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All-Volunteer Military: problematic or not?

Eutrusca
25-07-2005, 15:32
COMMENTARY: This is a subject about which I have had thoughts similar to the ones expressed by the author of this article. This seems to be a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation. For many years I have wondered if it wouldn't be best to require every citizen to devote at least two years of his/her life to service of some sort, whether in organizations such as the Peace Corps, government approved volunteer organizations, or the military. If we don't use an all-volunteer military, what other options do we have? If we use an all-volunteer military, what are the implications for the US as a nation?


The Best Army We Can Buy (http://www.nytimes.com/2005/07/25/opinion/25kennedy.html?th&emc=th)

By DAVID M. KENNEDY
Published: July 25, 2005

THE United States now has a mercenary army. To be sure, our soldiers are hired from within the citizenry, unlike the hated Hessians whom George III recruited to fight against the American Revolutionaries. But like those Hessians, today's volunteers sign up for some mighty dangerous work largely for wages and benefits - a compensation package that may not always be commensurate with the dangers in store, as current recruiting problems testify.

Neither the idealism nor the patriotism of those who serve is in question here. The profession of arms is a noble calling, and there is no shame in wage labor. But the fact remains that the United States today has a military force that is extraordinarily lean and lethal, even while it is increasingly separated from the civil society on whose behalf it fights. This is worrisome - for reasons that go well beyond unmet recruiting targets.

One troubling aspect is obvious. By some reckonings, the Pentagon's budget is greater than the military expenditures of all other nations combined. It buys an arsenal of precision weapons for highly trained troops who can lay down a coercive footprint in the world larger and more intimidating than anything history has known. Our leaders tell us that our armed forces seek only just goals, and at the end of the day will be understood as exerting a benign influence. Yet that perspective may not come so easily to those on the receiving end of that supposedly beneficent violence.

But the modern military's disjunction from American society is even more disturbing. Since the time of the ancient Greeks through the American Revolutionary War and well into the 20th century, the obligation to bear arms and the privileges of citizenship have been intimately linked. It was for the sake of that link between service and a full place in society that the founders were so invested in militias and so worried about standing armies, which Samuel Adams warned were "always dangerous to the liberties of the people."

Many African-Americans understood that link in the Civil War, and again in World Wars I and II, when they clamored for combat roles, which they saw as stepping stones to equal rights. From Aristotle's Athens to Machiavelli's Florence to Thomas Jefferson's Virginia and Robert Gould Shaw's Boston and beyond, the tradition of the citizen-soldier has served the indispensable purposes of sustaining civic engagement, protecting individual liberty - and guaranteeing political accountability.

That tradition has now been all but abandoned. A comparison with a prior generation's war illuminates the point. In World War II, the United States put some 16 million men and women into uniform. What's more, it mobilized the economic, social and psychological resources of the society down to the last factory, rail car, classroom and victory garden. World War II was a "total war." Waging it compelled the participation of all citizens and an enormous commitment of society's energies.

But thanks to something that policymakers and academic experts grandly call the "revolution in military affairs," which has wedded the newest electronic and information technologies to the destructive purposes of the second-oldest profession, we now have an active-duty military establishment that is, proportionate to population, about 4 percent of the size of the force that won World War II. And today's military budget is about 4 percent of gross domestic product, as opposed to nearly 40 percent during World War II.

The implications are deeply unsettling: history's most potent military force can now be put into the field by a society that scarcely breaks a sweat when it does so. We can now wage war while putting at risk very few of our sons and daughters, none of whom is obliged to serve. Modern warfare lays no significant burdens on the larger body of citizens in whose name war is being waged.

This is not a healthy situation. It is, among other things, a standing invitation to the kind of military adventurism that the founders correctly feared was the greatest danger of standing armies - a danger made manifest in their day by the career of Napoleon Bonaparte, whom Jefferson described as having "transferred the destinies of the republic from the civil to the military arm."

Some will find it offensive to call today's armed forces a "mercenary army," but our troops are emphatically not the kind of citizen-soldiers that we fielded two generations ago - drawn from all ranks of society without respect to background or privilege or education, and mobilized on such a scale that civilian society's deep and durable consent to the resort to arms was absolutely necessary.

Leaving questions of equity aside, it cannot be wise for a democracy to let such an important function grow so far removed from popular participation and accountability. It makes some supremely important things too easy - like dealing out death and destruction to others, and seeking military solutions on the assumption they will be swifter and more cheaply bought than what could be accomplished by the more vexatious business of diplomacy.

The life of a robust democratic society should be strenuous; it should make demands on its citizens when they are asked to engage with issues of life and death. The "revolution in military affairs" has made obsolete the kind of huge army that fought World War II, but a universal duty to service - perhaps in the form of a lottery, or of compulsory national service with military duty as one option among several - would at least ensure that the civilian and military sectors do not become dangerously separate spheres. War is too important to be left either to the generals or the politicians. It must be the people's business.

David M. Kennedy, a professor of history at Stanford and the author of the Pulitzer-Prize winning "Freedom from Fear: The American People in Depression and War, 1929-1945," is working on a book about the American national character.
Wurzelmania
25-07-2005, 15:43
So what does he reccomend? National Service?

My end of things is that the military is an expression of failure on behalf of the state/world community at best and a simple implement of coercion at worst.
Werteswandel
25-07-2005, 15:44
I'm not utterly opposed to the idea of compulsory community or national service, with the caveat that any military service is strictly optional. However, I find the alternatives to a 'volunteer army' deeply unsettling. Furthermore, while I have some sympathy for some of the views expressed by the author, I believe the following statement is arrant nonsense:

"We can now wage war while putting at risk very few of our sons and daughters, none of whom is obliged to serve. Modern warfare lays no significant burdens on the larger body of citizens in whose name war is being waged.

This is not a healthy situation."
The NAS Rebels
25-07-2005, 16:07
I believe in the abolishment of a volenteer military, and instead create a military along the lines of the Israelies. Why them and not some other country you ask? This is why: 1) they are not afraid to send both man AND women to the front lines. They don't care about being PC. Women demand equality in the military, so they gave them FULL equality, including the equality to be shot just like a man, something which hypocritical America refuses to do because of N.O.W. 2) After America they have the most powerful and best trained and most efficient military/intelligence/special forces in the world, because America trained them in everything. 3) They have composeraly (spl?) military service for a few years, I forget the exact number. I feel America should change itself to be like Israel but extend the required tour of duty to 8 years instead of 2 or whatever which someone earlier posted.
Borgoa
25-07-2005, 16:20
In some places it is more a less essential for the armed forces to be based on conscription. For instance, the Nordic countries don't have large enough populations to support a fully full-time professional army.

Military service is also a great leveller. If everyone has to do it it reinforces the idea of equality etc.

These days though, due to budget cuts (and the different defence situation since the end of the Soviet Union), not all Swedish men of conscription age get called up.
Eutrusca
25-07-2005, 16:35
I'm not utterly opposed to the idea of compulsory community or national service, with the caveat that any military service is strictly optional. However, I find the alternatives to a 'volunteer army' deeply unsettling. Furthermore, while I have some sympathy for some of the views expressed by the author, I believe the following statement is arrant nonsense:

"We can now wage war while putting at risk very few of our sons and daughters, none of whom is obliged to serve. Modern warfare lays no significant burdens on the larger body of citizens in whose name war is being waged.

This is not a healthy situation."
Not sure what you mean by "errant nonsense." Can you say more? :)
Sabbatis
25-07-2005, 16:48
COMMENTARY: This is a subject about which I have had thoughts similar to the ones expressed by the author of this article. This seems to be a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation. For many years I have wondered if it wouldn't be best to require every citizen to devote at least two years of his/her life to service of some sort, whether in organizations such as the Peace Corps, government approved volunteer organizations, or the military. If we don't use an all-volunteer military, what other options do we have? If we use an all-volunteer military, what are the implications for the US as a nation?

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War is too important to be left either to the generals or the politicians. It must be the people's business.



There are a number of interesting questions here, but the one that jumped out at me is the concept that military adventurism - or worse - becomes more likely when there is insufficient cost to the Nation of doing so. While it is true that our financial cost of maintaining a superpower military is great, it could be argued that the emotional cost is too low unless citizen-soldiers (as opposed to perceived mercenaries) are put on the field of battle.

I think the Abrams Doctrine is an attempt to check this, and it's arguably working in the Iraq expedition. It may not be necessary to require military service as long as the Reserves are sent in every conflict.

"The Abrams Doctrine is widely interpreted as an expression of General Creighton Abrams’ determination to maintain a clear linkage between the employment of the Army and the engagement of public support for military operations. Abrams, according to the doctrine, established this bond by creating a force structure that integrated Reserve and Active Components so closely as to make them inextricable, ensuring after Vietnam that presidents would never be able to again send the Army to war without the Reserves and the commitment of the American people...

Proponents of the Abrams Doctrine contend that dependence on RC serves as an extra-Constitutional tripwire on the presidential use of military power. Citizen-soldiers, they would provide a strong bond between the military and civil society. Any large-scale mobilization of Reserves would affect communities throughout the country and engage the American people."

http://www.fpri.org/enotes/20050203.military.carofano.totalforcepolicyabramsdoctrine.html
Werteswandel
25-07-2005, 17:11
Not sure what you mean by "errant nonsense." Can you say more? :)
I actually wrote 'arrant, not 'errant', though the latter may also be appropriate. ;)

Well, it seems to me that he's taking a huge cognitive leap in stating that it is 'unhealthy' for warfare to be conducted at little or no risk to civilians. This, for me, is something to welcome, not regret.

I don't think we need civilian soldiers to put across disapproval of military adventurism. Whatever your opinion of the justifications for recent conflicts, the dissent expressed by the populaces of Spain, the UK, etc show that governments aren't getting an easy ride. The problem is not so much with the lack of personal stake in such conflicts, but the ability of the citizenry (or 'subjects' - ugh! - in some cases, grumble) to hold the government to account.
Eutrusca
25-07-2005, 17:37
There are a number of interesting questions here, but the one that jumped out at me is the concept that military adventurism - or worse - becomes more likely when there is insufficient cost to the Nation of doing so. While it is true that our financial cost of maintaining a superpower military is great, it could be argued that the emotional cost is too low unless citizen-soldiers (as opposed to perceived mercenaries) are put on the field of battle.

I think the Abrams Doctrine is an attempt to check this, and it's arguably working in the Iraq expedition. It may not be necessary to require military service as long as the Reserves are sent in every conflict.

"The Abrams Doctrine is widely interpreted as an expression of General Creighton Abrams’ determination to maintain a clear linkage between the employment of the Army and the engagement of public support for military operations. Abrams, according to the doctrine, established this bond by creating a force structure that integrated Reserve and Active Components so closely as to make them inextricable, ensuring after Vietnam that presidents would never be able to again send the Army to war without the Reserves and the commitment of the American people...

Proponents of the Abrams Doctrine contend that dependence on RC serves as an extra-Constitutional tripwire on the presidential use of military power. Citizen-soldiers, they would provide a strong bond between the military and civil society. Any large-scale mobilization of Reserves would affect communities throughout the country and engage the American people."

http://www.fpri.org/enotes/20050203.military.carofano.totalforcepolicyabramsdoctrine.html
Interesting point about the Reserves and the Guard. Problem is, enlistment in both has tappered off rather drastically. :(
Achtung 45
25-07-2005, 17:43
Interesting point about the Reserves and the Guard. Problem is, enlistment in both has tappered off rather drastically. :(
Why don't we just found a city somewhere in Kansas or something, where everyone born there is instantly taken into military training. We could train them their entire lives, pump anti-peace propaganda into their heads, and since it's a seperate city, the government could have total control over them. We could create warmongering machines that are trained to sruvive and kill and nothing else. I have a good name for such a city, Sparta. Perfect!
Sabbatis
25-07-2005, 17:55
Interesting point about the Reserves and the Guard. Problem is, enlistment in both has tappered off rather drastically. :(

Yes. The questions of how to maintain force strength and how to involve citizens in protecting their nation remain. The latter concerns me when I take a long-term view of our future.

C-Span recently aired the Congressional Committee on Military Recruiting and Retention, chaired by Rep. John McHugh who represents my district. To my complete surprise, he argued vehemently with a DoD official regarding miltary appropriations. Get this - he was trying to give them more money, and they didn't want it! They apparently feel that they have recruitment and retention under control.

This doesn't add up with the way I understand recruitment numbers, and I assume not with yours either. I suppose if the military is content with the numbers then we should be too - but I'm puzzled and concerned. Here's a link to his opening statement - unfortunately I couldn't find a transcript so you could get the full picture.

http://mchugh.house.gov/pr2005/071905_HrgStmt.html
New Moose Port
25-07-2005, 18:01
Yes. The questions of how to maintain force strength and how to involve citizens in protecting their nation remain. The latter concerns me when I take a long-term view of our future.

But this is not nessicarilly through strength in arms. The western army of Nato might actually be smaller then some other armies in the world, but is techniologically great. We employ a large section of private enterprise that develop, create and maintain the services that we rely on for great armed forces to remain elite.

We also have other security forces that I believe we should invest more in, and maintain, and these are long term projects. You can not just turn around and buy more spy's on a particular month, you have to spend years getting them into the right place and maintaining their cover, and their support.

Volunteer front line perhaps. Selected and grown support. And I do not support national service.
Sumamba Buwhan
25-07-2005, 18:11
I don't think we have to worry because robotics are coming along quite nicely. Sure it's costly but you can't put a price on human life. Unless it's over a billion dollars per robot. Then you can. :p
The Stoic
25-07-2005, 18:22
Of course an all-volunteer military is problematic. So is a conscripted military. The two simply have different problems. (One can attempt to avoid both sets of problems by not having a military at all, but of course this creates an entirely different set of problems.)

If you're looking for a problem-free solution to national defense, there isn't one. Choose your problems, and deal with them as best you can.
Sabbatis
25-07-2005, 18:26
But this is not nessicarilly through strength in arms. The western army of Nato might actually be smaller then some other armies in the world, but is techniologically great. We employ a large section of private enterprise that develop, create and maintain the services that we rely on for great armed forces to remain elite.

We also have other security forces that I believe we should invest more in, and maintain, and these are long term projects. You can not just turn around and buy more spy's on a particular month, you have to spend years getting them into the right place and maintaining their cover, and their support.

Volunteer front line perhaps. Selected and grown support. And I do not support national service.

The issue of strength in arms comes into play only if/when recruitment and retention are too low, as Eutrusca was commenting.

A point of the article was that a risk of having a high tech and low-manpower military is making war socially and politically inexpensive to citizens. And that can bring danger to the nation/world. The check on waging war is losing lots of nice young men and women. Take them out of the equation and we'll be kicking ass too frequently. General Abrams foresaw this and attempted a solution to making war difficult without disabling the military.

National service obviously solves recruitment issues if they exist, but consider that it's a way of preventing a 'mercenary military' and adding a cost to the social/military equation. I'm of the view that citizen investing time on their nation's behalf is a good idea, though hard to implement. It doesn't necessarily need to mean military service, that's just the most common way to envision service.