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I've just got a new mp3 player, but I can only fill it up to 407Mb if it's 490Mb capacity (It advertised 512Mb, but that's beside the point).

Under Realplayer ( :mad: ) it says 'Unsupported Media Type', when filled over this 407Mb-ish limit. Under WMP it lists the files as 'Aborted', and My Computer/WinAmp gives up a 'Cannot create file' error.

It's got the latest firmware and drivers. Could firmware or the FAT be using up space, but leave it visible as free? I'll check it under Linux later, when my sister is off the other PC. For now, i'm totally clueless...

Weird. Since I don't use MP3 players, I don't know how to remedy this.

I dont really understand what you are trying to do. What have those programs got to do with the MP3 player?

I dont really understand what you are trying to do. What have those programs got to do with the MP3 player?

Copy music onto it, using their media library functions. It's slightly easier than dragging it off the hard disk, which doesn't work either.

If you would mention the make of the player and the kind of media it uses that would help a lot.

And, yes, depending on the formatting some space will be taken, but it's still too much to be only that.

Can you use Windows Explorer to take a look at the files in the player?

It's a Creative MuVo TX 512Mb player.

I can look at files, play them and whatnot, but I can't add stuff despite it having free space, regardless of the file type.

I have a Creative MuVoTX FM and I do get my full 256Mb of it (it's a USB device supported by Win 2000 and XP, ditto Win 98).

Mine supports MP3 and WMA. Now they are weird formats of MP3 and WMA which have variable sampling rates within the same file which MP3 players cannot handle.

Copy music onto it, using their media library functions. It's slightly easier than dragging it off the hard disk, which doesn't work either.

It might do, mine did. It depends how advanced it is, I got an iPod which doesnt but my old basic player did.

I have a Creative MuVoTX FM and I do get my full 256Mb of it (it's a USB device supported by Win 2000 and XP, ditto Win 98).

Mine supports MP3 and WMA. Now they are weird formats of MP3 and WMA which have variable sampling rates within the same file which MP3 players cannot handle.
then you are a lucky bastard, I have 2 mp3 players and a 32 meg memory card, none of them have the advertised memory size

and dont use winamp to put things on the mp3 player. WinAmp is not designed to burn cds, rip music from cds, or move music onto an mp3 player, (and it just plays music, doesnt even queue it right, I can make better queues in mIRC scripts). Use Windows Media Player or Music Match Jukebox (which I would use but they updated it around 1.8 so all the skins that work are horribly unsightly). I guess iTunes might work if you have htat on your computer

I checked again - I get 254,550,016 bytes (That's 242Mb).
So, the MP3 firmware is taking up some space.

The advertising is misleading as the firmware on the MP3 uses space on the Flash RAM.

:)

Mine supports MP3 and WMA. Now they are weird formats of MP3 and WMA which have variable sampling rates within the same file which MP3 players cannot handle.

Mine should support VBR, but my stuff's constant bitrate anyway.

It's very strange, indeed. Especially since you can't copy them using Explorer. The MuVo uses flash memory, which rarely has problems. There may be corrupted data on that sector or on the allocation table.

A quick google reveals there are a number of people with the same problem. Some have had success formatting the unit again using FAT, maybe it will solve it for you too.

It's very strange, indeed. Especially since you can't copy them using Explorer. The MuVo uses flash memory, which rarely has problems. There may be corrupted data on that sector or on the allocation table.

A quick google reveals there are a number of people with the same problem. Some have had success formatting the unit again using FAT, maybe it will solve it for you too.

Did that, but it's worth another try...

Mine should support VBR, but my stuff's constant bitrate anyway.

Did you update the firmware on the MP3 player itself?
Mine needed an update to be able to handle FAT32 formatting.

Did you update the firmware on the MP3 player itself?
Mine needed an update to be able to handle FAT32 formatting.

The firmware on the blayer is a newer version than on creative's site. Wierd.

It specifically says in the manual not to use fat32, so i left it as fat16.

The firmware on the blayer is a newer version than on creative's site. Wierd.

It specifically says in the manual not to use fat32, so i left it as fat16.

This is the info about the 1.10.05 update - the manuals are always a little outdated. I use the FM version which has radio.

NOMAD MuVo TX Audible Firmware Upgrade 1.10.05
MVTX-FWARE-2-LB

This upgrade enables you to play Audible® audio content on your NOMAD MuVo® TX player. For complete functionality, confirm that you meet the requirements listed below before installing this upgrade.

Added Features or Enhancements

Supports the playback of Audible tracks.
Supports the FAT32 file system.
Adds a Cue/Review setting, which enables you to listen to a track while scanning forward or backward within it.
Supports two levels of subfolders.
Improves the response time when turning on your player.
Fixes

Resolves the issue of the player turning off after playing back certain VBR (Variable Bitrate) files.
Enables player detection after your computer is restarted.
Adds the Settings option to the Record function.
Resolves the issue with Voice Record mode not exiting correctly.
Resolves the with voice recordings not being recognized.
Requirements:

Microsoft® Windows XP, Windows 2000, Windows Millennium or Windows 98 Second Edition
Available USB port (version 1.1 or higher)
NOMAD MuVo TX
Notes:

To install this firmware update, double-click the firmware update file and follow the instructions on the screen.
To skip sections within an Audible track:
Press the scroller while the track is being played back.
Scroll Select the Skip Section icon.
Turn the scroller in the desired direction to skip sections within the track.
Skipping to the beginning of an Audible track is only possible when the Skip Section function is enabled. Turning the scroller during regular playback (when the Skip Section function is not enabled) will cause your player to skip to the previous track.
To enable the Cue/Review feature:
Press the scroller. The Main Menu appears.
Scroll Select the Settings icon.
Scroll Select the Cue/Review icon.
Scroll Select the On option.
AudibleManager can be obtained from www.audible.com/software.

The firmware on the blayer is a newer version than on creative's site. Wierd.

It specifically says in the manual not to use fat32, so i left it as fat16.
Hmmm... how many songs are you trying to put into it? FAT16 has a limit of around 200 long name files per folder.

To get around it you would have create another folder to store the rest of the songs.

The firmware on the blayer is a newer version than on creative's site. Wierd.

It specifically says in the manual not to use fat32, so i left it as fat16.
that should be impossible, are you reading it right and for the right player

Reformatted it, same problem. But this time, it held more before going mad.

My old mp3 player did this too, I think...

Reformatted it, same problem. But this time, it held more before going mad.

My old mp3 player did this too, I think...

Flash the firmware and try FAT32. If this fails again, the flash chip is going faulty.

Ihatevacations']that should be impossible, are you reading it right and for the right player

Quote the manual that came with the player:

"Your player does not support the FAT32 (32-Bit FIle Allocation System) file system. Format your player with the FAT File System only."

I'll try fat32, see if my luck holds out. What do creative know? :p

Reformatted it, same problem. But this time, it held more before going mad.

My old mp3 player did this too, I think...
Yup, could be the ol' 200 file limit. Have you tried using sub-folders?

Quote the manual that came with the player:

"Your player does not support the FAT32 (32-Bit FIle Allocation System) file system. Format your player with the FAT File System only."

Mine said that too. But I realised that applied to the firmware at the time - I do use FAT32 on mine now.

I dont care for these newer mp3 payers. i built one back shortly after the format came out in the 90s. I used a p2 and had 2 3gig hds on it. Initally had problems with shock(being in the back of my truck), but solved it by using some rubberbands as support.

I still got it and it runs swell. nearly got the hard drive full though. I recently added a Wifi network bridge to it so i can upload more music and connect to these wifi spots at truck stops. Works nicely.

w00t! w00t!

It seems to like FAT32, so i'll throw the manual where the sun don't shine.

"You can't believe all you read, Charles!"

I dont care for these newer mp3 payers. i built one back shortly after the format came out in the 90s. I used a p2 and had 2 3gig hds on it. Initally had problems with shock(being in the back of my truck), but solved it by using some rubberbands as support.

I still got it and it runs swell. nearly got the hard drive full though. I recently added a Wifi network bridge to it so i can upload more music and connect to these wifi spots at truck stops. Works nicely.
Well nowadays we like mp3 players we can carry around for portable music, not things the size of the average boombox we have to carry around in our vehicles, we can buy steroes that support that stuff

Quote the manual that came with the player:

"Your player does not support the FAT32 (32-Bit FIle Allocation System) file system. Format your player with the FAT File System only."
I meant the website, fuck the manual, those are only good for telling you what the buttons and things do

I dont care for these newer mp3 payers. i built one back shortly after the format came out in the 90s. I used a p2 and had 2 3gig hds on it. Initally had problems with shock(being in the back of my truck), but solved it by using some rubberbands as support.

I still got it and it runs swell. nearly got the hard drive full though. I recently added a Wifi network bridge to it so i can upload more music and connect to these wifi spots at truck stops. Works nicely.

Some new ones use hard drives which are cushioned from shock with special gel to some kind - which is what your PC is doing ;)

w00t! w00t!

It seems to like FAT32, so i'll throw the manual where the sun don't shine.

"You can't believe all you read, Charles!"

Glad to help! Now you can go disco around the place :D

I still got it and it runs swell. nearly got the hard drive full though. I recently added a Wifi network bridge to it so i can upload more music and connect to these wifi spots at truck stops. Works nicely.
Nice. What OS did you use? Did you hook it up to a LCD display?

And thanks to all :D

And thanks to all :D

Oh yes, one thing about the Creative MuVo series - the voice recording is apparently crap.

Oh yes, one thing about the Creative MuVo series - the voice recording is apparently crap.

I mostly speak crap, so that shouldn't be a problem. :p

For now, i'm totally clueless...
Go to the store were you bought it and ask the clerk who sold it. If he doesnt cooperate, ask for the store manager. Get a new player and if the problem persists ask for a refund and boycott the manufacturer from now on.
My SOP for mysterious problems with electronic gadgets, works everytime.