NationStates Jolt Archive


Grammatical Mistakes

Katiepwnzistan
30-07-2005, 16:15
Our President makes so many mistakes when publicly speaking. Anyone have favorites? Mine would be "nuculer power pants" instead of "nuclear power plants".
Ancient Valyria
30-07-2005, 16:31
is our children learning?
The Gaelic Empire
30-07-2005, 18:23
my favorite is when he says,"The baby boomers are getting older,trust me I was the baby boom." Or something to that affect.
Laerod
30-07-2005, 18:26
On a side note, did any of you know that the German word for "misspeaking" is spelled almost exactly like the German word for "promise"?
Jibea
30-07-2005, 18:32
Our President makes so many mistakes when publicly speaking. Anyone have favorites? Mine would be "nuculer power pants" instead of "nuclear power plants".

That is not a grammatical mistake. It has perfect grammar, but it makes no sense when spoken. Just like madlibs, they sound nonsensical, but are grammatically correct.

Didn't JFK say
Ich ben ein Benginer(SP?)-I am a jelly donut
instead of
Ich ben ein Berliner.-I am a Berliner
PersonalHappiness
30-07-2005, 18:33
On a side note, did any of you know that the German word for "misspeaking" is spelled almost exactly like the German word for "promise"?

Yes.
PersonalHappiness
30-07-2005, 18:37
Just some of them:

"I'm looking forward to a good night's sleep on the soil of a friend." —George W. Bush, on visiting Denmark, Washington D.C., June 29, 2005

"I was going to say he's a piece of work, but that might not translate too well. Is that all right, if I call you a 'piece of work'?" —George W. Bush to Jean-Claude Juncker, prime minister of Luxembourg, Washington, D.C., June 20, 2005

"The relations with, uhh — Europe are important relations, and they've, uhh — because, we do share values. And, they're universal values, they're not American values or, you know — European values, they're universal values. And those values — uhh — being universal, ought to be applied everywhere." —George W. Bush, at a press conference with European Union dignitaries, Washington, D.C., June 20, 2005
"You see, not only did the attacks help accelerate a recession, the attacks reminded us that we are at war." —George W. Bush, on the Sept. 11 attacks, Washington, D.C., June 8, 2005



--> http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/blbushisms.htm



"They misunderestimated me." :rolleyes:
Neo Rogolia
30-07-2005, 18:37
A reminder to all: He's a president, not a professional orator.
Tannenmille
30-07-2005, 18:39
Didn't JFK say
Ich ben ein Benginer(SP?)-I am a jelly donut
instead of
Ich ben ein Berliner.-I am a Berliner

He said "Ich bin ein Berliner." which translates as "I am a citizen of Berlin" but not in a literal sense. It was correct grammatically for both "I am a citizen of Berlin" and "I am a jelly doughnut" but everyone listening to his speech knew he didn't mean a jelly doughnut. "Ich bin Berliner" is the phrase that literally means "I am a citizen of Berlin" if I recall correctly.
Laerod
30-07-2005, 18:41
That is not a grammatical mistake. It has perfect grammar, but it makes no sense when spoken. Just like madlibs, they sound nonsensical, but are grammatically correct.

Didn't JFK say
Ich ben ein Benginer(SP?)-I am a jelly donut
instead of
Ich ben ein Berliner.-I am a Berliner
He said "Ich bin ein Berliner." Berliner also denotes a jelly filled donut in the Berlin area. It's called a "Krapfen" in Bavaria and a "Pfannkuchen" in Brandenburg. There's no such thing as a "Benginer".
Pacanth
30-07-2005, 18:44
That is not a grammatical mistake. It has perfect grammar, but it makes no sense when spoken. Just like madlibs, they sound nonsensical, but are grammatically correct.

Didn't JFK say
Ich ben ein Benginer(SP?)-I am a jelly donut
instead of
Ich ben ein Berliner.-I am a Berliner

I think JFK's mistake actually was grammatical - not incorrect grammar but grammar that changes the meaning of the sentence. He said "Ich ben ein Berliner" but he should have said "Ich ben Berliner." A Berliner is a person from Berlin, but also a jelly doughnut. Indistinguishable in English, but adding the definitive article changed the meaning of his sentence in German. Wonder what would have happened if he'd made that speech in Frankfurt or Hamburg? Heh.
Canada6
30-07-2005, 18:44
A reminder to all: He's a president, not a professional orator.Oxymorons aside... He's neither.
Laerod
30-07-2005, 18:46
He said "Ich bin ein Berliner." which translates as "I am a citizen of Berlin" but not in a literal sense. It was correct grammatically for both "I am a citizen of Berlin" and "I am a jelly doughnut" but everyone listening to his speech knew he didn't mean a jelly doughnut. "Ich bin Berliner" is the phrase that literally means "I am a citizen of Berlin" if I recall correctly.Nah. "Ich bin ein Berliner" is just as common as "Ich bin Berliner". More common would be to say that you're from Berlin. But "ein" also means "one" so the connotation also makes you a part of the city and heightens the feeling of a common background... in a way. I'd certainly use that variation in a speech rather than the other, it has more emphasis.
PersonalHappiness
30-07-2005, 19:03
A reminder to all: He's a president, not a professional orator.

In my opinion, a president has to be a professional orator. :rolleyes:
PersonalHappiness
30-07-2005, 19:07
Wonder what would have happened if he'd made that speech in Frankfurt or Hamburg? Heh.

Ich bin ein Hamburger :D


Ich bin ein Frankfurter would be good, too, although I don't like those sausages... ;)
Occhia
30-07-2005, 19:08
"My views are one that speaks to freedom" - from the poster on my wall.
PersonalHappiness
30-07-2005, 19:15
I think, Bush once said something about fish and humans living together in peace... :confused:
Neo Rogolia
30-07-2005, 19:17
I think, Bush once said something about fish and humans living together in peace... :confused:



Are you sure? That sounds more like something Clinton would say :confused:
Neo Rogolia
30-07-2005, 19:19
Oxymorons aside... He's neither.



Tell that to the American public, congress, and the rest of the world.
Neo Rogolia
30-07-2005, 19:21
In my opinion, a president has to be a professional orator. :rolleyes:



I think Hitler proved that oral aptitude doesn't make one a good leader ;)
PersonalHappiness
30-07-2005, 19:28
I think Hitler proved that oral aptitude doesn't make one a good leader ;)

Right. I wanted to point out that a leader has to have many qualities, among them oral aptitude, but many others, too.
PersonalHappiness
30-07-2005, 19:36
Are you sure? That sounds more like something Clinton would say :confused:

"I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully."

- G.W. Bush


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Canada6
30-07-2005, 19:45
Tell that to the American public, congress, and the rest of the world.The rest of the world and the American public, minus the 51% (of voters) that voted for him, don't consider him to be a president. At least one that's worthy of such a title.
Neo Rogolia
30-07-2005, 19:53
The rest of the world and the American public, minus the 51% (of voters) that voted for him, don't consider him to be a president. At least one that's worthy of such a title.



Then I wonder why the welcome him and address him as the president when he visits their nations? Some people might say he's not a good president, but he is still a president, as much as Carter and Clinton were.
PersonalHappiness
30-07-2005, 20:12
Then I wonder why the welcome him and address him as the president when he visits their nations? Some people might say he's not a good president, but he is still a president, as much as Carter and Clinton were.


1. hospitality. politeness. duteousness...

2. You are right. He IS president. Wether he is a GOOD president or not, does not matter in this case.
Canada6
30-07-2005, 20:16
Then I wonder why the welcome him and address him as the president when he visits their nations? He is welcome by nation's leaders, not by the populace.
Some people might say he's not a good president, but he is still a president, as much as Carter and Clinton were.Actually I'm not a big fan of Carter.
Angry Fruit Salad
30-07-2005, 20:37
I have decided that Bush was elected for one reason -- the alternative was equally stupid. Face it -- we were completely screwed in the last election.
Cabra West
30-07-2005, 20:41
I have decided that Bush was elected for one reason -- the alternative was equally stupid. Face it -- we were completely screwed in the last election.

Same thing happened in Germany a lot over the last 2 decades.... why do you think Kohl was in charge for 16 years? And why do you think Schroeder made the last election? No alternative, that's why.
Angry Fruit Salad
30-07-2005, 20:43
Same thing happened in Germany a lot over the last 2 decades.... why do you think Kohl was in charge for 16 years? And why do you think Schroeder made the last election? No alternative, that's why.


It happens.
Neo Rogolia
30-07-2005, 20:45
Same thing happened in Germany a lot over the last 2 decades.... why do you think Kohl was in charge for 16 years? And why do you think Schroeder made the last election? No alternative, that's why.



Oh, so it's not like the Germans were very supportive of Schröeder? That's a relief lol.
Cabra West
30-07-2005, 20:48
Oh, so it's not like the Germans were very supportive of Schröeder? That's a relief lol.

Well, at least they didn't fall for the deep-south, right-winged, Christian nutcase :p (talking about Stoiber here)
PersonalHappiness
30-07-2005, 20:53
Merkel as an alternative... poor Germany ;)

I used to live a happy life - too young to vote. I was not responsible. Now I am. :headbang: I think I'll have to form a new party :rolleyes:
Cabra West
30-07-2005, 20:58
What would your party program be?
PersonalHappiness
30-07-2005, 21:05
PersonalHappiness is always right.
Obey PersonalHappiness.

:D want to be my first party member?
Neo Rogolia
30-07-2005, 21:06
PersonalHappiness is always right.
Obey PersonalHappiness.

:D want to be my first party member?



Yes, my liege. *zombie-face* :eek:
PersonalHappiness
30-07-2005, 21:14
Yes, my liege. *zombie-face* :eek:

:D :D That's a good start. But you forgot to go down on your knees :p
Canada6
30-07-2005, 23:31
I have decided that Bush was elected for one reason -- the alternative was equally stupid. Face it -- we were completely screwed in the last election.In the 2004 perhaps... but that still doesn't account for Al Gore though.
Cabra West
30-07-2005, 23:33
In the 2004 perhaps... but that still doesn't account for Al Gore though.

Screwed even more.
Gartref
30-07-2005, 23:36
Although his poor grammar and limited vocabulary are an embarrassment to America, it's his continual lying and willful ignorance that shame us the most.
Canada6
30-07-2005, 23:41
Screwed even more.That's preposterous. Al Gore had awesome policies for America, domestic and foreign. He would have been a great president.
UberPenguinLand
30-07-2005, 23:54
Although his poor grammar and limited vocabulary are an embarrassment to America, it's his continual lying and willful ignorance that shame us the most.

And his Monkey Face. :p Just Kidding.
Cabra West
31-07-2005, 00:14
That's preposterous. Al Gore had awesome policies for America, domestic and foreign. He would have been a great president.

That's what I meant. He got screwed, and so did the US democracy...

Edit: Sorry, I can see that my post could have been misinterpretated...
Canada6
31-07-2005, 00:15
That's what I meant. He got screwed, and so did the US democracy...

Edit: Sorry, I can see that my post could have been misinterpretated...
:D All's well that ends well