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Harry Potter gay experimentation?

New Fubaria
26-07-2005, 04:44
A friend of mine says he has read on several Christian bulletin boards and news groups that the latest Harry Potter book contains a scene where Harry experiments with romantic feelings towards one of his male friends, involving kissing and fondling

I haven't read the book myself (haven't read any of the HP books for that matter), but I was wondering if this was true or just some crazy rumour?
Gambloshia
26-07-2005, 04:46
It's some HOT shit, man, first harry <text deleted>, then he got all up in his <text deleted> and finally <text deleted>.
Neo Rogolia
26-07-2005, 04:49
A friend of mine says he has read on several Christian bulletin boards and news groups that the latest Harry Potter book contains a scene where Harry experiments with romantic feelings towards one of his male friends, involving kissing and fondling

I haven't read the book myself (haven't read any of the HP books for that matter), but I was wondering if this was true or just some crazy rumour?



I doubt it, endorsement of controversial issues tends to have a negative impact on sales.
Clovers and Luck
26-07-2005, 04:50
Errr I read the book and I don't remember any of that. He had a lot of feelings for Ginny, who is obviously female, and it talked a bit about that.
Poliwanacraca
26-07-2005, 04:50
Yes. Harry and Dumbledore have hot man-on-boy sex for twenty pages. Then Harry makes out in a three-way with Ron and Draco. And then, at the end, there's a surprise sequence where we learn that Voldemort doesn't want to kill Harry, he wants to make sweet love to him!

And they all live gaily ever after. :D
Lunatic Goofballs
26-07-2005, 04:53
Yes. Harry and Dumbledore have hot man-on-boy sex for twenty pages. Then Harry makes out in a three-way with Ron and Draco. And then, at the end, there's a surprise sequence where we learn that Voldemort doesn't want to kill Harry, he wants to make sweet love to him!

And they all live gaily ever after. :D

YAY! :D
New Fubaria
26-07-2005, 04:54
It kinda reminds me of some people theorize that Sherlock Holmes and Dr. Watson from Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's novels were in a homosexual relationship.
Neo Rogolia
26-07-2005, 04:56
It kinda reminds me of some people theorize that Sherlock Holmes and Dr. Watson from Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's novels were in a homosexual relationship.



</3 people who can't tell the difference between intimate friendship and sexual love -.-
Lunatic Goofballs
26-07-2005, 04:56
It kinda reminds me of some people theorize that Sherlock Holmes and Dr. Watson from Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's novels were in a homosexual relationship.

They weren't homosexual. They were just british. :)
The Nazz
26-07-2005, 04:56
It's all in the subtext, man, and it's been there all along. Harry lives in a closet at the Dursley's, he gets magic from his wand--how much more of a hint do you need, man? :D
Lunatic Goofballs
26-07-2005, 04:58
It's all in the subtext, man, and it's been there all along. Harry lives in a closet at the Dursley's, he gets magic from his wand--how much more of a hint do you need, man? :D

Double YAY! :D
JuNii
26-07-2005, 05:00
It's all in the subtext, man, and it's been there all along. Harry lives in a closet at the Dursley's, he gets magic from his wand--how much more of a hint do you need, man? :D
But Hermione is the only person that would grip harry's wand...

then there's the whole riding the broomstick...
Squi
26-07-2005, 05:01
It's all in the subtext, man, and it's been there all along. Harry lives in a closet at the Dursley's, he gets magic from his wand--how much more of a hint do you need, man? :DBravo, well said.
Syniks
26-07-2005, 05:06
A friend of mine says he has read on several Christian bulletin boards and news groups that the latest Harry Potter book contains a scene where Harry experiments with romantic feelings towards one of his male friends, involving kissing and fondling
And why (unless he/she is a lurking troll) do you have a "friend" who would repeat such drek? :rolleyes:

(BTW, I've talked with Emerson Spartz (of mugglenet)... his mother is in my Rotary Club... and I guarantee that there is no homoerotic storyline in v.6 - nor will there be in v.7... JKR is not driven by PC politics...)
Parlim
26-07-2005, 05:06
It's all in the subtext, man, and it's been there all along. Harry lives in a closet at the Dursley's, he gets magic from his wand--how much more of a hint do you need, man? :D

Along those lines, it's also quite funny to, while reading, replace the word "wand" with "penis".

"A mysterious, silvery substance, flowed from the end of Harry's Wand..."

Bahahaha. But, I digress. There's no homosexual contact in any of the books.
DarkInsanity
26-07-2005, 05:07
A friend of mine says he has read on several Christian bulletin boards and news groups that the latest Harry Potter book contains a scene where Harry experiments with romantic feelings towards one of his male friends, involving kissing and fondling

I haven't read the book myself (haven't read any of the HP books for that matter), but I was wondering if this was true or just some crazy rumour?


lololololololol oh god *gasp* i can't...breathe! That's so funny!

What will the Christians think of next?

Don't Worry, Fubaria, no gayness in Harry Potter *grin*
The Nazz
26-07-2005, 05:07
But Hermione is the only person that would grip harry's wand...

then there's the whole riding the broomstick...
No no no--why do you think that Harry's friends with Neville Longbottom, huh? :D
President Shrub
26-07-2005, 05:15
Yes. Harry and Dumbledore have hot man-on-boy sex for twenty pages. Then Harry makes out in a three-way with Ron and Draco. And then, at the end, there's a surprise sequence where we learn that Voldemort doesn't want to kill Harry, he wants to make sweet love to him!

And they all live gaily ever after. :D
That's totally gross.

BTW, if anyone is interested in gay, Harry Potter erotica, check out:
fanfiction.net (http://www.fanfiction.net/search.php?field=summary&plus_keywords=harry+potter+gay+sex&minus_keywords=&categoryid=224&languageid=0&genreid=0&ratingid=0&datetype=0&fromyear=0&frommonth=0&toyear=0&tomonth=0)

There's also fanfics on the internet about Samus (from Metroid) having sex with alien tentacles. Not to mention, they probably have some stuff with the Thundercats too. It's good stuff.

...If you're emotionally disturbed.

Sickos.
New Fubaria
26-07-2005, 05:16
And why (unless he/she is a lurking troll) do you have a "friend" who would repeat such drek? :rolleyes:

(BTW, I've talked with Emerson Spartz (of mugglenet)... his mother is in my Rotary Club... and I guarantee that there is no homoerotic storyline in v.6 - nor will there be in v.7... JKR is not driven by PC politics...)
I just wanted to find out if it was true or not. Hardly trolling. I haven't read the books, thought this would be a good place to ask...
Megaloria
26-07-2005, 05:17
I'd expect that Mrs. Rowling won't drop that bombshell until the final book.
The LRPT
26-07-2005, 05:19
Hey, while we're at it..why not just burn the book and do 'them' all a favor. Its obvious that the Pope isn't going to support the book. I suppose any fanatic will do what they feel right to support their leader's opinion. I mean it's all the same right?, blowing yourself up in a crowded intersection, condemning a series of fantasy novels by making up any number of lies.
If it is that bad maybe we could all learn something from a country like Iran. We could just pretend it doesn't exist (likening HP to Israel aka "the Zionist entity that must be destroyed") Maybe it could just be the Wiccan equal to a bible? I can't remember the last time I heard an official stance on them.
Eh, oh well apparently I'm not a good Christian questioning the Pope, but isn't there some more important stuff to do? Maybe like working on the international AIDS problem, food shortages, poverty? I don't know. If the Christians spend more time condemning their 'neighbors' than helping them, I guess it's time I quit.
Maybe I'm just missing something
:(
Parlim
26-07-2005, 05:30
Organized religion seems to be less faith and more politics now, sad as it is.
Syniks
26-07-2005, 05:32
I just wanted to find out if it was true or not. Hardly trolling. I haven't read the books, thought this would be a good place to ask...
Sorry if you misread my intent. I did not mean that you were trolling, rather that your "friend" should be eyed with some caution if he/she was NOT lurking/trolling on the moonbat Xtian forum before "reporting" such drek to you.

You asked a reasonable question... make sure your "friend" was being reasonable when posing it to you.
Neo Rogolia
26-07-2005, 05:32
Hey, while we're at it..why not just burn the book and do 'them' all a favor. Its obvious that the Pope isn't going to support the book. I suppose any fanatic will do what they feel right to support their leader's opinion. I mean it's all the same right?, blowing yourself up in a crowded intersection, condemning a series of fantasy novels by making up any number of lies.
If it is that bad maybe we could all learn something from a country like Iran. We could just pretend it doesn't exist (likening HP to Israel aka "the Zionist entity that must be destroyed") Maybe it could just be the Wiccan equal to a bible? I can't remember the last time I heard an official stance on them.
Eh, oh well apparently I'm not a good Christian questioning the Pope, but isn't there some more important stuff to do? Maybe like working on the international AIDS problem, food shortages, poverty? I don't know. If the Christians spend more time condemning their 'neighbors' than helping them, I guess it's time I quit.
Maybe I'm just missing something
:(




.....Wha??? It takes talent to turn a thread about Harry Potter into a Christian-bashing one :eek:
Poliwanacraca
26-07-2005, 05:36
.....Wha??? It takes talent to turn a thread about Harry Potter into a Christian-bashing one :eek:

I think the LRPT was only bashing the "Christians" who lie about a harmless children's book in order to promote a political agenda, not Christians in general. I could be wrong, but that's the impression I got.
New Fubaria
26-07-2005, 05:37
Sorry if you misread my intent. I did not mean that you were trolling, rather that your "friend" should be eyed with some caution if he/she was NOT lurking/trolling on the moonbat Xtian forum before "reporting" such drek to you.

You asked a reasonable question... make sure your "friend" was being reasonable when posing it to you.
Ah, OK. No, I'm pretty sure my friend isn't trolling - I've known him for like 20 years and he told me last time I spoke to him. To be honest, considering some of the crazy sh!t I've seen on some bulletin boards, it wouldn't surprise me in the least.
Syniks
26-07-2005, 05:37
.....Wha??? It takes talent to turn a thread about Harry Potter into a Christian-bashing one :eek:It takes even more talent to not understand the context of the question - which is one of how the hell these morons could overlay homoerotic fantasies on "Harry Potter" when they obviously wouldn't be caught dead reading "Satan's Training Book"

Get a grip NR and actually read the topic. People who look for, and see, things that aren't there are radically disturbed. :mad:
Syniks
26-07-2005, 05:40
Ah, OK. No, I'm pretty sure my friend isn't trolling - I've known him for like 20 years and he told me last time I spoke to him. To be honest, considering some of the crazy sh!t I've seen on some bulletin boards, it wouldn't surprise me in the least.Oh, I don't doubt it at all. In this case, I'm not using "trolling" in the typicaly negative NS sense, but more in the "'Active Lurking' on a forum on which you dramatically disagree" sense.

I would venture to guess most of us have done that at one time or another... :D
77Seven77
26-07-2005, 15:25
No it is not true - I have read the book and there is no homosexual refrence, and I very much doubt that there would be. Its a shame that government in the UK shames homosexuality and 2 people loving each other and would not let a homosexual refrence be allowed in a "childrens book" remember section 28.

One day there will be no difference .... I just hope it is in my lifetime ... regardless of free speach and so on we are so far from being free unless we consort to the norm we are far from normal ....
Laerod
26-07-2005, 15:34
Threads like these make me wish for a smilie with one eyebrow raised in this forum. Harry Potter homoerotic? I may not have been all there when I read it, but I doubt I would have missed that, unless watching two adults get drunk is homoerotic, or helping someone that doubled over in pain, or casting a spell at someone in a boys bathroom. Where'd they come up with it?
Dakini
26-07-2005, 15:34
A friend of mine says he has read on several Christian bulletin boards and news groups that the latest Harry Potter book contains a scene where Harry experiments with romantic feelings towards one of his male friends, involving kissing and fondling

I haven't read the book myself (haven't read any of the HP books for that matter), but I was wondering if this was true or just some crazy rumour?
From what I've heard, Harry starts dating Ron's sister, Ginny.

He's not gay.

I also somehow doubt anything more than a kiss would make it into a children's book. Are these the same sort of idiot christians who are buying Harry Potter books for the purpose of burning them, by any chance?
Fass
26-07-2005, 15:34
No it is not true - I have read the book and there is no homosexual refrence, and I very much doubt that there would be. Its a shame that government in the UK shames homosexuality and 2 people loving each other and would not let a homosexual refrence be allowed in a "childrens book" remember section 28.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_28

Section 28 was repealed two years ago.
77Seven77
26-07-2005, 15:36
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_28

Section 28 was repealed two years ago.

As I said REMEMBER .....

regardless do you actually think anything has changed????
Dakini
26-07-2005, 15:41
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_28

Section 28 was repealed two years ago.
Hey, it was repealed on my birthday!
Fass
26-07-2005, 15:46
As I said REMEMBER .....

No, as you said "and I very much doubt that there would be. Its a shame that government in the UK shames homosexuality and 2 people loving each other and would not let a homosexual refrence be allowed in a 'childrens book'," as though it were still in force.

regardless do you actually think anything has changed????

Yes. I know it has.
Defuniak
26-07-2005, 15:49
That is so sick
Defuniak
26-07-2005, 15:50
There has got to be a copyright law or something...
77Seven77
26-07-2005, 15:51
No, as you said "and I very much doubt that there would be. Its a shame that government in the UK shames homosexuality and 2 people loving each other and would not let a homosexual refrence be allowed in a 'childrens book'," as though it were still in force.



Yes. I know it has.

Well bully for you .... on Saturday I was asullted for being Gay my neighbour smashed my car up with a baseball bat whilst I was in it ....

Yes things have really changed ..... :rolleyes:
Liskeinland
26-07-2005, 15:51
Heh heh… freaky oddness… there's no gay subtext, at least none that I can see. I mean, everyone knows that the real gay subtext is in Lord of the Rings between Frodo and Sam.
Fass
26-07-2005, 15:56
Well bully for you .... on Saturday I was asullted for being Gay my neighbour smashed my car up with a baseball bat whilst I was in it ....

Yes things have really changed ..... :rolleyes:

Unless it was the government that bashed you, your little anecdote is completely inconsequential to what we were discussing.
Fass
26-07-2005, 15:58
I mean, everyone knows that the real gay subtext is in Lord of the Rings between Frodo and Sam.

I spent the better half of the last movie annoyed that they never got to kiss each other. :mad:
Laerod
26-07-2005, 16:00
I spent the better half of the last movie annoyed that they never got to kiss each other. :mad:I s'pose you haven't seen Ben Stiller's proposal for the fourth part of LotR?
Fass
26-07-2005, 16:01
I s'pose you haven't seen Ben Stiller's proposal for the fourth part of LotR?

You suppose correctly.
New Fubaria
26-07-2005, 16:03
Heh heh… freaky oddness… there's no gay subtext, at least none that I can see. I mean, everyone knows that the real gay subtext is in Lord of the Rings between Frodo and Sam.
I dunno, seemed more like a brotherly relationship between the two Hobbits, but I admit Sam came of as a bit of a bleeding heart...
Rhoderick
26-07-2005, 16:05
Just finished the book, there is a sexual subplot, but it is not gay, and it is not that strong, something about having a monster in his stomach for Giny!!?!?!
Kryozerkia
26-07-2005, 16:05
That's totally gross.

BTW, if anyone is interested in gay, Harry Potter erotica, check out:
fanfiction.net (http://www.fanfiction.net/search.php?field=summary&plus_keywords=harry+potter+gay+sex&minus_keywords=&categoryid=224&languageid=0&genreid=0&ratingid=0&datetype=0&fromyear=0&frommonth=0&toyear=0&tomonth=0)

There's also fanfics on the internet about Samus (from Metroid) having sex with alien tentacles. Not to mention, they probably have some stuff with the Thundercats too. It's good stuff.

...If you're emotionally disturbed.

Sickos.
ff.net is total shit.

Fanfiction Sanctuary (http://http://ffsanctuary.net/)

There is Harry Potter stuff here as well.

And yes, you'll only find the slash stuff in the form of fanfiction.
Laerod
26-07-2005, 16:05
You suppose correctly.I saw it a while ago... try and look for it. It capitalizes on the Frodo/Sam love story.
Grave_n_idle
26-07-2005, 16:21
A friend of mine says he has read on several Christian bulletin boards and news groups that the latest Harry Potter book contains a scene where Harry experiments with romantic feelings towards one of his male friends, involving kissing and fondling

I haven't read the book myself (haven't read any of the HP books for that matter), but I was wondering if this was true or just some crazy rumour?

Wouldn't it be easier to just READ the Harry Potter books, than to perpetuate fundamentalist agendas without any evidence?
Kroisistan
26-07-2005, 16:41
I found a page that among other things, talks about this.

http://www.goodvibes.com/cgi-bin/sgdynamo.exe?HTNAME=magazine/our_regulars/sits/200408.html

It's all circumstantial evidence of course, but sooner or later it adds up.

Oh, and to disclaim, that site is called Good Vibrations, and seems "sensual" but I don't frequent it, so I don't know if there is anything questionable in any of the links. There is no nudity on that page though and google spat this place out so it should be fine, but should you choose to enjoy other parts of that site and what if any content they may contain, I am not responsible.

But as for gayness overtly written into the Potter books, it's a definite no. Harry doesn't have a gay relationship or even gay feelings in any of the books.
Eris Ascendent
26-07-2005, 17:11
A friend of mine says he has read on several Christian bulletin boards and news groups that the latest Harry Potter book contains a scene where Harry experiments with romantic feelings towards one of his male friends, involving kissing and fondling

I haven't read the book myself (haven't read any of the HP books for that matter), but I was wondering if this was true or just some crazy rumour?

Sounds like somebody's mixing fanfic up with the book. :rolleyes: This is called slash and it does exist, but only in the fevered imaginatoin of the fanfic writers. There's NO homoerotic content in the books!
Dishonorable Scum
26-07-2005, 17:26
Wow, some people will believe anything!

Well, if anyone believed that, then I'm the son of the former dictator of Nigeria, and would you mind lending me your bank account number for a few minutes? I'll leave a few million bucks in it when I'm through, I promise!

:p
Taldaan
26-07-2005, 17:29
Just finished the book, there is a sexual subplot, but it is not gay, and it is not that strong, something about having a monster in his stomach for Giny!!?!?!

I foresee an Alien-like scenario in Harry Potter 7...
The Nazz
26-07-2005, 21:27
In all seriousness, the Harry Potter books belong to a sub-genre of literature called boarding house stories, that traditionally have a good deal of homo-eroticism in them. That doesn't mean that Rowling put that into her books--in fact, it seems to me like she substitutes the students love of magic for the homo-eroticism inherent in similar stories, but there are certain things that, taken out of context like I did earlier in thread (Harry's life in the closet, his wand, etc.), can lead one to think that there's some homosexuality there when there isn't.
Mesatecala
26-07-2005, 21:31
A friend of mine says he has read on several Christian bulletin boards and news groups that the latest Harry Potter book contains a scene where Harry experiments with romantic feelings towards one of his male friends, involving kissing and fondling

I haven't read the book myself (haven't read any of the HP books for that matter), but I was wondering if this was true or just some crazy rumour?

More like a crazy rumor.

And you ought to be kidding me.. what is it with people and homosexuality here? Man, even people I knew in high school didn't bring it up this often.
The Nazz
26-07-2005, 21:37
More like a crazy rumor.

And you ought to be kidding me.. what is it with people and homosexuality here? Man, even people I knew in high school didn't bring it up this often.
Just a sign that society is becoming more and more open and progressive as far as sexuality is concerned, a good thing from my point of view.
Sezyou
26-07-2005, 21:37
First off, there is nothing wrong with being gay and secondly those idiots that are spreading falsehoods have not even read the book. They dont like HP because they disapprove of magic and want to do every thing they can to discredit it. I cannot stand stupid gossip and outright lies...how ignorant!
Mesatecala
26-07-2005, 21:38
Just a sign that society is becoming more and more open and progressive as far as sexuality is concerned, a good thing from my point of view.

Well maybe you misinterpreted me, but the kids I knew in high school were downright negative whenever they brought it up. The same applies to here often.
_Susa_
26-07-2005, 21:40
It kinda reminds me of some people theorize that Sherlock Holmes and Dr. Watson from Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's novels were in a homosexual relationship.
Well, we know Batman and Robin get freaky, so maybe Holmes and Watson are "festive" too!
The Nazz
26-07-2005, 21:44
Well maybe you misinterpreted me, but the kids I knew in high school were downright negative whenever they brought it up. The same applies to here often.
Oh no--I wasn't trying to make a judgment as to your feelings, and I'm sorry if I came off that way. I meant it more as a general observation than anything else.
Mesatecala
26-07-2005, 21:47
Oh no--I wasn't trying to make a judgment as to your feelings, and I'm sorry if I came off that way. I meant it more as a general observation than anything else.

Well you were talking about it being brought up more often in high school.. for at least in my perspective, kids were pretty negative about it. it doesn't really have much to do with my feelings. Just observations.