NationStates Jolt Archive

For any of you that would rather read the Army's version of what's going on in Iraq than listen to "Awful Al" and "Raggedy Randi" on Air America, take a look at this Centcom (http://www.mnstci.iraq.centcom.mil/docs/advisor/currentissue.pdf) newsletter. They are pretty upbeat on what's going on and it's a nice change from the usual doom-and-gloom you hear on the liberal networks.

For any of you that would rather read the Army's version of what's going on in Iraq than listen to "Awful Al" and "Raggedy Randi" on Air America, take a look at this Centcom (http://www.mnstci.iraq.centcom.mil/docs/advisor/currentissue.pdf) newsletter. They are pretty upbeat on what's going on and it's a nice change from the usual doom-and-gloom you hear on the liberal networks.
so we can listen to blissful lies then come clain nothing is actually happening, we are winning because they are cutting out anything negative, or we can listen to whats really happening slightly exagerrated, how aobut you listen to neither and stop putting forward crappy biased shows.

The US Central Command newsletter is upbeat about the war? I'm shocked.


Look ----> :eek:

Shocked.

Ihatevacations']so we can listen to blissful lies then come clain nothing is actually happening, we are winning because they are cutting out anything negative, or we can listen to whats really happening slightly exagerrated, how aobut you listen to neither and stop putting forward crappy biased shows.

The U.S. armed forces are having recruitment problems because of the war, thanks to the *cough* unfiltered truth here in America.

However, the low recruitment numbers are being offset by an unusually high level of voluntary re-enlistments. --those who are actually over there.

Which do you believe?

The US Central Command newsletter is upbeat about the war? I'm shocked.


Look ----> :eek:

Shocked.

Don't let anything else I write in this thread take away from the fact that I agree with your comments here whole-heartedly.

"The beatings will continue until the morale improves."

The U.S. armed forces are having recruitment problems because of the war, thanks to the *cough* unfiltered truth here in America.

However, the low recruitment numbers are being offset by an unusually high level of voluntary re-enlistments. --those who are actually over there.

Which do you believe?
the pre or post-brainwashed? I believe it isn't so much the news that is killnig recruitments as the fact they are in an active battle. People who wanted to enlist for patriotism will enlist anyway, people who wanted to enlist jsut to do it will have reconsidered. The army experienced a similar recruiting problem during 1998, and Kosovo held vary few casualties I see

Ihatevacations']so we can listen to blissful lies then come clain nothing is actually happening, we are winning because they are cutting out anything negative, or we can listen to whats really happening slightly exagerrated, how aobut you listen to neither and stop putting forward crappy biased shows.
I'm sure you didn't take the time to read the entire 15 pages, but do yourself a favor and read the lead article on the Iraqi police graduates. That is worth the effort.

One thing about writing for soldiers is that they know BS when they see it. You seem to be under the impression that they are as gullible as the folks watching the evening news back in the States. You can't tell a guy that has been living in Iraq that things are swell if they aren't. I don't recall much in the magazine that tries to bluff anyone. All you'll end up with then is a credibility problem and folks that start using your rag for toilet paper.

What is done is to show how the Iraqis are anxious to assume responsibility for their own security. The last four pages contain 21 articles that show the Iraqi police in action. Typically, they describe actions against terrorists resulting in the arrests of the terrorists, rather than the deaths of the police.

Typical of the articles, is one quoted below.

Iraqis lead Soldiers to weapons BAGHDAD –
A group of Iraqi citizens stopped a Task Force Baghdad unit patrolling in southeast Baghdad July 15 and told the Soldiers they’d found some weapons. The patrol followed the Iraqis to the site and found two mortar tubes and three base plates, one rocket-propelled grenade launcher, 17 mortar rounds, 39 artillery rounds and 25 boxes of hand grenades. “These citizens did the right thing by reporting the weapons they found to the Soldiers so they could get rid of them before a terrorist could use them,” said U.S. Army Lt. Col. Clifford Kent, a Task Force Baghdad spokesperson. The patrol rewarded the Iraqis with a payment from the Commander’s Reward Program. Iraqi Security Forces and Task Force Baghdad officials continue to encourage all Iraqi citizens to report suspicious behavior by e-mailing baghdadtipshotline@yahoo.com or calling one of the TIPS hotlines at 07901737723 or 07901737727. (Task Force Baghdad Public Affairs)

I think we should be just as diligent in searching for and reporting good things that happen in Iraq, as we are with the bad things that get all the airtime.

I think we should be just as diligent in searching for and reporting good things that happen in Iraq, as we are with the bad things that get all the airtime.
of course we should but thats not the news' job, the news' job in iraq, and EVERYWHER ELSE, is to report doom and gloom. happy go lucky potluck suppers don't get ratings

I think we should be just as diligent in searching for and reporting good things that happen in Iraq, as we are with the bad things that get all the airtime.
Exactly one of the points I have been trying to make for the last six months. Unfortunately, most people tend to seek out news which serves to reinforce their existing closely-held beliefs. If you begin with the assumtion that the war in Iraq is bad, you will ignore information which tends to refute that assumtion. If you begin with the belief that the US military is largely noble, truthful and just, you will tend to ignore information which may lead to a different conclusion. It's just a persistence of vision which afflicts us all.

Thanks for posting the link. Interesting.

You'd rather read a lot of propoganda than the news?

That's pathetic.

You'd rather read a lot of propoganda than the news?

That's pathetic.
That's funny. I'd like to know what part of the Centcom magazine qualified as propaganda. Like I said, you can't BS soldiers, they see through it all.

Another link that is worth reading is the Stars and Stripes (http://www.stripes.com). That paper is a little more like a Sunday supplement than a real paper, but it's crossword puzzles kept me from going to sleep on late watches.

For any of you that would rather read the Army's version of what's going on in Iraq than listen to "Awful Al" and "Raggedy Randi" on Air America, take a look at this Centcom (http://www.mnstci.iraq.centcom.mil/docs/advisor/currentissue.pdf) newsletter. They are pretty upbeat on what's going on and it's a nice change from the usual doom-and-gloom you hear on the liberal networks.

The army is always upbeat when they get to fight. You think they enjoy shooting at rusty Soviet tanks?

And I'm not sure how much of a slant they really can give to the facts. "Four soldiers blown up today, but not in a bad way, just a few deaths and some slight maiming. Nothing serious"?

I'd like to know what part of the Centcom magazine qualified as propaganda.

They are pretty upbeat on what's going on and it's a nice change from the usual doom-and-gloom you hear...


Well would ya look at that, answered your own question.

That's funny. I'd like to know what part of the Centcom magazine qualified as propaganda. Like I said, you can't BS soldiers, they see through it all.

Another link that is worth reading is the Stars and Stripes (http://www.stripes.com). That paper is a little more like a Sunday supplement than a real paper, but it's crossword puzzles kept me from going to sleep on late watches.


You have to discount everything that person says...Esp since Dobbs thinks that Canada has no censorship, at all, but certain books can be confiscated at the border. That's just not censorship. :rolleyes: