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What do you personally belive should be the minimum legal age for the following:

- Sexual consent

- Driving car/motorcycle

- Drinking alcohol

- Voting

- Owning a gun

Should they all be set at 18, or 21? Should they all be different? What do you think?

Sexual Consent - 16
Driving - 17
Alcohol - 18 (although kids are just as able to get alcohol at any age but at least this makes it more of a challenge)
Voting - 18
Owning a gun - I'm anti-gun so I dont have an age of consent on this

Sexual consent - 14

Driving car/motorcycle - 15

Drinking alcohol - 17

Voting - 16

Owning a gun - never

Sexual Consent - 15, as it is where I live. It's a good age.
Driving - 18
Alcohol - 18, and that's 18 everywhere. Not 18 in bars, and 21 in liquor stores.
Voting - 18.
Owning a gun - 25, heavily regulated, only used for hunting.

What do you personally belive should be the minimum legal age for the following:

- Sexual consent

- Driving car/motorcycle

- Drinking alcohol

- Voting

- Owning a gun

Should they all be set at 18, or 21? Should they all be different? What do you think?

Consent 13
Driving same system
Alcohol no limit
voting no limit as long as they pass an exam to see if they know what is going on
owning a gun 7

Sexual consent:16

Driving car/motorcycle:17

Drinking alcohol:14

Voting:18

Owning a gun:18, if ever

Sexual consent - Who cares, it's not like it makes any difference, but in order to prosecute people (ie the real offenders) I'd say 13/14.

Driving car - hard one. Maybe 17 for women and 20 for men.

Drinking alcohol - 18.

Voting - 18, I think.

Owning a gun - military/license only.

- Sexual consent

i think a reasonable age of consent is 13 these days.

- Driving car/motorcycle

car 16 with good supervision, motorcycle 18, lower powered motorized scooters, 16

- Drinking alcohol

18, 16 with direct parental supervision

- Voting

18

- Owning a gun

18, shooting a gun, 12 with close parental supervision, 16 with certified training

Sexual Consent should be 16 for everyone boys and girls.

Driving I will say permit at 15, one year of permit driving and license at 16.

Alcohol I will say 18 everywhere.

Voting as well should be 16. Being that in America most kids start working then, they are paying taxes too and should have just as much of a right to choose.

Owning a gun is a bit tricky. I will say hunting rifles at 15 and other firearms at 21.

Driving car - hard one. Maybe 17 for women and 20 for men.


That is sexist. The male version of the feminists would protest

Sexual consent - 14 boys and girls
Driving - 15 permit, 16 license
Alcohol - no limit
Voting - allowed regardless at 18, but avaliable earlier should they pass a test of judgement, current events and ELP systems knowledge.
Gun - 18

What do you personally belive should be the minimum legal age for the following:

- Sexual consent

- Driving car/motorcycle

- Drinking alcohol

- Voting

- Owning a gun

Should they all be set at 18, or 21? Should they all be different? What do you think?

1: 16

2: permit at 15, full licence 18 or two years after permit, whichever is later

3: 18

4: 18

5: 12, for youth permit full licence at 18. Under 12, direct supervison of parent/adult!

Sexual Consent- 25+ Marriage

Drving- 16(same)

Alchohol- Prescribed Only, Recreational banned (prohibitionist)

Voting- 15, A or B student, 18, worse grades, C, D, F (Only fair, Smart ones shouldn't wait)

Gun- 18 (Just to be safe)

What do you personally belive should be the minimum legal age for the following:

- Sexual consent

18 for heterosexual or homosexual contact.

- Driving car/motorcycle

18

- Drinking alcohol

18 for purchasing alcohol, but 14 for consuming alcohol under adult supervision.

- Voting

21

- Owning a gun

21

Should they all be set at 18, or 21? Should they all be different? What do you think?

- Sexual consent: 14

- Driving car/motorcycle: 18

- Drinking alcohol: 16 for light stuff, 18 for the hard stuff

- Voting: 18

- Owning a gun: 21


Frankly, most of the things are self explanatory, but here goes:
Sexual consent at 14 is a realistic age, that's the main reason.
Driving at 18 is fine, has a bit to do with the alcohol reasoning I have.
Alcohol should be made available before being allowed to drive, so you can see what it does to you and so you can test your limits before you hit the streets.
Voting is fine at age 18, but under no conditions should it be less, since 18 is a rather immature age already.
Owning a gun would probably be best at age 21 in my opinion, when the owner is unlikely to be going to school anymore and just might be responsible enough to own one.

Sexual Consent - 16
Driver's License - 16
Alcohol - 17 ( Give them a year with driving and seeing how drunk driving really fucks you up. Then allow them to drink. )
Voting - 18 ( Wait untill your out of Highschool so your not around a whole bunch of ass holes at school that will beat you up because you like R over D or D over R. )
Gun Ownership - Any age as long as a parent teaches them or a professional or someone with a brain teaches them. Also watches them untill they are 13 or just fit enough to get there own license.

What do you personally belive should be the minimum legal age for the following:

- Sexual consent

- Driving car/motorcycle

- Drinking alcohol

- Voting

- Owning a gun

Should they all be set at 18, or 21? Should they all be different? What do you think?



Didn't we have this exact thread not too long ago? Anyway:

1. 18

2. 18 (What can I say, I hate inexperienced, reckless drivers)

3. Never (Yes, we prohibitionists still exist :p )

4. 19

5. If this is referring to owning instead of being able to use one, 18

Consent: 18, 16 if the older person is under 20.
Driving: 18 again is alright.
Drinking: 20, just to reduce teen drunk driving incidents.
Voting: 18 is fine.
Gun Ownership: 22. Just feels right.

- Sexual consent - 16

- Driving car/motorcycle - 18

- Drinking alcohol - 20

- Voting - 20

- Owning a gun - 18 for hunting purposes only.

I tend to think some of the ages are too low in some areas, and I don't think _I_ was responsible enough at the ages I started doing things, let alone other kids I see today.

Didn't we have this exact thread not too long ago? Anyway:

1. 18

2. 18 (What can I say, I hate inexperienced, reckless drivers)

3. Never (Yes, we prohibitionists still exist :p )

4. 19

5. If this is referring to owning instead of being able to use one, 18


Yes! There Are Others Like Me! Prescription drugs only, recreational banned.

I'm not alone!

What do you personally belive should be the minimum legal age for the following:

- Sexual consent

- Driving car/motorcycle

- Drinking alcohol

- Voting

- Owning a gun

Should they all be set at 18, or 21? Should they all be different? What do you think?

Sexual consent - 12, as they're going to start doing it at that age anyway.

Driving - 16 after passing driver's ed course

Drinking - 18, as it's too hard to stop them after that

Voting - 18, if you can be drafted at 18 you should be able to vote, too.

Owning a gun - never, except for military and police, FBI, Secret Service, ATF, CIA etc., and then you should be at least 18 to join.

Sexual consent - 16

Driving car/motorcycle - 17

Drinking alcohol - 16

Voting - 16 (you pay taxes at 16, so you should be able to tell the government what to do with your money, as far as possible)

Owning a gun - Never

1. Whenever the parents decide it’s ok until 18, then it doesn’t matter what the parents say, legally.
2. 16. The problem with accidents among teens is inexperience. It takes five years to develop the skills of the average driver. Therefore, by 21-22 a driver is relatively safe as long as they have been driving.
3 Whenever the parents decide its ok, until 18, then it doesn’t matter what the parents say, legally.
4. 18.
5. Owning 18. Using without parental supervision, 14. With parental supervision, 8.

LOL WHo would ever prescribe alcohol for anyone? That's the silliest thing I've ever heard.
Doc: "Son, you need to relax, and have a good time out partying. I say you need some alcohol in your system. Booyah!"

1. Whenever the parents decide it’s ok until 18, then it doesn’t matter what the parents say, legally.
2. 16. The problem with accidents among teens is inexperience. It takes five years to develop the skills of the average driver. Therefore, by 21-22 a driver is relatively safe as long as they have been driving.
3 Whenever the parents decide its ok, until 18, then it doesn’t matter what the parents say, legally.
4. 18.
5. Owning 18. Using without parental supervision, 14. With parental supervision, 8.



Let's at let the brain have at least 2 more years of development before letting them behind the wheel :(

Let's at let the brain have at least 2 more years of development before letting them behind the wheel :(I agree with Neo R! Who'd have thought it possible?

I mean as doctor drugs. Some drugs can be used as an additional painkiller in more gruesome and painful cases. Doctors should do what they can.

LOL WHo would ever prescribe alcohol for anyone? That's the silliest thing I've ever heard.
Doc: "Son, you need to relax, and have a good time out partying. I say you need some alcohol in your system. Booyah!"

When you get methonal poisining, they give you an IV shot full of ethanol (The alchol you drink)

- Sexual consent

18 for heterosexual or homosexual contact.



As opposed to?

Let's at let the brain have at least 2 more years of development before letting them behind the wheel :(
So, then people won’t be average drivers until they are 24-25. Yeah, real efficient. Plus, sixteen year olds need to be able to drive so that they can fill their place in the work force.

So, then people won’t be average drivers until they are 24-25. Yeah, real efficient. Plus, sixteen year olds need to be able to drive so that they can fill their place in the work force.Not necessarily. Them not being able to find a job as easily at age 16 could be great incentive to continue school to a slightly later date.

- Sexual consent: 18
- Driving car/motorcycle - 18
- Drinking alcohol - 21 anywhere
- Voting - 18
- Owning a gun - i'm anti-gun, so i really don't think anyone except maybe police officers, should have them.

I'm surprised at some of the answers for sexual consent. Consenting at 12 or 13 years old? Personally, I don't even think 16 and 17 year olds should be having sex. Where do you draw the line for a 12 year old consenting to have sex with a 40 year old?

As opposed to?As opposed to having a different age for each.

As opposed to having a different age for each.

At first I thought you just wrote it to show you are tolerent. Hmm. Then again there is also bisexual contact...or is there?

Sexual consent - 14, but 16 if the older partner is 18+

Driving car/motorcycle - 17

Drinking alcohol - 16

Voting - after passing a test on politics and current affairs, or at 18, whichever comes first

Owning a gun - Never

Age limits are the one of the worst ideas in the world. Let me explain why.

Age limits assume everybody matures at the same rate. That is not true. Here in The Great Sixth Reich, we make everybody take extensive, rigurous testing for each of those "age limits" (plus more), allowing those who are capabable of performing those actions get a "license". Yes, that means that a license for sex is mandatory before having it (with a seperate test for pregnancy as well), and people are fined if they do not obey the law.

Oh, and there should be no voting. ;)

Not necessarily. Them not being able to find a job as easily at age 16 could be great incentive to continue school to a slightly later date.
There are certain industries that depend on young workers. Fast food, grocery stores etc.

Age limits are the one of the worst ideas in the world. Let me explain why.

Age limits assume everybody matures at the same rate. That is not true. Here in The Great Sixth Reich, we make everybody take extensive, rigurous testing for each of those "age limits" (plus more), allowing those who are capabable of performing those actions get a "license". Yes, that means that a license for sex is mandatory before having it (with a seperate test for pregnancy as well), and people are fined if they do not obey the law.

Oh, and there should be no voting. ;)

Similar to Jibea, but since our citizens fear us, we just tell them what to do, and if they don't, we kill them. If they do, then we remove a limb. It's a win-win situation for the state.

Sex - 13, both sexes, but 17 if the other is >=19
Driving - 15, after a year of driving school and after multiple tests
Drinking - none (allowed at any age)
Voting - 16 if they can pass a test, 18 otherwise
Gun ownership - 21, heavily restricted, requires licensing and passing tests

Similar to Jibea, but since our citizens fear us, we just tell them what to do, and if they don't, we kill them. If they do, then we remove a limb. It's a win-win situation for the state.

Ja, but you guys don't have die autobahn! :p

- Sexual consent: 15/physical maturity of both individuals(if they arn't by age 15)
- Driving car/motorcycle: 20
- Drinking alcohol: never
- Voting: whenever they can pass a rather complicated test(but they only have to take it once, and then can always vote after that) with a minimum age of 12
- Owning a gun: 16

so, pretty much like what it is now.

Age limits are the one of the worst ideas in the world. Let me explain why.

Age limits assume everybody matures at the same rate. That is not true. Here in The Great Sixth Reich, we make everybody take extensive, rigurous testing for each of those "age limits" (plus more), allowing those who are capabable of performing those actions get a "license". Yes, that means that a license for sex is mandatory before having it (with a seperate test for pregnancy as well), and people are fined if they do not obey the law.

Oh, and there should be no voting. ;)
Meh, too much paper work. Better to have an age when they're allowed to. ;)

Consent: 18, 16 if the older person is under 20.


I like that idea, i'm going with it.

Driving car/motorcycle: 16

Drinking alcohol: 21, your brain is not fully developed until then, so alcohol is harmfull.

Voting: Whenever you are paying taxes and can pass a test similar to a citizenship test. (And this means that if you are 40 and living on welfare, contributing nothing, you don't get to vote)

Owning a gun: 16 for owning a gun, but you must pass a safety exam first. 12 for shooting a gun under adult supervision.

At first I thought you just wrote it to show you are tolerent. Hmm. Then again there is also bisexual contact...or is there?You don't have to be a certain sexual orientation to have sex with someone else. ;)

As you can tell, I wrote that to indicate that I think 18 should be the age of consent, period. I think exhaustive testing such as The Great Sixth Reich suggests is impractical when you're talking about a ginormous national government which would be the case if we ran countries that had populations nearing 3 billion.

Even in countries the size of Australia, for example, it would be impractical to make decisions like that on a case by case basis. Yes, there are probably 14 year olds who are mature enough to decide when to have sex and there are 30 year olds who probably shouldn't be voting. But the government can't possibly evaluate every single person, and applying the same standards to people from different socio-economic backgrounds is foolhardy.

There are certain industries that depend on young workers. Fast food, grocery stores etc.Trust me, if they couldn't rely one young workers they'd find them somewhere else. Besides, its only a two years difference. You can do jobs in fast food and grocery stores without having to drive anything.

Sexual Consent 15 if there is less then a 2 year age difference 18 if there is a greater then two year age difference

Driving 18
Alcohol 18
Voting 18
Gun ownership 18

- Sexual consent: Once you have reached physical sexual maturity.
- Driving car/motorcycle: Once you prove that you are capable of driving safely and controlling your vehicle (if you can pass the test, you can drive)
- Drinking alcohol: Limit of one drink in your home with your family before the age of 14.
Limit of three drinks until you reach the age of majority.
Once you are 18, you have the right to do whatever you want to your body. No limit on drinks.
- Voting: 12. Most young people are too apathetic to vote, those of us who would make the effort to get to the polls deserve a vote.
- Owning a gun: If you can make it to the age of 130, the state gives you a gun for free. No guns for the rest of us.

I am amazed at the amount of people that are for increasing sexual and substance freedoms and ages but are for restricting property freedoms (guns)

I think exhaustive testing such as The Great Sixth Reich suggests is impractical when you're talking about a ginormous national government which would be the case if we ran countries that had populations nearing 3 billion.

Even in countries the size of Australia, for example, it would be impractical to make decisions like that on a case by case basis. Yes, there are probably 14 year olds who are mature enough to decide when to have sex and there are 30 year olds who probably shouldn't be voting. But the government can't possibly evaluate every single person, and applying the same standards to people from different socio-economic backgrounds is foolhardy.

It's hardly "exhaustive". It's a standardized test (changed every year) (plus a practical part for driving, flying, swiming, and shooting), given once a year at major government office locations. Which means we only have to do tests once a year, which are all graded by computerized equipment (practical sections are graded by the instructor), which means we do a lot less work. ;)

EDIT:

Complete List of Testing

Autobahn (The only restricted test by brain development. Once the brain is fully developed for the person in question, the person may take the test. Consists of a practical section and a standardized section.)
Treiben (Driving) (Practical and standardized sections.)
Pistolenerschießung (Pistol Shooting) (Required before pistol ownership. Practical and standardized sections.)
Schrottflintenerschießung (Shotgun Shooting) (Required before shotgun ownership. Practical and standardized sections.)
Gewehrschießend (Rifle Shooting) (Required before rifle ownership. Practical and standardized sections.)
Automatisches Gewehr/Bearbeitet Gewehr Schießend (Automatic Rifle and Machine Gun Test. (Required before Automatic Rifle OR Machine Gun ownership. Practical and standardized sections.)
Alkohol Trinkend (Required before swimming. Practical and standardized sections.)
Schwimmen (Swimming) (Required before swimming. Practical and standardized sections.)
Sporttauchen (Scuba Diving) (Required before scuba diving. Practical and standardized sections.)
Fliegen (Flying) (Required before flying. Practical and standardized sections.)
Ehe (Marriage) (Required before marriage. Standardized.)
Reproduktion (Reproduction) (Required before reproduction. Standardized.)
Schwangerschaft (Pregnancy) (Required before Pregnancy. Standardized.)

It's hardly "exhaustive". It's a standardized test (changed every year) (plus a practical part for driving, flying, swiming, and shooting), given once a year at major government office locations. Which means we only have to do tests once a year, which are all graded by computerized equipment (practical sections are graded by the instructor), which means we do a lot less work. ;)
But then we are putting the government in position of creating/administering a test to who can choose a portion of the next government …

Kind of scary

But then we are putting the government in position of creating/administering a test to who can choose a portion of the next government …

Kind of scary

There isn't a test for voting, because there is no voting. And did I mention there is no "next government"? :) Everybody's happy with the Monocracy system, since we have a particlarly good (doesn't oppress anybody and listens to the people) dictator who wouldn't die, because we have superior medical technology.

Plus, we do have Kaplan, Princeton Review, and SparkNotes test-prep books in The Great Sixth Reich, too.

There isn't a test for voting, because there is no voting. And did I mention there is no "next government"? :) Everybody's happy with the Monocracy system, since we have a particlarly good (doesn't oppress anybody and listens to the people) dictator who wouldn't die, because we have superior medical technology.

Plus, we do have Kaplan, Princeton Review, and SparkNotes test-prep books in The Great Sixth Reich, too.
Then why your proposed test?

i think
sexual consent: 14

driving: 17

alcohol: 16 beer & wine 18 for spirits (like in germany)

voting: 16

owning a gun: NEVER!!!!

What do you personally belive should be the minimum legal age for the following:

- Sexual consent

- Driving car/motorcycle

- Drinking alcohol

- Voting

- Owning a gun

Should they all be set at 18, or 21? Should they all be different? What do you think?
Sex=13
Car/motorcycle=16, but no license until 18
Alcohol=12 hours into the 21'st birthday.
Voting=13
Gun=21

Sexual Consent - 15 or 16
Driver's License - 17 permit, 18 License
Alcohol - 21
Voting - 18
Gun Ownership - 18=(Guns under .22 Caliber (Rifles Only) 21=(All Weapons)

"Even in countries the size of Australia, for example, it would be impractical to make decisions like that on a case by case basis. Yes, there are probably 14 year olds who are mature enough to decide when to have sex and there are 30 year olds who probably shouldn't be voting. But the government can't possibly evaluate every single person, and applying the same standards to people from different socio-economic backgrounds is foolhardy." (cant remember who posted this, but it caught my attention)

Hence the foolhardyness of mass organised goverenment. Age limits should be applyed on a personal basis (as all human beings are unique and cannot be forced into such a rigid system) - for the most part via good judgement from the parents (who, afterall, probably know their kids best).
In fact, biologicly speaking, the human mind does not fully develop (usually) untill the age of 25. So, technicaly (according to Proff Winston at least) most people can't make proper judgemants untill the age of 25. Clearly though - raising all age limits to the age of 25 would be just crazy.
Obviously the best way of learning would be from a liberal childhood, where children are made to learn from their own mistakes and experiance life - that is: learn about people and sex, learn to drink responsibly, learn to drive with consideration etc.
No doubt someone will reply to this with a complaint or sommat, yet i could go on in more detail, but will spare the rest of you the details of 'my views' and 'how it would work' - maybe just read "Small is Beautiful" by E.F. Schumacher (chapter 6 epescially).

oh yeah - almost forgot: democracy is balls (so no need to 'vote')

Then why your proposed test?

What did I say that provoked that response? :confused:

What did I say that provoked that response? :confused:
Sorry I misread your original statement I thought the testing included voting in the original post and then later on you said there would be no voting

My misread I am sorry

"Even in countries the size of Australia, for example, it would be impractical to make decisions like that on a case by case basis. Yes, there are probably 14 year olds who are mature enough to decide when to have sex and there are 30 year olds who probably shouldn't be voting. But the government can't possibly evaluate every single person, and applying the same standards to people from different socio-economic backgrounds is foolhardy." (cant remember who posted this, but it caught my attention)

Hence the foolhardyness of mass organised goverenment. Age limits should be applyed on a personal basis (as all human beings are unique and cannot be forced into such a rigid system) - for the most part via good judgement from the parents (who, afterall, probably know their kids best).
In fact, biologicly speaking, the human mind does not fully develop (usually) untill the age of 25. So, technicaly (according to Proff Winston at least) most people can't make proper judgemants untill the age of 25. Clearly though - raising all age limits to the age of 25 would be just crazy.
Obviously the best way of learning would be from a liberal childhood, where children are made to learn from their own mistakes and experiance life - that is: learn about people and sex, learn to drink responsibly, learn to drive with consideration etc.
No doubt someone will reply to this with a complaint or sommat, yet i could go on in more detail, but will spare the rest of you the details of 'my views' and 'how it would work' - maybe just read "Small is Beautiful" by E.F. Schumacher (chapter 6 epescially).

oh yeah - almost forgot: democracy is balls (so no need to 'vote')


While I agree to an extent having the parent determine sexual age of maturity is just asking for massive loopholes in child abuse cases … there has to be SOME more oversight or general guidelines

- Sexual consent 15

- Driving car/motorcycle 16 (it's the legal age for employment, and it's usually a requirement to have reliable transportation, often your own.)

- Drinking alcohol - 18 (if you can die for your country, you should be able to have a damn beer!)

- Voting - 17, or with a GED or highschool diploma

- Owning a gun - 18

So, then people won’t be average drivers until they are 24-25. Yeah, real efficient. Plus, sixteen year olds need to be able to drive so that they can fill their place in the work force.


They can get a ride from parents or take the bus.

Sexual consent:- 16

Driving car/motorcycle:- 16

Drinking alcohol:- 18

Voting:- 16

Owning a gun: 26* If they should even be allowed is another debate !!

They can get a ride from parents or take the bus.

In this day and age, that is often flat-out impossible. Believe it or not, there are towns of significant size that do not have public transportation at all. (I should know -- I live in one for most of the year!) Generally, parents work during the hours that a 16-year-old would be working -- at least, a 16 yr old who is still in school.

They can get a ride from parents or take the bus.
As I did when I started work at 15

- Sexual consent 16
- Driving car/motorcycle 16 (might want a car to have sex in)
- Drinking alcohol 16 (you'll it after those pregnancy results)
- Voting 16 (abortion laws,etc)
- Owning a gun 16 (when you find out its not yours.....)

What do you personally belive should be the minimum legal age for the following:

- Sexual consent

- Driving car/motorcycle

- Drinking alcohol

- Voting

- Owning a gun

Should they all be set at 18, or 21? Should they all be different? What do you think?

1. 16
2. 20
3. 20
4. 20
5. 18

In this day and age, that is often flat-out impossible. Believe it or not, there are towns of significant size that do not have public transportation at all. (I should know -- I live in one for most of the year!) Generally, parents work during the hours that a 16-year-old would be working -- at least, a 16 yr old who is still in school.


They could also walk if their place of employment is within 1-2 miles. It would be great exercise in any case.

- Sexual consent = 14
- Driving car/motorcycle = 16
- Drinking alcohol = 14
- Voting = 16
- Owning a gun = military/license only

What do you personally belive should be the minimum legal age for the following:

- Sexual consent

- Driving car/motorcycle

- Drinking alcohol

- Voting

- Owning a gun

Should they all be set at 18, or 21? Should they all be different? What do you think?

Sexual consent - 15

Driving car/motorcycle - 16

Drinking alcohol - 18

Voting - 16

Owning a gun - 21, and only for certain uses.

They could also walk if their place of employment is within 1-2 miles. It would be great exercise in any case.

If they are lucky enough to work so close to school or home, then that is an excellent idea when the weather permits.

If they are lucky enough to work so close to school or home, then that is an excellent idea when the weather permits.
Lol I managed to walk a mile to the buss stop every day 1st through 10th grade … I live in MINNESOTA lol

- Sexual consent - 16
- Driving car/motorcycle - 16
- Drinking alcohol - 16
- Voting - 18
- Owning a gun - 18

- Sexual consent- 18 (They will do it anyways) and it should be 19 for porn sites.

- Driving car/motorcycle- 16 when they start learning. and 18 when they get their full license

- Drinking alcohol- 19, and encourigment to drink spirits with more texture, flavour (like say, wine, and enjoy the taste and getting pleasenly drunk, not just to get dead drunk)

- Voting- 17

- Owning a gun- In a perfect world: never, Reality: 19 for hunting, 25 for non-hunting, with exception to police, military, etc.

- Owning a sword or other non-gun like weapon: 16, and the idiots deserve choping off their fingers if their that stupid.

- conscription/mandatory service: NEVER, and I would be a stupid choice for the military in almost all ways.

- Sexual consent- 18 (They will do it anyways) and it should be 19 for porn sites.

- Driving car/motorcycle- 16 when they start learning. and 18 when they get their full license

- Drinking alcohol- 19, and encourigment to drink spirits with more texture, flavour (like say, wine, and enjoy the taste and getting pleasenly drunk, not just to get dead drunk)

- Voting- 17

- Owning a gun- In a perfect world: never, Reality: 19 for hunting, 25 for non-hunting, with exception to police, military, etc.

- Owning a sword or other non-gun like weapon: 16, and the idiots deserve choping off their fingers if their that stupid.

- conscription/mandatory service: NEVER, and I would be a stupid choice for the military in almost all ways.


And why the 19 for porn?

Sexual consent should be 21(maybe even a required marriage license, I don't know but I do not like the existence of bastards, no offense to any that read this :D )

Driving a car should be 16, Motorcycle 21(driving test required for both)

Drinking alcohol should be 21

Voting should be based on testing or 21(which ever seems better)

Owning a gun should be 21(heavily regulated and only given with government sought permission)

Sexual consent: 12~14 depending on the end of puberty

Driving a car/motorcycle: 15 if they pass the test

Drinking alcohol: 13

Voting: Voluntary from 12 to 18, mandatory above 18

Owning a gun: 13

Sexual consent should be 21(maybe even a required marriage license, I don't know but I do not like the existence of bastards, no offense to any that read this :D )

That would be setting up a law that is both unreasonable to enforce or implement (not only would you be discriminating against those that don’t want to or can’t get married because of faith) but it is just setting up whatever belief spawned this type of rule to be the subject of deserved scorn

Sexual consent should be 21(maybe even a required marriage license, I don't know but I do not like the existence of bastards, no offense to any that read this :D )I resent that! :p

That would be setting up a law that is both unreasonable to enforce or implement (not only would you be discriminating against those that don’t want to or can’t get married because of faith) but it is just setting up whatever belief spawned this type of rule to be the subject of deserved scorn
Ok, so you disagree with it. Good for you, I disagree with other people on this forum too.

Sexual Consent: 15 (with 2 year limit until age 17)

Driving: 16 (with daytime restriction for the first 6 months)

Drinking: 21 for public drinking and 17 in the privacy of home with parental permission and supervision

Voting: 18

Gun Ownership: 12 with proper training, safety measures, parental supervision to age 18, tracking devices and strict enforcement from the state.

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Originally Posted by Neo Rogolia
Didn't we have this exact thread not too long ago? Anyway:

1. 18

2. 18 (What can I say, I hate inexperienced, reckless drivers)

3. Never (Yes, we prohibitionists still exist )

4. 19

5. If this is referring to owning instead of being able to use one, 18



Yes! There Are Others Like Me!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Defuniak
Prescription drugs only, recreational banned.


I'm not alone!Yes! There Are Others Like Me!

I'm not alone!


Im generally not a relativist. In fact, I hate relativism. But drinking is an important part in so many cultures that outlawing it just seems ridiculous. There is a difference between drinking and being drunk, and if youve never sat in a pub in Ireland with a great pint of guiness, enjoyed an italian meal with a glass of red wine, or just sat around with friends and a bottle of scotch then you are missing out on some of the greatest joys in life.

in response to the question, id say with sex it should be around 12 or 13 but with no more than say 3 years age difference under 16 and 4 years under 18.

driving should be about passing a test and thats it.

drinking should be about 15 or 16. i wouldnt object to a test for that either. (not so much a how much can you drink test, but more of a know your booze test. like the differences between bourbon scotch and irish whiskeys.)

voting should be 18 but younger if you can pass a test on the mechanics of how the government works.

owning a gun should be 18 or so.

Lol I managed to walk a mile to the buss stop every day 1st through 10th grade … I live in MINNESOTA lol

You must be well adjusted to the weather, then. I was kind of referring to the ridiculous amounts of rain my area has gotten this year -- we jokingly started calling the storms monsoons because we were up past our ankles in water. That's not normal for my area. You have to admit, it would be difficult to walk through that if you weren't expecting it.

You must be well adjusted to the weather, then. I was kind of referring to the ridiculous amounts of rain my area has gotten this year -- we jokingly started calling the storms monsoons because we were up past our ankles in water. That's not normal for my area. You have to admit, it would be difficult to walk through that if you weren't expecting it.
Yeah so is 2 foot of snow lol

What do you personally belive should be the minimum legal age for the following:

- Sexual consent- 16
- Driving car/motorcycle- 13 (only for me :p )
- Drinking alcohol- 18 (people can go to war at 18, but not drink?)
- Voting- 16
- Owning a gun- 25 (when the brain has finally finished developing)


answers in bold

- Sexual consent: 18. Don't ruin high school by getting pregnant

- Driving car/motorcycle: 15.

- Drinking alcohol: 18. You're an adult, why can't you drink?

- Voting: 18.

- Owning a gun: 18

- Sexual consent: 16

- Driving car/motorcycle: 16

- Drinking alcohol: 18

- Voting: 18

- Owning a gun:18

Sexual consent: 12-14, someplace in there

Driving: 14 or so (hey, if you can pass the courses and tests, why not?)

Drinking alcohol: None (on private property)

Purchasing alcohol: 16, maybe? (remember kids, prohibition always fails)

Voting: 16

Owning a gun: 14 or so (same deal as driving, really...)

Personally, it's kind of hard to set ages on most of these things, because a lot of it rests on the capabilities and responsibility of the person in question. There are 12-year-olds I'd trust more behind the wheel of a car than some 'adults'. :D

Sexual consent: 16

Driving a car/motorcycle: 14-Permit 16-License

Drinking alcohol: Whenever their parents say it's okay, or 18

Voting: 18

Owning a gun: never

So, pretty much the same except for guns and alcohol

20 for all

Oh my goodness do a lot of you set the age of sexual consent low. Did you all start having sex at that age? (12-14) I couldn't imagine being in 8th grade and having sex... Does mommy drive you over to your "boyfirend's" house to knock boots?!

I would say:

Sexual consent: 17
Driving:18
Drinking:20
Voting: Through Testing ONLY
Guns: 23

Oh my goodness do a lot of you set the age of sexual consent low. Did you all start having sex at that age? (12-14) I couldn't imagine being in 8th grade and having sex... Does mommy drive you over to your "boyfirend's" house to knock boots?!

I would say:

Sexual consent: 17
Driving:18
Drinking:20
Voting: Through Testing ONLY
Guns: 23
Nice trying to attempt to degrade others for their opinion by making it personal
And who makes the test to vote?

Nice trying to attempt to degrade others for their opinion by making it personal
And who makes the test to vote?

Good point, I've been following this thread for awhile now. Just not posting. It's very interesting the different points that have been made so far.

What do you personally belive should be the minimum legal age for the following:

- Sexual consent

- Driving car/motorcycle

- Drinking alcohol

- Voting

- Owning a gun

Should they all be set at 18, or 21? Should they all be different? What do you think?

For sexual consent, 18 is fine.

Driving? 16 or 18, it dosen't really matter.

Voting? 18 has worked out fine in the US (or maybe not...)

Owning a gun: 25 (and prefeably not at all)

Here's a few you didn't include- drinking and drafting.

Drinking? 21.

Drafting? 23. I make it this so no man will ever be drafted by a canidate who won an election he didn't vote for. (think about it... elections every four years, right? Guy is 17 when the elction happens. He dosen't vote. He cannot get drafted during that term of that administration.)

20 for all25 for all...

:p

And who makes the test to vote?Jeb Bush :D

Sexual consent: I'm unable to put a fixed age, because an individual's readyness to have sex comes not with age of the body (other than having gone through puberty) , but age of maturity.
Driving:16 and taking a test which is more demanding than the one now...also, it should have to be renewed with retaking the test every once and a while...perhaps every decade or so
Drinking:18-I agree with the argument that if one is legally an adult, can die in a war for thier country, and can vote, they should be able to drink as well.
Voting:18 and passing a test on the government's inner workings...this should have to be renewed by retaking a test every once and a while as well.
Guns: 18-the whole adult argument

Nice trying to attempt to degrade others for their opinion by making it personal
And who makes the test to vote?


My apologies, degredation was not my intention. I was simply shocked because to me it seems too young to have the full mental capacity to know what you're really undertaking, and I don't see how one could feasibly have the opportunity to have sex at the age of 12. I didn't mean to offend anyone.

As to your question, I would say the governmental body would make the test as they are the ones who are being voted for or against.

This is impossible. People mature so differntly my bets friend is three years older than me and doesn't give a damn about politics. I on the otehr hand read almost everything I can about them. Grades have nothing to do with it. Really just your intrest level. Unless your really dumb.

Sexual conset-When they stop growing.

Alchohal-when they stop growing mentally and phsyically.

Voting- Like I said it's difernt I really Belive I know most of the facts and would be willing to take the time to study some of the more obscure legislation. And this is from a fifteen year old.

Gun-Well depends really If your samrt you should be able to handle it but most people wise up at around twenty one so.. 21.

My apologies, degredation was not my intention. I was simply shocked because to me it seems too young to have the full mental capacity to know what you're really undertaking, and I don't see how one could feasibly have the opportunity to have sex at the age of 12. I didn't mean to offend anyone.

As to your question, I would say the governmental body would make the test as they are the ones who are being voted for or against.
As to point 1 I happen to concur

Point 2

Do you really think it is a good idea for a government to essentialy decide who gets to vote in the next election ... does that not seem horribly abusable

All they have to do is stack the questions so thoes in their normal demographics get statisticaly higher scores and bam there you go a theocracy :rolleyes: thoes in power get to make sure they stay in power

Do you really think it is a good idea for a government to essentialy decide who gets to vote in the next election ... does that not seem horribly abusable

All they have to do is stack the questions so thoes in their normal demographics get statisticaly higher scores and bam there you go a theocracy :rolleyes: thoes in power get to make sure they stay in power

Hmm... I'm not sure how it would work then in my ideal world. I really don't think that just anyone should be able to vote, and I can't really think of a good body to make a test that wouldn't be biased. Perhaps if all of the party from the largest to smallest made the test together in some sort of conference every 5 or so years... I'm not sure.

I am curious though, as to when some of you began to have sex and whether that has tempered your answers to the first portion any... perhaps this should be a thread in it's own, but if you want, feel free to answer.

I personally began having sex at 17.

Hmm... I'm not sure how it would work then in my ideal world. I really don't think that just anyone should be able to vote, and I can't really think of a good body to make a test that wouldn't be biased. Perhaps if all of the party from the largest to smallest made the test together in some sort of conference every 5 or so years... I'm not sure.

I am curious though, as to when some of you began to have sex and whether that has tempered your answers to the first portion any... perhaps this should be a thread in it's own, but if you want, feel free to answer.

I personally began having sex at 17.
20 ... other things at 18 ... I was a slow starter lol

First, I must say I'm rather disgusted -- but not shocked -- by the notion that 12 or 13 year old children should be able to legally consent to sex.

I've always felt an inate injustice in the way the government decides who can do what at what age. You can be tried as an adult at age 18 yet not be able to drink. You can be taxed while working after school at 14, yet have no representation in government. The list goes on and on.

There should simply be one age when you are an adult, period. Up until that point you are under the control of your legal guardians and they decide what you can and cannot do. Of course, if your legal guardians are unfit, there would have to be some process to become emancipated.

So I'd say 18 years old for all of the below, with an exception being that if you pay have to pay to taxes, you must be allowed to vote.

Also, the notion of "testing" for voting is the most unjust, immoral, utterly worst things you could ever do. Voting is a basic right in any type of free society and putting that up to any type of test is simply mind boggling. It's the exact reason why the government must protect basic rights, otherwise 51% of the country can strip away all the rights of the other 49%.

Actually I guess another exception would be driving, since driving is not a right, I'd leave that one up to state legislatures to decide for themselves.

The age of consent for sex should be 18 simply as a formality. It has to be there to protect innocent children. If you're 16 and having "consentual" sex then the law really doesn't apply, because who is going to turn you in? I guess it would kind of be a "don't ask, don't tell" policy

14- Sexual consent

16- Driving car/motorcycle

20- Drinking alcohol

16- Voting

20- Owning a gun

- Sexual consent age should be 16

- Driving car/motorcycle age should be 18

- Drinking alcohol age should be 18

- Voting age should be 18

- Owning a gun age should be 21 with regulation and permits for hunting and target shooting.

Sexual consent: It's a law that's impossible to enfore, but I'd say 16. A lot of people (well most where I live) start younger than that, but you have to draw the line somewhere. Plus if you go any younger you're in risky territory in regards to paedophilia, and/or twattish men taking advantage of teenage girls (once again, happens a lot round here).

Driving car/motorcycle: I know in a lot of countries it's 16, or in some cases 15. This is too young in my opinion. I am 16, and I don't think many of my peers have the necessary maturity to get behind the wheel of a car. I don't think there's an age that would suit everybody: some people might be ready to handle the responsibility at 17, some might not. I'd go for 17 for those with an IQ of 105+. Anyone else should wait till 18, or in some cases later. It's the sort of thing that should be done on a case-by-case basis really.

Drinking alcohol: 14 for beer/wine, 18 for spirits. Education by experience from a young age would reduce alcohol abuse in my opinion. Round here, when people turn 18 they go absolutely wild on alcohol and it's a serious problem, if people were able to see and experience the effects of alcohol from a younger age this wouldn't happen. Drunkeness is a major drain on society (1/3rd of A & E entries in the UK are the results of misuse of alcohol) and ought to be phased out of society, while still allowing people to enjoy alcohol.

Voting: 16. Because I want my say! :headbang:

Owning a gun: Never.

First, I must say I'm rather disgusted -- but not shocked -- by the notion that 12 or 13 year old children should be able to legally consent to sex.
unfortunately Its not a notion..I does happen...it just does...

somewhere in your family...or in you area...some 13 year old is having sex with his boyfriend.

that is the truth....get over it.
dont be so disgusted...

- Sexual consent

15 - 18 (Depends on parenting and cultural issues in my opinion.)

- Driving car/motorcycle

16

- Drinking alcohol

18-21 (Depends on how much it is legal for consumption. One beer once in a while for an 18 year old is fine. But I prefer 21+ year olds only being able to by)

- Voting

18 (This is a good age. A lot of kids don't know enough of government so 18 is fine.

- Owning a gun

13 (Should show proof of training.)
17 (Can even buy heavier ordinance if showing a proof of training.)

Sexual consent -16

Driving - 16

Drinking Alcohol - 18

Voting - 18

Owning a gun - 18, if you really need to own a gun

Sexual consent: 17 because any earlier is asking to screw up your life.

Driving: 16 is good.

Alcohol: No limit, or something like 12

Voting: 18

Owning a firearm: 18.

I think voting and owning a firearm should be the same age.

Sexual consent - 16 for adult consent (14-16 grey area for minors)
Driving car - 16
Drinking alcohol - 18
Voting - 18
Owning a gun - 18, registered

- Sexual consent - 16 with parental consent, 18 without.

- Driving car/motorcycle - 16 universal

- Drinking alcohol - 12 with parental consent, 18 without

- Voting - 18

- Owning a gun - 16 with parental consent, 18 without, mandatory at 21

- Drinking alcohol - 12 with parental consent, 18 without


That's retarded. Parental consent shouldn't be a legislated matter; it's a matter of family values. Until one is free of parental dependency that is what matters. What if a parent feels their child is OK at six? The clause doesn't take effect until 12, giving the government the overriding ability to be the parent until twelve? Either with parental consent until emacipation or not at all.

Well:

- Sexual consent: Considering what people will do regardless I think that 15 is a good age for consent. I knew people that have waited much later and people that have gone ahead and had sex at a even younger age so I find this is a happy medium.

- Driving car/motorcycle: I think this should be 15 to get a permit and 16 to drive alone.

- Drinking alcohol: 18 is a good age. 21 is just silly. Kids are going to drink anyway.

- Voting: 20, I don't think people should vote until we're sure they understand politics.

- Owning a gun: People who are in puberty shouldn't get guns. Wild moody people don't need the risk of going off the handle. So, I say 19.

Sexual consent: 13

Driving car/motorcycle: 16 for the first part of a graduated licence, 19 for a full one

Drinking alcohol: 18

Voting: 16

Owning a gun: 18, 16 for pellet guns, paintball markers, bows, crossbows and swords

- Sexual consent
13? (maybe 13 with a teenager, 15 otherwise) - Yeah, I know it's really young, but I tend to err on the side of permissiveness, and I think that people would be able to understand it and deal with it if they got a little more education and explanation, from parents, schools, etc.

- Driving car/motorcycle
18? Depends a bit on the availability of public transit, but in general, when you drive you take your life, the lives of your passengers, and the lives of those around you in hand, and any number of relatively insignificant lapses of skill, or attention can do a *huge* amount of damage.

- Drinking alcohol
10? Seriously, if you're old enough to see over the bar to order it, you can have at least a drink. Bartenders are supposed to keep an eye on customers anyway, at least kids aren't likely to smash the bottle and pick a fight.

- Voting
15. While I support the notion that some test of basic civil understanding would massively improve the quality of the debates, it would be almost impossible to correctly and safely implement, and I deeply dislike the idea of preventing people from voting anyway. Oh, and for school board elections, any child able to cast a vote unaided should be allowed to, and there should NO taxation on people under the voting age.

- Owning a gun
15. It's about as potentially dangerous as voting, and about as potentially beneficial, although the benefits and dangers are much more focused. Seriously, though, owning and carrying are very different, and firing a gun safely is alot easier than driving a car safely. Carrying would be more in the 18 range, though, I have to say. Whatever the military enlistment age is, and higher than the voting age by at least a year or two.

What do you personally belive should be the minimum legal age for the following:

- Sexual consent

- Driving car/motorcycle

- Drinking alcohol

- Voting

- Owning a gun

Should they all be set at 18, or 21? Should they all be different? What do you think?

- Sexual consent -> 16
- Driving car/motorcycle -> 18
- Drinking alcohol -> 18
- Voting -> 21, vote on electors in all cases.
- Owning a gun -> 21, strictly regulated.

- Sexual consent 16

- Driving car/motorcycle 18

- Drinking alcohol 18

- Voting 18

- Owning a gun 21

- Sexual consent (18) I'd actually prefer it higher.. but can't have it higher than the legal age to drink, it just wouldn't work. Alot of people would be going to jail. Plus.. if you're old enough to fight in a war.. you can get laid.

- Driving car/motorcycle For an automobile --(16) permit, (18) for license. Motorcycle -- (18) permit, (21) license.

- Drinking alcohol (18) Unsupervised. If you're old enough to fight in a war, you're old enough to drink a beer. (15) Supervised by parent/gaurdian and on private property.

- Voting (18) Ugh.. I'd really like this one to be higher... but if you're old enough to fight for your country.. then you should have a right to voice your opinion in it.

- Owning a gun (18 Carrying) Would like it higher ... but it just doesn't fit. Unless it was (25) for civilians never having been in military. And (20) for those that have. They already get to keep a pistol/handgun that was issued to them in the military right? Or is it just those that have been active in a war? I gotta look this up.

I could just say raise the age for joining the military, but 18 is about right for someone who wishes to begin their career in the military...especially those that have been grooming for it in a Military Acadamy.
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My minds tired...have already changed a few things.. will come back to this tomorrow.

- Sexual consent
THis is fairly complex, but bear with me
18+, but 13-17 is allowable
SO an someone 18 or over can only sleep with people over 18, but
13-17 year olds can have relationships with each other

- Driving car/motorcycle
NSW, Australia System
16 L's Only under licensed supervision, limited to 80km/h (50mph)
17 P1's Unsupervised, Limited to 90km/h (~55mph), 0 Blodd Alcohol
18 P2's Unsupervised, Limited to 100km/h (~60mph), 0 Blood Alcohol
20 Full Licence, 0.05 Blood Alcohol, Normal Speed Limits

- Drinking alcohol
18 years Unsupervised
15 years Under Parental/Guardian Supervision

- Voting
18 years

- Owning a gun
18 years, Pass psychological exam, No fully automatics out of Military or Branches of Law Enforcement

Sexual Consent: 13. A required sexual education class with information about STDs, pregnancy, and safe sex.

Driving: 15 for permit and 16 for license; make the exams much harder.

Alcohol: 13. A required class about the dangers of alcohol and information on responsible use.

Voting: 16. A required exam on current politics.

Owning A Gun: 13 to own a gun, and 21 for a license to carry; require instructional class on proper gun usage before both.

Marijuana: 13.

Sexual consent - there shouldn't be one. Why are we criminalising consensual sex? There are laws against rape and sexual predators, so use them. It's laughable the way we have laws telling children they can't have sex, then we serve them a constant diet of sexually proocative material through TV, magazines, advertisements and music. Banning the latter would do much more to discourage underage pregnancy and STD's.

Age of consent for homosexuals - again there shouldn't be one as this should be outlawed.

Driving car/motorcycle - there shouldn't be one. The driving test determines who's fit to drive, not age.

Drinking alcohol - there shouldn't be one.

Voting - there shouldn't be one. Up to the age of 11, parents should act as voting proxies for their children. After that, children should cast their own vote at school.

Owning a gun - there shouldn't be one as this should be banned.

What do you personally belive should be the minimum legal age for the following:

- Sexual consent--- no more than 5 years older than the older partner till 18

- Driving car/motorcycle-------18

- Drinking alcohol---------18

- Voting-------17

- Owning a gun---------19

Should they all be set at 18, or 21? Should they all be different? What do you think?
lalala thats it!

What do you personally belive should be the minimum legal age for the following:

- Sexual consent

- Driving car/motorcycle

- Drinking alcohol

- Voting

- Owning a gun

Should they all be set at 18, or 21? Should they all be different? What do you think?

65- Older people will get laid more often.

13- Everybody really starts driving around that age anyway, and it would be craaaazy fun!!!

92- If they've made it to that age they deserve to die however they want and it's harder to be a mean drunk when you've messed your Depends.

9- Let's see how the next generation thinks things should be run.

3- Population control.

- Sexual consent
12
Childhood innocence is a myth. Kids know what feels good and what doesnt. 12 is old enough to know when they are being taken advantage of.

- Driving car/motorcycle
16
You need more maturity before you can be trusted with public safety. Im tempted to go higher than 16 for this one, but 16 year olds often have jobs and its reasonable that they should have a car to get to work.

- Drinking alcohol
16
Its not a big deal as long as kids are educated properly.

- Voting
18
Even though at this age they think they know a lot more than they actually do, they typically already know enough that you can give them the benefit of the doubt when it comes to knowing about politics. Besides, young people vote in such small numbers that even if the voting age were lower they wouldnt really affect anything.

- Owning a gun
18
This is a serious public safety issue.

Sexual consent - 16

Driving car/motorcycle - 18

Drinking alcohol - 18

Voting - 18

Owning a gun - 12

Driving is 18 because parents cannot supervise them as they drive. Gun owenership is 12 because it can be supervised extensivley by parents.

- Sexual consent: 15

- Driving car/motorcycle: 15

- Drinking alcohol: 15

- Voting: 15

- Owning a gun: 9,635,135 - i.e., never.

Owning a gun - 12

Driving is 18 because parents cannot supervise them as they drive. Gun owenership is 12 because it can be supervised extensivley by parents.

If you can own a gun at 12 then that means a kid can go to the store and buy a gun then hide it in their book bag and the parent never even becomes aware that they own a gun. How many things didnt you hide from your parents at 12?

It is much more effective to keep things as they are today, you need to be an adult to legally own a gun but if you want to buy one for your kid you are free to do so (although legally its yours).

I am amazed at the amount of people that are for increasing sexual and substance freedoms and ages but are for restricting property freedoms (guns)
I think they are overlooking that age of consent not only coveres teenage lust in the back of a Chevy, but also strip clubs, porno flicks and other seedy endeavors. Not just partaking but also performing... If fully considering that I suspect many would quickly change their tune.

Sexual consent: 14
Driving car/motorcycle: 18
Drinking alcohol: 18
Voting: 16
Owning a gun: 18

Sexual consent - 12, as they're going to start doing it at that age anyway.

Er, I have to disagree. Some, a very slim minority, start doing it at that age. Most begin between 14-18. But seriously, lots of boys don't even hit puberty until 8th grade.

I still think the consent thing should be MUCH lower than it is now, or just nulled entirely.

- Sexual consent: 14-16, not entirely sure.

- Driving car/motorcycle: 18

- Drinking alcohol: 18

- Voting: 16

- Owning a gun: Never

I'ld have to say 18 for all of them.

Sexual concent-18

Driving- 16

Alcohol- 16

owning a gun- 18

- Sexual consent-16

- Driving car/motorcycle-16 so you can have sex

- Drinking alcohol- no limit that way less people will think its cool to drink

- Voting- 25 and must own property to not encourage welfare state
- Owning a gun-18 because guns are cool and important to ensure the freedom

Sexual Consent: None, all consensual sex is cool. Current laws prohibiting non-consensual relations should be enforced. Age (or age disparity) of partners involved should not be used as evidence of coercion or rape.

Driving: I believe in privately owned roads, let the private operators determine this.

Alcohol: Purchase of alcohol probably should be set at about 14, but this should be left up to communities. Anything outside of the purchase of alcohol should not be regulated.

Voting: If you're old enough to fight and die for your country you can cast a ballot - in a federal election. States and communities should determine the age to vote in local elections, though I feel it should be 18 across the board.

Gun Ownership: 18, though it would depend on the community. Rural communities may decide to set the age much lower, where gun ownership is commonplace and gun safety is taught at an early age.