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Flying ... with children! No place to run, no place to hide!

Eutrusca
24-07-2005, 14:06
COMMENTARY: For any of you who have tried to take an airplane trip with small children, I am of two minds: one, I have great sympathy for you, having been there, done that; but, two, I usually want to strangle you with whatever passes for apron strings these days! This little article by David Brooks is hilarious, but oh so true.


Pain, Agony, Despair: Flying With Children (http://www.nytimes.com/2005/07/24/opinion/24brooks.html?th&emc=th)

By DAVID BROOKS
Published: July 24, 2005

It's summertime, which means many people these days are flying with children, an experience that can be enriching and exciting, and is followed by memories that linger even after the shell shock, nightmares and trauma-induced facial tics have faded away.

Any airplane trip with children begins before boarding in the airport gate area, where the parents, dreading the next four hours of high-altitude agony, will be laying down a bed of psychic tension that will be the karmic foundation for everything that is to come. They will be coaching their children on how to behave, spreading maniacally upbeat good cheer and exuding the waves of anxiety that are almost clinically certain to produce a toddler meltdown.

The airlines helpfully have families with small children board first, which gives parents an extra 45 minutes to play peekaboo even before the plane takes off. As the craft fills up, it becomes clear they and their kids have been seated in a special sadist section, among Idi Amin, the etiquette committee of the Daughters of the American Revolution and a perfect 4-year-old wonder child who will spend the whole flight quietly reading The Economist.

Parents in these early stages of a flight usually devote their fevered energies to entertaining their children. Many parents begin by reading board books in that super-attenuated nursery school tone of voice, and then, sadly, singing to their children every song they know, beginning with age-appropriate lullabies and ending up with a medley of hits from the Spice Girls.

Toddlers sense when their parents are running out of first-rate material and begin squirming and rebelling. This causes the parents to frantically redouble their efforts to distract and entertain, and soon they are behaving like Jerry Lewis on a sugar high - acting out any desperately silly routine they think will occupy their little ones' minds and keep them from letting out their inner Damiens.

It is an iron rule of plane travel that the parents who are trying to hush their children are more annoying to their fellow passengers than the children who are being hushed. Accordingly, other fliers in the area begin to develop hostile feelings toward the desperately shushing parents.

Anybody who thinks it takes a village to raise a child has never sat near a crying baby in first class. In these circumstances, if it were up to the village, somebody would be stapling the brat's mouth shut and somebody else would be locking mom in the overhead storage compartment.

By this time the parents have given up on trying to entertain their kids and have resorted to bribery. They are pulling out any toy they think might occupy their children's attention.

But the kids are in such a lather, the faster the parents offer toys, the more furiously the kids throw them away so that the rows begin to look like Playmobil volcanoes, with little toy Vikings flying 20 feet through the air while the parents are frantically trying to pin their kids' arms to their chests.

The children are now completely out of control and are behaving as if they were raised by feral wolves. They will be pummeling the seat in front of them with their feet or else playing other manic airplane games, such as Tray Table Trampoline. Amid the frenzy, parents will observe that one child has turned green, which means that every passenger along the aisle between them and the restroom will be an unwitting participant in a contest called Air Sickness Roulette.

When things are at their worst, the flight attendant will unfailingly come by to offer insincere sympathy, in so doing sending the parents (who have by now reached the psychic state of the Robert De Niro character in "Taxi Driver") into a near-homicidal rage. If the F.D.A. approved a do-it-yourself anesthesia kit, mom would be using it on the little vermin, while dad contemplates scaring the kids into silence by showing them "The Exorcist"- let their future analysts worry about the consequences later on.

The final hour of the flight is aptly captured by Picasso's painting "Guernica." Parents are strewn about in heaps, hardened air marshals are weeping under the strain, the kids look like flesh-eating Beanie Babies, and the pilots emerge to complain that because of the kids' crying they can't hear the air traffic controllers (this actually happened to my family).

But then, just as human endurance reaches its breaking point, the plane finishes its descent and the plane door opens, offering an avenue for escape.

And at that moment the kids fall blissfully asleep.
Eutrusca
24-07-2005, 15:36
Bump!
Potaria
24-07-2005, 15:57
It's rather difficult to calm a baby down when it's screaming because of the pressure it can't relieve (ever seen a baby hold its nose and blow out to pressurise its ears? didn't think so). However, a lot of parents just don't care either way, so...
Borgoa
24-07-2005, 16:08
I think the demographics on this forum mean that most posters don't have children... .hence the lack of replies.

I have to say I have two young children (2 and 4 years), and I've never had any problems with them (although we've only taken them in the air twice and three times respectively). I think perhaps in the US children suffer boredom more easily as they are so used to being placed in front of 24h childrens' television channels rather than playing actively and naturally, that and the diet of processed foods that Americans generally consume.

I have read a number of studies that show that the diet is the primary reason for noticable rise in children with problems such as hyperactivity etc in the United States as compared to some other countries. Swedish child-care still heavily empasises the use of natural ingredients... and we only recently have 24 hours television and its still not so common for children to be placed in front of the tv for such long periods (although my children must watch Bolibompa (http://www.svt.se/bolibompa) ;) ). These days even here we have childrens' tv channels, even by SVT :rolleyes: . Gone are the days when television was only in the evenings!
Eutrusca
24-07-2005, 16:48
I think the demographics on this forum mean that most posters don't have children... .hence the lack of replies.

I have to say I have two young children (2 and 4 years), and I've never had any problems with them (although we've only taken them in the air twice and three times respectively). I think perhaps in the US children suffer boredom more easily as they are so used to being placed in front of 24h childrens' television channels rather than playing actively and naturally, that and the diet of processed foods that Americans generally consume.

I have read a number of studies that show that the diet is the primary reason for noticable rise in children with problems such as hyperactivity etc in the United States as compared to some other countries. Swedish child-care still heavily empasises the use of natural ingredients... and we only recently have 24 hours television and its still not so common for children to be placed in front of the tv for such long periods (although my children must watch Bolibompa (http://www.svt.se/bolibompa) ;) ). These days even here we have childrens' tv channels, even by SVT :rolleyes: . Gone are the days when television was only in the evenings!
All I can speak from on this is my own experience, but none of my five children use the TV as a babysitter, and all but one of them feed their children natural foods, avoiding such things as "snack foods" and candy.
Borgoa
24-07-2005, 16:59
All I can speak from on this is my own experience, but none of my five children use the TV as a babysitter, and all but one of them feed their children natural foods, avoiding such things as "snack foods" and candy.
That is good. I think the trend towards both is sadly increasing everywhere in the western world (although clearly more established and prominent in some locations).
Celtlund
24-07-2005, 16:59
The solution; take a baby bottle and fill it 1/3 with vodka, 1/3 with gin, and 1/3 with burbon. Drink it yourself and you won't give a damn what the kid does. :D
Sabbatis
24-07-2005, 17:08
Funny article, can relate to that! We always avoided sugar and 'snack' foods too, and never used TV as a babysitter. I think we had an easier time than our peers who did.
Neo Kervoskia
24-07-2005, 17:14
Give the kid some Nyquil.
Czardas
24-07-2005, 17:23
Don't have kids in the first place.
Lunatic Goofballs
24-07-2005, 18:06
The solution; take a baby bottle and fill it 1/3 with vodka, 1/3 with gin, and 1/3 with burbon. Drink it yourself and you won't give a damn what the kid does. :D

YAY! :D
Israelities et Buddist
24-07-2005, 18:10
Wait Etrusca you mean you havent murdered a child on an aero? :eek: :D

No wait, I am very kid friendly. I actually am the aquatic directour at our Y and teach swim lessons. One the oh-so-loverly seminars we had to attend was how calm children and we spent like 5 minutes on aeros and midgits, Opps I mean little children. Usually all you have to do is give them food to chew, but there are other ways. Their jaw movement then causes the air pressure to release. If I ever get on an aero with a child nearby I always try to help the parent out, because it can be very embarassing for them.(Trust me, I fly everywhere and anywhere all the time)


Oddly Enough I have cousin named David Brooks... But I doubt one in the same. :p
Lunatic Goofballs
24-07-2005, 18:13
This is why Florida lets you use tasers on children. :)

Airplanes are not conducive to child behavior under the BEST of circumstances. You get a child who is a barely controlled burn, and you're just asking for a wildfire.

The solutions are all easy and obvious, but is certain to outrage a few busybodies who somehow have brainwashed themselves into thinking that all children are innocent angels.

The first and best solution is simple; sedation. Hell, some grown-ups could use a dose too.

Duct-tape and a ball gag also work wonders. :D
Lord-General Drache
24-07-2005, 18:19
This is why Florida lets you use tasers on children. :)

Airplanes are not conducive to child behavior under the BEST of circumstances. You get a child who is a barely controlled burn, and you're just asking for a wildfire.

The solutions are all easy and obvious, but is certain to outrage a few busybodies who somehow have brainwashed themselves into thinking that all children are innocent angels.

The first and best solution is simple; sedation. Hell, some grown-ups could use a dose too.

Duct-tape and a ball gag also work wonders. :D
LOL..Finally, a parent who sees reason!
Alien Born
24-07-2005, 18:22
It must be the British explorer genes or something, but when we first had to travel any distance with our son (England to Brazil - 12+ hours in the air) what happened is that while we were at the airport, checking in, awaiting bording and bording he payed a lot of attention, at the age of 11 months, to what was going on. We placed him in the bassinet that the airline provided and he gurgled away happily while the airplane taxied onto the runway. Then the take off acceleration and what he do? Fell asleep. He slept 10 out of the 12+ hours, did not cry once and it seems that only those next to us realised that he was there at all.

He has clocked up some 50,000 miles in the air, and never a problem. Now he is nearly nine, and if we have to fly, it is like having to go on a long car journey. Sweets, books, etc. The big problem is boredom.

Not all children are problems in travelling, but I guess we are just lucky. (It helps I suppose that neither of us are in the slightest scared of flying, so no fear was transmitted.)
Israelities et Buddist
24-07-2005, 18:25
This is why Florida lets you use tasers on children. :)

Snip

The first and best solution is simple; sedation. Hell, some grown-ups could use a dose too.

Duct-tape and a ball gag also work wonders. :D

Hmmm... really? :confused: I have a place in Florida that I fly to and if you ask me some of the 16 yrs old spoiled brats need tasers,


I think I have used those techniques on a plane before, just not on chidren. :eek:

Oh AB your child sounds like me when I was midget. I loved flying still do. My parents used to tell me how I would hysterically giggle then fall asleep, giggle, sleep, eat, giggle, sleep, etc.... I think you get how it works.
Lunatic Goofballs
24-07-2005, 18:28
Hmmm... really? :confused: I have a place in Florida that I fly to and if you ask me some of the 16 yrs old spoiled brats need tasers,


I think I have used those techniques on a plane before, just not on chidren. :eek:

The day someone creates 'Star Trek' phasers with stun settings, all our problems are solved.

ANd when I get my hands on one...*devious cackle*
Marrakech II
24-07-2005, 18:29
Have two children myself. Neither one has been a problem. Our daughter just took her first flight at 4 months last week. She handled a 14 hour flight just fine. Smiling and sleeping the majority of the time. But I have been on those flights where it seems your surrounded by crying children. No sleep and the stares from others at the parents. Have seen it and know full well what the downsides can be. Fortunate for us we havent had the problem.
Israelities et Buddist
24-07-2005, 18:30
The day someone creates 'Star Trek' phasers with stun settings, all our problems are solved.

ANd when I get my hands on one...*devious cackle*

Oh I was more talking about the sedating and gaging in that bottom part. :D
Lunatic Goofballs
24-07-2005, 18:33
Oh I was more talking about the sedating and gaging in that bottom part. :D

That comes next. :D
Israelities et Buddist
24-07-2005, 18:34
That comes next. :D
Oh yes once you tazer them you gag and sedate them or the parents.... Which ever you choose. :rolleyes:
Greedy Pig
24-07-2005, 18:39
I'm prone to getting ear infection and flu.

When I was a kid about 2-3 years, on one of my first flight of the airplane, because of my ear infection+flu, during takeoff, the ear pressure built up so much in my ear that I think i popped a vein or something. Blood starting trickling out of my ear and my mom freaked out.

I'm alright and hear 100% alright right now.
Kradlumania
24-07-2005, 18:41
I remember a flight from somewhere years ago (Yugoslavia? Greece? somewhere Adriatic I think) when I had this screaming kid next to me for the whole flight. Worse thing was, it was my brother. I don't think I've ever forgiven him.
Potaria
24-07-2005, 18:43
I remember a flight from somewhere years ago (Yugoslavia? Greece? somewhere Adriatic I think) when I had this screaming kid next to me for the whole flight. Worse thing was, it was my brother. I don't think I've ever forgiven him.

Should've socked him in the face. Seriously.
Katganistan
24-07-2005, 18:58
Crying does not bother me -- I feel sorry for both the parent and the kid afflicted. What bothers me is the little bastard sitting behind you who has to kick the seat every five and a half seconds.

Kick 1: Ignore.
Kick 2: Evil look.
Kick 3: Sweetie, could you please not kick the back of my seat?
Kick 4: Pardon me, could you ask your child to stop kicking my seat?
Kick 5: (To steward or stewardess) Either get this child to stop kicking my seat NOW or move me NOW.
Kick 6: (hissed under breath) Would you like to ride in the overhead?
Greedy Pig
24-07-2005, 19:02
Choke them out. Do a back choke, cross-lapel choke, anything!

Just make sure they start breathing after that as well.