NationStates Jolt Archive

Pros: Saves energy (considering high oil and gas prices and so on)

Cons: Can screw up both Canadian and American economies (that's if the provinces didn't adopt the Daylight Saving Time extension soon)

Good idea or bad idea.

Cons: Can screw up both Canadian and American economies.

How?

For every US location?

Daylight Saving Time, for the U.S. and its territories, is NOT observed in Hawaii, American Samoa, Guam, Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands, most of the Eastern Time Zone portion of the State of Indiana, and the state of Arizona (not the Navajo Indian Reservation, which does observe). Navajo Nation participates in the Daylight Saving Time policy, due to its large size and location in three states.

How?

magic

How?

According to CBC:

Provinces grapple with U.S. daylight time decision
Last Updated Wed, 20 Jul 2005 21:51:09 EDT
CBC News

Provincial governments across Canada face a big-time decision as they deal with an American move to extend daylight time by two months, so that it starts on the first weekend in March and ends in November.

Ontario Premier Dalton McGuinty says his government will "seriously" consider its options after the U.S. Congress adopted the plan Tuesday, citing the need to save energy by cutting the need for artificial light in the evenings.

"We're not anxious to have a disconnect between us and our chief trading partner," McGuinty said Wednesday.

However, McGuinty said he would also want to know how any change would affect families, given that children and parents would be travelling to school and work in the dark more often if Canada follows the U.S. lead.

In Quebec, Premier Jean Charest's office told CBC News the province will consider how to gauge the impact of the American change on Quebec's business community.

Manitoba Premier Gary Doer is among those worried about being out of sync with U.S. clocks.

Doer's office told CBC News that Manitoba's transportation sector would be hurt if the province decides not to go along with the new U.S. system.

Doer is already suggesting the daylight time issue should be on the agenda at a premiers meeting this summer.

On Prince Edward Island, the deputy minister of energy said there are no plans at present to change the time there. But John McQuarrie added that the province is willing to look at anything to save energy costs and cut down on energy consumption.

Currently in Canada and the U.S., daylight time runs from April through October. The exception in Canada is Saskatchewan, which keeps its clocks the same throughout the year.

The American change, due to take effect this autumn if President George W. Bush signs it into law, could cause headaches for Canadians during March and November, the two months the two countries would be out of sync.

Business leaders in Canada are already speaking out about the need to give the idea close and careful attention.

"There is potential for huge confusion here, and we need to be vigilant, to look at the range of implications," Len Crispino, president and CEO of the Ontario Chamber of Commerce, told the Canadian Press in Toronto.

Crispino used the example of the "just in time" delivery system that sees parts delivered to car plants, a major element of the Ontario economy.

The last time the United States and Canada observed different winter time systems was during the 1974-75 oil crisis. The U.S. did not turn its clocks back at all that fall in an attempt to conserve energy.

As a result, airline schedules involving flights from south of the border were occasionally one hour off, television schedules were mixed up and business associates regularly missed each other's phone calls.

"Daylight Saving Time...is NOT observed in Hawaii..."

and it's fucking weird. the sun sets at like 7:30 pm in july. too early

According to CBC:

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"We're not anxious to have a disconnect between us and our chief trading partner,"
That's crap. The UK has a permanent "disconnect" with Europe due to being in a different time zone, and because of daylight savings.

i want to know why they don't just go all the way and make it so that people experience some actual sunlight in winter too. so you might have to leave for work or school while its still maybe a little dim; at least you'll get to see the sun for a bit after society is done wasting your time for the day.

I don't see how it's going to save that much energy...really...

I mean, sure, the lights won't be on as much during the evenings...but the ACs most certainly run so long as it's hot. In the middle of the summer (like about this time), it'd be nice if the sun went down around 4 in the after noon....

Better yet, I wouldn't really mind if the sun came up at 5pm when we're all getting off work so we don't have to use lights, then we can sleep during the "day" then the sun went back down around 5am-ish, before we got up...then we'd just need lights at work, and those places are going to have their lights on all day long no matter what the schedule is...

...and we'd all save money on air conditioning.

Why am I the only person who voted "yes"?

I so wish we could just pick one time and stay there. Playing these stupid psychological games with ourselves is such non-sense.

death to daylight savings time

Ihatevacations']death to daylight savings time

you don't like extra sunlight when people are actually awake and not stuck in school or work?

yay daylight savings time, death to standard time!

you don't like extra sunlight when people are actually awake and not stuck in school or work?
When I go to work for a short 2-7:30 shift and sweat in my car on the way to work, stop sweating once I get inside, and at 7:30 when I get off, start sweating immediately after going back outside, then yes, something is definitely wrong with daylight savings time.

And besides, what can you do when the sun is out that you can't do when it's not out? not a whole lot...

Why am I the only person who voted "yes"?

no ur not, 7 ppl including me voted yes.

SAVE ENERGY PEOPLE!!! UR WASTING OIL AND GAS!!! lol

Ihatevacations']death to daylight savings time

You mean Daylight Saving Time? ;)

Pros: Saves energy (considering high oil and gas prices and so on)

Cons: Can screw up both Canadian and American economies (that's if the provinces didn't adopt the Daylight Saving Time extension soon)

Good idea or bad idea.


We tried it during the oil crisis in the 1970s. It sucked in the winter.

You mean Daylight Saving Time? ;)
i mean s for you suck -_-

PS
Tom Cove, president of the Sporting Goods Manufacturing Association, says kids will play outside rather than watch TV.
Cove is full of shit

When I go to work for a short 2-7:30 shift and sweat in my car on the way to work, stop sweating once I get inside, and at 7:30 when I get off, start sweating immediately after going back outside, then yes, something is definitely wrong with daylight savings time.

sounds like your problem is with the weather, not the sunlight, to me.

And besides, what can you do when the sun is out that you can't do when it's not out? not a whole lot...

i believe the general term is "outdoor activities", and its a rather huge variety of things.

We tried it during the oil crisis in the 1970s. It sucked in the winter.

cause it was dark on the way to work and school rather than on the way home?

Ihatevacations']Cove is full of shit

you would prefer he said that "kids that were so inclined would have the option of playing outside more rather than watching tv"?

I heard it could save 100,000 barrels of oil per day... now I think that it would be good. I don't think it will screw up the economy either, in fact probably help it by reducing fuel prices by a bit.

Meh. Let's all move underground and then there will be just one time zone for the entire world.

Anyway, I have never understood how the economy is affected or people will get confused. Chicago and New York are in different time zones and the economy between them seems to be doing ok. And most people are at least smart enough to add or substract 1.

What's the problem?

But I still think my idea of moving underground is better.

Anyway, I have never understood how the economy is affected or people will get confused. Chicago and New York are in different time zones and the economy between them seems to be doing ok. And most people are at least smart enough to add or substract 1.

What's the problem?

well, the main problem is that all this complicated 'business' stuff is figured out by guys using an abacus.

All that extra sunlight, it'll fade the curtains.

I like the idea but its a logistical nightmare. This would be on the scale of the y2k bug except with far less warning. Sure, it wouldnt take much to update NTP and rdate servers to the correct time, but daylight savings calculations are hardwired into many devices (such as computer BIOSes and the BIOS on handheld devices). There are also many programs (specially custom built programs) which would have to be recoded to take the new time into account. This changeover would end up costing millions. The idea is nice but current technology makes it a very costly move and one that simply isnt worth it.

Wuh???? I can barely handle the existing daylight savings set-up!!! Just as soon as you get used to one they switch it all around. It really screws with a person's head, yah! Dadnabbit... I don't get any sleep as it is. :headbang: :(

I like the idea but its a logistical nightmare. This would be on the scale of the y2k bug except with far less warning. Sure, it wouldnt take much to update NTP and rdate servers to the correct time, but daylight savings calculations are hardwired into many devices (such as computer BIOSes and the BIOS on handheld devices).

so that explains why indiana has never been able to keep up with the modern world...

so that explains why indiana has never been able to keep up with the modern world...

This coming from somebody claiming to be from Idaho....

This coming from somebody claiming to be from Idaho....

ah, but you see, i am from chicago. and idaho uses daylight savings time, while indiana only just agreed to join up, so making fun of idaho wouldn't exactly fit in.