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Are there any Freemasons out there?

JD Altona 572


EDIT: no ritual talk on this thread thanks!

Altona? What does that stand for?

I know it is a suburb in Hamburg, and used to be a Danish enclave.
Coincidence? I think .... maybe.

Suburb Name.

banding together against others based on religious docterine is the whole freakin' problem with the world right now you assmaster.

banding together against others based on religious docterine is the whole freakin' problem with the world right now you assmaster.

Freemasonry is not a religion "assmaster"!

I am Catholic, in my lodge we have Muslims, Christians and a couple of Jews.

I know of Hindus in the craft.

The races are mixed with Anglos and Phillipinos making the majority of the group.

We practice peace throughout the brotherhood of man.

Suburb Name.
So you guys are organised in enclaves like that? And your enclave sits in HH-Altona? Awesome!
Or should I say: Moin Moin? ;)

Altona? What does that stand for?

I know it is a suburb in Hamburg, and used to be a Danish enclave.
Coincidence? I think .... maybe.

There's an Altona in Melbourne, it's one of the western suburbs.

There's an Altona in Melbourne, it's one of the western suburbs.
Is that true?
Well in that case: Booo! I don't like Freemasons! *throws stuff at you*

But seriously: Aren't you guys supposed to keep a low profile?

My Father, and Uncle and their Father and I think Grandfather are/where all members of the Rite.
You don't have to keep a low profile as far as I know, they used to have to, in days of witch-hunting but I think the censorship is vastly toned down now. If I'm right, your not allowed to disclose which degree of Masonry you are at, unless you reach the 33rd. Probably wrong there though, my family have never talked about what degree's they are though.

I am NOT one. Catholics are forbidden by the heiracrchy to join them.
http://www.catholicism.org/pages/jouin.htm

Freemasonry is not a religion "assmaster"!

I am Catholic, in my lodge we have Muslims, Christians and a couple of Jews.

I know of Hindus in the craft.

The races are mixed with Anglos and Phillipinos making the majority of the group.

We practice peace throughout the brotherhood of man. I thought that Catholics were prohibited from joining the Masons.

Is that true?
Well in that case: Booo! I don't like Freemasons! *throws stuff at you*

But seriously: Aren't you guys supposed to keep a low profile?

I'm not a freemason, just speculating about where Elsbury's talking about.

Is that true?
Well in that case: Booo! I don't like Freemasons! *throws stuff at you*

But seriously: Aren't you guys supposed to keep a low profile?

Im not a freemason but I would seriously doubt that is the case since such a high proportion of freemasons are community leaders. Also, seeing as they give out scholarships and stuff.

I'm not a freemason...
:D
Sure you aren't.

*mumbles something about a conspiracy*

I might not be a Mason but I'm a really great architect... does that count? :)

:D
Sure you aren't.

*mumbles something about a conspiracy*

You know too much. Brisbane you say? There'll be a knock on your door in about half an hour.

Some choose to keep a lower profile than others, however the organisation is quite active in our community.

There is the Freemasons Hospital which is open to all people who need medical attention http://www.fmh.com.au

The Freemasons Homes which are aged care facilities.

The Dallas Brooks Hall, a convention centre in Melbourne.

The Freemasons also fund raise for charity, I collected for the Royal Childrens Hospital on Good Friday.

Others take part in the Variety Club Bash, a road race of sorts where the objective is to raise money for children with disabilities rather than speed.

http://www.variety.org.au/content/content.aspx?content_id=da16dbd7-9b68-40ba-94d8-31cedb5918c5

I thought that Catholics were prohibited from joining the Masons.


Catholics are prohibited from becoming a Freemason.

Freemasons are not prohibited from being Catholic.

I think I konw who has it right.

Catholics are prohibited from becoming a Freemason.
Why? What's wrong with Catholics?
And what's with the Pyramid and the Eye on the US Dollar?

I might not be a Mason but I'm a really great architect... does that count? :)

How's your geometry? (Send me a telegram if you really know the answer)

Why? What's wrong with Catholics?
And what's with the Pyramid and the Eye on the US Dollar?

The church says Catholics can not be Freemasons. As a Catholic I was welcomed into my lodge, but as a Freemason I will not be welcomed into my church.

The Eye on the US Dollar is not something I understand, perhaps a higher degree than I am in.

The Pyrimid and eye is a masonic symbol meaning knowledge but I have no clue as to why it is on currency.

Why? What's wrong with Catholics?
And what's with the Pyramid and the Eye on the US Dollar? The Church doesn't like Freemasonry.

Read Angels and Demons (Dan Brown hyperbole) to find out a flimsy rationalisation for the pyramid and the eye.

The church says Catholics can not be Freemasons. As a Catholic I was welcomed into my lodge, but as a Freemason I will not be welcomed into my church.

The Eye on the US Dollar is not something I understand, perhaps a higher degree than I am in.

The Pyrimid and eye is a masonic symbol meaning knowledge but I have no clue as to why it is on currency.

http://www.geocities.com/endtimedeception/seal.htm

;)

http://www.geocities.com/endtimedeception/seal.htm

;)

S**t hot, I'm part of the new world order! Wow I hope my wife does not mind :)

S**t hot, I'm part of the new world order! Wow I hope my wife does not mind :) I'm sure that "novos ordo seclorum" means "new secular … ILLUMINATUS!

S**t hot, I'm part of the new world order! Wow I hope my wife does not mind :)

You're not 33rd degree like Clinton or Bush yet :D

You're not 33rd degree like Clinton or Bush yet :D

Nope just an 11th of that.

The bigest conspiricy I've been involved in has been to ensure the table I'm eating at has a constant supply of beer after the lodge meeting.

...has a constant supply of beer after the lodge meeting.
AHA!

Got you!
It all makes sense now.....

How's your geometry? (Send me a telegram if you really know the answer)
Lol you've given the game away now 'bo.

I abominate Secret Society's with every atom of my body.
I despise the fact that the majority of the world leaders belong to these obscure groups. It seems like, us the little people, will forever be ruled and controlled by those who belong to these groups.

Freemasons Unite?
No no no... I've got a better idea...

Freemason's... please die. A good dose of Pure popular democracy up your asses should do the trick.

I abominate Secret Society's with every atom of my body.
I despise the fact that the majority of the world leaders belong to these obscure groups. It seems like, us the little people, will forever be ruled and controlled by those who belong to these groups.

Freemasons Unite?
No no no... I've got a better idea...

Freemason's... please die. A good dose of Pure popular democracy up your asses should do the trick.

WOW someone has taken the grumpy pill!

Lol you've given the game away now 'bo.

Didn't think so.

I abominate Secret Society's with every atom of my body.
I despise the fact that the majority of the world leaders belong to these obscure groups. It seems like, us the little people, will forever be ruled and controlled by those who belong to these groups.

Freemasons Unite?
No no no... I've got a better idea...

Freemason's... please die. A good dose of Pure popular democracy up your asses should do the trick.

Please learn some grammar skills... then die.

Seriously though, aren't you being a little over-zealous in your condemnation of Masons? Powerful people will always band together and make fun little schemes for world domination, but the minute it's revealed some of these powerful people are Masons everyone thinks it's a conspiracy!

Ooooh, some rich people are in a society that gives lots of money to charity! The horror!

Me, I want to join the secret society from Eyes Wide Shut, that looked like lots of fun...

Didn't think so.
That's not the proper response at all! ;)

Free Mason's arent' interested in charity. They are interested in continuing their domination and control over society. They elect presidents and they shoot presidents, they educate you and they they marginalize you, they entertain you and they bore you.

The triangular symbol means precisely that. The few on top controlling those on the bottom. This has gone on for centuries.

I refuse to discuss this subject matter in a lighthearted and jokingly manner.

Free Mason's arent' interested in charity. They are interested in continuing their domination and control over society. They elect presidents and they shoot presidents, they educate you and they they marginalize you, they entertain you and they bore you.

The triangular symbol means precisely that. The few on top controlling those on the bottom. This has gone on for centuries.

I refuse to discuss this subject matter in a lighthearted and jokingly manner.

Someone needs a hug!

And it is Freemasons not this Free Mason's of which you speak.

And what's with the Pyramid and the Eye on the US Dollar?

... some of the "founding fathers" of America were freemasons, as well as a lot of congressmen, etc
( see http://www.bessel.org/foundmas.htm )

Also, as a matter of interest, 10 of the 25 Australian prime ministers since federation have been freemasons.

So, how do you guys like secretly controlling the world's governments?

Free Mason's arent' interested in charity. They are interested in continuing their domination and control over society. They elect presidents and they shoot presidents, they educate you and they they marginalize you, they entertain you and they bore you.

The triangular symbol means precisely that. The few on top controlling those on the bottom. This has gone on for centuries.

I refuse to discuss this subject matter in a lighthearted and jokingly manner.
LOL. I guess someone already made my joke. But they were serious.

And it is Freemasons not this Free Mason's of which you speak.
Does your nitpicking about an apostraphe and extra spaces mean you won't refute my criticism of Secret Societies?

... some of the "founding fathers" of America were freemasons, as well as a lot of congressmen, etc
( see http://www.bessel.org/foundmas.htm )

Also, as a matter of interest, 10 of the 25 Australian prime ministers since federation have been freemasons.

Yes there were Freemason's among the founding fathers of the US but there were also Freemasons among the loyalists and the British Command.

Does your nitpicking about an apostraphe and extra spaces mean you won't refute my criticism of Secret Societies?

You have a fear of what you clearly do not understand. You see collusion where there is none and choose to bad mouth people with no proof.

Freemasonry is about humanity living together in peace, not by force but by understanding one another.

You and I are equals. We are born and in the end we die. What matters is what we do in the time we are here.

All Freemasonry asks is that you treat others well by promoting peace, participating in charity and by remaining honest in all your dealings.

So, how do you guys like secretly controlling the world's governments?

It's fun but hard work at the same time.

People keep having opinions, the sooner that stops the better.

It is also getting harder to keep aliens a secret. :D

The conspiracy theory is just silly. If there were a secret society controlling the world it would be genuinely secret. They wouldn't have a listing in the phone book.

The conspiracy theory is just silly. If there were a secret society controlling the world it would be genuinely secret. They wouldn't have a listing in the phone book.

They are...



It's Microsoft

The conspiracy theory is just silly. If there were a secret society controlling the world it would be genuinely secret. They wouldn't have a listing in the phone book.

Don't fear Area 51... get worried about Areas 1 - 50 that noone ever talks about!

Ahh... I am trying to become a mason. I just don't know fully who to contact. I am gonna see if I can just give a call to the Grand Sovereign Lodge of Puerto Rico and ask for the G. Secretary to help me out as I don't know anyone in the lodge of my city. I know that to be one you have to ask one - if I only knew one. My grandfather was a mason, but he died and never told me. For the only reason I found out was a certificate I found claiming he's a free and accepted mason, dating back to 1946.

However, I am gonna give you a simple explanation: If someone who happens to be a freemason, gets elected governor, when he is told "You need to choose the members of your cabinet" he will, as any governor, choose people he can trust, people who are like minded, and so on... then everyone is claiming a friggin' conspiracy because they are all fellow lodge members, but nobody notices that the previous governor's cabinet were all childhood friends from school and were jerking off each other at age 14.

I have also a little homework for you people. I took the list of masters of the lodge of Patillas (Thats a small town in the south of the island) from the web, and started googling their names out. The founder had 20 years before been mayor of the town. The second man, was a mere school principal. The third name was state legislator... the fourth name was mayor when he was mastering the lodge. the fith name was a relatively obscure civil servant from the Labor Department who later died in a car accident.

Notice something? There are the important leaders that control the town, and at the same time, people who although of a respectable profession, are not exactly the wealthy landowners who own half the town, to say the least. The only pattern is basically that all were people of a good reputation in the town.

[QUOTE=Elsburytonia]Freemasonry is not a religion "assmaster"!

Yeah, its an evil Satanic cult!

I am Catholic, in my lodge we have Muslims, Christians and a couple of Jews.


Then you might be interested to know that Freemasonry is banned by the Church.

It's a cult! The higher you go the more they dabble in the occult and pagan/Satanic rituals. I urge you to get out as soon as possible.

Then you might be interested to know that Freemasonry is banned by the Church.

It's a cult! The higher you go the more they dabble in the occult and pagan/Satanic rituals. I urge you to get out as soon as possible.

How do you know this?

And aren't Pagan and Satanic rituals somewhat mutually exclusive?

How do you know this?

And aren't Pagan and Satanic rituals somewhat mutually exclusive?

Yes, they are very much mutually exclusive.

I'm not too keen on the Freemason's, but..meh. I'm not about to go out and try and stop them, or join them.

Sounds like a boring old club for boring old men. Everyone needs to go check out some of the people that are real threats and worry about them instead.

Maybe an actual Freemason can help me with this then.

I knew that some of the "Founding Fathers" (what a stupid name) were Masons, but why would they put these mystical symbols on their currency?
What's the point?

My ancestor started a lodge in Virginia in the early 1700's.

Does that count? :p