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## ABC News: Guantanamo Trials Rigged

OceanDrive2
01-08-2005, 18:15
Leaked emails: Guantanamo trials rigged
Monday, August 1, 2005
Leaked emails from two former prosecutors claim the military commissions set up to try detainees at Guantanamo Bay are rigged, fraudulent, and thin on evidence against the accused.

Two emails, which have been obtained by ABC, were sent to supervisors in the Office of Military Commissions in March of last year - three months before Australian detainee David Hicks was charged and five months before his trial began.

The first email is from prosecutor Major Robert Preston to his supervisor.

Maj Preston writes that the process is perpetrating a fraud on the American people, and that the cases being pursued are marginal.

"I consider the insistence on pressing ahead with cases that would be marginal even if properly prepared to be a severe threat to the reputation of the military justice system and even a fraud on the American people," Maj Preston wrote.

"Surely they don't expect that this fairly half-arsed effort is all that we have been able to put together after all this time."

Maj Preston says he cannot continue to work on a process he considers morally, ethically and professionally intolerable.

"I lie awake worrying about this every night," he wrote.

"I find it almost impossible to focus on my part of mission.

"After all, writing a motion saying that the process will be full and fair when you don't really believe it is kind of hard, particularly when you want to call yourself an officer and lawyer."

Maj Preston was transferred out of the Office of Military Commissions less than a month later.
Rigged?

The second email is written by another prosecutor, Captain John Carr, who also ended up leaving the department.

Capt Carr says the commissions appear to be rigged.

"When I volunteered to assist with this process and was assigned to this office, I expected there would at least be a minimal effort to establish a fair process and diligently prepare cases against significant accused," he wrote.

"Instead, I find a half-hearted and disorganised effort by a skeleton group of relatively inexperienced attorneys to prosecute fairly low-level accused in a process that appears to be rigged."

Capt Carr says that the prosecutors have been told by the chief prosecutor that the panel sitting in judgment on the cases would be handpicked to ensure convictions.

"You have repeatedly said to the office that the military panel will be handpicked and will not acquit these detainees and that we only needed to worry about building a record for the review panel," he said.
Significant find

David Hicks' defence lawyer, Major Michael Mori, says the documents are "highly significant".

"For the first time, we're seeing that concerns about the fairness of the military commissions extend to the heart of the process," Maj Mori said.

David Hicks's father, Terry, says the latest revelations confirm what he has suspected all along.

"These commissions weren't set up to release people," he said.

"These commissions were set up to make sure they were prosecuted and get the time that they give them, and the other thing we've said all along, that we believe that this system has been rigged as they call it."

© 2005 ABC News.
Liverbreath
01-08-2005, 18:52
Well if anyone knows about "Rigging" it's ABC, that's for sure. Leading the pack in journalistic fraud of the year. I wonder if they would create evidence for this story too?
New Burmesia
01-08-2005, 19:06
If it's true, it wouldn't surprise me. But if you're a terrorist in the USA at least you have a trial, unlike here in the UK. :rolleyes:
Upitatanium
01-08-2005, 19:11
[NS]Liverbreath

Ad hominem. Knock it off.

OceanDrive

BTW link plz.

More info on the guy sending the e-mail would be good
OceanDrive2
01-08-2005, 21:44
Liverbreath']Well if anyone knows about "Rigging" it's ABC, that's for sure. Leading the pack in journalistic fraud of the year. I wonder if they would create evidence for this story too?
WTF???

What on earth could possibly make you say that?

can you even name ONE example?
OceanDrive2
01-08-2005, 21:56
ABC shall now and forever be known as the Anti-American Broadcasting Company. Am I right? :pThey are not anti American...AND they are not even Anti-Bush...

This event was interesting enough to be reported in the News.

*tranfered
Free Soviets
01-08-2005, 21:56
Liverbreath']Well if anyone knows about "Rigging" it's ABC, that's for sure. Leading the pack in journalistic fraud of the year. I wonder if they would create evidence for this story too?

dude, australian broadcasting corporation. australian.
OceanDrive2
01-08-2005, 21:58
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wait...let him soak himself on his piss...a little bit more. :D :D
Dobbsworld
01-08-2005, 21:59
Well if anyone knows about "Rigging" it's ABC, that's for sure. Leading the pack in journalistic fraud of the year. I wonder if they would create evidence for this story too?
dude, australian broadcasting corporation. australian.
Ohhhh, that's frickin' priceless. Wotta maroon!
Sumamba Buwhan
01-08-2005, 22:29
They are not anti American...AND they are not even Anti-Bush...

This event was interesting enough to be reported in the News.

*tranfered


:D I meant by the Bush-apologists. :p
Sumamba Buwhan
01-08-2005, 22:51
Guantanamo doesn't need to exist anyway.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/nation/terror/20030603-1514-terrortrial.html

There are terrorist convictions and information being gathered from them in real courts with real trials. What do we need Guantanamo for?
Dobbsworld
01-08-2005, 23:13
Well, to keep Castro in line, presumably.
The Lagonia States
01-08-2005, 23:18
No link, and the story is way too thin. Why exactly would anyone e-mail the details of this plot anyway?

This is almost like that fake talking points memo that was later found to be forged. It was obviously forged because no one would have written it down like that.
Sumamba Buwhan
01-08-2005, 23:24
Here's your link!

http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200508/s1426797.htm


Why does it looked forged? What way would they have had to of written it down to make you believe it's real?
OceanDrive2
01-08-2005, 23:34
What do we need Guantanamo for?
so we can sexually assault them damn islamists....I mean torture them...I mean interrogate them...

some of them could be AlQuaedas...you know?
Eden3
01-08-2005, 23:48
so we can sexually assault them damn islamists....I mean torture them...I mean interrogate them...

some of them could be AlQuaedas...you know?


If they are not AlQuaeda to begin with they sure as hell will be by the time they come out.