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Why did they pave paradise and put up a parking lot?

Jocabia
01-08-2005, 16:39
I was at the tree museum the other day and it cost $25. That's a lot of money. Don't it always seem to go that you don't know what you got till it's gone?
Free Soviets
01-08-2005, 16:56
because the tourists were complaining that it was too far to carry their "locally crafted wigets" back to their hotels
Unionista
01-08-2005, 16:58
I was at the tree museum the other day and it cost $25. That's a lot of money. Don't it always seem to go that you don't know what you got till it's gone?

Strange, I was led to believe it cost a dollar and a half to see them
Jocabia
01-08-2005, 17:01
Strange, I was led to believe it cost a dollar and a half to see them

Inflation, brother. (*ahem* different versions of the song*)
The Czardaian envoy
01-08-2005, 17:03
Strange, I was led to believe it cost a dollar and a half to see them
By whom?


Was he covered in mud and singing silly songs about bunnies?


If so I suspect....
OHidunno
01-08-2005, 17:05
I'm more concerned about that pink hotel, boutique and swinging hot spot.
Dobbsworld
01-08-2005, 17:05
I blame the big yellow taxis.
UberPenguinLand
01-08-2005, 17:06
The song goes, 'They paved paradise and they put up a parking lot?. Dang, I always heard it as, 'It ain't Paradise til they put up a parking lot'. Now it makes a lot more sense.
Legionis
01-08-2005, 17:08
The song goes, 'They paved paradise and they put up a parking lot?. Dang, I always heard it as, 'It ain't Paradise til they put up a parking lot'. Now it makes a lot more sense.

Counting crows just went from industrialist urbanites to tree huggers ;)
Unionista
01-08-2005, 17:09
The song goes, 'They paved paradise and they put up a parking lot?. Dang, I always heard it as, 'It ain't Paradise til they put up a parking lot'. Now it makes a lot more sense.

It's all so clear now isn't it :D

Did any one else hear that screen door slam last night? it was quite late :D
Drunk commies deleted
01-08-2005, 17:11
Paradise isn't cost effective. Parking lots generate more profit. Profit can be used to create newer and better forms of paradise.
Jocabia
01-08-2005, 17:12
It's all so clear now isn't it :D

Did any one else hear that screen door slam last night? it was quite late :D

I was more surprised to discover that I had an old man.
Dobbsworld
01-08-2005, 17:12
Paradise isn't cost effective. Parking lots generate more profit. Profit can be used to create newer and better forms of paradise.
Like... drive-thru windows? Offramps? Weigh stations? What?
Sileetris
01-08-2005, 17:13
I hate that song, it repeats that line way to much, you kinda get it after like the 4th time, but it just keeps going.......
New Sans
01-08-2005, 17:14
Paradise isn't cost effective. Parking lots generate more profit. Profit can be used to create newer and better forms of paradise.

Until the ultimate form of paradise is created the Parking lot paradise. Near misses, angry soccer moms, and never being able to get a parking spot in the front even through you got there extra early. Brilliance.
Unionista
01-08-2005, 17:14
I was more surprised to discover that I had an old man.

I trust he will be returning, possibly with some apples with spots on?
Drunk commies deleted
01-08-2005, 17:15
Like... drive-thru windows? Offramps? Weigh stations? What?
Like genetically modified foods that solve world hunger, cures for diseases, schools that educate the masses and contribute to the rise of civilization over savagery and more.

"Paradise" was highly overrated.
Jocabia
01-08-2005, 17:16
Paradise isn't cost effective. Parking lots generate more profit. Profit can be used to create newer and better forms of paradise.

Why couldn't the hotel be blue, which we know is more pacifying, because that pink is hurting my eyes? And the music at that swinging hot spot is just noise.
Unionista
01-08-2005, 17:17
Why couldn't the hotel be blue, which we know is more pacifying, because that pink is hurting my eyes? And the music at that swinging hot spot is just noise.

Relax, here have some cake.

Oh no, someone left it out in the rain :D
Jocabia
01-08-2005, 17:20
Relax, here have some cake.

Oh no, someone left it out in the rain :D

Dammit! I'll never have that recipe again.
Unionista
01-08-2005, 17:21
Dammit! I'll never have that recipe again.

It took ages to bake it as well !
Druids and Wizards
01-08-2005, 17:22
I was more surprised to discover that I had an old man.

Bob Dylan's version was better. No old man and no yellow taxi. Instead, a big yellow bulldozer took away the house and land. It fits so much better with the idea of paving over paradise.
Unionista
01-08-2005, 17:23
Perhaps we could take the rain damaged cake and some of teh spotty apples and combine the two to create the basis of a fruit trifle which we could then sell to the users of the car park :D
The Cleansed Ones
01-08-2005, 17:23
it was 30 dollars for me to see a giant hole in the ground. If the government had made it it would make a BIT of sense. But it was a rock that fell from the sky.
Myrmidonisia
01-08-2005, 17:24
Don't it always seem to go...
Unionista
01-08-2005, 17:25
Bob Dylan's version was better. No old man and no yellow taxi. Instead, a big yellow bulldozer took away the house and land. It fits so much better with the idea of paving over paradise.

Nothing Bob Dylan ever produced could ever be described as better than any alternative. The great whining self important tuneless scruffy hippy. :D
Jocabia
01-08-2005, 17:27
It took ages to bake it as well !

mmmmm... green icing.
Unionista
01-08-2005, 17:27
Nothing Bob Dylan ever produced could ever be described as better than any alternative. The great whining self important tuneless scruffy hippy. :D

Did I mention workshy as well?

What's wrong with working in Maggies farm? You've never done an honest days work in your life mr Dylan, and now you threaten to withdraw your labour? Get out in the real world and muck out those cowsheds. :D
The Czardaian envoy
01-08-2005, 17:31
Perhaps we could take the rain damaged cake and some of teh spotty apples and combine the two to create the basis of a fruit trifle which we could then sell to the users of the car park :DI sense a new socialization RP coming up..... <_< >_>
Unionista
01-08-2005, 17:42
Some people will pay up to $25 to look at a tree museum, so the going rate for fresh organic Apple trifle must be in excess of $50 a portion I would surmise.
Jocabia
01-08-2005, 17:51
Some people will pay up to $25 to look at a tree museum, so the going rate for fresh organic Apple trifle must be in excess of $50 a portion I would surmise.

Yeah, but you're going to have to pay $25 just to get into the tree museum and get yourself some spotted apples (not to be confused with spotted dick).
Jah Bootie
01-08-2005, 17:55
That parking lot did a lot to relieve traffic congestion in outer Paradise.
Grampus
01-08-2005, 17:56
What's wrong with working in Maggies farm?

The whole getting the boss's cigar stubbed out on your face malarky, perchance?
Jocabia
01-08-2005, 17:58
That parking lot did a lot to relieve traffic congestion in outer Paradise.

I disagree. Now everyone is driving into urban Paradise instead of using the Flower Power Bus Line as they used to. Almost every employee of the Pink Hotel now drives an SUV to work. Stupid parking lot.
Frangland
01-08-2005, 17:59
Paradise isn't cost effective. Parking lots generate more profit. Profit can be used to create newer and better forms of paradise.

Jobs comparison....

Paradise: 1 (park ranger or equivalent)... and several itinerant tree-hugging hippies nestled among the branches.

Parking Lot: Several, perhaps many -- parking lot crew to build and paint it. The parking lot has indirect effects on nearby businesses because it makes shopping at said businesses more convenient for John Q. Consumer... and if a bunch of Johns come in as new customers, owners of those businesses may decide to expand the work forces of their shops.

hehe -- Johns. Amsterdam, anyone?
Jocabia
01-08-2005, 18:01
Jobs comparison....

Paradise: 1 (park ranger or equivalent)... and several itinerant tree-hugging hippies nestled among the branches.

Parking Lot: Several, perhaps many -- parking lot crew to build and paint it. The parking lot has indirect effects on nearby businesses because it makes shopping at said businesses more convenient for John Q. Consumer... and if a bunch of Johns come in as new customers, owners of those businesses may decide to expand the work forces of their shops.

hehe -- Johns. Amsterdam, anyone?

Oh, come on, what do you think the main source of income at the "SWINGING" Hot Spot is?
Unionista
01-08-2005, 18:03
The whole getting the boss's cigar stubbed out on your face malarky, perchance?

A sorry accident, the boss's brother (who also offered him a tip of a nickel and a dime which was reasonable in the sixties) and then offered to SHARE his cigar, but Dylan, in a fit of jealousy, turned his head away and accidently caught the cigar on his chin. It's no more than a petulant spoiled brat refusing to work for what he wants. :D
Grampus
01-08-2005, 18:10
It's no more than a petulant spoiled brat refusing to work for what he wants. :D

It isn't a case of the young Mr. Zimmerman withdrawing his labour in an attempt to get better wages or improved working conditions: instead he is terminating his employment at the agricultural facility. Have you suddenly come over all Stalinist and decided that a worker should not be able to sell his labour to the highest bidder?
Unionista
01-08-2005, 18:25
It isn't a case of the young Mr. Zimmerman withdrawing his labour in an attempt to get better wages or improved working conditions: instead he is terminating his employment at the agricultural facility. Have you suddenly come over all Stalinist and decided that a worker should not be able to sell his labour to the highest bidder?

I have no objection to the operation of the free market vis-a-vis the erstwhile mr Zimmermann's employment, however he makes no suggestion as to his intentions, merely that he will no longer be working in agriculture. If he expects the rest of us to support him in his life as an itinerant troubadour I would be extremely sceptical about his work ethic.
Grampus
01-08-2005, 18:32
If he expects the rest of us to support him in his life as an itinerant troubadour I would be extremely sceptical about his work ethic.

Has it escaped your notice that at the very time that he is stating that he no longer works the soil for financial gain he is in fact already making a wage by contracting himself to a record company, rather than claiming social support?
Jah Bootie
01-08-2005, 18:33
Why do birds suddenly appear?
Jocabia
01-08-2005, 20:52
Why do birds suddenly appear?

It seems to be only when you're around? Why is that?
Unionista
01-08-2005, 21:28
It seems to be only when you're around? Why is that?

They seem (in common with myself) to want to be close to you

It's that or they want some of that trifle :D
Jah Bootie
01-08-2005, 21:35
If you're so smart, who wrote the book of love?

And why do fools fall in love?

And why does it always rain on me?
Jah Bootie
01-08-2005, 21:36
And who is the african american private investigator who has intense sexual relations with lots of women?
Unionista
01-08-2005, 21:59
So many questions, yet they seem to be designed to avoid the issue of Bob Dylan's employment. I notice we only have Grampus word for it that he was in fact gainfully employed under contract to a record label when he chose to forgo the honest, if poorly remunerated, toil of an agricultural labourer for the more glamorous lifestyle of a travelling musician. No mention of this can be found in his resignation letter, which I presume the popular melody "I aint gonna work on Maggies farm no more" to be.

I also notice that you seem to be trying to obfuscate the detail by your constant questions, and of course the mesmerising effects of the stardust in your hair and the moonlight in your eyes of blue, to the effect that my original point has almost been lost.

You stand accused of being in league with Dylan, no doubt receiving a part share in his dubious welfare claim. Answer that if you can. :D
Jocabia
01-08-2005, 22:05
And who is the african american private investigator who has intense sexual relations with lots of women?

I'm being forced to deal with crappy Microsoft Project. Why do I always ge the shaft? Can you dig it?
Jocabia
01-08-2005, 22:12
Dude, this morning right after I got up, I was a little out of it and tripped on a cloud and tore my mind on a jagged sky. I have the worst headache.
Grampus
01-08-2005, 22:13
No mention of this can be found in his resignation letter, which I presume the popular melody "I aint gonna work on Maggies farm no more" to be.

As McLuhan stated 'The Medium Is The Message: it is entirely true that no mention of the troubadour's current position appears in the text of the resignation message, however in order to deliver that message to his former employer he would have had to present them with a copy of his Bringing It All Back Home LP, which would have made the nature of his new livelihood self-evident.
Frangland
01-08-2005, 22:21
Oh, come on, what do you think the main source of income at the "SWINGING" Hot Spot is?

the sale of red lights?
Poliwanacraca
01-08-2005, 22:23
And who is the african american private investigator who has intense sexual relations with lots of women?

Shut yo' mouth!
Frangland
01-08-2005, 22:26
Originally Posted by Jah Bootie
And who is the african american private investigator who has intense sexual relations with lots of women?
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Detective Alex Cross of James Patterson's popular detective/crime series
Unionista
01-08-2005, 22:46
As McLuhan stated 'The Medium Is The Message: it is entirely true that no mention of the troubadour's current position appears in the text of the resignation message, however in order to deliver that message to his former employer he would have had to present them with a copy of his Bringing It All Back Home LP, which would have made the nature of his new livelihood self-evident.

So your hypothesis then would be that far from being a fraudulent welfare claimant the gentleman in question was in fact moonlighting whilst still under the employ of Maggie?

I hope the informed the relevant personnel within the Inland Revenue, and has made a full declaration of his income, secondary incomes as you will be aware are taxable at the maximum rate.
Grampus
01-08-2005, 23:32
So your hypothesis then would be that far from being a fraudulent welfare claimant the gentleman in question was in fact moonlighting whilst still under the employ of Maggie?

I hope the informed the relevant personnel within the Inland Revenue, and has made a full declaration of his income, secondary incomes as you will be aware are taxable at the maximum rate.

It appears that the fellow at the centre of this dispute earned a grand total of 15c (before fines) whilst employed by Maggie, and so it is probably best that his term as an agricultural labourer be considered as his secondary income, whereas his dabblings in the entertainment industry be considered his primary source of support. I am sure that the songwriter would be prepared to pay tax on this 15c (before fines) at the appropriate rate, and meet any outstanding levies incurred due to the length of time this case has taken to resolve.
Unionista
02-08-2005, 00:16
It appears that the fellow at the centre of this dispute earned a grand total of 15c (before fines) whilst employed by Maggie, and so it is probably best that his term as an agricultural labourer be considered as his secondary income, whereas his dabblings in the entertainment industry be considered his primary source of support. I am sure that the songwriter would be prepared to pay tax on this 15c (before fines) at the appropriate rate, and meet any outstanding levies incurred due to the length of time this case has taken to resolve.

I believe the 15c was more in the manner of a gratuity, rather than an actual wage, however in a spirit of forgiveness I will agree that so long as the outstanding taxes due on the 15c are paid to the relevant authorities within a reasonable time then nothing further need be mentioned on the subject.

May I, however, refer to Mr Dylan's third potential income stream. I refer, of course, to his meteorological services and specifically his assurances that a "Hard Rain's gonna fall". Very little actual information is forthcoming regarding the imminent precipitation, I trust he was paid on results, rather than a flat fee.

Perhaps someone could shed some light on the subject?