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Opinions?

Think they can get everyone to go along? I'll believe it when I see it happen.

Think they can get everyone to go along? I'll believe it when I see it happen.

"Dr" Ian Paisley will be the key to it being accepted. If they can convince him they can convince anyone. At the moment i'm pretty skeptical

Interesting. Very interesting. Hopefully this is will happen.

it's a good start, but what about the drug cartels that use the IRA title? what about the loyalist paramilitaries?

my main question though, is when will people stop listening to Paisley? he's an arse, plain and simple, there are plenty of reasonable unionist politicians out there, but paisley still gets the attention because he can shout louder. :headbang:

*continues ranting*

it's a good start, but what about the drug cartels that use the IRA title? what about the loyalist paramilitaries?

my main question though, is when will people stop listening to Paisley? he's an arse, plain and simple, there are plenty of reasonable unionist politicians out there, but paisley still gets the attention because he can shout louder. :headbang:
*continues ranting*

Thats what you have to love about politics in N.I. On the one hand you have a man who called the Pope the anti-christ and on the other you have members of the IRA leadership

Thats what you have to love about politics in N.I. On the one hand you have a man who called the Pope the anti-christ and on the other you have members of the IRA leadership
everyone's the anti-christ according to paisley. he thinks he's the messiah and he never agrees with anyone else, so...

and the ira leadership?!!?! I don't even know where to start.

Thats what you have to love about politics in N.I. On the one hand you have a man who called the Pope the anti-christ and on the other you have members of the IRA leadership

I think I saw an article on Ian Paisley's website saying that there was a space in the EU parliament reserved for the anti-christ, wouldn't really surprise me ;) . I'll try and find the link though.

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here's the link http: link (http://www.ianpaisley.org/article.asp?ArtKey=666) //www.ianpaisley.org/article.asp?ArtKey=666

everyone's the anti-christ according to paisley. he thinks he's the messiah and he never agrees with anyone else, so...

and the ira leadership?!!?! I don't even know where to start.

I love that he was ordained by people who werent given the authority from their own churches to ordain in the first place

Praise be.

Oh hey, when I was in Ireland in 1992 most of the locals I spoke to about the Northern Ireland situation said that Ireland couldn't support Northern Ireland, even if they did re-unify. Now that Ireland's economy has taken off and they are doing so well, has there been any change in Irish attitudes to re-unifying with Northern Ireland? Any Irish online care to comment?

Praise be.

Oh hey, when I was in Ireland in 1992 most of the locals I spoke to about the Northern Ireland situation said that Ireland couldn't support Northern Ireland, even if they did re-unify. Now that Ireland's economy has taken off and they are doing so well, has there been any change in Irish attitudes to re-unifying with Northern Ireland? Any Irish online care to comment?
I was only 6 in 1992, so I wouldn't really know the difference in political opinion. :rolleyes:

I was only 6 in 1992, so I wouldn't really know the difference in political opinion. :rolleyes:

Same here. I have nothing to offer but my good looks and typed words dont quite get that across ;)

Same here. I have nothing to offer but my good looks and typed words dont quite get that across ;)

Okay well in the surreal cinema of my mind you look like Colin Farrell now. Naked.

Okay well in the surreal cinema of my mind you look like Colin Farrell now. Naked.

But with a strategically placed basket of shamrock?

I'll believe it when I see it.

I'll believe it when I see it.Agreed. I hope it's serious, but we've been let down too many times before, so I am skeptical.

I am incensed that Sean Kelly was let out of prison. It was clearly a trade-off for this. While I supported the Good Friday Agreement, if I had been old enough to vote at the time (I was 15), I would have voted against it on the basis that they let all the killers from all the organisations out of jail.

Agreed. I hope it's serious, but we've been let down too many times before, so I am skeptical.

I am incensed that Sean Kelly was let out of prison. It was clearly a trade-off for this. While I supported the Good Friday Agreement, if I had been old enough to vote at the time (I was 15), I would have voted against it on the basis that they let all the killers from all the organisations out of jail.

I agree with you on this. Its terrible that Sean Kelly can get 9 life sentences and then get out of prison after only 5 years

I am incensed that Sean Kelly was let out of prison. It was clearly a trade-off for this. While I supported the Good Friday Agreement, if I had been old enough to vote at the time (I was 15), I would have voted against it on the basis that they let all the killers from all the organisations out of jail.

I also disagree with letting murderer's out of prision. And as for the IRA disarming I don't think so. the IRA has almost made the transition from politcal terrorists to a crinimal organisation all they have to do now is change their name.

According to right-wingers though they are just being defeatist right? I mean you can't accomplish things through peaceful means and compromise. One NEEDS guns and fear in their opponenets to let them know whos in charge.

According to right-wingers though they are just being defeatist right? I mean you can't accomplish things through peaceful means and compromise. One NEEDS guns and fear in their opponenets to let them know whos in charge.

But you need to take into account how stubborn the people of northern ireland can be. If we can hold a grudge for 300 years then we're stubborn enough to resist terrorism

But you need to take into account how stubborn the people of northern ireland can be. If we can hold a grudge for 300 years then we're stubborn enough to resist terrorism


NO! I'm part Irish and I will NEVER accept what you are saying. :p

NO! I'm part Irish and I will NEVER accept what you are saying. :p

:eek: Dont make me organise a parade for my side of the argument :p

:eek: Dont make me organise a parade for my side of the argument :p

Buy me a Guinness and we'll talk. :D

Buy me a Guinness and we'll talk. :D

YUCK i hate Guinness but I wont hold that against you

YUCK i hate Guinness but I wont hold that against you

My favorite drink is quite politically incorrect and is made with Guinness: The Irish Car Bomb. mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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Opinions?

Its about bloody time they stopped this farce. Im glad its happeneing.

Agreed. I hope it's serious, but we've been let down too many times before, so I am skeptical.

I am incensed that Sean Kelly was let out of prison. It was clearly a trade-off for this. While I supported the Good Friday Agreement, if I had been old enough to vote at the time (I was 15), I would have voted against it on the basis that they let all the killers from all the organisations out of jail.
It's an absolute farce....for anybody who doesn't know, he bombed a chip shop in 1993 and killed 9 people....he was given 9 life sentences plus another 25 years for the explosion itself, but was released in 2000 under the Good Friday Agreement. He was rejailed last month, and Sinn Fein campaigned for him to be released.

Nowhere else in the world would that be allowed to happen.

LOL ya sure! they been saying things like this for years! OH, What did they use the 30million pounds of money they stole from that bank? To help distroy their weapons? Or get more?

I also disagree with letting murderer's out of prision. And as for the IRA disarming I don't think so. the IRA has almost made the transition from politcal terrorists to a crinimal organisation all they have to do now is change their name.Very true. Whether the paramilitaries are actually committing acts of terrorism these days or not, they're all running drug rackets and ruling their respective communities in which ordinary, law abiding residents live in fear.

Praise be.

Oh hey, when I was in Ireland in 1992 most of the locals I spoke to about the Northern Ireland situation said that Ireland couldn't support Northern Ireland, even if they did re-unify. Now that Ireland's economy has taken off and they are doing so well, has there been any change in Irish attitudes to re-unifying with Northern Ireland? Any Irish online care to comment?
Yes things have changed, those people are no longer scared of loss of money, they are now scared of loyalist violence should Ireland reunite. These people are cowards that are just afraid of anything disrupting thier lives the way they have it. People not from Ireland will think im crazy, but Irish people know who im talking about, they originate from Donnybrook, play rugby and write collums for the "indo", they are my sworn enemy! D4 bastards! Sorry most of you wont know what im rambling on about.

Anyway, point being, majority of Irish people in the south would love a united Ireland with no violence. But some people will always find something to complain about.

Very true. Whether the paramilitaries are actually committing acts of terrorism these days or not, they're all running drug rackets and ruling their respective communities in which ordinary, law abiding residents live in fear.
IRA may have been involved in "criminal activities" but have never pushed drugs, some other republican wannabe groups have, such as INLA. Loyalist paramilitary's make thier money from drugs, and thier is a turf war at the moment between a drug pushing loyalist group and an anti drug loyalist group.

My question now to republicans up north is without the IRA are they going to recognise the British law, i.e call police and such. I for one hope not as this would be giving up all thier beliefs.