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Is anywhere here into comic books? personally my favorite is V for Vendetta and The Invisibles, but there are more graphic novels. Anyway, I think graphic novels have a juxtaposition of emotion, lust, and ultimately feeling cause there are moments in them where you can relate to them. What's your favorite?

Sandman :) Then Calvin and Hobbes... maybe not as 'deep' but just as full of life and emotion.

Maus is the fucking best graphic novel ever.

Oh, there are so many. But off the top of my head

Witchblade
Fathom
Spawn
Darkness
Lady Death

The list could go on for quite awhile and include Calvin & Hobbes as well..

Maus is the fucking best graphic novel ever.

The reason, by the way, that Maus is so good, is because unlike shitty comic books, you're not reading a hero's story. They're all the same. Some silly twat running around in spandex with special powers. Maus is a genuinely good story, with a very, very interesting twist, and the images help add to the story (and are symbolic/ironic).

Is anywhere here into comic books? personally my favorite is V for Vendetta and The Invisibles, but there are more graphic novels. Anyway, I think graphic novels have a juxtaposition of emotion, lust, and ultimately feeling cause there are moments in them where you can relate to them. What's your favorite?

"Richie Rich" or "Archie and Jughead". The artwork is surreal and the writing intense.

Sandman :) Then Calvin and Hobbes... maybe not as 'deep' but just as full of life and emotion.


I think Calvin and Hobbes has plenty of depth. That's what makes it so funny. The comic strip constantly comments on people and the destructive quirks they have. But it does it in a simplistic way that doesn't come across arrogant or pretentious.

It's just about an over-imaginative little boy and his tiger

The reason, by the way, that Maus is so good, is because unlike shitty comic books, you're not reading a hero's story. They're all the same. Some silly twat running around in spandex with special powers. Maus is a genuinely good story, with a very, very interesting twist, and the images help add to the story (and are symbolic/ironic).


You are what I like to call a comic snob. While I will agree that superhero comics nowadays are severely lacking, there are still some great titles out there. The New Avengers is a very old premise, but the dialogue is clever and the art is bright and detailed.

Just because a comic doesn't have some deep meaning, doesn't make it bad. There is nothing wrong for entertainment for entertainment's sake.

And as far as them being unoriginal... If you want to get technical there hasn't been a REAL original plot since the days of Shakespeare. Stories come across original when a writer takes a used plot and adds his own interesting and fresh spin to it.

Ever seen Minority Report? The idea of a detective getting framed for a murder he didn't commit is as old as dirt, but the story came across new and fresh because of the way the story was told.

You are what I like to call a comic snob. While I will agree that superhero comics nowadays are severely lacking, there are still some great titles out there. The New Avengers is a very old premise, but the dialogue is clever and the art is bright and detailed.

Just because a comic doesn't have some deep meaning, doesn't make it bad. There is nothing wrong for entertainment for entertainment's sake.

And as far as them being unoriginal... If you want to get technical there hasn't been a REAL original plot since the days of Shakespeare. Stories come across original when a writer takes a used plot and adds his own interesting and fresh spin to it.

Ever seen Minority Report? The idea of a detective getting framed for a murder he didn't commit is as old as dirt, but the story came across new and fresh because of the way the story was told.

You've got me wrong. I don't like any Super-Hero story books. And since you obviously didn't look up Maus, it's non-fiction, and it's story definitely not unique, because we've all heard that same damned holocaust survivor story already.

Having grown up with Calvin and Hobbes I must say it is the best comic strip ever. It is funny in its simplicity and also deep philosophical issues it addresses. It really makes you remember your childhood...

Used to like garfield...then I grew up :rolleyes:

Favourites:

Usagi Yojimbo
Bone
Calvin&Hobbes
Gaston Lagaffe
Les Tuniques Bleus
Get Fuzzy
Troll de Troy
Castle Waiting
Disney Comics by Carl Barks and Don Rosa

...and a few I have to hide in the closet, really:

Elfquest
Prince Valiant

(embarassing, I know. But those two taught me to draw and paint myself....)

Best webcomic is Chronicles of Garas (http://www.chroniclesofgaras.com)

These guys need to get published.

Hmmm. . . great comics

The Sandman
V for Vendetta
The Watchmen
Most Alan Moore stuff, actually
Lucifer
Bone
Y the Last Man
Kingdom Come

That is my short list ;)

Watchmen.

People. READ IT. NOW.

Watchmen.

People. READ IT. NOW.

Seconded.

I also like

V for vendetta
The Authority
Planetary
Dark Knight returns (but not the sequel).

Transformers, though currently I'm not in a town that has a comics shop, and Dreamwave is gone anyway, so I need to wait until the IDW Publishing series starts up to get my fix.

I've also been known to enjoy Asterix.

Judge Dredd

He is the Law :D

Alan Moore is a genius in comic book writing, he's done so many:The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, V for Vendetta, Miraclemen, From Hell, Watchmen, Swamp Thing, and few batmans etc. He probably is the best graphic novel writer out there.

Alan Moore is a genius in comic book writing, he's done so many:The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, V for Vendetta, Miraclemen, From Hell, Watchmen, Swamp Thing, and few batmans etc. He probably is the best graphic novel writer out there.

Among my more treasured items is a copy of DR and Quinch's Guide to life, signed by Alan Moore.

Crying Freeman (http://www.dvdvisionjapan.com/cryfreeman.htm) :cool:
Those Anoying Post Brothers (http://www.ozones.com/postbros/) :eek:
Anything by Phil Foglio (http://www.studiofoglio.com/) :D :cool:
Albedo
Birthright
Furrlough
Shanda the Panda
ZU
Omaha the Cat Dancer
(Most Anthros/Furries)

Online:
Sluggy Freelance (http://sluggy.com/)
Kevin and Kell (http://kevinandkell.com/)
Schlock Mercenary (http://schlockmercenary.com/)
GPF (http://www.gpf-comics.com/)
Ubersoft.net (http://ubersoft.net/)
Gene Catlow (http://genecatlow.com/)
College Roomates from Hell (http://crfh.net/)
Poisoned Minds (http://poisonedminds.com/)
Day by Day (http://www.daybydaycartoon.com/Default.aspx)
WebMAJack (http://pholph.com/) WebMA

Alan Moore is a genius in comic book writing, he's done so many: The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, V for Vendetta, Miraclemen, From Hell, Watchmen, Swamp Thing, and few batmans etc. He probably is the best graphic novel writer out there.

Ahem. I remind you of Frank Miller, who has brought to the table one of the best Batman novels ever, The Dark Knight Returns, and Ronin, and, indeed, Sin City.

However! To the original poster! Some series to get into:

Neil Gaiman - Sandman - odd, ever-changing, iconic late 80s/early 90s myth-comic about a being of indescribable power and his perky goth sister.
Garth Ennis and Steve Dillon - Preacher - seriously fucked-up "super"-hero comic with a hard-drinking Irish vampire and a whole bucketful of Texas.
Warren Ellis - Transmetropolitan - Pure, rarified, Grade-A gonzo, works best when injected into the eyeballs.

Sandman - the best graphic novel of them all - sweeping in scale, intricate plot and characters you just free fall into

-an absolutely amazing graphic novel and I think it was the only one ever (at least the first) to receive a literary award. It will blow you away, I read it when I was 16 and I reread the whole series again when I was 22 to make sure it wasn't just my youth blowing it up out of proportion - it wasn't. It was still as fresh and mature and profound... An amazing graphic novel that is sure to change your world-view. Read them all!!!!

Oh and after Neil Gaiman, Alan Moore is an excellent comic book writer, read Swamp thing also - very good.

I'm into a few titles... most notably, the Silver Surfer, but I've been captivated by 'The Ultimates' the last year or two.

Other than that, I still laugh reading 'The Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers', and every once in a while I'll re-read the three 'Ranxerox' graphic novels by Liberatore.

*Edit: Oh, and yes I also liked 'V For Vendetta' and 'Elric of Melnibone'.

Ahem. I remind you of Frank Miller, who has brought to the table one of the best Batman novels ever, The Dark Knight Returns, and Ronin, and, indeed, Sin City.

However! To the original poster! Some series to get into:

Neil Gaiman - Sandman - odd, ever-changing, iconic late 80s/early 90s myth-comic about a being of indescribable power and his perky goth sister.
Garth Ennis and Steve Dillon - Preacher - seriously fucked-up "super"-hero comic with a hard-drinking Irish vampire and a whole bucketful of Texas.
Warren Ellis - Transmetropolitan - Pure, rarified, Grade-A gonzo, works best when injected into the eyeballs.

Very much agreed on all of these (although Sandman gets kind of ponderous for me at times). The Preacher is especially fantastic and if I wasn't sure they would ruin it I would love to see a film version of it

Also, The Invisibles is incredible, especially if you have done your share of mind altering substances. And Hellblazer is great even if it's kind of hit or miss.

Umm, I dunno if I'm qualified to say, because 'super hero' comics don't interest me and they seem to be the majority.

The only comic I've read is Watchmen, and simply put it's freaking brilliant.

I've got a copy of V for Vendetta sitting around that I might read someday too.

V for Vendetta i still think is one of the best all time.

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I love Asterix & TinTin. Do they count?

Arkham Asylum by Grant Morrison is another great read. The joker is creepy as hell in it.

Noone has mentioned about the invisibles surprisingly. That's where The Matrix creators got their ideas.

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Just wanted to throw that out there, it's me and my crew. Anyone care to guess which one is me? :D

The Punisher is good too.