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The Year 2012

Homieville
23-07-2005, 13:29
The Year 2012 is looking up to be a bad year this is why.

The date December 21st, 2012 A.D. (13.0.0.0.0 in the Long Count), represents an extremely close conjunction of the
Winter Solstice Sun with the crossing point of the Galactic Equator (Equator of the Milky Way) and the Ecliptic
(path of the Sun), what that ancient Maya recognized as the Sacred Tree. This is an event that has been coming to
resonance very slowly over thousands and thousands of years. It will come to resolution at exactly 11:11 am GMT.


The sky on December 21st, 2012 A.D.
showing a rare astronomical alignment -
the winter solstice sun is right in the
"dark rift" in the Milky Way.
www.greatdreams.com/2012

The morning on December 21 2012 will be a hot one and the sun will be very close to the Earth!

I dont believe in this but whats everyones comment?
Bolol
23-07-2005, 13:32
The Year 2012 is looking up to be a bad year this is why.

The date December 21st, 2012 A.D. (13.0.0.0.0 in the Long Count), represents an extremely close conjunction of the
Winter Solstice Sun with the crossing point of the Galactic Equator (Equator of the Milky Way) and the Ecliptic
(path of the Sun), what that ancient Maya recognized as the Sacred Tree. This is an event that has been coming to
resonance very slowly over thousands and thousands of years. It will come to resolution at exactly 11:11 am GMT.


The sky on December 21st, 2012 A.D.
showing a rare astronomical alignment -
the winter solstice sun is right in the
"dark rift" in the Milky Way.
www.greatdreams.com/2012

The morning on December 21 2012 will be a hot one and the sun will be very close to the Earth!

I dont believe in this but whats everyones comment?

We've heard all kinds of Armageddon dates from numerous religions (even Scientology :P). Mayans...Aztecs...Hindus...All of em!

My theory? 1 year from now...June 6, 2006. 666...check that shit out!
[NS]Bluestrips2
23-07-2005, 13:40
2006 is my guess ( if it were true ) - USA are planning to split the atom faster than ever before who knows what is going to happen :eek:
Homieville
23-07-2005, 13:40
Whats going to happen on 666?
QuentinTarantino
23-07-2005, 13:42
The Year 2012 is looking up to be a bad year this is why.

The date December 21st, 2012 A.D. (13.0.0.0.0 in the Long Count), represents an extremely close conjunction of the
Winter Solstice Sun with the crossing point of the Galactic Equator (Equator of the Milky Way) and the Ecliptic
(path of the Sun), what that ancient Maya recognized as the Sacred Tree. This is an event that has been coming to
resonance very slowly over thousands and thousands of years. It will come to resolution at exactly 11:11 am GMT.


The sky on December 21st, 2012 A.D.
showing a rare astronomical alignment -
the winter solstice sun is right in the
"dark rift" in the Milky Way.
www.greatdreams.com/2012

The morning on December 21 2012 will be a hot one and the sun will be very close to the Earth!

I dont believe in this but whats everyones comment?

Can you please translate that into english please
Markreich
23-07-2005, 13:47
We've heard all kinds of Armageddon dates from numerous religions (even Scientology :P). Mayans...Aztecs...Hindus...All of em!

My theory? 1 year from now...June 6, 2006. 666...check that shit out!

Nah. The world didn't end on 6.6.666 nor on 6.6.1666....
Kelleda
23-07-2005, 13:47
Whats going to happen on 666?

The Devil will start a wildly popular classic rock band, of course.

I kid, I kid. It's actually going to be a swing band.
Bolol
23-07-2005, 13:48
Whats going to happen on 666?

The Day of the Beast my friend! We all gonna die!!!

Or at least half of us, the half that "accends" into Heaven. The other half goes down to Hell where we're treated to a kickass BBQ!
Sdaeriji
23-07-2005, 13:51
And the meek shall inherit the earth

We’ve taken care of everything
The words you hear the songs you sing
The pictures that give pleasure to your eyes
It’s one for all and all for one
We work together common sons
Never need to wonder how or why

:D
Nova Gubelin
23-07-2005, 14:04
I heard something about that. Apparently, there's going to be something called the 'Procession of the Equinox', where magnetic north is going to switch from Polaris to Vega, causing earthquakes and EMPs worldwide( :( ). But also, its supposed to be the start of the Age of Aquarius( :) ).
Nimzonia
23-07-2005, 14:09
The Year 2012 is looking up to be a bad year this is why.

The date December 21st, 2012 A.D. (13.0.0.0.0 in the Long Count), represents an extremely close conjunction of the
Winter Solstice Sun with the crossing point of the Galactic Equator (Equator of the Milky Way) and the Ecliptic
(path of the Sun), what that ancient Maya recognized as the Sacred Tree. This is an event that has been coming to
resonance very slowly over thousands and thousands of years. It will come to resolution at exactly 11:11 am GMT.


The sky on December 21st, 2012 A.D.
showing a rare astronomical alignment -
the winter solstice sun is right in the
"dark rift" in the Milky Way.
www.greatdreams.com/2012

The morning on December 21 2012 will be a hot one and the sun will be very close to the Earth!

I dont believe in this but whats everyones comment?


Yawn. Robot Cheney will destroy us all before then anyway.
Undelia
23-07-2005, 14:26
Well, if its unavoidable, what’s the point in worrying about it? Seriously, I don’t give this much credit, but still, stressing about it isn’t going to keep the sun away.
Takuma
23-07-2005, 14:35
And the meek shall inherit the earth

We’ve taken care of everything
The words you hear the songs you sing
The pictures that give pleasure to your eyes
It’s one for all and all for one
We work together common sons
Never need to wonder how or why

:D
Sorry, man. 100 years off. :D
Czardas
23-07-2005, 14:43
Wrong. The world will end in a week, as soon as George comes with all those nuclear weapons (darn him! Is Andromeda really so far? Apparently so!) to blow up the planet Earth and destroy all life on it.
Tagmatium
23-07-2005, 14:49
You know, the whole 666 is apparently a mis-translation from the Greek the bible was written in. The actual "number of the beast" is different.

Anyway, think of it like this: at least in 2012 you won't have to by anyone Christmas presents, cos the world will end in 21st of December.
ArabWeddingParties
23-07-2005, 14:51
The Year 2012 is looking up to be a bad year this is why.

The date December 21st, 2012 A.D. (13.0.0.0.0 in the Long Count), represents an extremely close conjunction of the
Winter Solstice Sun with the crossing point of the Galactic Equator (Equator of the Milky Way) and the Ecliptic
(path of the Sun), what that ancient Maya recognized as the Sacred Tree. This is an event that has been coming to
resonance very slowly over thousands and thousands of years. It will come to resolution at exactly 11:11 am GMT.


The sky on December 21st, 2012 A.D.
showing a rare astronomical alignment -
the winter solstice sun is right in the
"dark rift" in the Milky Way.
www.greatdreams.com/2012

The morning on December 21 2012 will be a hot one and the sun will be very close to the Earth!

I dont believe in this but whats everyones comment?

What's not to believe? The motion of the galaxy and our position within it is fairly straightforward. As it happens, the Mayans were great astronomers and mathemeticians. They figured out procession (the fact that the Earth wobbles on its axis) and that the constellations change over time.

What effect will all this have on us? I'm going with... none. Even if the Earth is close to the sun on that particular day, so what? That marginal shift will not alter temperatures in any significant way.

A much larger effect is the tilt of the Earth with respect to the incoming radiation from the sun. The obvious example is summer and winter. In the northern hemisphere we are farther away from the sun during summer and closer during winter, but summer is warmer because we are titled (at 23.5 degrees with respect to the solar plane) towards the sun.

Since December 12, 2012 is in the winter, no worries.
Undelia
23-07-2005, 14:54
You know, the whole 666 is apparently a mis-translation from the Greek the bible was written in. The actual "number of the beast" is different.

Anyway, think of it like this: at least in 2012 you won't have to by anyone Christmas presents, cos the world will end in 21st of December.
But then you don’t get any Christmas presents either…
Tagmatium
23-07-2005, 14:56
But, if the word ends, I'll be dead. Or I have a really crappy Christmas.
Ashmoria
23-07-2005, 14:58
the last time there was some bigass alignment of the planets (a few years back but not too many) nothing happened. turned out to be more of an optical illusion than anything else.

im betting my life on the same result on this one.
Papertrays
23-07-2005, 15:08
I don't care if we all die because I won't have to buy loads of christmas presents
:sniper: :mp5:
Robot ninja pirates
23-07-2005, 15:17
The morning on December 21 2012 will be a hot one and the sun will be very close to the Earth!
Nope. The sun comes closest to the earth on the winter solstice every year, yet it's still cold up here. Distance from the sun doesn't affect temperature, as the fluctuation is so small.

December 21, 2012 will be a brisk and chilly winter day.

The Mayans don't actually say that the world will end on that day. They say that something big is going to happen, what is going to happen isn't specifically said.

Lots of civilizations have predicted the end of the world, but this one gets a lot of attention because it's a specific date which is very close.
Iztatepopotla
23-07-2005, 16:44
The Mayans don't actually say that the world will end on that day. They say that something big is going to happen, what is going to happen isn't specifically said.
Yeah, a big honking party is what it is. The Mayans didn't actually predict anything. Their calendar count simply starts again that day, like when we went from 1999 to 2000.

Even if we are to cross the Galactic Equator, there's nothing special about that region of space, there's no "rift" (although we are in a sparsely populated region of space on the edge of one arm), and if there were, it would be a few light years wide, we would certainly be passing through it now.

Nothing will happen, enjoy your Christmas.
Europastan
23-07-2005, 16:51
2012 will be a great year in Britain. Not only do we have the Olympics, but it is also HM The Queen's Diamond Jubilee :D
Homieville
23-07-2005, 17:02
Well to bad I didnt make a poll but anyways the Jewish Calender ends 70 years after 2012 and the NASA facts say that there will be alot of danger in Ireland ONLY. and 9/10 of the population in Ireland will be gone.

666 thing is just stupid.Nothing to believe there or in 2012
Homieville
23-07-2005, 17:04
I also remember that the world was gunna end going into 2000 year and nothing happened and 2 years ago on August 15th A comet was heading for earth nothing happened!
Floreat Major
23-07-2005, 17:11
Well, we'll always have the olympics to remember.
Olantia
23-07-2005, 17:20
2012 will be a great year in Britain. Not only do we have the Olympics, but it is also HM The Queen's Diamond Jubilee :D
Long may she reign! :) And here in Russia the successor of Putin will be standing for re-election in 2012...
Megaloria
23-07-2005, 17:26
As long as a few of my personal demands are met beforehand, the universe can get buggered for all I care.
Markreich
23-07-2005, 17:59
Long may she reign! :) And here in Russia the successor of Putin will be standing for re-election in 2012...

True! My bet is on... Vladimir Putin!! :D

Wait... that should be :(

2012 is also the "make it or break it" election for the Democrats in the US. If they don't win in 2008 or 2012, the entire Supreme Court will likely have been named my a Republican President. (The odds of an 83 year old Ruth Bader Ginsburg or a 78 year old Stephen Gerald Breyer serving into 2016 are seemingly low. Even so, that'd just be to MAINTAIN a 7-2 minority...)
Olantia
23-07-2005, 18:13
True! My bet is on... Vladimir Putin!! :D

Wait... that should be :(
I think Putin is going to step down and it will be Vladislav Surkov... we'll see.

2012 is also the "make it or break it" election for the Democrats in the US. If they don't win in 2008 or 2012, the entire Supreme Court will likely have been named my a Republican President. (The odds of an 83 year old Ruth Bader Ginsburg or a 78 year old Stephen Gerald Breyer serving into 2016 are seemingly low. Even so, that'd just be to MAINTAIN a 7-2 minority...)
Ah, the US President will also be up for re-election in November 2012! Mrs Clinton, probably? ;)
Markreich
24-07-2005, 11:17
I think Putin is going to step down and it will be Vladislav Surkov... we'll see.


Ah, the US President will also be up for re-election in November 2012! Mrs Clinton, probably? ;)

Ayep...

Maybe. Mr. Bush must leave the White House on 20 January 2009, when his successor is sworn in. As to who will win in 2008, and if they'll be re-elected in 2012 is an unknown.

Personally, I don't think that she is electable... she's far too polarizing of a choice, and isn't even very popular within the Democratic Party (Dean's people and Kennedy's people both generally dislike her, nevermind Kerry's supporters). She could win NYC and other large (liberally leaning) cities easily. But in the suburbs? Who knows.
I'd like to see Edwards take another swing at it.
E Blackadder
24-07-2005, 11:22
We've heard all kinds of Armageddon dates from numerous religions (even Scientology :P). Mayans...Aztecs...Hindus...All of em!

My theory? 1 year from now...June 6, 2006. 666...check that shit out!

I hope not..that will rather slow down my D-Day celebrations.
Kradlumania
24-07-2005, 11:27
I'm not sure the "ancient" Mayans foretold anything happening when their calendar rolled over - it's the nature of calendars to roll over in some way. If they did make any prophesies, I wouldn't rely on a prophesy forecasting the end of the world in 2012 when those making the prophesy failed to foresee the end of their own civilisation some 600 years prior to that.
Daistallia 2104
24-07-2005, 11:37
Well, the end of the world could happen anytime between this October and ca. 4,500,000,000 AD, if any of these predictions (http://www.abhota.info/end6.htm) are accurate.
Panhandlia
24-07-2005, 11:51
Whats going to happen on 666?
N'Stync will get back together...it's evil incarnate.
Panhandlia
24-07-2005, 11:52
Well, the end of the world could happen anytime between this October and ca. 4,500,000,000 AD, if any of these predictions (http://www.abhota.info/end6.htm) are accurate.
So it could happen...or not.
El Porro
24-07-2005, 13:02
The number of the beast is actually 661. I read that in the Guardian a few weeks ago. Some counting gone wrong somewhere along the line. The bible is so messed up and contradictory they can't even get their numbers right..
Homieville
24-07-2005, 13:43
So it could happen...or not.

There is no reason why in October there should be the end of the world 2012 theory theres nothing to believe in its just something to talk about so the World doesnt get bored
Successoria
24-07-2005, 14:22
Ahhh the human ability to think that everything focuses on this pretty blue-green ball of rock travelling thruogu the universe. Its really quite cute actually. The greatest evoultion man will encounter is when people can enjoy existance without themselves bieng the pinnacle of existance.
Translation: No man-made calendar can predict cosmic events. No mathmatition can possibly account for the billions of variables in the cosmos that would have any effect on thwe Earth, and more specifically, people. Humannus is not destined to die out, but it is destined to evolve. Follow the logical progression of any species and natural laws still apply.
As for "holy texts" predicting armageddon, put yourself in the writers shoes for just a sec. Even if GOD him/her/itself sat on the couch next to you and told you to dictate notes, how much of what was said could you understand and write down? But wait, you dont actually write the stuff down, you have someone else dictate for you as you havent learned to write or read. Add the fact that you had to wait months or years before you found someone willing to write this stuff down, (from your memory) and write it in a way that couldnt be traced back to then or they would be killed.
While calendars may be fairly good at predicting crop seasons, and general timekeeping, there are no uniform standards that are directly linked to human existance. The chinese have one calendar, romans had another, messopotamians, mayans, all have different calendars based on the needs of the times. Mayans werent concerned with using a calendar to predict armageddon, the just wanted to know when to plant and harvest.
If a person chooses to sit up late at night worrying about when some mythical event ending the world is going to happen, then fine please do so. At lease this will give validity to some soothsayers wasted exsistence as his job was to spread fear in order to convert people to the religion of the day. Please spend all of your cash, buy yer little survival kits, skip the holidays then crawl into a little hole and wait. That will leave so much more room for me when I go on vacation.

Sagir, Emperor of Successoria
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If one looks for negativity, they are certain to find it. The same cannot be said for the missing sock in a pair.
Successoria
24-07-2005, 14:24
Sorry bout the spelling on the above post....gonna fire my transcriptionist. :D :sniper:
Successoria
24-07-2005, 14:24
Sorry bout the spelling on the above post....gonna fire my transcriptionist. :D :sniper:
Cruso
24-07-2005, 14:42
*applauds successoria* Best post ever!

Just to make my own little contribution to this post (2012 is the date everyone's been saying, so um, eat this up).

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread50601/pg1

If you have the patience to read enough, you'll see that Jesus has a little over 5 months to make himself known. Then the whole theory will be disproved. If this guy made it up, he actually put a lot of effort into this, but why wouldn't he leave out the 2005 bit and just leave it at 2012 to keep creditability until then? Could have picked a more likely situation to predict other than Jesus appearing... but we'll see I guess. In 5 months we'll all know whether it'll happen or not.