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A transformers movie!

Guffingford
22-07-2005, 14:21
http://www.transformerslive.com/

Yes! Steven Spielberg better be making a good movie instead of the monumentally bad reels of film he found in the gutter known as War of the Worlds. Anyway, nice to see a truly old-school theme hitting the silver screen.
Cromotar
22-07-2005, 14:29
Hmmm... this could turn out to be really good, or it could be a disaster. Dreamworks has produced a little of both, so I think I'll wait and see how this takes form (pun intended). (Not that I'm holding my breath, 2007 is a ways off...)
Jeruselem
22-07-2005, 14:30
Got a few of those! Might go buy a Unicron toy once they are released. :D
Harlesburg
22-07-2005, 14:31
Well ill buy the original tomorrow.
Transformers!-sing along.
Undelia
22-07-2005, 14:36
Spielberg has to be one of my favorite directors. I mean, who else can think up stuff that even George Lucas can’t create?
Canada6
22-07-2005, 14:40
Steven Spielberg is a wizard movie maker but unfortunately Michael Bay will be directing this transformers movie.
Megaloria
22-07-2005, 15:14
Got a few of those! Might go buy a Unicron toy once they are released. :D
Unicron figures have been available since two or three years ago. I have one, it's fantastic. Hanging in my living room.
L-rouge
22-07-2005, 15:21
This film will either be supremely good, or moumentally bad.

They've already confirmed that Megatron will be a tank?! And that Soundwave will propably be a helicopter...
[NS]Ihatevacations
22-07-2005, 15:29
What the fuck? Did Spielberg plug the wayback machine into his car too? Transformers are dead, they havn't been cool for years, now its some lame crap with all these stupid little kids, not back in the day where they were cars and stuff and the bad guys were plans or something and they went around blowing stuff to hell
Undelia
22-07-2005, 15:37
Ihatevacations']What the fuck? Did Spielberg plug the wayback machine into his car too? Transformers are dead, they havn't been cool for years, now its some lame crap with all these stupid little kids, not back in the day where they were cars and stuff and the bad guys were plans or something and they went around blowing stuff to hell
Darn those plans. Always blowing everything up. Why can’t people just act randomly? :p
Jjimjja
22-07-2005, 16:09
not really suprised someone is making a transformer movie.
Ever since i saw that Peugeot advert where the car changes in a robot and dances, this has been coming. IMO anyway.
Troon
22-07-2005, 16:15
T'was a Citroen advert.

Runs away
Megaloria
22-07-2005, 16:24
Ihatevacations']What the fuck? Did Spielberg plug the wayback machine into his car too? Transformers are dead, they havn't been cool for years, now its some lame crap with all these stupid little kids, not back in the day where they were cars and stuff and the bad guys were plans or something and they went around blowing stuff to hell

The major difference between G1 Transformers and the newer lines is that nowadays, things are written by the Japanese, animated, then shipped over here. Back in the 80's the wrting team was Canadian and American. The last well-written Transformers show was Beast Machines, but this movie will probably bring us out of the realm of shouting special attack names and kids who make Spike Witwicky look like a golden god.
Jjimjja
22-07-2005, 16:30
T'was a Citroen advert.

Runs away

oh yeah! :(

have you seen the joke one with the peugeot. at the end it falls to pieces :p
Warrigal
22-07-2005, 16:46
I imagine all of the Transformers will have radios instead of guns... ;)
Megaloria
22-07-2005, 16:50
I imagine all of the Transformers will have radios instead of guns... ;)

Heh. No, they'll wait for the 20th anniversary version to do that. Besides, they're shooting for PG-13 on this movie.

By the way, I offer myself as official liason between the Nationstates geeks and the Transformers geeks. Direct all inquiries to me.
Trakken
22-07-2005, 17:02
Ihatevacations']What the fuck? Did Spielberg plug the wayback machine into his car too? Transformers are dead, they havn't been cool for years, now its some lame crap with all these stupid little kids, not back in the day where they were cars and stuff and the bad guys were plans or something and they went around blowing stuff to hell

Someone's not paying attention. Transformers has been one of the hottest toy lines for collectors since the late 90's. Check out Ebay where stupid people pay $1000 for a $10 toy just because it's still factory sealed and some 3rd party grading company says it's an "85".

Frankly, from what I've read about this movie, it is going to be a big disappointment. He's talking about "a boy and his car" themes and needing to show the Transformers though a human's eyes. What he fails to grasp is that the original series drew such a loyal following because instead of loading it with tag-along kid characters, they succeeded in "humanizing" the robot characters themselves.
Megaloria
22-07-2005, 17:10
Someone's not paying attention. Transformers has been one of the hottest toy lines for collectors since the late 90's. Check out Ebay where stupid people pay $1000 for a $10 toy just because it's still factory sealed and some 3rd party grading company says it's an "85".

Frankly, from what I've read about this movie, it is going to be a big disappointment. He's talking about "a boy and his car" themes and needing to show the Transformers though a human's eyes. What he fails to grasp is that the original series drew such a loyal following because instead of loading it with tag-along kid characters, they succeeded in "humanizing" the robot characters themselves.

Someone has to teach them to "be human", though. The "boy and his car" thing isn't as bad as it sounds. They pretty much mean that Spike (or whatever they decide to call this guy) will be the Autobots' first contact with humans, and he'll get along real well with Bumblebee since they're both young (in relation to their respective races). A lot of fans are clamouring about wanting a wall-to-wall robot battle with 500 characters and Megatron as a dinky little gun and Soundwave as an outdated piece of recording technology, but that kind of stuff doesn't work. Spielberg knows this. He's not making a movie for die-hard fans to masturbate to, he's making something that has a wide appeal, will enchant kids, will make young parents remember how they felt about it when they were kids, sell a lot of toys and posters, and lay the foundation for a sequel or two.
The Kreegans
22-07-2005, 17:13
Someone's not paying attention. Transformers has been one of the hottest toy lines for collectors since the late 90's. Check out Ebay where stupid people pay $1000 for a $10 toy just because it's still factory sealed and some 3rd party grading company says it's an "85".

Frankly, from what I've read about this movie, it is going to be a big disappointment. He's talking about "a boy and his car" themes and needing to show the Transformers though a human's eyes. What he fails to grasp is that the original series drew such a loyal following because instead of loading it with tag-along kid characters, they succeeded in "humanizing" the robot characters themselves.
Exactly, that's what made Optimus Prime so lovable. The guy was chased halfway acrossed the galaxy and off of his home planet, almost destroyed, and then had to fight a revolution from the boondocks of the solar system. A human's only place in the Transformers universe is to differentiate the robots between bad and good, and to fit into smaller spaces that the robots can't. Other than that, they were just cannon fodder for Decepticons.
New Sans
22-07-2005, 17:18
Well at least Uwe Boll isn't directing it.
The Kreegans
22-07-2005, 17:18
Someone has to teach them to "be human", though. The "boy and his car" thing isn't as bad as it sounds. They pretty much mean that Spike (or whatever they decide to call this guy) will be the Autobots' first contact with humans, and he'll get along real well with Bumblebee since they're both young (in relation to their respective races). A lot of fans are clamouring about wanting a wall-to-wall robot battle with 500 characters and Megatron as a dinky little gun and Soundwave as an outdated piece of recording technology, but that kind of stuff doesn't work. Spielberg knows this. He's not making a movie for die-hard fans to masturbate to, he's making something that has a wide appeal, will enchant kids, will make young parents remember how they felt about it when they were kids, sell a lot of toys and posters, and lay the foundation for a sequel or two.
The Transformers were never tought to "be human", as you say. They came naturally programmed with emotions and such. Some just respected the indiginous life of alein planets, and others didn't.

While changes need to be made for the movie to stay recent, changes don't have to stop the "galactic civil war" feel of the movie. That's what Transformers was about, and trying to make it about an individual relationship rather than a total war is almost impossible without losing the original intent of it.

Also, watch the sexual imagry. NationStates is for everyone to enjoy, not just those of us over the age of consent.
Megaloria
22-07-2005, 17:29
The Transformers were never tought to "be human", as you say. They came naturally programmed with emotions and such. Some just respected the indiginous life of alein planets, and others didn't.

While changes need to be made for the movie to stay recent, changes don't have to stop the "galactic civil war" feel of the movie. That's what Transformers was about, and trying to make it about an individual relationship rather than a total war is almost impossible without losing the original intent of it.

Also, watch the sexual imagry. NationStates is for everyone to enjoy, not just those of us over the age of consent.

Given the current list of characters appearing in the film, there's got to be some degree of "teaching" going on. Jazz will pick up on pop culture and music., etc.

For those interested, the current list of characters is as follows:

Autobots

Optimus Prime (transport truck)
Jazz (car)
Ratchet (firetruck)
Arcee (motorcycle?)
Bumblebee (car)

Decepticons

Megatron (tank)
Soundwave (helicopter) + minion(s) (?)
Starscream (fighter plane)
Unconfirmed (rumour: Shockwave)
Unconfirmed (rumours: Skywarp, Thundercracker, Astrotrain, Scourge, etc, etc)
Greedy Pig
22-07-2005, 17:58
Oh my. LIke most already said, could be major disastor or huge success. Nowhere in between.
L-rouge
22-07-2005, 18:02
Given the current list of characters appearing in the film, there's got to be some degree of "teaching" going on. Jazz will pick up on pop culture and music., etc.

For those interested, the current list of characters is as follows:

Autobots

Optimus Prime (transport truck)
Jazz (car)
Ratchet (firetruck)
Arcee (motorcycle?)
Bumblebee (car)

Decepticons

Megatron (tank)
Soundwave (helicopter) + minion(s) (?)
Starscream (fighter plane)
Unconfirmed (rumour: Shockwave)
Unconfirmed (rumours: Skywarp, Thundercracker, Astrotrain, Scourge, etc, etc)
Shcokwave's been confirmed on Don Murphy's site.
Tekania
22-07-2005, 18:09
http://www.transformerslive.com/

Yes! Steven Spielberg better be making a good movie instead of the monumentally bad reels of film he found in the gutter known as War of the Worlds. Anyway, nice to see a truly old-school theme hitting the silver screen.

Did someone miss Transformers: The Movie (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0092106/)? This is certainly not the first one....

I hope they get good voice actors:
(Original Movie)
Eric Idle : Wreck-Gar
Casey Kassum : Cliftjumper
John Moschitta : Blurr (May remember him as the "Micromachine Man" in the Micromachine comercials)...
Leonard Nimoy : Galvatron
Robert Stack : Ultra Magnus
Orson Wells : Unicron
Lionel Stander : Kup
BlackKnight_Poet
22-07-2005, 18:10
It's just to bad that they cannot use some of the old voices in the new movie. The first Starscream and Megatron voices were killer, but alas the voice of the first Starscream died years ago.
L-rouge
22-07-2005, 18:20
It's just to bad that they cannot use some of the old voices in the new movie. The first Starscream and Megatron voices were killer, but alas the voice of the first Starscream died years ago.
Don Murphy says he is after getting Frank Welker (Megatron/Soundwave) and Peter Cullen (Prime) to do voices again.
Megaloria
22-07-2005, 18:54
Don Murphy says he is after getting Frank Welker (Megatron/Soundwave) and Peter Cullen (Prime) to do voices again.

And the current favourite for Starscream's part is Mark Hamill.
[NS]Ihatevacations
22-07-2005, 18:58
The major difference between G1 Transformers and the newer lines is that nowadays, things are written by the Japanese, animated, then shipped over here. Back in the 80's the wrting team was Canadian and American. The last well-written Transformers show was Beast Machines, but this movie will probably bring us out of the realm of shouting special attack names and kids who make Spike Witwicky look like a golden god.
Yeah, thats hat I was thinking, beast machines wasnt uber, but its alot better than the g-gundam wanna-be crap we have now. The tag-along kids makes the show horrible, now its about "oh my god kdis, save the kids, get the little tiny micro machine transformer thingamabobs to save the world!" Beast machiens was like "damn you megatron, we'll kick your ass. and they were trying to save fellow transformeres, there were no dumbass kids runnig around fucknig with shit and they were being a bunch of dumbass pansies, they turned into weird animals and beat shit up"
Falhaar
22-07-2005, 19:04
I hate to burst your bubble, but Steven Spielberg is not directing "Transformers". He is merely the executive producer.

The film is being directed by Michael Bay, who has made films such as "Armaggedon", "Bad Boys 2" and "Pearl Harbor".

The script is currently being written by John Rogers, who created such masterpieces as "The Core" and "Catwoman" as well as Roberto Orci, who wrote "The Island" and the tv show "Hercules".

Sorry, but Spielberg won't be all that involved in this project. It's not a "Poltergeist" scenario.
Tanaara
22-07-2005, 19:04
As a die hard addict of the original Transformers- series and comics, and the hard back hand books ( yes the ones out of England that are now days completely impossible to find )

I'm waiting, and praying not to be horribly disappointed.
[NS]Ghost Stalker
22-07-2005, 21:17
IMO they need to do Beast Wars instead.