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Osama bin Laden, the al Quaeda leader and all around asshole, came up with an evil plot to spike America's all-important cocaine supply with deadly poison, but was thwarted by the heroic efforts of Columbian drug cartels, who bravely defended the common American drug addict from this monstrous buzzkill.

www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,163633,00.html

Faux has just sunk a couple notches lower in my respect list.

A very important rule of business: Don't kill your customers.

Its like a plot from a Bond film

The source is the NYPost, so...

It's so stupid! Why would Osama want to kill off what could well be the most degenerate parts of American society? It would only make America stronger!

It's so stupid! Why would Osama want to kill off what could well be the most degenerate parts of American society? It would only make America stronger!

Because he'd kill them off anyway? The Taleban were the ones that brought control to poppy production in Afghanistan, after all.

So: kill Americans *and* clean up society. He double dips, at least in his own mind.

That story doesn't make any sense, on the one hand they say bin Laden had loads of money and wanted to buy masses of drugs and on the other they say he is behind a large drug dealing operation and makes his money from that. Which is it, they can't both be true?

Because he'd kill them off anyway? The Taleban were the ones that brought control to poppy production in Afghanistan, after all.

So: kill Americans *and* clean up society. He double dips, at least in his own mind.It's still stupid to believe that people dropping dead from coke will be attributed to Islamic Terror. First people would suspect the coke. Then the drug lords. Then they might find out it was Osama. To be honest, who'd believe Al Qaeda if they said they'd done something like this on one of their websites? If anything, they'd be suspected of attempting to gain credit for someone elses work.

It's so stupid! Why would Osama want to kill off what could well be the most degenerate parts of American society? It would only make America stronger!

i don't know....

what would the US do without all those politicians, lobbyists and lawyer???

i don't know....

what would the US do without all those politicians, lobbyists and lawyer???
I was wondering when someone would pick up on that :p

This makes baby Hitler cry. :(

Because he'd kill them off anyway? The Taleban were the ones that brought control to poppy production in Afghanistan, after all.

So: kill Americans *and* clean up society. He double dips, at least in his own mind.

S'funny. I thought the Taliban more or less crushed poppy production beneath their rule. Besides, doing something like this is silly. Anybody with a functional brain in planning would know that the drug lords and their entire distribution channels would be closed to spiked goods like that. Additionally, if you tried muscling in on their turf, how many of your own distributors would end up dead? There are better ways to go about killing people than with this half baked plan.

Capitalism in action! The Colombians know how it works; 'Try not to kill your clients.'.

Maybe Osama wanted the coke for himself, but didn't want to admit to the cartels that he has a "problem".

"I can stop anytime I want! I want this cocaine so I can... kill Americans with it! Yeah! That's the ticket!"

Thank goodness that the integrity of our cocaine supply remains intact.

fox cites the Post as their source. Has anyone found the original story yet?
I feels more like an onion story to me...
I've been doing some searches. I haven't found it just yet...

Thank goodness that the integrity of our cocaine supply remains intact.
Just goes to show that the terrorists can't touch the things that really matter.

http://www.kptv.com/Global/story.asp?S=3641476

Just look at the cover of the New York Post, and tell me if it doesn't remind you of a supermarket tabloid...

http://www.kptv.com/Global/story.asp?S=3641476

Just look at the cover of the New York Post, and tell me if it doesn't remind you of a supermarket tabloid...
Dude, the Post is a tabloid.

S'funny. I thought the Taliban more or less crushed poppy production beneath their rule.

:confused: Isn't that what I said?

There are better ways to go about killing people than with this half baked plan.

I guess the antrax in the mail didn't seem like a good plan, given the results the other folks had with it...

Dude, the Post is a tabloid.

Thanks. On an unrelated note, an Angel struck by lightening was nursed back to health by local farmers who found him bunt near to a crisp with their pigs.
Also, the world will come to an end later this year, as Nostrodamus, Our Lady of Fatima and Mother Theresa agree.

Dude, the Post is a tabloid.

Hey, what do you expect for $0.25? ;)

PS- No worse than The Guardian...

Thanks. On an unrelated note, an Angel struck by lightening was nursed back to health by local farmers who found him bunt near to a crisp with their pigs.
Also, the world will come to an end later this year, as Nostrodamus, Our Lady of Fatima and Mother Theresa agree.
Now that's my kind of news!

Makes me proud being half-Colombian. :D Heheh.

Then again, what does it say about us when the only ones that can protect our citizens are Colombian Drug Lords? :eek:

EDIT: Jay Leno made a joke about this...it MUST be real!

Makes me proud being half-Colombian. :D Heheh.

Then again, what does it say about us when the only ones that can protect our citizens are Colombian Drug Lords? :eek:

EDIT: Jay Leno made a joke about this...it MUST be real!
The government can't really police an industry that it has driven underground. That's why we have the mafia, street gangs and cartels. When somebody does something to threaten the industry the professionals take action.

The government can't really police an industry that it has driven underground. That's why we have the mafia, street gangs and cartels. When somebody does something to threaten the industry the professionals take action.
Well thank goodness the terrorists know they're fighting a losing battle when even Colombian Drug Lords refuse to sell out us Americans!

See? The world DOES love us! Or at least love our money...

oh yes, thousands of dead coke heads, that will surely scare the america populace :rolleyes:

Ihatevacations']oh yes, thousands of dead coke heads, that will surely scare the america populace :rolleyes:

I'd be more afraid if thousand of (living) deadheads suddenly went back for their college degrees... :D

"...oh well the touch of grey... kinda suits you anyway..."

Because he'd kill them off anyway? The Taleban were the ones that brought control to poppy production in Afghanistan, after all.


Taliban controlled poppy production as in they destroyed the poppy fields of other warlords but allowed certain areas to cultivate poppies as long as the drugs went to other countries and they profited from it.

Drug trafficking with sourcing poppies from Taliban controlled Afghanistan was a big business and the biggest revenue generator for the Paki jihadi orgs.

Osama bin Laden, the al Quaeda leader and all around asshole, came up with an evil plot to spike America's all-important cocaine supply with deadly poison, but was thwarted by the heroic efforts of Columbian drug cartels, who bravely defended the common American drug addict from this monstrous buzzkill.

www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,163633,00.htmlThank goodness that our all-important cocaine supply is still safe... :D

And thumbs up for the heroic efforts of Columbian drug cartels...God Bless them. :D :D :D

I'd love to see a Columbian drug cartel get their hands on Bin-Laden before the US does. I'd honestly and sincerely love for that to happen.

I'd love to see a Columbian drug cartel get their hands on Bin-Laden before the US does. I'd honestly and sincerely love for that to happen.Now that Osama almost ruined them (killing all their costumers)...they would chainsaw him. :mp5: :sniper: :mp5: :mp5: :sniper:

Ihatevacations']oh yes, thousands of dead coke heads, that will surely scare the america populace :rolleyes:

Hey, you should be grateful-thanks to the Cartels, most of your Hollywood Heroes are still alive.

Are there any cocaine addicts out there who are relieved that their cocaine is only somewhat deadly?

Thank god for the Colombian drug cartels, I always knew we could count on them to fight the evil terrorists. But we must be ever-vigilant. The terrorists could target our heroin supply next.

Wow! Just imagine all the dead DEA agents! :eek:

;)

This really reinforces my belief that Osama doesn't understand his enemy.

Are there any cocaine addicts out there who are relieved that their cocaine is only somewhat deadly?
I'm sure that there are plenty.

Osama bin Laden, the al Quaeda leader and all around asshole, came up with an evil plot to spike America's all-important cocaine supply with deadly poison, but was thwarted by the heroic efforts of Columbian drug cartels, who bravely defended the common American drug addict from this monstrous buzzkill.

www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,163633,00.html
Dude, if you believe that then you believe anything. But you probably do anyway :(

Dude, if you believe that then you believe anything. But you probably do anyway :(

Honestly, I'm pretty skeptical about this story too. Cocaine depletes our nation's wealth because it takes money out of the country, it fosters all sorts of related criminal activities (such as thefts to support the drug), and it causes serious health problems that, in return, burden our country (when the coke addicts get jacked up or sick, they're removing themselves as contributors to society and instead becoming dependents). Why would Bin Laden want to interfere with that? Plus, if Al-Quaeda is sending Heroin into the country (which I believe it is), why not just taint that? Maybe he was hoping that he could kill alot of people and get people to switch from cocaine to heroin.

Honestly, I'm pretty skeptical about this story too. Cocaine depletes our nation's wealth because it takes money out of the country, it fosters all sorts of related criminal activities (such as thefts to support the drug), and it causes serious health problems that, in return, burden our country (when the coke addicts get jacked up or sick, they're removing themselves as contributors to society and instead becoming dependents). Why would Bin Laden want to interfere with that? Plus, if Al-Quaeda is sending Heroin into the country (which I believe it is), why not just taint that? Maybe he was hoping that he could kill alot of people and get people to switch from cocaine to heroin.Its a well known fact that Muslim fundamentalist hate drugs...They have death penalties for almost all drug related crimes...

It is also well know that...once the Talibans were taken out of Power...heroin production resurged big time...

Cocaine is the 'rich person' drug. Found in bathrooms in parlement remember?

Poison this you could kill lots of politicians and rich folk.

Cocaine is the 'rich person' drug. Found in bathrooms in parlement remember?

Poison this you could kill lots of politicians and rich folk.
Plus a bunch of constructions workers, garbagemen, drug dealers, prostitutes, and other non-rich folks. There are alot of people from every socioeconomic group who use cocaine.

Plus a bunch of constructions workers, garbagemen, drug dealers, prostitutes, and other non-rich folks. There are alot of people from every socioeconomic group who use cocaine.

Yeah, and a lot of the lower class people use heroin and other stuff as well.

However, cocaine is the drug of choice if you want to poison the elite. Theye weren't aiming for the dregs of socieity, they were aiming for the elites.

Yeah, and a lot of the lower class people use heroin and other stuff as well.

However, cocaine is the drug of choice if you want to poison the elite. Theye weren't aiming for the dregs of socieity, they were aiming for the elites.Hold on, how are lawyers, politicians, and game show hosts not the dregs of society? Or at least the ones that take coke?

Are there any cocaine addicts out there who are relieved that their cocaine is only somewhat deadly?

Thats got to go in the sig

Hold on, how are lawyers, politicians, and game show hosts not the dregs of society? Or at least the ones that take coke?


Lawyers are in a profession of helping people. What has a lawyer ever done to you?

Its a well known fact that Muslim fundamentalist hate drugs...They have death penalties for almost all drug related crimes...

It is also well know that...once the Talibans were taken out of Power...heroin production resurged big time...


Heroin production was legal under the Taliban until the last few years of their rule. But you're right in that the drug's production was tremendously curtailed when they made it illegal.

I'm pretty sure that "it's a well known fact" that Muslim fundamentalists are opposed to murder too. If I'm not mistaken, that ends the debate.

Also, I'm not sure if we should be distinguishing between Muslim fundamentalists and Muslim extremists... Thoughts?

The government can't really police an industry that it has driven underground. That's why we have the mafia, street gangs and cartels. When somebody does something to threaten the industry the professionals take action.Ah, the free market in action - a beautiful thing.


Actually, this sounds like a wholly made-up story. The NY Post isn't exactly in the business of printing stories about bat boy's illegitimate half-alien child, but they're not above pulling shit out of their collective ass.

Heroin production was legal under the Taliban until the last few years of their rule. But you're right in that the drug's production was tremendously curtailed when they made it illegal. ...u have a link for that?
I'm pretty sure that "it's a well known fact" that Muslim fundamentalists are opposed to murder too. If I'm not mistaken, that ends the debate.

Every culture of the planet is opposed to murder...what is your point??...and how the hell that ends the debate?

Every culture of the planet is opposed to murder...what is your point??...and how the hell that ends the debate?
The debate is OVER!

...u have a link for that?

Map of Afghan drug trade route (http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/SRR/Volume13/drug%20essay%201.jpg)

This map describes opium trade routes emanating from Eastern Afghanistan into Pakistan through the North West Frontier Province and Punjab. The triangles symbolize Heroin laboratories.

More maps here

http://www.pa-chouvy.org/indexcartes.html



This drug route worked both ways. Sending drug out and bringing arms in.

Article dated June 2001.
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/MONITOR/ISSUE3-6/bahroo.html
The Taliban government has a war chest of about $100 million. Most of their revenues are generated from smuggling trade with Pakistan via the Afghan Trade Transit (ATT). Another significant source of income is the revenue from the poppy crop, generating a minimum of $20 million. The Taliban have provided Islamic sanction for opium growth, it is estimated that Afghanistan produced $3 billion worth of heroin or about 50% of the world supply

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/MONITOR/ISSUE6-3/bahroo.html
Afghanistan has for years been one of the major sources of illicit opium in the world. In the 1990’s it was the source for approximately half of the world’s opium production. The Opium business and war have been interlinked from the early days of Afghanistan. During the 1980’s many warlords sold opium in raise funds. The Taliban were well connected and financed by the drug and transport mafias in Pakistan, exacerbated this trend. As they imposed uniform authority over the main poppy cultivating areas, they were able to provide an easier and less expensive way for drugs to be shipped out and in the process generated revenue that would be used to wage war.

http://cfrterrorism.org/afghanistan/taliban2.html
How did the Taliban fund themselves?
The biggest source of the Taliban’s revenue was drugs, according to Rashid. The second largest was its tax on the country’s vast smuggling trade.

Were the Taliban involved in the drug trade?
Deeply. Under their rule, Afghanistan was the world’s biggest heroin maker and produced “three times more opium than the rest of the world put together,” Rashid writes. In 1999, Afghanistan produced more than a million pounds of raw opium. To assuage international ire, the Taliban banned the drug business in 2000, but seemed to be wavering shortly before they began losing their grip on power.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2001/10/04/MN67246.DTL

Opium is a major income source for Afghanistan's cash-strapped Taliban government, which has been receiving $20 million to $25 million a year from a tax on poppy production, according to Charles Diaz, a drug policy consultant to House Speaker Dennis Hastert, R-Ill.

The drug trade was the biggest revenue generator for the Taliban and their mentors - the Paki intelligence.

:confused: Isn't that what I said?


The way you wrote the post seemed like you said that poppy production rose under their rule. My bad.


I guess the antrax in the mail didn't seem like a good plan, given the results the other folks had with it...

Looking at the total casualties for something like this? It was a rotten plan. Airborne viruses are best distributed over the air, duh. Not through the mail where you only infect a limited number of people. Why not ventilation systems? Or a broken vial somewhere in a mass transit system? There are tons of better ways to achieve maximum possible spread of a virus over a wide an area as possible than through the mail.

That's just lame.

It's so stupid! Why would Osama want to kill off what could well be the most degenerate parts of American society? It would only make America stronger!
Coccaine isn't a cheap drug, plenty of rich businessmen do it.

Need a buzz?

http://www.poorbuthappy.com/colombia/node/8573

The same story was published by El Pais and CNN but I haven't tracked those links yet.

Faux has just sunk a couple notches lower in my respect list.
I don't suppose you have some cogent reason for blaming the messenger?

Coccaine isn't a cheap drug, plenty of rich businessmen do it.
So rich=not-degerate? Hmm. Fascinating conclusion. :rolleyes:

Its a well known fact that Muslim fundamentalist hate drugs...They have death penalties for almost all drug related crimes...
But only for Muslims. It's perfectly ok to sell drugs to unbelievers, to kidnap them into slavery, to sell the women as prostitutes, etc. No, I don't think that's in the Q'ran, but it's either part of shira law or an accepted practice.

It's so stupid! Why would Osama want to kill off what could well be the most degenerate parts of American society? It would only make America stronger!
Only "degenerates" use cocaine?

Only "degenerates" use cocaine?George Bush Fits the bill. Shame on you... :D

George Bush Fits the bill. Shame on you... :D
I wonder if George the Younger's ears perked up when he heard his daddy proclaim: "I will draw a line in the sand".

Ah, those lovely fluffy Colombian drug lords. Sorry, government. Sorry, who we talking about again?

US foreign policy at its very worst.

I wonder if George the Younger's ears perked up when he heard his daddy proclaim: "I will draw a line in the sand".
http://forum.chupa-mos.com/images/smilie/smile.gif :D Keep 'em coming.

Makes me proud being half-Colombian. :D Heheh.

Then again, what does it say about us when the only ones that can protect our citizens are Colombian Drug Lords? :eek:

It says you need to learn more about the relationship between US and Colombia.

http://www.colombiajournal.org/colombia114.htm