he or she is doing, and understands that if you do this in real life, jail will be your new home. My parents did that when I was 8, and started playing Goldeneye 64. My dad handed me the controller, and said: This is a game, not real life. There is no reset button in real life. This game doesn't show the consequences of your actions. Do you understand?

What any parent should say. Ever since then, games have been a part of my life. Whenever I have a bad day, Vice City here I come, because "killing" 3D shapes in the shape of the school asshole is a whole lot better than actually lighting him on fire

My rant is over. Odds are, I'll never visit this post again, so if you feel like debating, my AIM Screen name is moosymoose56, I'm on during most evenings, CDT. Drop an IM if you hate me, drop one if you agree, or drop one in the toilet if you just had Taco Bell. I bid you good day.
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It is scary what the world is comming to, its to the point where the most conserivative people run the nation and the corporations just take the lead, they say nay and all obey... :(