NationStates Jolt Archive

Anyone else play it? C'mon...I haven't gotten a chance to play multiplayer and I really want to try it out. Preferably more then 3 or 4 people...unless that gets laggy.

Anyone else play it? C'mon...I haven't gotten a chance to play multiplayer and I really want to try it out. Preferably more then 3 or 4 people...unless that gets laggy.
I have the original Superpower, and it, quite frankly, sucks. Is the sequel better?

I have the original Superpower, and it, quite frankly, sucks. Is the sequel better?

No. I hated it. Civilization III is much better.

No. I hated it. Civilization III is much better.
Ugh, if that's ANYTHING like Rise of Nations, I instantly damn it to hell.

No. I hated it. Civilization III is much better.
Yeah, too bad my computer is screwed up and for some reason won’t let me play it online. :(

Ugh, if that's ANYTHING like Rise of Nations, I instantly damn it to hell.
No it isn’t. It’s a turn based game. A very, very good turn based game.

I have the original Superpower, and it, quite frankly, sucks. Is the sequel better?
Ugh, original Superpower demo killed me a little on the inside.

Ugh, if that's ANYTHING like Rise of Nations, I instantly damn it to hell.

What? No, the only similiarity is that they're both strategy games. RoN is real time, Civilization is turn based. (not to mention much better!)

Ugh, if that's ANYTHING like Rise of Nations, I instantly damn it to hell.

What? No, the only similiarity is that they're both strategy games. RoN is real time, Civilization is turn based. (not to mention much better!)

What? No, the only similiarity is that they're both strategy games. RoN is real time, Civilization is turn based. (not to mention much better!)
Resource gathering, that's murder....

Oh lord, I worship SP2. It rocks. Very nice, a big improvement over the first one. Economy is a lot better, too.

I have just resently started doing the online stuff, but dialup can only go so far....

Resource gathering, that's murder....

I like the resource management side of strategy games...

Anyone else play it? C'mon...I haven't gotten a chance to play multiplayer and I really want to try it out. Preferably more then 3 or 4 people...unless that gets laggy.
Congratulations! You are one of the 17 people who actually bought that game.

You buy BF2 yet?

The super power series is terrible.

Really if your into global strat games, you really only have one option for one that isnt totally riddled full of bugs, and its solely based on world war 2. That would be hearts of Iron 2.

Civilization III is much better.

Ah...memories of sleepless nights playing Chinese wiping out the Germans, Aztecs and Americans. It was a hugh world map that shaped like the real world, the entire world was under the Chinese banner except South America when I won that Dominace victory.

Resource gathering, that's murder....
No resource gathering in civilization.

Ah...memories of sleepless nights playing Chinese wiping out the Germans, Aztecs and Americans. It was a hugh world map that shaped like the real world, the entire world was under the Chinese banner except South America when I won that Dominace victory.
Curse you. Now I’m gong to have to go play a game of Civilization, based on the real world map. CURSE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!

Congratulations! You are one of the 17 people who actually bought that game.

You buy BF2 yet?17 is my lucky number. That HAS to be good.

I'm planning on getting BF2, but that's not really the same as buying it, isn't it?

No, I plan on swiping it from a person.

17 is my lucky number. That HAS to be good.

I'm planning on getting BF2, but that's not really the same as buying it, isn't it?

No, I plan on swiping it from a person.

Oh noes.

I kind of liked SP1. it introduced me to global strategy games beyond civilization. Its a simple, unrealistic game but it's okay. i was planning on getting SP2.
Favorite moments in SP1: Conquering every nation but Nato with South Africa. No regional autonomy either. Turning USA into a Monarchy and then invading Iraq.
BTW, if you want global domination try almost anything by Paradox studios. It's also easy to mod. Created an Alternate America Mod for victoria and EU1.

Oh noes.
Well I didn't like having to wear a pirate outfit. So I just resorted to random stealing. ;)

Super Power II is a good game. Hearts of Iron 2 is next on my list of game purchases.

The super power series is terrible.

Really if your into global strat games, you really only have one option for one that isnt totally riddled full of bugs, and its solely based on world war 2. That would be hearts of Iron 2. Blitzkrieg!!! Rulezzz..

Ah...memories of sleepless nights playing Chinese wiping out the Germans, Aztecs and Americans. It was a hugh world map that shaped like the real world, the entire world was under the Chinese banner except South America when I won that Dominace victory.
then u should have turned off domination victory option if u wanted to conquer every last bit of land lol like i did but with the Persians....superpower game sucks..

Has anyone bought Pax Romana?

Congratulations! You are one of the 17 people who actually bought that game.18.

But Superpower 2 just wasn't worth it. Since 'Shadow President' I'd been looking for a game that simulated global politics. Cheesy and soft though it may seem (Brie, perhaps?), one of the things I loved about Shadow President, and Cyberjudas to some degree, was that you could actually bring peace to the world. Even that you could affect the state of the world, including your own country. One of my missions in SP and CJ was often to achieve world peace, which I'd do by intensive diplomatic activity and cultural exchanges, and so on. Because you could actually see things changing for the better it made it rewarding to do this.

But Superpower 2 doesn't allow such initiatives. There are all sorts of things you CAN do - you can change your internal laws, which is a great idea, make certain political parties, or religions, or languages, official, or ban them completely. You can decide whether to allow gay marriage, polygamy, child labour, freedom of speech and demonstration, and suchlike...

But ultimately doing these things doesn't make any difference. There are no diplomatic options save the treaty system which is very very clumsy indeed. And treaties don't really seem to make much difference to your relations which other countries - diplomatic relations just creep up gradually no matter what you do, until you declare war on someone.

Now war, Superpower 2 does do very well. Well, apart from the actual fighting that is. In fact, it doesn't do it well at all. Conventional engagements, to use the vernacular, "suck". Because there is no tactical element - you just throw troops into the mix and watch the numbers on each side fall - it's just a case of committing as many as you can and hoping for the best. Had there been the option for an actual RTS element it would have improved things enormously.

Nuclear strikes are well-presented, because they do what everyone wants of a nuclear war game: they do the "WarGames"-style map of the world (well, globe, in this case) with the missile tracks arcing over from attacker to target, and lots of bright flashes when the target is hit. The problem is that nuclear war doesn't really do anything. Hit a city and the city stays right where it is. Much like Civilization's approach, for some reason nuclear weapons only kill military units.

This wasn't supposed to be a review. But Superpower 2 had so much promise and really failed to live up to it. Proper combat, proper diplomacy, and above all measurable (even noticeable) effects of player actions - all these things would have served to make it a far better game. Realistic handling of nuclear weapons, so that a nuclear strike actually had serious consequences, would have helped, too. I'm sure I'm not the only one to get bored and nuke the world just to see the pretty flashes.

I still love SP2. If anyone logs into it and finds a 'Sandman,' well, he'll be a German arms producer and someone who usually masses so many nukes it kills the world's population.

As to the economy, it is great, same with military. As to the political side, the treaties do lack, and relations always gradualty improve over time unless you do something wrong (like legalize child labor, which'll make the west hate you and the east slightly respect you more). Hell, for fun, I get the world against me and pick a very diverse nation like China and make the lowest populated religion in my nation the only legal one and the lowest populated language my only legal one.

Of course, I get invaded by the second year, if a civil revolt don't accure.

It is a nice game, but some treaties are lacking. NATO usually breaks up when just one member does something the others do not (Usually USA invading an Arab country after Iraq or Syria) and the others leave the treaty, making only one member and it fails.

Tatics are limited to trainning and tech levels, really. Right now, if you have tanks with full stats and air defence with full stats, and fully trainned, and if it ranked 2nd, it will be able to beat 1st, no matter the number unless he had better tech/trainning/numbers than you simpley because tanks own everything ground-borne and air defence kills bombs and attack aircraft.

There is also the flaw of the navy having no point whatsoever, as all they do is just bombard regions.

And nukes do have a very useful purpose. Where ever they hit, the population drops about 90% (the city[ies], not regions) and the military nearly dies, if not fullying is blown up. Infrastructure the entire region drops 80-95%, depending on the tech level of the nuke. I Nuked France with a full military and population of some 100,000,000 people (this is far down the line) and some 5,000 nukes as Germany. Their infrastructure, economy, telecommunications, and populations were cut 99%. Population was some hundred thousand, economy had no resourices or income, and infrastructure was gone with almost no telecommunications. They have uses, but not in small amounts.

I am not defending this, as I think Civ III owns all, but it is a nice game.

IMO Superpower 1 and 2 suck ass.