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Lets try this again, but without religion getting involved. Politics are okay if you stay civil. So, what stupid points have you heard made in debates?

"The U.S. is the best country because Europe is poor and immoral, Asia is full of Barbarians, and Africa is full of gangraping AIDs infected kids." I kid you not.

Lets try this again, but without religion getting involved. Politics are okay if you stay civil. So, what stupid points have you heard made in debates?

"The U.S. is the best country because Europe is poor and immoral, Asia is full of Barbarians, and Africa is full of gangraping AIDs infected kids." I kid you not.

Well, you have the reasons wrong, but you're right ;)

I hate it when you're arguing with someone, and they don't have an arguement in return so they attack your spelling. Irks me to no end :p

There's a long list but my biggest pet peave is the misplaced, misinterpreted, or mangled quote. Particularily:
Mussollini: "Facism is Corporatism" Besides thee fact that there is no documented instance in history of Benito ever saying this Corporatism as defined under Mussolini was a state syndicalist system based off of the guild system and has no relation to corporations as they actually exist today.

Neitzche: "God is dead" from thus spake Zarathustra. Completing the sentence, "God is dead and we have killed him" rather than advocating atheism per-say he contemplates the role of faith in the modern world.

MalcomX: "By any means necissary" from his autobiography and his speach after reconciling with MLK Malcom said that victory by any means necissarry was a defeat.

Ah and an excellent site about arguments online:
http://redwing.hutman.net/%7Emreed/

Okay, so I heard about this American debating tournament that some Canadians from my school went to a couple of years ago.

The resolution was that international laws should take precedence over the laws of individual countries. It was a high school tournament.

My debating coach judged one of the rounds.

Here were the arguments for and against:

For: America already does this and it's time for the rest of the world to do their part.

Against: America already does this, but it's hurting them because no other nation does.

As a Canadian who had seen the American government rebuked by international trade organizations for their abuse of NAFTA, by the international community for dropping out of the anti-ballistic missile treaty as well as not agreeing on international initiatives like the Kyoto protocol and the International Court of Justice while ignoring the UN over Iraq, I was suprised to say the least.

There are two that always come to my mind as causing me a great deal of irritation. It was probably because if the first failed, I knew I was beat when the second followed.

1) "Because I am your father and I said so"
2) "Because I am your father and I will kick your ass"

Stupid I thought, but damned effective for quite a few years.

There's a long list but my biggest pet peave is the misplaced, misinterpreted, or mangled quote. Particularily:
Mussollini: "Facism is Corporatism" Besides thee fact that there is no documented instance in history of Benito ever saying this Corporatism as defined under Mussolini was a state syndicalist system based off of the guild system and has no relation to corporations as they actually exist today.

Neitzche: "God is dead" from thus spake Zarathustra. Completing the sentence, "God is dead and we have killed him" rather than advocating atheism per-say he contemplates the role of faith in the modern world.

MalcomX: "By any means necissary" from his autobiography and his speach after reconciling with MLK Malcom said that victory by any means necissarry was a defeat.

Ah and an excellent site about arguments online:
http://redwing.hutman.net/%7Emreed/

This was informative.

Thank you.

How could we forget the classic, 'Well you're a Nazi/Hitler' or 'It's like the Holocaust'. Godwins Law, isn't it?

Some years ago, as Sweden was changing adoption laws to let gay couples adopt:

"What will little Johan tell his friends? That he has a daddy Lars and a mummy Anders?"

No, he'll tell them he has a daddy Lars and daddy Anders, you dolt! *sigh* :rolleyes:

This was informative.

Thank you.

The quotes or the link? If it was the quotes click the link!

How about: "You can't prove what you believe, which is proof of what I believe."

Often used in the interminable religion vs. atheism threads that infect this forum. (See previous thread on this topic for examples.)

Neitzche[sic]: "God is dead" from thus spake Zarathustra. Completing the sentence, "God is dead and we have killed him" rather than advocating atheism per-say he contemplates the role of faith in the modern world.
Nietzsche... if you don't allow that quote, we can't say "Nietzsche is dead" -God either though...

Anyway, I hate it when people don't answer your question, and when you tell them they didn't, they say they did. When you respond to that, tell them what they said, and then say what it was you asked in the first place and they still don't answer your question, THAT really bugs me.

Nietzsche... if you don't allow that quote, we can't say "Nietzsche is dead" -God either though...
Sure you can...

"Nietzsche is dead, and I killed him. Got a problem with that?" - God

:p

"God works in mysterious ways."
"Because I said so."
"Because it's the law."
"It's in the Constitution/rules/whatever."
"Stop shouting at me." (or something of the kind)
"Hahaha you spelled 'terpsichorean' wrong." (or something of the kind)
Or just not answering when I make a valid point that disproves theirs.

As an experienced debater I know a lot about this ;)