NationStates Jolt Archive


Sex Ed. and the Rise of New Sprite

Neo Kervoskia
23-07-2005, 21:55
There hasn't been a thread about this topic in, hours I think. Last year in school we had a sex ed teacher come in and talk about the dangers of unrestricted sexual engagement. He used an anecdote, he had sex once with one person about a decade before he was married. He said the experience was hard to tell his wife because he hadn't "saved" himself for her... :headbang: Then talked about STDs and the emotional harm. He said save sex for marriage. To which I replied "I don't want to be married." He retorted, "What arer you relationship plans ?" I said, "I don't have any plans." He finally gave up and replied with "Okay...just wait until you're in a stable relationship"

Then someone asked why not use contraception, he said they often have holes in them and fail quite a bit. To add to this, a week before a person came in and showed up slides of people who had various STDs.

Is it just me or is sex education a crock of shit, or at least this sort?
New Watenho
23-07-2005, 21:58
Agenda-based sex education is. Accurate sex education is necessary; sex education with such an obvious political agenda is useless.
Drunk commies deleted
23-07-2005, 21:59
There hasn't been a thread about this topic in, hours I think. Last year in school we had a sex ed teacher come in and talk about the dangers of unrestricted sexual engagement. He used an anecdote, he had sex once with one person about a decade before he was married. He said the experience was hard to tell his wife because he hadn't "saved" himself for her... :headbang: Then talked about STDs and the emotional harm. He said save sex for marriage. To which I replied "I don't want to be married." He retorted, "What arer you relationship plans ?" I said, "I don't have any plans." He finally gave up and replied with "Okay...just wait until you're in a stable relationship"

Then someone asked why not use contraception, he said they often have holes in them and fail quite a bit. To add to this, a week before a person came in and showed up slides of people who had various STDs.

Is it just me or is sex education a crock of shit, or at least this sort?
Yeah, it's a crock of shit. Condoms almost never have holes in them and very seldom fail. It sounds like your school is using one of those crazy "abstinance only" programs that the Christian right love so much.
CSW
23-07-2005, 22:01
Yeah, it's a crock of shit. Condoms almost never have holes in them and very seldom fail. It sounds like your school is using one of those crazy "abstinance only" programs that the Christian right love so much.
Except when people put holes in them.
Taldaan
23-07-2005, 22:02
Just get a book or something, and sleep in the lessons. They're bullshit.
Scamptica Prime
23-07-2005, 22:16
The sex ed 2 class lesson my pe class got during the health unit dealt with contaceptives, of course, it's canadian and going to a public highschool.
Eternal Green Rain
23-07-2005, 22:17
Except when people put holes in them.
And that happens how?
Personally I buy my condoms, check the box is not unsealed and keep 'em in the bedside cabinet for when I need them.
The hole fairy has never visited. :rolleyes:
The tiny failure rate of condoms is almost totally due to mis-use. Wrong size, not on fully, staying in after ejactulation and just plain stupidity.
If used correctly a condom with spemicide is pretty much fully secure.

Sex ed. of this pathetic type should be against the law. It's dangerous to tell kids to avoid sex. I know I didn't care how I got laid when I was young and there was no way I'd turn down a jump. Thanks the gods for my rubber friends.
Klardeidgertharr
23-07-2005, 22:19
We didn't even have sex ed in my school. We had a health class that touched on sex for about two minutes. It's important that kids know how to protect themselves if they do choose to have sex, and I don't think it's a bad thing to encourage abstinence, but a sex ed teacher really has no right to demand it from you and basically tell you that it's your only option. Abstinence is the best way to protect yourself from STDs and unwanted babies, but I don't think it's realistic to expect that even half the students this teacher is preaching to will choose that option, so it is best to focus on different varieties of birth control and especially condoms along with the risks of each.

Because I know everyone cares about my opinion on the subject.
Kiwi-kiwi
23-07-2005, 22:21
And that happens how?

Well, there is a thing that is sometimes called 'oopsing' that involves meddling with contraceptives to either become pregnant, or get another pregnant.
Marxistichefreiheit
23-07-2005, 22:21
here's the deal, for the most part in the US Sex ed organizations that teach only abstinence recieve state funding, therefore state funded public schools get their services for free. Actual education on the topic comes only from privately funded organizations that usualy costs money for a school. I don't know about you but my highschool is tightassed and doesn't like spending any money so you see how it goes from there. The reality is that condoms are something like 83% effective at preventing pregnancy the birthcontrol pill when taken properly is over 99% effective (mostly because in medicine and science the only thing thats 100% is the fact that nothing is 100%). There is now a birth control pill for guys, i don't know the medicine on that one yet but I would assume that it works as a short term internal spermicide you'll have to do you own research.
Church and State are not seperate in America, this is just one of many bits of proof. Abstain because god wants you to, even if you have no god.
Neo Kervoskia
23-07-2005, 22:21
Luckily my Wellness teacher had enough sense to cover contraceptives.
Klardeidgertharr
23-07-2005, 22:23
I actually think that holes most often occur in relationships where one partner wants a baby and the other doesn't...of course it is also possible that people run around sabotaging the birth control of others. To me that's crossing a line though. No one else has the right to make that decision that the people involved, and both should be involved in that decision.
Marxistichefreiheit
23-07-2005, 22:26
I heard in the news at some point, I don't recall when or where, but there was a guy working in a drug store and was fired and had charges pressed agaisnt him for sticking boxes of condoms with pins to put holes in them. Sorry for the lack of detail my memory fails when it comes to news.
Eternal Green Rain
23-07-2005, 22:26
Well, there is a thing that is sometimes called 'oopsing' that involves meddling with contraceptives to either become pregnant, or get another pregnant.
If you've used a condom you'll realise that they inflate slightly when put on. A hole, even tiny would stop that and seem quite odd.

Also, who the hell are you sleeping with who wants to "trick" someone into getting pregnant and what man ever want to get a woman pregnant without her say so?

Keep YOUR condoms safe and trust yourself and you should be totally safe. (if you're a woman then provide the condom if you don't trust men)

EDIT i dont get this pin hole theory. They're wrapped in foil. Holes in the foil wrapper are obvious. I just whipped one out of my wallet and got my wife to perforate it with a sewing needle. The costs I go to for you guys. :p
Liskeinland
23-07-2005, 22:27
Our (British) sex education consisted on watching videos in which people get unpleasant diseases, and vague mumblings about contraceptives. Personally, I think that since neither abstinence nor contraceptive-based education really works, more fear tactics ought to be used. Fear works well.
Drunk commies deleted
23-07-2005, 22:32
Except when people put holes in them.
That's true. My friends and I like to go to the local drugstore with a needle and poke holes in the condoms when we're bored. :rolleyes: :eek: :rolleyes:
Bolol
23-07-2005, 22:35
Is it just me or is sex education a crock of shit, or at least this sort?

It's not you...it is a crock of shit.

I support informative and impartial sex-education that touches on everything from contraception to emotional consequences. But, if the parents feel as though they have taught their children enough, or they feel as though it is inappropriate for them, they can opt out...that's LEGAL.

Don't drag everyone else down because it sounds "icky".
Liskeinland
23-07-2005, 22:41
It's not you...it is a crock of shit.

I support informative and impartial sex-education that touches on everything from contraception to emotional consequences. But, if the parents feel as though they have taught their children enough, or they feel as though it is inappropriate for them, they can opt out...that's LEGAL.

Don't drag everyone else down because it sounds "icky". I don't get why people get so upset about contraceptive-based sex education. My parents are Catholics and they view it as a joke, as I do… and believe me, in Britain it is a joke. I still reckon they ought to use scare tactics more… who knows, it might even work!
Eternal Green Rain
23-07-2005, 22:42
The reality is that condoms are something like 83% effective at preventing pregnancy.

Just not true I'm afraid.

There were 4,637 attempts to use condoms. On six occasions the condoms broke before intercourse, leaving 4,631 condoms used for intercourse. Thirteen breaks occurred during intercourse (0.28%), and the total breakage rate was 0.41%. Complete slips were recorded on 29 occasions (0.63%) and 21 of these were recorded by the same couple. The overall failure rate of 0.91%, or an effectiveness rate of 99.1%. The total failure rate was 1.04%.

from here (http://www.jr2.ox.ac.uk/bandolier/band64/b64-4.html)

These surveys seem to have a lot of breakage and slippage which I've never found. Maybe it justs just not for everyone. It the condom fits then use it is my best advice.
Marxistichefreiheit
23-07-2005, 22:42
The problem is that this stuff is controled by the conservative christian right, who is tired of people having sex with little or no conciquence, so they tell you not to have sex, but don't tell you how to have sex safely. So either people don't have sex or they have the consequences fo their actions to deal with. It really is a brilliant plan, unfortunately that brilliance is being used for evil and half of all sexualy active americans have HPV(warts) and something like a one third have a bacterial STI (Ghonorea Chlamydia and so on). USE CONDOMS AND GET CHECKED REGULARLY.

Edit sorry Rain i must be goin off of old numbers (i'm tryin to do this from memory and i probably should get some factual back up, but i like your numbers better quails more of the paranoia)
Turquoise Days
23-07-2005, 22:44
It really is a brilliant plan, unfortunately that brilliance is being used for evil and half of all sexualy active americans have HPV(warts) and something like a one third have a bacterial STI (Ghonorea Chlamydia and so on). USE CONDOMS AND GET CHECKED REGULARLY.
Are you sure about that? Linky me.
Marxistichefreiheit
23-07-2005, 22:51
See the above edit
I am more sure about the HPV number than the other. for the HPV stats I'm quoting what I have heard from an actual physician, Dr. Drew Pinsky, you might have heard of him he has a radio talk show and now a show on the Discovery Health Channel.
Eternal Green Rain
23-07-2005, 22:54
While trying to find numbers to support Marxistichefreiheit's fugure I came across this and it says it all.

Young Americans who pledge to remain virgins until they marry have the same rates of sexually transmitted diseases as those who do not, a new study says

Link (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3546007.stm)

This kind of backs up the infection rate figures.

Chlamydia is the most frequently reported bacterial sexually transmitted disease in the United States. In 2002, 834,555 chlamydial infections were reported to CDC from 50 states and the District of Columbia. Under-reporting is substantial because most people with chlamydia are not aware of their infections and do not seek testing. Also, testing is not often done if patients are treated for their symptoms. An estimated 2.8 million Americans are infected with chlamydia each year. Women are frequently re-infected if their sex partners are not treated.



That ones at this site (http://www.cdc.gov/std/chlamydia/)

EDIT same site quotes the following scarey data for genital herpes.
Results of a nationally representative study show that genital herpes infection is common in the United States. Nationwide, at least 45 million people ages 12 and older, or one out of five adolescents and adults, have had genital HSV infection. Between the late 1970s and the early 1990s, the number of Americans with genital herpes infection increased 30 percent.


Yes that says 45 MILLION
Kiwi-kiwi
23-07-2005, 22:56
If you've used a condom you'll realise that they inflate slightly when put on. A hole, even tiny would stop that and seem quite odd.

Also, who the hell are you sleeping with who wants to "trick" someone into getting pregnant and what man ever want to get a woman pregnant without her say so?

Keep YOUR condoms safe and trust yourself and you should be totally safe. (if you're a woman then provide the condom if you don't trust men)

EDIT i dont get this pin hole theory. They're wrapped in foil. Holes in the foil wrapper are obvious. I just whipped one out of my wallet and got my wife to perforate it with a sewing needle. The costs I go to for you guys. :p

Who says we're talking about me? I don't do sex. But the fact is that I've seen stories of people who are willing to poke holes in condoms to get the end result of a baby. I've also heard of people telling a lover they're on birth control when they're not, among other things. Some people are creepy, and others think babies will mean that their lover with stick with them.
Marxistichefreiheit
23-07-2005, 22:58
http://www.ashastd.org/stdfaqs/statistics.html
This isn't specific about types of STDs but it has some numbers for you.
Magnus Maha
23-07-2005, 22:59
my sex edumacation class was taught by a little ole lady who never even said the word sex, now if i was in charge i would have hired a couple hookers to show off std's in person ;)
Eternal Green Rain
23-07-2005, 23:00
http://www.ashastd.org/stdfaqs/statistics.html
This isn't specific about types of STDs but it has some numbers for you.
OVER 65 million?
wow. What is the population of the US and why are these people being sooooo stupid?
Killaly
23-07-2005, 23:00
There hasn't been a thread about this topic in, hours I think. Last year in school we had a sex ed teacher come in and talk about the dangers of unrestricted sexual engagement. He used an anecdote, he had sex once with one person about a decade before he was married. He said the experience was hard to tell his wife because he hadn't "saved" himself for her... :headbang: Then talked about STDs and the emotional harm. He said save sex for marriage. To which I replied "I don't want to be married." He retorted, "What arer you relationship plans ?" I said, "I don't have any plans." He finally gave up and replied with "Okay...just wait until you're in a stable relationship"

Then someone asked why not use contraception, he said they often have holes in them and fail quite a bit. To add to this, a week before a person came in and showed up slides of people who had various STDs.

Is it just me or is sex education a crock of shit, or at least this sort?

Ya, it is. But it's worth it. I mean, look at Africa. There isn't any Sex Ed there, and look how fast AIDS is spreading.
Marxistichefreiheit
23-07-2005, 23:05
people are stupid because they aren't taught the proper way to be smart about things like that.
Also AIDS is now moreso a blood disease than a sexual infection. Majority of transmission in Africa is a result of medical malpractice such as re using dirty needles.
Eternal Green Rain
23-07-2005, 23:08
Arrrr.
11PM.
Going to bed while I've still got half a chance to use one of those un-perforated condoms.

Bye

Rainy
[NS]Ihatevacations
23-07-2005, 23:16
people are stupid because they aren't taught the proper way to be smart about things like that.
Also AIDS is now moreso a blood disease than a sexual infection. Majority of transmission in Africa is a result of medical malpractice such as re using dirty needles.
africa is another story in a different book
Taldaan
23-07-2005, 23:19
Ya, it is. But it's worth it. I mean, look at Africa. There isn't any Sex Ed there, and look how fast AIDS is spreading.

The sort of sex education described in the thread is worse than useless. Anyone who had not learnt about sex before would take the material taught as gospel, and then suffer the consequences when they have unsafe sex. If people are taught nothing, then at least some of them might make the effort to find out about safe sex themselves.
Randomlittleisland
23-07-2005, 23:25
I live in England and the sex ed. here is pretty good and impartial, the only exception was when we had an incompetant Australian as our P.S.H.E teacher (I was twelve at the time). As a homework one time he told us to write a lesson plan for what pupils should be taught about sex at 5, 10, 12, 15 and 18 years old. I asked how we were supposed to know what should only be taught to 18 year olds as we were only 12 but he evaded the question.

One year later he left the school very quietly, without even an announcement in assembly, and a year ago we spotted him working in a burger van :rolleyes: .
Comedy Option
23-07-2005, 23:29
Who in their right mind would teach abstinence to a bunch of horny teens? It's bound to fail, condoms are very safe if used correctly, and all that talk about emotional damage? I mean, when the government can't protect your feelings, who can?
Comedy Option
23-07-2005, 23:31
people are stupid because they aren't taught the proper way to be smart about things like that.
Also AIDS is now moreso a blood disease than a sexual infection. Majority of transmission in Africa is a result of medical malpractice such as re using dirty needles.
But all you have to do is have sex with a virgin and it will all go away? :confused:
Huldah
23-07-2005, 23:37
But all you have to do is have sex with a virgin and it will all go away? :confused:

Actually in certain areas of Africa there is an age cap on the virgin...like one or so I think. So I guess it's sort of like a human sacrifice to the AIDS gor or something.
Oxwana
23-07-2005, 23:42
Sex Ed is pretty good up here in Canada, but no one can know everything, not even the sex ed teachers... But they are the authority on sex, so if they are biased, or just misinformed... Bad news.
I had a very agravating discussion with my gym teacher in grade 9; she told us that you could get STIs or HIV if you had anal sex but you couldn't get preggers. :headbang:
For the record, you can get pregnant if you only have anal sex.
It's, um, a "leakage" issue.
I was thirteen, and even I knew that, but as far as I know she still thinks that anal sex is a legitimate method of birth control... And she had all the other impressionable youths convinced too.
Scary, no?
Our whole society needs to be more open about these things.
Tetragrammatonia
23-07-2005, 23:43
Just not true I'm afraid.



from here (http://www.jr2.ox.ac.uk/bandolier/band64/b64-4.html)

These surveys seem to have a lot of breakage and slippage which I've never found. Maybe it justs just not for everyone. It the condom fits then use it is my best advice.


The slippage is aminly caused by men who are overrating themselves "Yeah I'd like a sma--er extra large please?"
_Susa_
23-07-2005, 23:50
I can't see why they just don't tell you to use a condom.
Lord-General Drache
23-07-2005, 23:50
I'd have to say that the sex education that was given to me was rather sad. I knew the material well ahead of time (not from experience, mind) and knew it was lacking. They stress abstinence (understandable but not the only option), and pretty much completely skipped the effectiveness of contraceptives, as well their downfalls (I believe that both sides should be given in order to give a full and complete education). The course focused mostly on STDs and the dangers of sex, and didn't ever seem very open for questions. To me, it seemed like they were trying to teach their perfect idea of sex, and not how it is in the real world.
Comedy Option
23-07-2005, 23:52
Sex Ed is pretty good up here in Canada, but no one can know everything, not even the sex ed teachers... But they are the authority on sex, so if they are biased, or just misinformed... Bad news.
I had a very agravating discussion with my gym teacher in grade 9; she told us that you could get STIs or HIV if you had anal sex but you couldn't get preggers. :headbang:
For the record, you can get pregnant if you only have anal sex.
It's, um, a "leakage" issue.
I was thirteen, and even I knew that, but as far as I know she still thinks that anal sex is a legitimate method of birth control... And she had all the other impressionable youths convinced too.
Scary, no?
Our whole society needs to be more open about these things.
Dude, you cannot get pregnant from anal sex. Who told you that?
Comedy Option
23-07-2005, 23:55
I can't see why they just don't tell you to use a condom.
Because the human body is evil and sex is a sin. Jesus doesn't like when you touch your naughty bits.

You see, sex, which is essential for our survival as a species, and a part of our very nature as humas, IS EVIL. Durrrr...
Oxwana
24-07-2005, 00:02
Dude, you cannot get pregnant from anal sex. Who told you that?You can't get pregnant from anal sex.
You can get pregnant if you have unprotected anal sex. Odds are slim, but my point is that anal sex is not birth control. If one's anus is filled with semen, some of it may leak out and into the vagina.
I was hoping to not have to go there, but like I said, we need to be open about these things. :)
Undelia
24-07-2005, 00:15
Does anybody else think that the government should have no say about people’s sex lives at all, and it should be the responsibility of parents to educate their kids about such things?
No?
Just checking. *sigh*
Taldaan
24-07-2005, 00:26
Does anybody else think that the government should have no say about people’s sex lives at all, and it should be the responsibility of parents to educate their kids about such things?
No?
Just checking. *sigh*

The Government should always retain some say in people's sex lives. Paedophilia comes to mind. Having parents educate the kids about sex is a good idea, as long as the parents:

A. Recieved good sex education themselves
B. Can talk openly and honestly about sex

This would certainly stop the fundies from pushing their abstinence-only education on everyone, but could lead to a spread of dangerous myths.
Liberal Feminists
24-07-2005, 00:32
Ok kiddies, since it seems that none of you can trust school sex ed (trust me, none of us can. they taught us that you can get hiv/aids through sweat and spit whereas there are no recorded cases of that happening.) you should browse around here: http://plannedparenthood.org/pp2/portal/medicalinfo/teensexualhealth/;jsessionid=A1722E1690DF735BC3344A57D4BB4E7F I picked the teen page since a majority of you appear to be teens, but look around the rest of the site too. Oh yea, all those who said that schools are controlled by the christian right are right.
Comedy Option
24-07-2005, 00:36
You can't get pregnant from anal sex.
You can get pregnant if you have unprotected anal sex. Odds are slim, but my point is that anal sex is not birth control. If one's anus is filled with semen, some of it may leak out and into the vagina.
I was hoping to not have to go there, but like I said, we need to be open about these things. :)
No, unless you have a hole in the upper vagina wall, you cannot get pregnant from unprotected anal sex. And such a hole could only be made by stabbing yourself in the vagina or rectum and then blood and feces would leak into your vagina, causing all hell to break loose.

Semen leaking out of the anus would have extreme difficulty going back into the vagina, I don't see how that can happen unless you stick a finger in your semen-fillen anus and insert it in your vagina.

So no, you cannot.
Liberal Feminists
24-07-2005, 00:38
Comedy Option, you're pretty much right. Some women have a condition though, I believe its called an obstetric fistula (look up Nicholas Kritoffs NYTIMES op-eds. i think that one was called the illiterate surgeon) that occurs after a long and horrid childbirth that kinda screws everything up... anyway, but no, there is no way you can get pregnant from oral or anal sex if you are healthy.
Comedy Option
24-07-2005, 00:39
Does anybody else think that the government should have no say about people’s sex lives at all, and it should be the responsibility of parents to educate their kids about such things?
No?
Just checking. *sigh*
No, because you could just replace sex lives with math, history or biology. The school has a curriculum you agree to if you attend it, so if you don't like what they teach, you can home-school your kids.
Undelia
24-07-2005, 00:41
The Government should always retain some say in people's sex lives. Paedophilia comes to mind.
Stopping pedophilia is a matter of public order, not sexuality. It should be viewed as a violent crime, not a sexual one.
Lord-General Drache
24-07-2005, 00:43
Comedy Option, you're pretty much right. Some women have a condition though, I believe its called an obstetric fistula (look up Nicholas Kritoffs NYTIMES op-eds. i think that one was called the illiterate surgeon) that occurs after a long and horrid childbirth that kinda screws everything up... anyway, but no, there is no way you can get pregnant from oral or anal sex if you are healthy.
Yeah, that's the name of it. Nasty things, fistulas.
Undelia
24-07-2005, 00:45
No, because you could just replace sex lives with math, history or biology. The school has a curriculum you agree to if you attend it, so if you don't like what they teach, you can home-school your kids.
I think sex life is a little more intimate than those other subjects you mentioned. Besides, I’m saying it shouldn’t be a part of the curriculum in the first place. At least in the US, parents can opt their kids out of sex ed, if they wish.
Liberal Feminists
24-07-2005, 00:50
I think sex life is a little more intimate than those other subjects you mentioned. Besides, I’m saying it shouldn’t be a part of the curriculum in the first place. At least in the US, parents can opt their kids out of sex ed, if they wish.
Undelia, if its not taught in schools, many kids won't learn it at all. Its the gov'ts moral responsibility to teach it.
Oxwana
24-07-2005, 01:05
No, unless you have a hole in the upper vagina wall, you cannot get pregnant from unprotected anal sex.No, you can't, as I said: You can't get pregnant from anal sex.
Semen leaking out of the anus would have extreme difficulty going back into the vaginaNot as difficult as one might think.

My point is not that it is likely that you will get pregnant from unprotected anal sex, rather that it is possible to get pregnant if you have unprotected anal sex.
Comedy Option
24-07-2005, 01:14
I think sex life is a little more intimate than those other subjects you mentioned. Besides, I’m saying it shouldn’t be a part of the curriculum in the first place. At least in the US, parents can opt their kids out of sex ed, if they wish.
Well I think math is a little more intimate/evil/non-famly-values/<insert issue> than those other subjects so why can't I... Se where I'm going? You can change the curriculum through the system, choose another school or tell your kids your own "truth".
Comedy Option
24-07-2005, 01:16
No, you can't, as I said:
Not as difficult as one might think.

My point is not that it is likely that you will get pregnant from unprotected anal sex, rather that it is possible to get pregnant if you have unprotected anal sex.
I can agree its possible, so let's leave it and that and continue to sodomize shall we? :)
Undelia
24-07-2005, 01:18
Undelia, if its not taught in schools, many kids won't learn it at all. Its the gov'ts moral responsibility to teach it.
Maybe in your opinion, but, personally, I believe the government's only responsibility is to protect it’s citizens from having their rights violated and to provide some basic infrastructure.
Oxwana
24-07-2005, 01:29
I can agree its possible, so let's leave it and that and continue to sodomize shall we? :)Sounds like a plan. :fluffle:
Neo Rogolia
24-07-2005, 01:36
Yeah, it's a crock of shit. Condoms almost never have holes in them and very seldom fail. It sounds like your school is using one of those crazy "abstinance only" programs that the Christian right love so much.



Yes, those crazy methods that have a 100% STD/unwanted pregnancy prevention rate :rolleyes:
Neo Kervoskia
24-07-2005, 01:41
Yes, those crazy methods that have a 100% STD/unwanted pregnancy prevention rate :rolleyes:
Hmm, reality says that people will have sex regardless of whatever you tell them because people think with the little head.
MadsyIsland
24-07-2005, 01:51
haha u poor american ppl..here in australia we have pe but they spend awhile on sex education:) they talk bout it and we have tests on it which l think is kinda lame..but l think sex ed should be canned..its of no use..why would kids wanna wait till they are married..thats kinda lame dont u think
l think condoms are good aslong as u have the right size cause then there could be problems..
Comedy Option
24-07-2005, 01:54
Yes, those crazy methods that have a 100% STD/unwanted pregnancy prevention rate :rolleyes:
I'd choose sex over chronic masturbation any day of the week.
Neo Rogolia
24-07-2005, 01:55
Ok kiddies, since it seems that none of you can trust school sex ed (trust me, none of us can. they taught us that you can get hiv/aids through sweat and spit whereas there are no recorded cases of that happening.) you should browse around here: http://plannedparenthood.org/pp2/portal/medicalinfo/teensexualhealth/;jsessionid=A1722E1690DF735BC3344A57D4BB4E7F I picked the teen page since a majority of you appear to be teens, but look around the rest of the site too. Oh yea, all those who said that schools are controlled by the christian right are right.



Oh my goodness, did you just post the Planned Parenthood site as a citation for your views? You don't see the rest of us posting extremist sites lol.
Neo Rogolia
24-07-2005, 01:56
I'd choose sex over chronic masturbation any day of the week.

Or neither...
MadsyIsland
24-07-2005, 01:57
I live in England and the sex ed. here is pretty good and impartial, the only exception was when we had an incompetant Australian as our P.S.H.E teacher (I was twelve at the time). As a homework one time he told us to write a lesson plan for what pupils should be taught about sex at 5, 10, 12, 15 and 18 years old. I asked how we were supposed to know what should only be taught to 18 year olds as we were only 12 but he evaded the question.

One year later he left the school very quietly, without even an announcement in assembly, and a year ago we spotted him working in a burger van :rolleyes: .

incompetent australian..watch it u lol..lm an australian here and our sex ed is alright..they say sex and penis and vagina and condom lol
Comedy Option
24-07-2005, 01:57
haha u poor american ppl..here in australia we have pe but they spend awhile on sex education:) they talk bout it and we have tests on it which l think is kinda lame..but l think sex ed should be canned..its of no use..why would kids wanna wait till they are married..thats kinda lame dont u think
l think condoms are good aslong as u have the right size cause then there could be problems..
Sex education has a use, and should not be canned sillybuns.

Mby if u Australians spnt m0re moneys on English insted ... of. sex ed..?
Comedy Option
24-07-2005, 01:58
Or neither...
No sex, really.

(Or both ;))
MadsyIsland
24-07-2005, 01:58
Sex education has a use, and should not be canned sillybuns.

Mby if u Australians spnt m0re moneys on English insted ... of. sex ed..?

haha our english is better then anyones:) so our sex ed is better then lil old ladies and men who dont know shit lol
Comedy Option
24-07-2005, 01:59
haha our english is better then anyones:) so our sex ed is better then lil old ladies and men who dont know shit lol
You know this sentence contains errors? Laugh out loud, sir!

You're fired!

Edit: In our sex ed we get to put a condom on a banana, woho. But seriously, condoms are the way to go.
MadsyIsland
24-07-2005, 02:04
You know this sentence contains errors? Laugh out loud, sir!

You're fired!

Edit: In our sex ed we get to put a condom on a banana, woho. But seriously, condoms are the way to go.

everyone has to have errors:) its the rule lol
damn we never got to try putting condoms on bananas lol..the guys just got given condoms and us girls never got anything:( boo hoo
Comedy Option
24-07-2005, 02:06
everyone has to have errors:) its the rule lol
damn we never got to try putting condoms on bananas lol..the guys just got given condoms and us girls never got anything:( boo hoo
Do you actually laugh out loud when you write? That must be tiresome.

Why don't you just buy a banana and some condoms? Hours of fun guaranteed.
Warrigal
24-07-2005, 02:58
Sex-ed classes should have demonstration teams there to show everyone in class what is being talked about, in very graphic detail. ;)

Actually, I was kidding, but now, after reflecting on that a bit, I think it's a good idea. :D

What the hell is wrong with us North Americans, anyway? We glorify splattering people's heads with high-caliber weapons, but the moment two people want to share some intimate fun, it's all OMG EVOL!!!11!!!21!!!

Geez. :rolleyes:

Sex education should be exactly that: education about sex, what it is, what's involved both physically, biologically, and emotionally, and its benefits and repercussions. No agendas, just accurate and useful information.

And I'll never forget this exchange, from one of my own high-school sex-ed classes:

Teacher: Can anyone tell me what 'testicles' are?

Class: (...long, uncomfortable silence...)

Teacher: (exasperated) THEY'RE YOUR BALLS, STUPID!I loved that class. :D
Warrigal
24-07-2005, 03:00
Do you actually laugh out loud when you write? That must be tiresome.

Why don't you just buy a banana and some condoms? Hours of fun guaranteed.

I dunno... can the banana be considered to be 'consenting'? :eek:
[NS]Ihatevacations
24-07-2005, 03:10
Oh my goodness, did you just post the Planned Parenthood site as a citation for your views? You don't see the rest of us posting extremist sites lol.
god forbid some one provid links to pertinent facts..
Eris Illuminated
24-07-2005, 21:56
Oh my goodness, did you just post the Planned Parenthood site as a citation for your views? You don't see the rest of us posting extremist sites lol.

I haven't seen anyone, including the poster you responded to, posting "extremist" sites . . .
Randomlittleisland
24-07-2005, 23:32
incompetent australian..watch it u lol..lm an australian here and our sex ed is alright..they say sex and penis and vagina and condom lol

I hereby apologise to all competant Australians who aren't ex-teachers working in English burger vans. :)