NationStates Jolt Archive


Losing it...

Laerod
25-07-2005, 08:51
I'm currently suffering from a depression that started exactly three months ago. One problem I've been having is that I've lost interest in just about everything I liked doing before. I used to be an avid computer gamer, but I haven't really played anything since I got depressed. One of the only things that I managed to enjoy in this time was NationStates. But now, I'm starting to get the feeling that I'm losing interest in NationStates, which I would regret very much, since it's pretty much the last thing besides sleeping which I can still do.

Anybody care to sympathize, offer advice, tell me to stop whining?
Leonstein
25-07-2005, 08:55
Anybody care to sympathize, offer advice, tell me to stop whining?
It's difficult to offer advice for me. I don't think I ever was depressed.
How do you know when you have an impression? I've felt down sometimes, but I never considered whether or not I was actually depressed.
I do sympathise though. I like you, I reckon you should stay.

Anyways...stop whining! :D
Eddier
25-07-2005, 08:56
Stop whining.. and stuff.

Naw, just avoid things that sadden you? I dunno, see a therapist.
Laerod
25-07-2005, 08:57
It's difficult to offer advice for me. I don't think I ever was depressed.
How do you know when you have an impression? I've felt down sometimes, but I never considered whether or not I was actually depressed.
I do sympathise though. I like you, I reckon you should stay.

Anyways...stop whining! :D
Meh, after 2 weeks of continued sadness you should see a doctor. If it lasts less than 2 weeks it might be a depression.
Commie Catholics
25-07-2005, 09:10
Take two prozac and call me in the morning.
Laerod
25-07-2005, 09:12
Take two prozac and call me in the morning.I take venlafaxin and I have no money on my cell phone... :p
Dragons Bay
25-07-2005, 09:12
What's there to be depressed about? The sun is shining and you're alive! Go out and enjoy yourself! Take a hot bath!
Laerod
25-07-2005, 09:17
What's there to be depressed about? The sun is shining and you're alive! Go out and enjoy yourself! Take a hot bath!
I'm sorry, but that's actually not true... it's dreadfully cloudy over here, the last time I went out to enjoy myself it was a living nightmare, and I don't have a bathtub... But thanks for caring.
Dragons Bay
25-07-2005, 09:20
I'm sorry, but that's actually not true... it's dreadfully cloudy over here, the last time I went out to enjoy myself it was a living nightmare, and I don't have a bathtub... But thanks for caring.

Without clouds and rain, there is no positive value in the sun.

What did you do last time you tried to enjoy yourself??

Go swimming!

Did you see a doctor?
Laerod
25-07-2005, 09:29
Without clouds and rain, there is no positive value in the sun.

What did you do last time you tried to enjoy yourself??

Go swimming!

Did you see a doctor?
Well, the sky is currently different shades of gray because most of Germany is completely covered by a layer of clouds... hard to appreciate the sun when it's nowhere to be seen.
Anyway, I went to a party on Saturday, in the hopes that it would be fun. I knew that my ex-girlfriend would be there, and for a while when we were setting up we were the only ones there. But as the party commenced, she did the moderation for the beginning program. I couldn't stand it and went for a walk. Things went okay after I came back, but the party hadn't really gone underway. Somehow, my ex kept on bumping into me, whether on purpose or accidentally. After a while, partly because of her and because I didn't like the music, I took another walk on which I had to sit down because I was so overwhelmed with unhappiness. When I came back again, any desire I had to dance had pretty much retreated into a corner and died there. Thinking it was better to feel lonely at home than at a party, I left.
I've been to a doctor and I've been taking medication for about a month and a half now. I've had one therapy session so far, last week. The medication has been dampening the pain, but when the pain gets too great, it doesn't help much. Things have been better before, but they've been sliding downhill of late.
Eddier
25-07-2005, 09:36
Oh, Germany. That explains everything.
Harlesburg
25-07-2005, 09:38
I Know how you feel i got into the same thing 3 months ago.
Heck its called Nationstates itll cure you. ;)

I havent completed ANY of the Age Of Empires series it just gives me something to go back to. 3 years now.
The reason is i dont like losing men.


I dont think he can go swimming-Germany....
Laerod
25-07-2005, 09:38
Oh, Germany. That explains everything.We actually had great weather until people started to be finished with their exams and were free to go and enjoy vacation... :p
[NS:]Poo-Hoo-Boo-Too
25-07-2005, 09:44
i know how you feel buddy, but mine's only been going for about a month (ever since i realised i was madly in love with my closest female friend) and boy does it suck. hang in there buddy, we'll make it through
Harlesburg
25-07-2005, 09:46
Poo-Hoo-Boo-Too']i know how you feel buddy, but mine's only been going for about a month (ever since i realised i was madly in love with my closest female friend) and boy does it suck. hang in there buddy, we'll make it through
PUPPET? ;)
Laerod
25-07-2005, 09:46
I Know how you feel i got into the same thing 3 months ago.
Heck its called Nationstates itll cure you. ;)

I havent completed ANY of the Age Of Empires series it just gives me something to go back to. 3 years now.
The reason is i dont like losing men.


I dont think he can go swimming-Germany....
We have indoor pools here. Anyway, the reason I started this thread was because the depression was making me lose interest in everything I used to enjoy. NationStates is slipping into that category and that's what's bothering me. It would leave sleeping as the only thing I'd still enjoy doing.
Laerod
25-07-2005, 09:50
Poo-Hoo-Boo-Too']i know how you feel buddy, but mine's only been going for about a month (ever since i realised i was madly in love with my closest female friend) and boy does it suck. hang in there buddy, we'll make it throughYeah, that does. I suggest going here (http://www.nimh.nih.gov/publicat/friend.cfm). If you show too many signs, go see a doctor, if you haven't already.
Laerod
25-07-2005, 09:50
PUPPET? ;)Not mine, if that's what you mean...
Harlesburg
25-07-2005, 09:54
We have indoor pools here. Anyway, the reason I started this thread was because the depression was making me lose interest in everything I used to enjoy. NationStates is slipping into that category and that's what's bothering me. It would leave sleeping as the only thing I'd still enjoy doing.
Yon need to see Fairy Tink Pschiatrist. ;)

I know you guys have Pools! LOL
-In fact its my understanding you have one of the largest Indoor Pools in the World.

Not mine, if that's what you mean...
Not really yours but the name seems a bit convienient.....
Laerod
25-07-2005, 09:57
Yon need to see Fairy Tink Pschiatrist. ;)
I s'pose. She's helped my self esteem a bit already (told me I was "bloody cute")
Lashie
25-07-2005, 09:58
I'm currently suffering from a depression that started exactly three months ago. One problem I've been having is that I've lost interest in just about everything I liked doing before. I used to be an avid computer gamer, but I haven't really played anything since I got depressed. One of the only things that I managed to enjoy in this time was NationStates. But now, I'm starting to get the feeling that I'm losing interest in NationStates, which I would regret very much, since it's pretty much the last thing besides sleeping which I can still do.

Anybody care to sympathize, offer advice, tell me to stop whining?

I'd give you some advice but I really don't have any except:

Don't leave NS!!!! :fluffle:

I'm not very good at advice... but yeah you can still talk to me if you want. I've had a friend go through depression and talking seemed to help for her
Ilkathia
25-07-2005, 10:01
I wish I could help, but I'm not doing so well my self, and I'd probably just depress you further if I tried. :(
Good luck, I hope you start feeling better soon...
Laerod
25-07-2005, 10:02
I'd give you some advice but I really don't have any except:

Don't leave NS!!!! :fluffle:

I'm not very good at advice... but yeah you can still talk to me if you want. I've had a friend go through depression and talking seemed to help for her
Yeah, talking really helps. I shoulda started a thread like this ages ago, I was just afraid of being told to stop whining. My main problem is that I have to see my ex pretty much every day, and it keeps ripping open old wounds.
Laerod
25-07-2005, 10:03
I wish I could help, but I'm not doing so well my self, and I'd probably just depress you further if I tried. :(
Good luck, I hope you start feeling better soon...Bah, misery loves company. I'm medicated, so things have to be real bad to hurt me (it happens occasionally, but I doubt you'd be able to)
Lashie
25-07-2005, 10:10
Yeah, talking really helps. I shoulda started a thread like this ages ago, I was just afraid of being told to stop whining. My main problem is that I have to see my ex pretty much every day, and it keeps ripping open old wounds.

No, we won't tell you to stop whining, we're your friends (hey, we may be invisible, but we're listening all the same)

Ouch, is there anyway to stop seeing him/her?
Commie Catholics
25-07-2005, 10:12
Yeah, talking really helps. I shoulda started a thread like this ages ago, I was just afraid of being told to stop whining. My main problem is that I have to see my ex pretty much every day, and it keeps ripping open old wounds.

This may seem irrelivant (sp?), but how intelligent would you say you are?
Laerod
25-07-2005, 10:12
No, we won't tell you to stop whining, we're your friends (hey, we may be invisible, but we're listening all the same)

Ouch, is there anyway to stop seeing him/her?It's easier now that it's examination time and lectures at the University have stopped. Another plus is that the University library has seven stories and a basement, so I can go out of her way rather easily when we're studying...
Laerod
25-07-2005, 10:14
This may seem irrelivant (sp?), but how intelligent would you say you are?
Irrelevant. I'd agree. Um... intelligence... I'd guess (and some others agree) rather high, but I'm too lazy to properly put it to use.
Lashie
25-07-2005, 10:18
It's easier now that it's examination time and lectures at the University have stopped. Another plus is that the University library has seven stories and a basement, so I can go out of her way rather easily when we're studying...

Well that's a good thing, how long are you guys going to be at the same uni?

Edit: CC, what's intelligence got to do with it?

and btw it's irrelevant :D
Laerod
25-07-2005, 10:20
Well that's a good thing, how long are you guys going to be at the same uni?Another 4 semesters, of which one will be abroad, thank goodness. The biggest problem was not being able to avoid her all that well. I hope that the summer break will help me tolerate her presence better. It seemed to work for a while after I started taking medication, but it got worse last week.
Harlesburg
25-07-2005, 10:25
Irrelevant. I'd agree. Um... intelligence... I'd guess (and some others agree) rather high, but I'm too lazy to properly put it to use.
Dont change those are good qualities. ;)

Commie Catholics is 'almost' (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9313905&postcount=57) as Insane as me. :p
Commie Catholics
25-07-2005, 10:28
Dont change those are good qualities. ;)

Commie Catholics is 'almost' (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9313905&postcount=57) as Insane as me. :p

Total nut job that boy. But likeable enough.
Laerod
25-07-2005, 10:29
Dont change those are good qualities. ;)

Commie Catholics is 'almost' (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9313905&postcount=57) as Insane as me. :p
I dunno... the depression has only made my laziness worse. I had an important presentation due in Int'l politics, and I didn't manage to sit down and do it until 4 in the morning of the day it was due. And I sat down to do stuff for it, I just never managed. I got seriously lucky that three of the four exams I wrote so far didn't require much studying.
Harlesburg
25-07-2005, 10:32
I dunno... the depression has only made my laziness worse. I had an important presentation due in Int'l politics, and I didn't manage to sit down and do it until 4 in the morning of the day it was due. And I sat down to do stuff for it, I just never managed. I got seriously lucky that three of the four exams I wrote so far didn't require much studying.
Wow i always left my School work to the last minte but never have really had the ambition to go to Uni-Except if it was in as Animal House way....
(I wish i was D-Day)
Harlesburg
25-07-2005, 10:34
Total nut job that boy. But likeable enough.
Stone the Crows! :p
Fachistos
25-07-2005, 10:35
I dunno... the depression has only made my laziness worse. I had an important presentation due in Int'l politics, and I didn't manage to sit down and do it until 4 in the morning of the day it was due. And I sat down to do stuff for it, I just never managed. I got seriously lucky that three of the four exams I wrote so far didn't require much studying.

Yeah, I know how it is...I hope you could just find some other things to think about and maybe meet some other people. So that you could get your mind of those negative things. It's probably going to take some time but things are going to get better, eventually. Really. Whish you well.
Laerod
25-07-2005, 10:35
Wow i always left my School work to the last minte but never have really had the ambition to go to Uni-Except if it was in as Animal House way....
(I wish i was D-Day)
There's some classes I really enjoy. The int'l politics one for instance. It's one of those I don't really study for since I know a lot already, so I can get away with it.
Laerod
25-07-2005, 10:37
Yeah, I know how it is...I hope you could just find some other things to think about and maybe meet some other people. So that you could get your mind of those negative things. It's probably going to take some time but things are going to get better, eventually. Really. Whish you well.
Yeah, thanks.:)
My real problem is that I basically watch tv, sleep, or do NationStates. Going out with friends is hardly an option because I'm likely to meet my ex, and I don't want Saturday to repeat itself.
Harlesburg
25-07-2005, 10:44
There's some classes I really enjoy. The int'l politics one for instance. It's one of those I don't really study for since I know a lot already, so I can get away with it.
Well if their ever was a Commie Catholics Nation we would have to be concerned.
Laerod
25-07-2005, 10:48
Well if their ever was a Commie Catholics Nation we would have to be concerned.
What's that all about..? :confused:
Laerod
25-07-2005, 11:17
I'd like to thank everyone that took their time to post. It's helped me a bit. I'll be off to lunch now though, so I won't be able to reply to any encouragement I might still receive.
Harlesburg
25-07-2005, 11:28
I'd like to thank everyone that took their time to post. It's helped me a bit. I'll be off to lunch now though, so I won't be able to reply to any encouragement I might still receive.
Its alright!

I was actually just giving CC a paper trail of insults.
Orcadia Tertius
25-07-2005, 11:47
Laerod,

I can't offer you real advice because I don't know you, I don't know what the cause of your depression is or even if there is one.

I can only tell you what I've done about mine. I spent a long time trying to deal with it myself, and didn't tell anyone about it, but these things have to get out and I found myself dealing with it in inappropriate ways involving sharp objects (I had a big problem with that because I was under the impression that only teenage girls did that sort of thing, and I'm a male who was 28 at the time).

Of course, that sort of thing leaves evidence and one of my colleagues picked up on it and I was bundled off to the company counsellor, who directed me to a GP.

To cut a long story short, I've been taking Citalopram for about a year now (and really must order some more because I'm going to run out tomorrow...). Before that it was fluoxetine hydrochloride (which is Prozac without the brand name), but weirdly that numbed my tongue and stopped me talking after a while, so I had to change. I've also got some diazepam to hand if I need a 'quick fix'. Drugs don't actually CURE the problem, but they do help make it more manageable. "Talking treatment" has been a little doubtful for me, because even after several months of it I still haven't been able to identify the root cause of the problem - personally I suspect the cause is simply bio-chemical, rather than some emotional skeleton in the closet.

So if I were going to recommend anything, it'd be that you get yourself down to see the doc right away, explain what's happening (although I know that might be difficult, but believe me, they treat more cases like yours than you might think). They may prescribe medication or they may not - if they do, don't be worried about it, or think that it means you're nuts! I assure you, you'd have a hard time throwing a stone in a busy street without hitting someone who's on medicine like that or who has been on it. You can usually request a talking treatment as well, if you think it'll help (and I'd advise trying it even so) - if you're in Britain that can be arranged on the NHS. Most surgeries have a counsellor attached to them who would be able to see you.

Things to remember: you're not mad. It's a very common problem. It's not anything you need to be ashamed of. Frankly, that you've had the bottle to post about it here is pretty impressive.

Best of luck with it - here's hoping you get it sorted.
Laerod
25-07-2005, 12:20
Thanks Orcadia.

I have been to a doctor and I have gotten medication. There isn't much in your post that I haven't already done or considered, but I'm really grateful for your concern.
I have a root cause, although its very complicated. Basically its about a break up I had three months ago that I haven't managed to get over for various reasons.
Kradlumania
25-07-2005, 12:59
I think other people have suggested it, but go and and do some exercise. It might sound trite, but it can actually help. Exercising releases endorphins into the body that will help cheer you up and tire you out.

When I found my housemate dead a few years ago I would go out and skate for hours at a time. It would take my mind off thinking about it and leave me so tired that I couldn't dwell on it as I would fall asleep as soon as my head hit the pillow.
Jakutopia
25-07-2005, 13:32
If you've been on a medication for 6 weeks and your symptoms got better and then worse again, there is a good chance it may not be the right medication. There are many many anti-depressants on the market and everyone reacts slightly differently to each of them. My doctor and I had to try about 6 different ones before we found the one that worked best for me.

Therapy is important because it can help you identify the roots of your reactions - but knowledge isn't always everything lol.

You're probably not going to like this next suggestion but please give it a try anyway. Spend some time with your friends - and never mind if the ex is there or not, you can't run your whole life and there are always going to be people who are capable of upsetting you if you let them. It's not easy, but taking back the control will help immensely.

You seem to be attending university - you might check with the school about support groups - many young people experience depression during their university years. In my opinion, the best therapy is learning that you are not alone and there are many others who feel as you do - spend some time talkign with them - they may help you and you may get the opportunity to help them.

One of the best things for me to do when I'm down is to do something for someone else - get out of myself so to speak.

Very glad you're talking about it though - hang in there :)
Laerod
25-07-2005, 14:34
You're probably not going to like this next suggestion but please give it a try anyway. Spend some time with your friends - and never mind if the ex is there or not, you can't run your whole life and there are always going to be people who are capable of upsetting you if you let them. It's not easy, but taking back the control will help immensely.
I s'pose this is what I tried to do and it ended in one of the worst experiences in my life... I think it had a bit to do with the fact that I couldn't stand the music they were playing for a while, but being at the party killed any desire to stay after a while...