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I was walking through fye the other day, looking for a copy of Blizzard of Ozz, and what I heard playing on the radio shall haunt me for the rest of my life. At first, I thought I was hearing the classic hit "Crazy Train", in my opinion the single greatest rock song of all time. However, the main riff was played on synthesizer, not guitar, and pitched two octaves too high. Then, and this is what absolutely kills me, I heard some asshole talking over the song. When I looked around, and saw nobody in the store speking loudly enough to drown out the song, I realized: "Somebody must be sampling the song and rapping over it." I swear to God, when that thought hit me, I just about started crying. If I ever discover whoever ruined the heavy metal anthem, I will create a hit list specifically for them. If there are any metal fans out there who can assist in my crusade, please do so.

Rap should never sample from heavy metal. Ever. Period. Especially not Blizzard-era Ozzy.

If people like rap its fine. But if they call it music, then...well..... :gundge:

Rap should never sample from heavy metal. Ever.


Pity that you're only about twenty years too late to impart that pearl of wisdom to Run DMC.

Dude, how old are you guys?
Put some Ozzy on your IPods, and crank up the volume when any of this newfangled music intrudes.
Either that, or change with the times.
Whatever

Well Rock has died over time... little chucks have been taken away... like all of the deaths, breakups, rap covers... even today i heard like Lil' John covering a u2 song?

I was walking through fye the other day, looking for a copy of Blizzard of Ozz, and what I heard playing on the radio shall haunt me for the rest of my life. At first, I thought I was hearing the classic hit "Crazy Train", in my opinion the single greatest rock song of all time. However, the main riff was played on synthesizer, not guitar, and pitched two octaves too high. Then, and this is what absolutely kills me, I heard some asshole talking over the song. When I looked around, and saw nobody in the store speking loudly enough to drown out the song, I realized: "Somebody must be sampling the song and rapping over it." I swear to God, when that thought hit me, I just about started crying. If I ever discover whoever ruined the heavy metal anthem, I will create a hit list specifically for them. If there are any metal fans out there who can assist in my crusade, please do so.

Rap should never sample from heavy metal. Ever. Period. Especially not Blizzard-era Ozzy.


DINOSAUR!

You're about 20 years to late. Music began changing that way with the advent of the Sampler. Either get over it or don't listen to it. Those are your choices, because its NOT going away.

Bah, I thought this thread was about some invention that would feed music right into your brain cortex. But no, just another old guy complaining that things were better when they were kids.

(Not that they weren't, they were, it's the complaining that's annoying :D )

DINOSAUR!

You're about 20 years to late. Music began changing that way with the advent of the Sampler. Either get over it or don't listen to it. Those are your choices, because its NOT going away.Word.
Download some M.I.A.
It'll change your life. Some Sri Lankan chick and a sampler. That's it. Pure music.

Pity that you're only about twenty years too late to impart that pearl of wisdom to Run DMC.

You what? The collaboration with Aerosmith was just that. No sampling, just a damn good record.

Hey, don't get me wrong. I've known for a long time that rap was consuming and destroying all decent music. Hell, I even managed to forgive Run DMC, Vanilla Ice, Et Al for ruining decent lassic rock songs. It's just... I don't know. For some reason, I thought Crazy Train would be immue to the disease. I never thought any of those rappers would ever have the high level of musical taste to recognize the greatness of the heavy metal.

I apologize. I'm grieving. It's a process.

Hey, don't get me wrong. I've known for a long time that rap was consuming and destroying all decent music. Hell, I even managed to forgive Run DMC, Vanilla Ice, Et Al for ruining decent lassic rock songs. It's just... I don't know. For some reason, I thought Crazy Train would be immue to the disease. I never thought any of those rappers would ever have the high level of musical taste to recognize the greatness of the heavy metal.

I apologize. I'm grieving. It's a process.Crazy Train didn't die. It had a biracial kid. Be happy.
:)

It's all noise today.

You what? The collaboration with Aerosmith was just that. No sampling, just a damn good record.

Yup: my comments were not intended to be taken as a condemnation of the track. The reverse in fact. I was also aware that it wasn't actually samples used on the track, but making a posting saying "About twenty years too late to impart that pearl of wisdom to Public Enemy following their sampling of Slayer on the track 'She Watch Channel Zero'" just seemed far too obscure a reference to make to someone who is already biased against rap.

Crazy Train didn't die. It had a biracial kid. Be happy.
:)

Black kids reclaiming the bastard son of the blues for their own. Dear Lord, whatever next?

Dude, how old are you guys?
Put some Ozzy on your IPods, and crank up the volume when any of this newfangled music intrudes.
Either that, or change with the times.
Whatever

Ditto. Listen to what you enjoy & move on.

I like Crazy Train, specially the dance mix.

It's all noise today.
Hey, what's wrong with noise?

*puts on some Masonna and bleeds from eardrums*

That man is not old, Crazy Train should not be remixed into a rap song, and rock did not die. Rap has just gotten shitty *cough* 50 Cent *cough* G-Unit.

That is sacrelige to a metal classic. May that record store be struck by a meteorite.

The end of music as we know it is upon us.

I believe that sentiment has been uttered by every generation since music was invented.

I believe that sentiment has been uttered by every generation since music was invented.

I remember my dad telling me about a particularly funny story about that sentiment when they first saw Husker Du on the TV.

I was walking through fye the other day, looking for a copy of Blizzard of Ozz, and what I heard playing on the radio shall haunt me for the rest of my life. At first, I thought I was hearing the classic hit "Crazy Train", in my opinion the single greatest rock song of all time. However, the main riff was played on synthesizer, not guitar, and pitched two octaves too high. Then, and this is what absolutely kills me, I heard some asshole talking over the song. When I looked around, and saw nobody in the store speking loudly enough to drown out the song, I realized: "Somebody must be sampling the song and rapping over it." I swear to God, when that thought hit me, I just about started crying. If I ever discover whoever ruined the heavy metal anthem, I will create a hit list specifically for them. If there are any metal fans out there who can assist in my crusade, please do so.

Rap should never sample from heavy metal. Ever. Period. Especially not Blizzard-era Ozzy.
The statements you have made above have just made you my friend...even if you do not wish to be. I utterly hate whoever ruined such a great song.

Now I must cry in the corner.

The statements you have made above have just made you my friend...even if you do not wish to be. I utterly hate whoever ruined such a great song.

Now I must cry in the corner.


I am going to have to ditto that statement here...

Which is why I am going to Ozzfest to hear it played right ;)

My DINOSAUR comment aside, I DO love Crazy Train by Ozzy, so I can see where you're feeling miffed. My point is more that you can't do much about it. That weak-ass new track by Missy Elliot samples an electro classic (Jive, by Double-Deuce) and it irritates the hell out of me when I hear the mangling it received @ the hands of Timbaland or whoever the fuck ripped it off. But I really can't do anything about it except be miltitantly Anti-Sample when making my own music (which happens to be mostly dark, melodic type electro and techno for those that give a shit)

When an over used sample, or annoyingly used sample gets on my nerves, I just block it out and go listen to the orginal song its entirety so I can appreciate it in it full glory. A lot of times, when a group samples a great old tune, sales of that tune go up as a new genration gets exposed to it, even though as a small chunk initially.

UGH. I accidentally downloaded this version of Crazy Train... I'm still not over it.

*shudder*

I under 20 and I even think this new music is crap, I stick to 50s, 60s, and 70s.

Suck it up. Your not in high school being the only person in a school of 3,900 who's heard of Rammstein. I can't even go out into lunch without hearing the crap.

Friend: *turns on radio* What kinda music you listen to?
Me: NOT THIS SHIT! *destroys radio*

Suck it up. Your not in high school being the only person in a school of 3,900 who's heard of Rammstein. I can't even go out into lunch without hearing the crap.

Friend: *turns on radio* What kinda music you listen to?
Me: NOT THIS SHIT! *destroys radio*
Rap:
Yo dawg, I be something something cap in yo ass
Pimp mo'fo
Pop:
*too god damned electronic to comprehend*

I must admit two of my favourite bands could be accused of being rap/metal...

*ducks behind boulder*

Rap:
Yo dawg, I be something something cap in yo ass
Pimp mo'fo
Pop:
*too god damned electronic to comprehend*
And it's getting sadder that only black people seem to be talking like that.

Even sadder, some one them speak it as their "second language" and only use it with other blacks.

Girl: *to me* Oh yeah. So I'll see you Kevin. Bye!
Me: Bye.
Girl: *to friend* OKAY LETOYA! LET'S GO HIT IT UP GURL! AL-RIGHT!

Actual conversation too. Left me and another girl really dazed.

I am going to have to ditto that statement here...

Which is why I am going to Ozzfest to hear it played right ;)

I thought he was with Black Sabbath this year? He doesnt sing his solo music when hes with Black Sabbath, he just sings songs from the first 6 Sabbath albums.

Do you remember Hullabaloo, Up-Beat, Shindig, and Ed Sullivan too?

And it's getting sadder that only black people seem to be talking like that.

Even sadder, some one them speak it as their "second language" and only use it with other blacks.

Girl: *to me* Oh yeah. So I'll see you Kevin. Bye!
Me: Bye.
Girl: *to friend* OKAY LETOYA! LET'S GO HIT IT UP GURL! AL-RIGHT!

Actual conversation too. Left me and another girl really dazed.


I am quite happy to be a cultural oreo.

I do not understand any of that which you just quoted, even though I am a black 21 year old woman who grew up in the ghetto.

*joy*

If there are any metal fans out there who can assist in my crusade, please do so.

Rap should never sample from heavy metal. Ever. Period. Especially not Blizzard-era Ozzy.

i'll help you, tell me when, where and i'm there beside you with a bat in my hand and rock in my heart.

I am quite happy to be a cultural oreo.

I do not understand any of that which you just quoted, even though I am a black 21 year old woman who grew up in the ghetto.

*joy*
Considering this game from a girl who grew up in SUBURBS.....

l|= '/0|_| (@|\| |23@|) +|-|l$, '/0|_| |23@11'/, |23@11'/, |23@11'/, |23@11'/ |\|33|) +0 63+ 1@l|).

AGH! what is it!?

"If you can read this, you really, really, really, really need to..."AGH!!!!!! help me out here! *calls out loudly, "CZARDAS!?"*

EDIT: ohhhh, ..."get laid" hahaha SHADDUP!! :D

So listen to something extreme enough that it hasn't been stolen yet, like say, Dark Funeral or Mayhem.

Carlinator
I was walking through fye the other day

If you buy music in a mall your opinion is already worthless.

Collegiates
If people like rap its fine. But if they call it music, then...well.....

You also have no knowledge to speak about music.

Carlinator
I thought Crazy Train would be immue to the disease.

Yeah, you know, cuz, like, rock on the radio is totally, like, underground and they aren't in it for the money, right?

I never thought any of those rappers would ever have the high level of musical taste to recognize the greatness of the heavy metal.

High level of musical taste? "Heavy metal" is just pop. ABABCB. The exact same crap but with distortion and they pander to a different crowd.

Voxio
I utterly hate whoever ruined such a great song.

Who do you think sold the copyright to be sampled? It wasn't the rapper.

Ferdun
I am going to have to ditto that statement here...
Which is why I am going to Ozzfest to hear it played right

So...you hate it enough to go give even more money to him? Bravo.
No, really, you totally understand how music works. I'm proud of you.

Colodia
Your not in high school being the only person in a school of 3,900 who's heard of Rammstein
Friend: *turns on radio* What kinda music you listen to?
Me: NOT THIS SHIT! *destroys radio*

You realize rammstein was on the radio, right? And all over mtv.
Have you heard of this really underground band called Primus, too? WHOA!

Colodia
And it's getting sadder that only black people seem to be talking like that.
Even sadder, some one them speak it as their "second language" and only use it with other blacks.
Girl: *to me* Oh yeah. So I'll see you Kevin. Bye!
Me: Bye.
Girl: *to friend* OKAY LETOYA! LET'S GO HIT IT UP GURL! AL-RIGHT!
Actual conversation too. Left me and another girl really dazed.

wtf. Because she said 'hit it up'?? Don't you use slang when you talk to your other klansmen?

Meiwaku
I do not understand any of that which you just quoted, even though I am a black 21 year old woman who grew up in the ghetto.
*joy*

...just wow. "OKAY LETOYA! LET'S GO HIT IT UP GURL! AL-RIGHT!" -->"let's go to wherever we were planning to go! yeah!"
It's not that f'ing hard people.
I always heard schools were bad in ghettos (which I seriously doubt you grew up in) but to not teach comprehension and reasoning skills is pretty sad.
I feel sorry for you.

Colodia
And it's getting sadder that only black people seem to be talking like that.
Even sadder, some one them speak it as their "second language" and only use it with other blacks.
Girl: *to me* Oh yeah. So I'll see you Kevin. Bye!
Me: Bye.
Girl: *to friend* OKAY LETOYA! LET'S GO HIT IT UP GURL! AL-RIGHT!
Actual conversation too. Left me and another girl really dazed.

wtf. Because she said 'hit it up'?? Don't you use slang when you talk to your other klansmen?

Meiwaku
I do not understand any of that which you just quoted, even though I am a black 21 year old woman who grew up in the ghetto.
*joy*

...just wow. "OKAY LETOYA! LET'S GO HIT IT UP GURL! AL-RIGHT!" -->"let's go to wherever we were planning to go! yeah!"
It's not that f'ing hard people.
I always heard schools were bad in ghettos (which I seriously doubt you grew up in) but to not teach comprehension and reasoning skills is pretty sad.
I feel sorry for you. Thank you. :)
I was disgusted by that, but in a rush, and didn't have time to properly address these comments. I came back to do it, only to find that someone else has done a better job than I could have. I agree with most of what you said, but this especially.
"Don't you use slang when you talk to your other klansmen?"
:eek: Ah-BURN!!!

On a slightly related note, I picked up Blackstar today. Good stuff if you're a fan of music and can tell the difference between real, good hip hop and mainstream rubbish.

I remember seeing Public Enemy and Anthrax touring together about 15 years ago. I guess Anthrax don't have a problem with rap music.

On a slightly related note, I picked up Blackstar today. Good stuff if you're a fan of music and can tell the difference between real, good hip hop and mainstream rubbish.Swish!!!
I'm insanely jealous...
I don't buy music, and that stuff is hard to find good downloads of...

Swish!!!
I'm insanely jealous...
I don't buy music, and that stuff is hard to find good downloads of...

I had to go to four stores to actually find it. I was furious, but now I own it, so life is good.

I could theoretically burn you a copy....

I had to go to four stores to actually find it. I was furious, but now I own it, so life is good.

I could theoretically burn you a copy....mmmmm
Sexual favours in exchange for that CD, word.
lol
or you could gmail me the music.....?
:fluffle:
I'd be your best friend.
Like, I'd help you move a body.

Sampling other artists music indicates a serious lack of creativity on the samplers part. C'mon, if you can't come up with you own music, then form a cover band, don't pretend to be a serious, original artist.


And don't blaspheme Ozzy for Hells sake!

mmmmm
Sexual favours in exchange for that CD, word.
lol
or you could gmail me the music.....?
:fluffle:
I'd be your best friend.
Like, I'd help you move a body.

We can discuss terms. ;) You have a telegram.

I was walking through fye the other day, looking for a copy of Blizzard of Ozz, and what I heard playing on the radio shall haunt me for the rest of my life. At first, I thought I was hearing the classic hit "Crazy Train", in my opinion the single greatest rock song of all time. However, the main riff was played on synthesizer, not guitar, and pitched two octaves too high. Then, and this is what absolutely kills me, I heard some asshole talking over the song. When I looked around, and saw nobody in the store speking loudly enough to drown out the song, I realized: "Somebody must be sampling the song and rapping over it." I swear to God, when that thought hit me, I just about started crying. If I ever discover whoever ruined the heavy metal anthem, I will create a hit list specifically for them. If there are any metal fans out there who can assist in my crusade, please do so.

Rap should never sample from heavy metal. Ever. Period. Especially not Blizzard-era Ozzy.

And here I was thinking you were among those that were freaking out over the latest DRM punishment being forced upon America.

In any case, I agree - I view rap as poetry, and while sampling can enhance it if done right, not many people ever do.

Doesn't weigh on my view of Ozzy at all, but still.

DINOSAUR!

You're about 20 years to late. Music began changing that way with the advent of the Sampler. Either get over it or don't listen to it. Those are your choices, because its NOT going away.


Thats what they used to say about disco.