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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050729/ap_on_he_me/breast_implants

"Women who have sought the return of the product say silicone-gel implants look and feel more natural than the salt water-filled implants sold without restriction..."
Why couldn't I be part of the study that figured THAT out!



"The implants largely have been exonerated of concerns that they might cause serious or chronic illnesses such as cancer or lupus."

Does this mean, then, that the women who received judgements against manufacturers with what is apparently debunked health claims are going to have to give the money back now?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050729/ap_on_he_me/breast_implants

"Women who have sought the return of the product say silicone-gel implants look and feel more natural than the salt water-filled implants sold without restriction..."
Why couldn't I be part of the study that figured THAT out!



"The implants largely have been exonerated of concerns that they might cause serious or chronic illnesses such as cancer or lupus."

Does this mean, then, that the women who received judgements against manufacturers with what is apparently debunked health claims are going to have to give the money back now?



Why won't people just accept the body God gave them? :headbang:

Why won't people just accept the body God gave them? :headbang:
Well, what do you know? Something we can almost agree on: my stance is that it would be best if people would love and accept the body they were born with, for everyone is beautiful, but if THEY, not society or friends or significant others or whatever, want to "improve" their appearance through plastic surgery, well, at least they made the decision to do something about it.

Because Men won't. :rolleyes: Sad but true, Men are Boob-obsessed because they don't have to lug two fat sacks about

My friend CD had just dumped a guy that want her to loose weight, and have her boobies balloned.

It don't work like that.

Because Men won't. :rolleyes: Sad but true, Men are Boob-obsessed because they don't have to lug two fat sacks about

My friend CD had just dumped a guy that want her to loose weight, and have her boobies balloned.

It don't work like that.

All you need is a handful :p

Why won't people just accept the body God gave them? :headbang:
Because not everyone believes in God

I declare myself the winner by default

All you need is a handful :p


quite right, more than a handful is a waste.

All you need is a handful :p

Exactly! If you can't hold a boob in one hand, chances are it's too frikkin' big.

Not to mention the surgery boobs look fake.

BTW -- I went to a lingerie store and saw not only padded bras, but also padded panties to give one a more shapely ass.

Can you imagine the guy's reaction if he got down with a girl wearing both padded bra and panties? :fluffle: :confused: :eek:

Yes I am female.

Because Men won't. :rolleyes: Sad but true, Men are Boob-obsessed because they don't have to lug two fat sacks about


It would then stand to reason that women who do this are obsessed with boob-obsessed men.

quite right, more than a handful is a waste.Hey!
Having small tits is cool; women shouldn't feel the need to undergo major surgery to increase their breast size. But please don't bash big tits to make all the flat chicks feel better.

Exactly! If you can't hold a boob in one hand, chances are it's too frikkin' big.As the proud owner of three handfulls (six if you count both breasts), I object to that comment. There is no such thing as "too small", but there is not "too big" either.

Hey!
Having small tits is cool; women shouldn't feel the need to undergo major surgery to increase their breast size. But please don't bash big tits to make all the flat chicks feel better.

I bash 'em cause I got 'em naturally, and they are NOT all fun and games, I'm afraid.

come on guys, if you like boobs so much, try carrying mine around for a week.

It's too big when it starts to hurt your back. (like mine does... OW :( )

I bash 'em cause I got 'em naturally, and they are NOT all fun and games, I'm afraid.

come on guys, if you like boobs so much, try carrying mine around for a week.If your boobs are causing you grief, you need a better bra, or you need to speak to your personal trainer about some lower-back exercises.

I bash 'em cause I got 'em naturally, and they are NOT all fun and games, I'm afraid.

come on guys, if you like boobs so much, try carrying mine around for a week.

It's too big when it starts to hurt your back. (like mine does... OW :( )
you know, i've never really before considered what an inconvencience having boobs must be...

aw thats taken some of the fun away now :(

If your boobs are causing you grief, you need a better bra, or you need to speak to your personal trainer about some lower-back exercises.

Got the bras, and personal trainers are rather expensive for someone just out of high school.

Just saying I like to find some normal bras my size that aren't pokey underwires that hurt, or padded (Padded 34DD?!) without having to special order them (I got the kind that make my breasts look smaller and can actually support it without wire)

Hey!
Having small tits is cool; women shouldn't feel the need to undergo major surgery to increase their breast size. But please don't bash big tits to make all the flat chicks feel better.

sorry, just personal preference.

you know, i've never really before considered what an inconvencience having boobs must be...

aw thats taken some of the fun away now :(

my girlfreind walked into a door the other day, and somehow her breasticles were the first things that came into contact. ouch. of course i offered to kiss them better, but she said she would survive.

It would then stand to reason that women who do this are obsessed with boob-obsessed men.
I think that possibly created a paradox.

I bash 'em cause I got 'em naturally, and they are NOT all fun and games, I'm afraid.

come on guys, if you like boobs so much, try carrying mine around for a week.

It's too big when it starts to hurt your back. (like mine does... OW :( )

Not sure if I can take a week, but maybe an hour or so.... :)


-JK. I understand there is plenty of info online about this. I hear that excersize and posture can do wonders...

Got the bras, and personal trainers are rather expensive for someone just out of high school.One or two sessions won't break the bank, and the trainer will show you which exercises will help you out, and you can continue on your own after that. I'm still in highschool, and I did it in gr. 9 (I was still only a DD, but the things I learned that helped me then help me even now, and several sizes larger).

Just saying I like to find some normal bras my size that aren't pokey underwires that hurt, or padded (Padded 34DD?!) without having to special order them (I got the kind that make my breasts look smaller and can actually support it without wire)34DD is big, but normal big; you should be able to find good bras in stores, but if not, check this (http://www.figleaves.com/us/) out. Also make sure you're wearing the right size.

Because Men won't. :rolleyes: Sad but true, Men are Boob-obsessed because they don't have to lug two fat sacks about

My friend CD had just dumped a guy that want her to loose weight, and have her boobies balloned.

It don't work like that.

Ok, we'll give up being obssessed with larger breasts if you girls give up being obsessed with larger dicks, deal?

Ok, we'll give up being obssessed with larger breasts if you girls give up being obsessed with larger dicks, deal?No deal. I like breast-obsessed men, anyway.

Ok, we'll give up being obssessed with larger breasts if you girls give up being obsessed with larger dicks, deal?

Funny, now that I think about it. I know a number of men who don't care at all for big boobs. But I wouldn't know a girl who prefers smaller dicks :D

Funny, now that I think about it. I know a number of men who don't care at all for big boobs. But I wouldn't know a girl who prefers smaller dicks :DTrue story. Truely breast-obsessed men like all breasts.

It would then stand to reason that women who do this are obsessed with boob-obsessed men.

*Snickers* Right though! I mean, I'm boy crazy and all, but, not enough to do any surgery. Tons of guys are aready attracted to me because I act like one of the gang, but, as one guy told me over the phone, "Your cute. No, think of yourself as cuter then cute." No, I'm not lying. A guy I met a couple times told me that. Plus my ex called me hot a few times.

But seriously, why do people ruin their bodies with surgeries? I could see it as ok if they had to do it due to health riskes from their body parts, but, why would they do it other wise?

As the proud owner of three handfulls (six if you count both breasts), I object to that comment. There is no such thing as "too small", but there is not "too big" either.

I quite disagree, a woman with breasts that are 'too big' looks ummm... well... it's like if someone had a nose that was three times normal size or something, any way you look at it, it's just not pretty.

No offense, but there were one or two pictures posted in the 'babe thread' that had a few of the guys here fawning, and most of the rest say, 'well, she looks deformed'.

But seriously, why do people ruin their bodies with surgeries? I could see it as ok if they had to do it due to health riskes from their body parts, but, why would they do it other wise?

Well, some people have body dysmorphic disorder(?) and do genuinely ruin their bodies, but some people want;

- larger breasts
- a smaller nose
- ear rings
- a nice hair cut
- a manicure
- to use makeup

Do you use makeup? Do you have ear piercings?

It's all on the same scale, I mean, rubbing crushed up red rocks into your cheeks so you can look pretty... who the hell thought that one up?

Do you like having a sun tan because it makes you prettier? We all know that having one of those gives you extra wrinkles DECADES early, but everyone does it regardless...

Give me plastic titties now!

Actually I'm a guy, give me a plastic doo-dah.

Ahh heck, just give me both.

Got the bras, and personal trainers are rather expensive for someone just out of high school.

Just saying I like to find some normal bras my size that aren't pokey underwires that hurt, or padded (Padded 34DD?!) without having to special order them (I got the kind that make my breasts look smaller and can actually support it without wire)

Everyone I know who had large boobs has HAD to have reduction surgery and couldn't wait for it. Eventually, the back pain becomes back PROBLEMS, and pain in the shoulders from bras, and sagging from the size. It's a medical issue because it is painful to the back and ruins your posture. Not to mention looks unproportional. Insurance will pay for it in these situations.

Hey I've got a question.

You give a man certain hormone suppliments (prolactin springs to mind), then he grows breasts. Take away the suppliments and his chest gradually returns to its natural state.

Is there any reason noone's made a breast enlargement pill? Hell, maybe it already exists? Or are continual hormone suppliments dangerous?

Hey I've got a question.

You give a man certain hormone suppliments (prolactin springs to mind),
I think that generally it is something like Premarin or Progesterone that is used,at least if you are talking about the person deliberately trying to change their secondary sex characteristics.
then he grows breasts. Take away the suppliments and his chest gradually returns to its natural state.
I believe that after a certain point, some changes are permanent. That is what I was told at least.
Is there any reason noone's made a breast enlargement pill? Hell, maybe it already exists? Or are continual hormone suppliments dangerous?
Well, the thing is that the hormones that can make someone biologically male grow breats are the female hormones which their body only contains in small amounts normally. Females alrady have female sex hormones, otherwise they wouldn't have grown breasts in the first place. So using the hormones woudl not work, from my understanding. And also there's the fact that messing around with hormone levels isn't altogether wonderfully healthy.

As for breast enlargement pills, there are a few companies that claim to have designed them, but I somehow doubt that they really work as well as described, if at all.

Women already have enough hormone related problems! PMS springs to mind... Messing w/female hormones is a difficult business and it would be different for every woman. Too much estrogen, other health risks. I think it can't be done without putting a woman's life in danger. Cancer/heart/areteries... etc.

I quite disagree, a woman with breasts that are 'too big' looks ummm... well... it's like if someone had a nose that was three times normal size or something, any way you look at it, it's just not pretty.

No offense, but there were one or two pictures posted in the 'babe thread' that had a few of the guys here fawning, and most of the rest say, 'well, she looks deformed'.wow
Like, wow.
What makes you think that insulting any chick based on her appearance is ok, ever? Saying "no offense" before you insult chicks with big tits (when you already know that I have them)does not make your comment less offensive.
I would like an apology.

Everyone I know who had large boobs has HAD to have reduction surgery and couldn't wait for it. Eventually, the back pain becomes back PROBLEMS, and pain in the shoulders from bras, and sagging from the size. It's a medical issue because it is painful to the back and ruins your posture. Not to mention looks unproportional. Insurance will pay for it in these situations.Hello.
My name is Maggie. *shakes hand*
Now you know someone with large breasts who does not want or need a breast reduction. :)

I don't really care that much about breasts. Big ones are good but not really what I focus on.

wow
Like, wow.
What makes you think that insulting any chick based on her appearance is ok, ever? Saying "no offense" before you insult chicks with big tits (when you already know that I have them)does not make your comment less offensive.
I would like an apology.

When a 'chick' has crammed silicone equivilent to three times the size of her head into each breast, then yes she looks deformed.

That's why I said no offense, since I wasn't talking about you but about those aforementioned silicone filled body dysmorphics.

Three handfulls isn't anything close to the extreme size I was talking about, but I'm sorry if I offended you personally.


EDIT: I happen to like large breasts incidentally, nearly as much as I like hips (Yes I'm a 'hip' man, haha), just not giant silly looking ones that are obviously fakes.

I think it is fairly safe to say that as long as there are insecure women, there will be doctors with procedures that will make them feel better.
The problem arises when you get the procedure, and your life doesn't become magically better like you thought it would. Like, sure you have bigger breasts now, but are you still a pain in the arse? 'Cause no surgery is going to make that better.
Bearable for a while maybe, but not better! :D

When a 'chick' has crammed silicone equivilent to three times the size of her head into each breast, then yes she looks deformed.

That's why I said no offense, since I wasn't talking about you but about those aforementioned silicone filled body dysmorphics.

Three handfulls isn't anything close to the extreme size I was talking about, but I'm sorry if I offended you personally.


EDIT: I happen to like large breasts incidentally, nearly as much as I like hips (Yes I'm a 'hip' man, haha), just not giant silly looking ones that are obviously fakes.Thanks for clearing up my misunderstanding. I agree that fake breasts are not the most attractive things on the planet; I hate it when a woman's breasts don't "move", or look natural. However, I support a woman's right to modify her body, even if I really don't agree with it.

I think it is fairly safe to say that as long as there are insecure women, there will be doctors with procedures that will make them feel better.It's not just for girls anymore.
http://www.drman.com/male_cosmetic_surgery.html

too true!

I'm gonna get some minor work done to remove two large moles from my head (They're a good centimetre and a half across each) so I'd be a hypocrite if I didn't support at least some cosmetic surgery, but it can very easily be taken too far. So I support sensibly proportioned cosmetic surgery, whatever the specific operation... though I've yet to hear about hip/pelvis bone structure cosmetic surgery so my particular attractant is safe from fakery!

I think... :rolleyes:

I'm gonna get some minor work done to remove two large moles from my head (They're a good centimetre and a half across each) so I'd be a hypocrite if I didn't support at least some cosmetic surgery, but it can very easily be taken too far. So I support sensibly proportioned cosmetic surgery, whatever the specific operation... though I've yet to hear about hip/pelvis bone structure cosmetic surgery so my particular attractant is safe from fakery!

I think... :rolleyes:I have heard of ass implants, though. :confused:

That's true, some cosmetic surgery can be very helpful for things like cleft palates, deviated septum etc. etc.

One of my favorite websites is http://www.awfulplasticsurgery.com/
You can really see how people screw themselves up.

I have heard of ass implants, though. :confused:

Heee, people are funny.

'now remember, don't ever sit down too hard, or onto pointed objects'

*pop*

Heee, people are funny.

'now remember, don't ever sit down too hard, or onto pointed objects'

*pop*That can actually happen. :eek:

One of my favorite websites is http://www.awfulplasticsurgery.com/
You can really see how people screw themselves up. True story. Michael Jackson used to be hot.

That can actually happen. :eek:

Yikes!

True story. Michael Jackson used to be hot.
Yikes!

Yikes!

Yikes!He was!!! This is a long time ago. Like, before I was born. But I've seen pictures, and I'd so totally tap that.
I'm talking about before he got all white and freaky-looking.

EDIT : Need sleep Talk Backwards Good Not!

quite right, more than a handful is a waste.

Don't you think it's rather insulting to women with larger breasts to refer to part of their breasts as 'a waste'?

Don't you think it's rather insulting to women with larger breasts to refer to part of their breasts as 'a waste'?My night in shiny armour! :fluffle:
Took you long enough, though. :p
It is insulting. I happen to like my breasts. Just because they are bigger than can be encompassed by your hands does not mean they are a "waste". They are not here solely for your pleasure.

hmmm, perhaps we should take things down a notch...I don't think anyone meant to be insulting, it's just that I think men like breasts so much that when they cannot encompass them, the leftovers are 'wasted' as in not used, not like trash. At least that's how I look at it. I hope you don't feel like I'm being condescending, I just don't think anyone meant any insults. :)

Ok, just to warn you, everybody may be offended by this comment. What is the point of having breasts anyway? Basically, they're extra body fat. You don't need them to supply milk (obviously), and that's the main evolutionary point of breasts. I mean, you don't see other animals walking around with big lumps of fat on their chests (more of them, too!), and that's basically what breasts are. Round lumps of fat.
You can tell from this comment that I'm growing breasts, and it's quite painful.

It's rather like saying part of my penis is wasted when it doesn't go in completely. I find that pretty insulting too.

Ok, just to warn you, everybody may be offended by this comment. What is the point of having breasts anyway? Basically, they're extra body fat. You don't need them to supply milk (obviously), and that's the main evolutionary point of breasts. I mean, you don't see other animals walking around with big lumps of fat on their chests (more of them, too!), and that's basically what breasts are. Round lumps of fat.
You can tell from this comment that I'm growing breasts, and it's quite painful.


Ummm, actually you do need them to supply milk if you're breastfeeding a baby...which I am. Sure there is formula, but there is also a mortality rate associated with formula.

Plus, evidence is coming out that breastfeeding can help prevent women from getting breast cancer. Use 'em or lose 'em!

All mammals have mammary glands. That's why we're called mammals. Animals usually walk on four feet not two, so theirs evolved differently, but they're there.

Yeah.. I guess all those women were just faking it....all this nasty jelly looking stuff floating around..nah that wont cause any problems...no we dont know where that rare cancer came from...but we know that it wasnt that silicone clinging to that spot...grrrrr.... Implants do have some purposes though ( i do have one implant my stupid boobs were assymetrical one B and one D) I havent had any problems but I do think the silicone ones are bad news. Anybody who needs size EEE is a peabrain and their boobs are bigger than their brain and they just look nasty! Some of these idiots claim they are natural when you can see how tight the skin is and the outlines of the implants right there. :headbang:

Ok, just to warn you, everybody may be offended by this comment. What is the point of having breasts anyway? Basically, they're extra body fat. You don't need them to supply milk (obviously), and that's the main evolutionary point of breasts. I mean, you don't see other animals walking around with big lumps of fat on their chests (more of them, too!), and that's basically what breasts are. Round lumps of fat.
You can tell from this comment that I'm growing breasts, and it's quite painful.

Surrogate buttocks on the front of your body to attract males.

Edit: And to prevent a baby from smothering when it's drinking from them.

Surrogate buttocks on the front of your body to attract males.

Edit: And to prevent a baby from smothering when it's drinking from them.that's lovely.

Anybody who needs size EEE is a peabrain and their boobs are bigger than their brain and they just look nasty! Some of these idiots claim they are natural when you can see how tight the skin is and the outlines of the implants right there. :headbang:Hey!
Again with the big boob bashing.
I came by mine naturally, and they're wonderful.
fyi: E=DD, EEE=DDDD=G. It's not as big as it sounds.

Hey!
Again with the big boob bashing.
I came by mine naturally, and they're wonderful.
fyi: E=DD, EEE=DDDD=G. It's not as big as it sounds.

Whoops...sorry! Mine DD unfortunately. IM more referring to those girls I have seen on Jerry Springer and other trashy shows where they are showing them off and geez..the skin is so tight they look like they want to bust open. Sorry... the natural ones cant be helped. ((those girls are unnaturally HUGE!! and that dumb Pamela Anderson... no she has them...now she dont!))

Whoops...sorry! Mine DD unfortunately. IM more referring to those girls I have seen on Jerry Springer and other trashy shows where they are showing them off and geez..the skin is so tight they look like they want to bust open. Sorry... the natural ones cant be helped. ((those girls are unnaturally HUGE!! and that dumb Pamela Anderson... no she has them...now she dont!))Now I'm nit-picking, but please don't call a woman dumb because she does or does not have implants. Pammy is my hero. Canadian, vegan, animal rights activist, hep-C spokeswoman, single mother....
She rocks my socks.

that's lovely.
But very, very true.
Isn’t natural selection/God/Allah/insert your opinion on the origin of species here great? :D

Now I'm nit-picking, but please don't call a woman dumb because she does or does not have implants. Pammy is my hero. Canadian, vegan, animal rights activist, hep-C spokeswoman, single mother....
She rocks my socks.

Still a bit dim, though...
But hey, aren't we all?

'teats' are nessesary for feeding babies... 'breasts' are not.

Milk is only produced in a very small area of the breast, the rest is mostly just fat that, yep you guessed it, men are genetically predisposed to find attractive.

It's like a peacock and his tail feathers, or a thrush and his song, it's just a very obvious way in which human females can attract a man and is not in fact nessesary for feeding babies.

I thought Boobs were nice the way they already are. :confused:

'teats' are nessesary for feeding babies... 'breasts' are not.

Milk is only produced in a very small area of the breast, the rest is mostly just fat that, yep you guessed it, men are genetically predisposed to find attractive.

It's like a peacock and his tail feathers, or a thrush and his song, it's just a very obvious way in which human females can attract a man and is not in fact nessesary for feeding babies.

Well if humans didnt have access to similac, etc. then Yes the breasts would be required ..so the breasts are still required biologically ...it qualifies us as a mammal. OH and on Pamela.. I just dont like the way she conducts herself almost 40 and dressed like a 17 yr old and redating someone who beat her and almost hit her child...not bright. Pretty flighty would have been better term. But still I think its cool to respect her positions.

OH and on Pamela.. I just dont like the way she conducts herself almost 40 and dressed like a 17 yr old...She looks better in those clothes than most of the 17 year olds who wear them do.