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A Canadian kid has decided to use Canterbury Tales as fodder for his rap music. I heard some of his rap on the BBC news hour this morning. It made me ashamed to be white. The beats sucked, the kid had no flow, it was so bad I was embarrased to listen to it.

Anyway, here's a link from the CBC
www.cbc.ca/story/arts/national/2005/07/22/Arts/RapTales_050722.html

Here's an off-topic link to a site with strange crap from New Jersey.
www.midnightsociety.com

You've probably never heard of 'J-Roc' from Trailer Park Boys, then. He takes cultural misappropriation to new heights. Check it out, try finding some TPB torrents for some good chuckles.

Hey now...if you have a problem with white rappers, say so...but Canada has some fine non-white rappers (and gasp, even some white ones), so don't be dissin' *a la Chris Kattan in Undercover Brother*

Kardinal Offishal
Choclair
Swollen Members
Sweatshop Union
etc, etc, etc

Hey now...if you have a problem with white rappers, say so...but Canada has some fine non-white rappers (and gasp, even some white ones), so don't be dissin' *a la Chris Kattan in Undercover Brother*

Kardinal Offishal
Choclair
Swollen Members
Sweatshop Union
etc, etc, etc
What do they rap about? Shakespear? Dante?

Wow, you're just noticing? I thought Vanilla Ice made that pretty clear.

Wow, you're just noticing? I thought Vanilla Ice made that pretty clear.
Ice Ice baby to the extreme boooooey!

Too bad they don't have a vomiting smiley.

What do they rap about? Shakespear? Dante?
*smacks you with a frozen arctic char*

The West Indies has provided Canada with a rich variety of excellent musicians, rappers among them. You should pay a visit to the T dot some time to check them out...or at the very least, download some tunes by the artists I've mentioned. MUCH LOVE TO THE WEST INDIES!!!!! :D

No really, we have some damn good rappers and hip hop artists. So hush you bloody USian you!

Ice Ice baby to the extreme boooooey!

Too bad they don't have a vomiting smiley.
Hey, what about those Irish rappers everyone loved...

I dunno, I've seen some absolutely wretched French and French-Canadian rap... somehow it just doesn't work across all languages.

Ice Ice baby to the extreme boooooey!

Too bad they don't have a vomiting smiley.

I didn't mind the song Under Pressure.

Ice Ice baby to the extreme boooooey!

Too bad they don't have a vomiting smiley.There's a lot of smileys they need, like a lecherous one.

Can we extend the blanket ban to Americans too... (a hopeful smiley! that's what whe need!)

Hey, I'm okay with this, in fact if most of us who actually like/love REAL music had our vote, everyone would be prohibited from rap all together.. :p

If Canada has produced no rappers it should be a matter of national pride. God knows we have little else to brag about.
Rap isn't music any more than Micheal Moore is a legit documentarian. Let's stick to something that requires a bit of culture, shall we?

Hey, what about those Irish rappers everyone loved...
House of Pain? Last I heard from them they did a song with the Nu-Metal band Helmet called Victim, then broke up. One of the guys, Everlast, has a solo career now. Some of his solo stuff isn't too bad.

A Canadian kid has decided to use Canterbury Tales as fodder for his rap music. I heard some of his rap on the BBC news hour this morning. It made me ashamed to be white. The beats sucked, the kid had no flow, it was so bad I was embarrased to listen to it.

Anyway, here's a link from the CBC
www.cbc.ca/story/arts/national/2005/07/22/Arts/RapTales_050722.html

Here's an off-topic link to a site with strange crap from New Jersey.
www.midnightsociety.comWhite Canadians, maybe. We have some really talented rappers here. I have yet to come across a good white one, but I don't like to generalize.

I think Canada manufactures most of her rappers out of Halifax or Toronto.

House of Pain? Last I heard from them they did a song with the Nu-Metal band Helmet called Victim, then broke up. One of the guys, Everlast, has a solo career now. Some of his solo stuff isn't too bad.

Were house of pain actually Irish-born or just of Irish descent?

I'm sorry, but "talent" and "rap" should never be used in the same sentence. :D

I dunno, I've seen some absolutely wretched French and French-Canadian rap... somehow it just doesn't work across all languages.
I like Manau...they're a french hip-hop group from France, with a lot of celtic influence. It sounds like it should suck, but it actually rocks.

The song victim is off the judgement night soundtrack the whole album was a metal/rap thing really cool. Eric Schroedy aka Everlast aka Whitey Ford has a much respected solo career, DJ Lethal is with Limp Bizkit.

There are few white rappers that don't suck.
House of Pain
Eminem
3rd Bass
But way more that do.
Vanilla Ice
Snow
Blondie (WTF was she thinking with Rapture)



House of Pain? Last I heard from them they did a song with the Nu-Metal band Helmet called Victim, then broke up. One of the guys, Everlast, has a solo career now. Some of his solo stuff isn't too bad.

I'm sorry, but "talent" and "rap" should never be used in the same sentence. :D
Man...sensing the prejudice in this thread! Don't characterise all rap by 50 cent and his ilk...rap began political, and the good stuff still is...and quite musical as well. Plenty of rappers also have live bands instead of drum machines and synthesizers...how is that not music?

Irish-American.

Were house of pain actually Irish-born or just of Irish descent?

I'm sorry, but "talent" and "rap" should never be used in the same sentence. :D
Actually, to rap rhythmically (freestyle especially) requires a lot of talent.

Were house of pain actually Irish-born or just of Irish descent?
Irish descent, I think.

I like Manau...they're a french hip-hop group from France, with a lot of celtic influence. It sounds like it should suck, but it actually rocks.
Well what does work well in French is that fusion of Arab and French pop, called "Rai" music. Very listenable, exotic yet not altogether unfamiliar, although I haven't a clue what the songs are about (like the one that absolutely, cannot be named "The Good Fish Deli" - but uncannily, the Arab lyrics sound exactly as though that is the refrain.

Good fun. But not rap. I used to listen to Bhangra, which is rap-ish... and also fun, in an east-Indian way.

Irish descent, I think.

Dammit I really wanted us to be able to claim a good rapper

I like Manau...they're a french hip-hop group from France, with a lot of celtic influence. It sounds like it should suck, but it actually rocks.
Do you mean Manu Chao or is that another one?

I like Manau...they're a french hip-hop group from France, with a lot of celtic influence. It sounds like it should suck, but it actually rocks.Hey! I actually know them! They're pretty ok, actually. They actually use melodies.

But way more that do.
Vanilla Ice
Snow
Blondie (WTF was she thinking with Rapture)

LOL

and canadian to boot. Ever see Snow's video featuring Bubbles from TPB? I can't remember though - I think J-Roc might've been involved in that as well...

Man...sensing the prejudice in this thread! Don't characterise all rap by 50 cent and his ilk...rap began political, and the good stuff still is...and quite musical as well. Plenty of rappers also have live bands instead of drum machines and synthesizers...how is that not music?

Perhaps it's just my age showing..lol

I'm just not a fan of rap music. You want to listen to a political band, may I suggest Pink Floyd..lol I just hate rap.. to each their own I'spose!

I'm sorry but "talent" and "rap" should never be used in the same sentence. :D

Brava!

You're funny, I like you.

A Canadian kid has decided to use Canterbury Tales as fodder for his rap music. I heard some of his rap on the BBC news hour this morning. It made me ashamed to be white. The beats sucked, the kid had no flow, it was so bad I was embarrased to listen to it.

Anyway, here's a link from the CBC
www.cbc.ca/story/arts/national/2005/07/22/Arts/RapTales_050722.html

Here's an off-topic link to a site with strange crap from New Jersey.
www.midnightsociety.com

Oh no ... how is Tom Green going to make his comeback?

Check the OR ... you like it so far?

Im assuming that if the Cantebury guy was seen on BBC you are in England and are therefore in no position to be pigeon-holing Canadians as not cool... Of all rap I have ever heard English does it the worst. The English language in comparison to all languages is by far the lamest and in terms of rap it simply just cannot flow. In order for rap to sound good a higher vowel concentration is needed, (remember it was invented in Africa), which is why the best languages for rap are French, Spanish, Italian and Arabic. Hmmm...I wonder what Inuktitut rap would sound like... But I doubt the British could let go of thier ethnocentrist outlook on music for long enough to find out. Cheers

Let's stick to something that requires a bit of culture, shall we?

My, what an enlightened viewpoint!

I'm sorry, but "talent" and "rap" should never be used in the same sentence. :D
same thing with "funny" and "rap jokes." The insults to rap are old and tiresome and based on the mainstream you heard on the radio, where everything you hear in the mainstream is shit, but you don't see people going around declaring rock or whatever no talent hackery do you? No. Grow up.

listen to k-os nieve american. Also didn't you guys produce vannila ice, you owe us .

Do you mean Manu Chao or is that another one?
That's another one. I also like Manu Chao, though I wouldn't quite characterise him as just being rap. I'm also a fan of La Mala Rodriguez (Spain), and Los Orishas (Cuba) for some quality Spanish rap.

"I think Canada manufactures most of her rappers out of Halifax or Toronto. "

I do believe the numbers show Montreal and Vancouver. Man why do the anglos always forget that Quebec is Canada's artistic hub... Oh yeah and there is Battle Axe records in BC.

Perhaps it's just my age showing..lol

I'm just not a fan of rap music. You want to listen to a political band, may I suggest Pink Floyd..lol I just hate rap.. to each their own I'spose!
ROFLMAO!

Ok, I can get into a few acts... but I got to admit, the bulk of it (as with all things) is pretty whiffy.

I will invoke Sturgeon's Law:

Sturgeon, replying to a fan who wondered why he wrote SF (Sturgeon wrote in other genres as well): "Sure, ninety percent of science fiction is shit. That's because ninety percent of everything is shit."

Hmmm...I wonder what Inuktitut rap would sound like...
Nuuke Posse (http://www.milkycat.com/reviews/nuukrvw.html) is an Inuit group from Greenland, and they're quite good. They rap in Greenlandic, but it's pretty damn close to Canadian Inuit dialects.

"I think Canada manufactures most of her rappers out of Halifax or Toronto. "

I do believe the numbers show Montreal and Vancouver. Man why do the anglos always forget that Quebec is Canada's artistic hub... Oh yeah and there is Battle Axe records in BC.
Depends on the kind of rap. 'Gangsta Rap' you can expect coming out of Halifax. Some funk-inspired rap is easily found in Vancouver. I live in Montreal and while I see a lot of French rap, it isn't really popular ... except for maybe on 96.9. Toronto is pretty various but doesn't produce most of the country's best.

EDIT: Actually T-dot did produce Kardinal Offishall who is internationally known.

Nuuke Posse (http://www.milkycat.com/reviews/nuukrvw.html) is an Inuit group from Greenland, and they're quite good. They rap in Greenlandic, but it's pretty damn close to Canadian Inuit dialects.

Cool thanks!

Ihatevacations']same thing with "funny" and "rap jokes." The insults to rap are old and tiresome and based on the mainstream you heard on the radio, where everything you hear in the mainstream is shit, but you don't see people going around declaring rock or whatever no talent hackery do you? No. Grow up.

I just don't like Rap.. I wouldn't take to much from it. To each their own.

A Canadian kid has decided to use Canterbury Tales as fodder for his rap music. I heard some of his rap on the BBC news hour this morning. It made me ashamed to be white. The beats sucked, the kid had no flow, it was so bad I was embarrased to listen to it.

Anyway, here's a link from the CBC
www.cbc.ca/story/arts/national/2005/07/22/Arts/RapTales_050722.html

Here's an off-topic link to a site with strange crap from New Jersey.
www.midnightsociety.com

There's worse. Try having your college roomate blast Macho Man Randy Savage's rap CD over and over whenever your in the room. My ears still feel the pain.

Im assuming that if the Cantebury guy was seen on BBC you are in England and are therefore in no position to be pigeon-holing Canadians as not cool... Of all rap I have ever heard English does it the worst. The English language in comparison to all languages is by far the lamest and in terms of rap it simply just cannot flow. In order for rap to sound good a higher vowel concentration is needed, (remember it was invented in Africa), which is why the best languages for rap are French, Spanish, Italian and Arabic. Hmmm...I wonder what Inuktitut rap would sound like... But I doubt the British could let go of thier ethnocentrist outlook on music for long enough to find out. Cheers
Actually I'm a resident of the Great Garden State of New Jersey, USA. It's where God would live if he existed.

Rap wasn't invented in Africa, it was invented in New York.

England does have some decent rap. How can you not like the GLC's Your Mother's Got a Penis?

Actually I'm a resident of the Great Garden State of New Jersey, USA. It's where God would live if he existed.

Rap wasn't invented in Africa, it was invented in New York.


Oh DC...you come up to Canada and I'll whisper some Cree rap into your ear...you'll soon become a firm believer in the worth of Canadian rap when I'm done with you!

House of Pain? Last I heard from them they did a song with the Nu-Metal band Helmet called Victim, then broke up. One of the guys, Everlast, has a solo career now. Some of his solo stuff isn't too bad.

Everlast had a solo career before House of Pain. "Forever Everlasting" came out in 1990, he was one of the Rhyme Syndicate's (Ice-T et al) little discoveries. They put together House of Pain to get him into the mainstream. I was not impressed with it.

"I got Tipper Gore protestin' my lyrics
FUCK THAT BITCH I DON'T NEED HER CLEARANCE
To write my rhymes and speak my mind
you can't censor me the public's not blind"

Everlast, "Fuck Everyone"

Oh DC...you come up to Canada and I'll whisper some Cree rap into your ear...you'll soon become a firm believer in the worth of Canadian rap when I'm done with you!
That's a hard offer to resist.

That's a hard offer to resist.
Don't worry, if you come, you'll eventually soften to the idea.

Oh DC...you come up to Canada and I'll whisper some Cree rap into your ear...you'll soon become a firm believer in the worth of Canadian rap when I'm done with you!
"Hey how you doin' lil' mama? Lemme whisper in your ear
Tell you something that you might like to hear" - The Ying Yang Twins, "Wait"

Don't worry, if you come, you'll eventually soften to the idea.
Stop with the sexual innuendoes, already.

Stop with the sexual innuendoes, already.

Please. Don't. Stop.

Please don't stop.

Please?

Stop with the sexual innuendoes, already.
You're relatively new around here, aren't you? Sexual innuendos are as much a part of my repertoire as are references to my transgendered brother, feminism, and my native ancestry. I'm sorry, but they will in fact, not stop.:)

And DC has known right from the start I'm hot for his commie American ass...

You're relatively new around here, aren't you? Sexual innuendos are as much a part of my repertoire as are references to my transgendered brother, feminism, and my native ancestry. I'm sorry, but they will in fact, not stop.:)

And DC has known right from the start I'm hot for his commie American ass...
:p

Ice Ice baby to the extreme boooooey!

Too bad they don't have a vomiting smiley.
http://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/wuerg/vomit-smiley-011.gif

If Canada has produced no rappers it should be a matter of national pride. God knows we have little else to brag about.
Rap isn't music any more than Micheal Moore is a legit documentarian. Let's stick to something that requires a bit of culture, shall we?

wow, I agree completly, even though I live in the US...