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I would like to make clear that I have NO problem with equality before the law. Beyond that, people should be able to both rise AND fall based on their own work and merit.

However, I utterly despise they who say I am, or I should be equal to all my fellow man. Face it people, there is a natural inequality between humans, in our varying degrees of skill/strength/knowledge. All because there are people who excel beyond me in certain fields does not make me feel inadequate.

Not to mention that equality before each other is nothing short of oppression. The fact of the matter is that in order to make everyone equal, it means oppressing the people on top so that they are no better than those below them.

:rolleyes:

Mmhmm.

I'd really like to see a rich man cry thanks to socialist propaganda though. :D

:rolleyes:
I second that emoticon!

No one wants you to be exactly the same as everyone else. You are arguing against a desire that does not exist. No sane human thinks that everyone should be exactly like everyone else in terms of physical and mental abilities.

Equal opportunities, equitable (fair) treatment. That is all. Return to your regular program now.

I'm sorry, what's your point?

We stop when everyone has equal opportunity to make the most of his or her talent.

I sure wouldn't mind Paris Hilton getting equalized a bit...

We stop when everyone has equal opportunity to make the most of his or her talent.
Oh, but clearly that's not fair. Then all the people with no talent who simply inherited their positions would be screwed. Bloody commie you!

I sure wouldn't mind Paris Hilton getting equalized a bit...
Now now...she got where she is by her amazing ability to...um....her education in...um....her inherent talent to um....OH JUST SHUT UP AND STOP TRYING TO MAKE EVERYONE EQUAL!!!

I sure wouldn't mind Paris Hilton getting equalized a bit...
Unlike the spoiled trust fund brats who you never hear about she's actually earning some money. She's got a TV show and she does a metric crapload of commercials for products ranging from cell phones to cheeseburgers.

However, I utterly despise they who say I am, or I should be equal to all my fellow man. Face it people, there is a natural inequality between humans, in our varying degrees of skill/strength/knowledge. All because there are people who excel beyond me in certain fields does not make me feel inadequate.
No. People are all equal. They are not identical and nobody is claiming that to be the case.

I sure wouldn't mind Paris Hilton getting equalized a bit...
I'd like her burned. Not like there's much to burn anyway.

I believe it was Ayn Rand who said "the only way to make all people equal is by making them equally poor."

Now now...she got where she is by her amazing ability to...um....her education in...um....her inherent talent to um....OH JUST SHUT UP AND STOP TRYING TO MAKE EVERYONE EQUAL!!!
She has an amazing talent at appealing to the male audience... :p

Unlike the spoiled trust fund brats who you never hear about she's actually earning some money. She's got a TV show and she does a metric crapload of commercials for products ranging from cell phones to cheeseburgers.
And she got the opportunity to do all those things all on her own! Being a socialite is hard work, damn it! Appreciate her style!

This thread is ridiculous. Nobody says everyone is completely equal in every way. They just say you should treat other people as your equals. This whole thing is a ridiculous straw man and whoever came up with this business needs a girlfriend.

Unlike the spoiled trust fund brats who you never hear about she's actually earning some money. She's got a TV show and she does a metric crapload of commercials for products ranging from cell phones to cheeseburgers.She even appears in GERMAN commercials! Argh! And why did she get chosen for those roles? Because she's FILTHY RICH, STUPID, and dresses provocatively. WHY? Why must you be filthy rich in order to be casted for shows and commercials?

She even appears in GERMAN commercials! Argh! And why did she get chosen for those roles? Because she's FILTHY RICH, STUPID, and dresses provocatively. WHY? Why must you be filthy rich in order to be casted for shows and commercials?
You don't need to be filthy rich to get advertizing and TV work. Most actors don't start out rich. They start out doing theater and little commercials to pay the bills.

Paris Hilton has got exactly what the viewing public wants. No controversial ideas and no shame. She's just trading on those assets, and the fact that she's slim and not unattractive.

She has an amazing talent at appealing to the male audience... :p
Actually I think she's pretty ugly.

You don't need to be filthy rich to get advertizing and TV work. Most actors don't start out rich. They start out doing theater and little commercials to pay the bills.

Paris Hilton has got exactly what the viewing public wants. No controversial ideas and no shame. She's just trading on those assets, and the fact that she's slim and not unattractive.Don't remind me of how much I hate the viewing public for letting her get away with it. At least the German commercial makes fun of her (I wonder if she knows...:p)

EDIT: And I respect most actors for getting where they did.

Paris Hilton has got exactly what the viewing public wants. No controversial ideas and no shame. She's just trading on those assets, and the fact that she's slim and not unattractive.
Actually, she's quite yucky.

Actually, she's quite yucky.
I think she's OK looking. I'd bang her, but that's not saying too much.

This whole thing is a ridiculous straw man and whoever came up with this business needs a girlfriend.
I believe it was Kurt Vonnegut, author of the short story “Harrison Bergerson”.
The only place I can find evidence of anybody trying to make everyone absolutely equal is in the American public school system, and even then, only the students.

Also, some people say affirmative action is an attempt to make everyone absolutely equal.

I sense a poll coming on-Paris Hilton: ugly, disgusting whore, sexy whore, or beautiful, respectable socialite? :p

I believe it was Kurt Vonnegut, author of the short story “Harrison Bergerson”.
The only place I can find evidence of anybody trying to make everyone absolutely equal is in the American public school system, and even then, only the students.

Besides Harrison Bergeron, some of the other dystopic novels such as 1984 and Brave New World depict a society in which large groups of people are forced into equality, but everyone is never truly equal. There alwayse has to be a ruling class or group to ensure that absolute equality is enforced, and thus they are unequal because they have the power to create equality.

I think she's OK looking. I'd bang her, but that's not saying too much.
I'd rather eat an AIDS-burger marinated in AIDS and smothered in AIDS. Because an AIDS-burger doesn't exist.

Agreed, Super. Trying to "equalize" the human race is like trying to force all apples in an orchard to be of the same size and quality. Without extreme genetic manipulation, it isn't going to happen. Just realize that there is a tremendous amount of envy coming from unambitious, untalented losers who resent anyone with gifts or drive they'll never, ever posess.

To them, there's only two types of people in the world: Victims and victimizers. :rolleyes:
As if this were the middle ages and there were only an upper and lower class.
Nobody here is from a country that isn't (by world standards) "rich". Just because they don't have millions or trust funds, they consider themselves opressed. Oh, poor babies!
Basically, they're just as spoiled as the Hiltons they're singling out. Jesus, they have fucking computers and internet connections and the way I hear it, it's like an online version of Les Mis.
Lots of them are pretty cool once you get to know them, but I'll still tell them to their faces to get over it. Life is hard. Competition (and evolution) are painful processes. Nothing's going to change that.

In a socialist or communist system, they'd be bitching about the inevitable Nomenklaturas anyways (with good reason, though.) :p

Who cares? We've been watching the slow death of the welfare state around the world for the past 15 years. It was a passing fad in the last century that died with it. Those ideas aren't going anywhere. Fin.

I'd rather eat an AIDS-burger marinated in AIDS and smothered in AIDS. Because an AIDS-burger doesn't exist.
Ok, you eat the AIDS burger and I'll fuck Paris Hilton. Everybody's happy.

I believe it was Ayn Rand who said "the only way to make all people equal is by making them equally poor."
I believe it was me who said "Ayn Rand has about as much knowledge of the way the world works as a turnip.".

I'd like her burned. Not like there's much to burn anyway.
I don't want to burn her, but I sure would love to heat her up a bit! :D

She has an amazing talent at appealing to the male audience... :p

Doubtful, she has the body of a ten-year old boy. :headbang:

She even appears in GERMAN commercials! Argh! And why did she get chosen for those roles? Because she's FILTHY RICH, STUPID, and dresses provocatively. WHY? Why must you be filthy rich in order to be casted for shows and commercials?
She's famous for being famous. :)

I believe it was me who said "Ayn Rand has about as much knowledge of the way the world works as a turnip.".
Of course, the same could be said about anyone who's ever written a single word of commie/pinko trype. :p
Honestly, Ayn's work is too idealistic, but so is anything socialist/communist as well. I'll admit it. Can you?

I believe it was me who said "Ayn Rand has about as much knowledge of the way the world works as a turnip.".
God I hate that woman...

Of course, the same could be said about anyone who's ever written a single word of commie/pinko trype. :p

Or anyone who spells tripe that way :D [/jk]

Of course, the same could be siad about anyone who's ever written a single word of commie/pinko trype. :p
Did I ever say I was communist? No. So why the hell did you say that?*


*I already have a good idea as to why. But I'll let you make an ass of yourself trying to explain.

I believe it was me who said "Ayn Rand has about as much knowledge of the way the world works as a turnip.".
And you, of course, are the ultimate authority on "the way the world works." :rolleyes:

I wonder if Super Power knows this has become a love/hate Paris Hilton and Ayn Rand thread?

So no one else took the opening post seriously either?

Or anyone who spells tripe that way :D [/jk]
Damn, Sin! I am so burned. :( (I hate misspelling--not mistyping--a short word like that!) ;)

Did I ever say I was communist? No. So why the hell did you say that?*Sorry if that came off wrong Cthulu. I have no idea who you are and wasn't assuming anything. I just used your comment to make my own point, directed at the commies/pinkos here.
I agreed with your comment that Ayn is essentially an idealist, if you didn't notice. I was just wondering if any of the reds/pinks could admit the same for their cherished bastions.

And you, of course, are the ultimate authority on "the way the world works." :rolleyes:
Did I ever say I was? No. I didn't. My only remark was that Rand was out of her mind.

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/MMPH/C56461.jpg Doubtful, she has the body of a ten-year old boy. :headbang:


How can you compare that with a 10 year old boy? Paris Hilton isn't ugly, nor is she flat chested. She's not voluptuous, but she's got a good body.

How can you compare that with a 10 year old boy? Paris Hilton isn't ugly, nor is she flat chested. She's not voluptuous, but she's got a good body.

She could have much wider hips and because she is of the upper class, she is a mortal enemy of all socialists, but she certainly doesn't look like a 10 year old boy. She just looks ultrathin.

No. People are all equal. They are not identical and nobody is claiming that to be the case.

People are not equal.

If you give two people $100, one of them might make a million dollars out of it, while the other might waste it.

If you give people financial freedom, some will rise and some will fall... because we aren't equally gifted, we don't all take the same risks, we don't all want the same things to the same degree.

As for Paris Hilton, she's okay imo, but not beautiful -- she has a square face.