NationStates Jolt Archive

In the Season 6 episode of Stargate: SG1, titled The Other Guys, the show focuses on the adventures of a group of scientists being guarded by SG1, rather than on SG1 itself. Of course SG1 is still in the episode, and are rather integral, but that specific episode is about the scientists that SG1 often escorts but never really does anything with. It was a pretty good episode and I like how it seemed to say "Yes, not everything in this universe revolves completely around SG1, and there are times when other people save the day". But I can't help but wonder why the episode wasn't about the other other guys, like Sgt. Walter Harriman or Sgt. Siler, two people who are in practically every episode and supposedly integral to the SGC's operations, but who very rarely actually do anything. They, and other such characters, would have been a great choice.

I, for one, would have loved to see an ep. where the base is invaded and, instead of of SG1, only those two guys are still able to stop the invasion. Or SG1 is captured off-world and they need to invade a Goa'uld base to rescue them. Or, since neither seems to be at the peak of their fighting ability and they'd probably lose when invading that Goa'uld base, an episode where they have to use some other skill to save the day. Cause, to be perfectly honest, those guys rock and it'd be awesome for them to finally be at the forefront of an episode.

What minor characters would you like to see in the starring role?

I'd like to see a background story episode of the Asgard and/or Nox ('cause, let's face it, they're hardly mentioned anymore).

I'd like to see, believe it or not, the Tok'ra save the day, I mean yeah, they're there in alot of episodes but they're always the guys who are the cannon fodder and are only used for they're transportation and/or technology. Just once I'd like to see the Tok'ra having to save the SGC's asses.

Also, the Tollans. Really, we need an episode or three to find out what the hell happened to the survivors, and all.

I'd like to see, believe it or not, the Tok'ra save the day, I mean yeah, they're there in alot of episodes but they're always the guys who are the cannon fodder and are only used for they're transportation and/or technology. Just once I'd like to see the Tok'ra having to save the SGC's asses.
they don't save the day because they are pansies. they have been fighting the goa'uld for thousands of years and havn't got shit done, and they chastise sg1 for pwning the goa'uld

I can think of a few eps where the Tok'ra saved the day. It was Selmak who reprogrammed the weapon on Dakara which was used to defeat the Replicators, it was a Tok'ra symbiote which saved Jack O'niell's life when he was infected with the Ancient Plague, it was Selmak who saved Jack and Teal'cs life when they were floating near Saturn in the X-301, and it was Anise who gave SG1 the arm bands which gave them super-human abilities which almost got them killed by Apophis......wait.....scratch that last one. But seriously, though the SGC does save the Tok'ras asses a lot more than the reverse, it isn't all one way.

And the Tollan ep might be a bit hard to do considering that Garwin Sanford (the actor who played Narim in SG1) is now playing Simon in Atlantis (though I think he's gone after the last episode). And come on, it's not that hard to figure out what happened. They got their patooties beaten.

*snip*

And the Tollan ep might be a bit hard to do considering that Garwin Sanford (the actor who played Narim in SG1) is now playing Simon in Atlantis (though I think he's gone after the last episode). And come on, it's not that hard to figure out what happened. They got their patooties beaten.
..Wow, what's sad is, I never noticed that. Good point, but I suppose they can always say he was killed off. And yeah, it's obvious what happened, but didn't the Tollans get a message through to the SGC before they all went poof? I just would like to see what the Tollans have been doing in the way of rebuilding (I really can't believe that a race like the Tollans were unable to evacuate people during the attack, and were instead completely wiped out), and perhaps their becoming allies of the SGC on a more equal footing, in light of all the exploits of SG-1.

Yeah they got a "We're screwed, dead, and not coming back. Bye!" message off to the SGC through the Stargate, but I guess they probably did manage to get some survivors off somewhere. But the Goa'uld, while mean, aren't stupid. The first place they assaulted was the Stargate area and they'd probably have made serious efforts to control and hold the area from the Tollan. I don't see how any serious portion of the population could have escaped.

Yeah they got a "We're screwed, dead, and not coming back. Bye!" message off to the SGC through the Stargate, but I guess they probably did manage to get some survivors off somewhere. But the Goa'uld, while mean, aren't stupid. The first place they assaulted was the Stargate area and they'd probably have made serious efforts to control and hold the area from the Tollan. I don't see how any serious portion of the population could have escaped.

They were an advanced race, and, granted, the Goa'uld completely screwed 'em over, they likely had ships capable of FTL flight, as well as having the Stargate located near an important population center. Granted, if the Goa'uld dialed in (I don't think they did), or, as you said, took it over, then the Tollans would've been cut off from that route.

In all likelihood they did dial in, its standard operating procedure for a Goa'uld invasion. No reason to suspect they wouldn't do it when invading Tollan.

Plus, if every offensive weapon that the Tollan have is suddenly rendered completely useless, I don't see how any ships from the surface could possibly escape past the Goa'uld blockade.

In all likelihood they did dial in, its standard operating procedure for a Goa'uld invasion. No reason to suspect they wouldn't do it when invading Tollan.

Plus, if every offensive weapon that the Tollan have is suddenly rendered completely useless, I don't see how any ships from the surface could possibly escape past the Goa'uld blockade.
Didn't they just "paint" each gun, and destroy them, or was that another episode? If that was the case, they'd've been busy destroying the guns (if but for a brief while), giving a slim window of time for some ships to get through. If that wasn't the case, yeah, it's a bit unlikely they got through, unless they had used cloaking technology (which, for some reason, the Goa'uld seem to have, and no one else but the Nox uses, despite other races being advanced enough to have it), which I doubt.

That was a different episode, several years earlier, and the Goa'uld destroyed every single weapon (excepting one hidden by a Nox) in the span of two seconds. Less, actually, but I don't feel like measuring in milliseconds. They defeated the Tollan (several years after that episode) when they developed a shield that made them completely impervious to the Tollan weaponry. And, in all likelihood, the Tollan didn't have any need for a cloak and thus wouldn't have one. As Teal'c said many times, the Tollan hadn't fought a war in centuries, possibly even millenia. They had absolutely no knowledge of strategy, battle tactics, or equipment necessary to wage a war. They had powerful, technologically advanced guns and that was about it. With no need to spy on anybody, sneak past anybody, or anything else along those lines, they never would have developed a cloak.

That was a different episode, several years earlier, and the Goa'uld destroyed every single weapon (excepting one hidden by a Nox) in the span of two seconds. Less, actually, but I don't feel like measuring in milliseconds. They defeated the Tollan (several years after that episode) when they developed a shield that made them completely impervious to the Tollan weaponry. And, in all likelihood, the Tollan didn't have any need for a cloak and thus wouldn't have one. As Teal'c said many times, the Tollan hadn't fought a war in centuries, possibly even millenia. They had absolutely no knowledge of strategy, battle tactics, or equipment necessary to wage a war. They had powerful, technologically advanced guns and that was about it. With no need to spy on anybody, sneak past anybody, or anything else along those lines, they never would have developed a cloak.

Ahhh..I remember now, thank you.

*Sighs*They needed someone as paranoid as me. I'd demand a way to cloak the whole planet. And I'd have beam technology to beam people to a backup stargate located on a hidden location somewhere else in the solarsystem, and then gate away. *nods*

It wouldn't matter if you did, only one Gate works at a time per solar system. So, even if you had twenty extra Gates across the planet, as long as the Goa'uld kept a wormhole open to one of them the rest wouldn't work.

It wouldn't matter if you did, only one Gate works at a time per solar system. So, even if you had twenty extra Gates across the planet, as long as the Goa'uld kept a wormhole open to one of them the rest wouldn't work.
..D'oh. Forgot that tidbit. And I doubt they were advandced enough to beam across systems..Which, in fact, I don't think there's been a single precendent of the older races doing so.

Edit: I thought of something. Place an evacuation fleet on a moon orbiting the planet, and beam people to it. Very unlikely, as you'd have to 1)Maintain the fleet 2) Have some reason for creating it in the first place and 3) would need to have the ships powered down in order to hide them (or attempt to) from scanners, and preserve energy, which would slow evacuation.

Yeah, there is. There is even a precedent of people being beamed across whole galaxies. Want to guess what did it? No? Okay, I'll give you a hint. It's the Stargate network. ;)

Even the Goa'uld have intra-system beaming with the rings, they go planet-to-planet across millions of miles, and the Asgard don't even need the rings to do so.

Yeah, there is. There is even a precedent of people being beamed across whole galaxies. Want to guess what did it? No? Okay, I'll give you a hint. It's the Stargate network.

Even the Goa'uld have intra-system beaming with the rings, they go planet-to-planet across millions of miles, and the Asgard don't even need the rings to do so.
lol, I meant without the use of the Gates. :p It's one thing to go from planet to planet in system, but across systems, even close ones, without a Stargate..I'd think the Ancients, given all they've achieved, might manage it, but why they would bother, I couldn't imagine.

And what would stop the Goa'uld from simply blowing up the evacuation fleet on the moon once it lifted off from its surface? Or blowing it up on the surface while its powering up? And what would even keep the Goa'uld from just detecting the life-signs of the people maintaining the fleet or detecting the trinium that the fleet is made out of? They have very sophisticated scanners after all.