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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,163634,00.html

What do you all think? Can you just buy your way into the limelite?

No surprises there at all. That's why I listen an independent radio station, where the presenters have complete freedom of musical choice.

don't you just love commercial pop music? it has just so much integrity....


i'd love to see a documentary charting the production of a pop song, destined for chart success by the music execs - from start to finish. first buying the song & lyrics from a professional songwriter, then to giving it to whichever "celebrity" (famous for being famous of course) happens to be hot at the moment, sitting them down in a recording studio and getting some session singers in and using that wonderful effect/program that keeps a singer's voice on note in order to make it sound half decent, to paying off the radio stations for spins and finally shoving the merchandise and promotions down both the throats of the public and the media until enough people become deluded that the song is good (or trendy or whatever) and actually hand over money for it.... all so the music companies can make a bucket of money and discard the "artist" as soon as big butts are no longer all the rage, for example... :rolleyes:

pfft, it makes me sick, but i'd love to see that documentary!

This has been so flagrant and common that I actually thought it wasn't illegal anymore. The only time I've seen anything against payola was at indy radio stations. Working in the commercial end of the bargain and having my friends working in broadcast it was a matter of course.

I'm not excusing it by a long shot. I'm glad that this is all coming to light.

Thank God for corporate pop music. Hell, it doesn't even require any actual talent anymore :rolleyes:

You know, I was flipping through the channels and saw the beginning of MTV's Advance Warning, and I heard the host say:

"We're bringing you the hottest music from today's best bands...sponsored by McDonalds"

This has been so flagrant and common that I actually thought it wasn't illegal anymore. The only time I've seen anything against payola was at indy radio stations. Working in the commercial end of the bargain and having my friends working in broadcast it was a matter of course.

I'm not excusing it by a long shot. I'm glad that this is all coming to light.

I didn't realise it was illegal, or even secret. I thought it was the pretty much accepted norm.

"We're bringing you the hottest music from today's best bands...sponsored by McDonalds"
:p

then they drag out snoop dogg to do the "Eat McDonald's It's Good For You" rap, cos music doesn't count as advertising, meaning they can get around advertising trading standards regs and say whatever they like to brainwash kiddies into eating there :rolleyes:


money money money!

Thank God for corporate pop music. Hell, it doesn't even require any actual talent anymore :rolleyes:
I didn't know that it ever required actual talent. :D

don't you just love commercial pop music? it has just so much integrity....


i'd love to see a documentary charting the production of a pop song, destined for chart success by the music execs - from start to finish. first buying the song & lyrics from a professional songwriter, then to giving it to whichever "celebrity" (famous for being famous of course) happens to be hot at the moment, sitting them down in a recording studio and getting some session singers in and using that wonderful effect/program that keeps a singer's voice on note in order to make it sound half decent, to paying off the radio stations for spins and finally shoving the merchandise and promotions down both the throats of the public and the media until enough people become deluded that the song is good (or trendy or whatever) and actually hand over money for it.... all so the music companies can make a bucket of money and discard the "artist" as soon as big butts are no longer all the rage, for example... :rolleyes:

pfft, it makes me sick, but i'd love to see that documentary!


They already made that documentary. It played on one of the big two US music networks (Mtv or Vh1), I dont remember which. I dont remember the name of the show either, but it went even further than what you described. It showed how a boy band was created from scratch by investors. The auditions, the casting, the dance lessons, the voice lessons, buying the songs, and everything else you describe. It was amazing to see how easily kids fall for the marketing.

This has been so flagrant and common that I actually thought it wasn't illegal anymore. The only time I've seen anything against payola was at indy radio stations. Working in the commercial end of the bargain and having my friends working in broadcast it was a matter of course.

I'm not excusing it by a long shot. I'm glad that this is all coming to light.I really wish they'd just make payola legal these days. If I ran a place like Sony, with the availability of satellite radio now, I'd just throw my library on a satellite channel and advertise it as such--"You want to hear what we own? Here's where you can get it, every genre, whatever you want. If we record it, it's here." and be done with the crap part of it.

Of course, I stopped listening to comercial radio years ago, so what do I care?

They already made that documentary. It played on one of the big two US music networks (Mtv or Vh1), I dont remember which. I dont remember the name of the show either, but it went even further than what you described. It showed how a boy band was created from scratch by investors. The auditions, the casting, the dance lessons, the voice lessons, buying the songs, and everything else you describe. It was amazing to see how easily kids fall for the marketing.
now that i really want to see. if anyone can remember the name of the show it'll be top of my downloads list asap :D
or hell i could even buy it if its for sale