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My family on my dad's side is Welsh...on my mum's side partially welsh partially english, partially irish...etc etc....I moved to Wales (from England - horrible, horrible england) about 5 years ago.....people in england call me a "Welsh Sheep Shagger", people in Wales call me "English" (both equal insults). I would like to be considered Welsh by all - what am I?

(If you must know, I live in a place called Glyn-Coch, which is on a road called Ffynnongain Lane, which is in a village called Pwll-Trap, which is part of a town/village called San-Clér, in a county call Sír Gaerffyrddin, part of the Dyfed Powys constabulary (in police areas).... My nearest neighbours live in houses like Penlline Fawr.... People in the area often call me Llew (lion)... My name is Owain David Llewelyn Jones, My sister's name is Sian Jones, My brother is James Llewelyn Jones, My dad is Huw Llewelyn Jones, my grandad is Tom Jones, my uncles are Emlyn and Gareth Llewlyn Jones....any questions?)

EDIT: This is by no means a religous question...please...no religion!!

You are a human being, a child of God.

Read the first post again...

You are a figment of my imagination, just like everyone else. Once we've cleared that, let's call you a Welglish.

Lol, well you changed it after I had posted. And, if you wanna be like that, you are a human being.

You are a figment of my imagination, just like everyone else. Once we've cleared that, let's call you a Welglish.

NOOOOOOO!! Welsh....please? I hate being refered to as English in any way, and people insist on doing it!!

seems to me you're totally Welsh.

what does your accent sound like? if it's got both English and Welsh to it i can understand the confusion.

You're British, that broad scope isn't enough? If not, that's not fair. I get crap for being American, nevermind where I'm from. Equal treatment for the masses, yo.

But as far as I'm concerned, in actuality, you're European and that's fine. (Anybody who can tell me what that's from gets a prize)

Lol, well you changed it after I had posted. And, if you wanna be like that, you are a human being.

Well, that's better than normal answers...lol

Well, that's better than normal answers...lol

Well, it's true isn't it.

Unless you aren't human......

seems to me you're totally Welsh.

what does your accent sound like? if it's got both English and Welsh to it i can understand the confusion.

I have actually got a fairly neutral english :( accent....But it's getting towards welsh!! (ish)

Simonist']You're British, that broad scope isn't enough? If not, that's not fair. I get crap for being American, nevermind where I'm from. Equal treatment for the masses, yo.

But as far as I'm concerned, in actuality, you're European and that's fine. (Anybody who can tell me what that's from gets a prize)

No No No!!!

being classed as Biritsh and even worse European get's right on my ***s.

I'm Irish by birth English by nationality.

dude you are british. if people then enquire further say what you feel i have tendancey to say welsh since your family but depends where you were brought up and how long you have lived in whatever places. British from the United Kingdom

You must be English, right? I thought you had to be at least 2nd generation pure Welsh to be considered Welsh by the Welsh.


Ignore me, I just had to see how many times I could say Welsh in a sentence without breaking it.

Well, it's true isn't it.

Unless you aren't human......

*ahem* thiIeruewp s'Mur vvjf ihgfdmmnoypyt Human...

You must be English, right? I thought you had to be at least 2nd generation pure Welsh to be considered Welsh by the Welsh.


Ignore me, I just had to see how many times I could say Welsh in a sentence without breaking it.


Not many then? lol....so what, in your serious opinion, am i?

NOOOOOOO!! Welsh....please? I hate being refered to as English in any way, and people insist on doing it!!
Alright, have it your way and be Welsh, then. Frankly, it's not like anyone outside the UK can tell you apart or even cares.

Alright, have it your way and be Welsh, then. Frankly, it's not like anyone outside the UK can tell you apart or even cares.

My parents own a craft shop......we get lots of tourists.....they all say "you're not from around here are you?" Even the Americans do so.....

Alright, have it your way and be Welsh, then. Frankly, it's not like anyone outside the UK can tell you apart or even cares.
Now that's just not true. I'm pretty damn far outside the UK and I like to think I can make fair distinctions in accent. I might be wrong, I don't know, it's never been tested....

By and large, though, in an American-minded sense (with our beer goggles and our hokey cinematical view of you guys), apparently all Europeans, no matter where they're from, have either a German or English accent. There's no arguing. I don't care how many of my still-living relatives are from all over Europe and speak in tongues, I'm afraid I must stick with my fellow ignorants and insist that there's just a bunch of Nazis and nancies across the ocean.

(anybody who takes offense to that is a fool, a disappointing fool)

*ahem* thiIeruewp s'Mur vvjf ihgfdmmnoypyt Human...


Wales can have you by all accounts, by the way, what did England ever do to YOU persoanlly? :mad:

Simonist']Now that's just not true. I'm pretty damn far outside the UK and I like to think I can make fair distinctions in accent. I might be wrong, I don't know, it's never been tested....
That may be, but do you care? They look alike, they act pretty much the same way, except for a few unimportant details, and their most important distinction is whether their family comes from one end of the island or the other, they might as well be the same people.

That may be, but do you care? They look alike, they act pretty much the same way, except for a few unimportant details, and their most important distinction is whether their family comes from one end of the island or the other, they might as well be the same people.
Actually I do care. My grandpa's from Ireland and even he gets all huffy when people get stuff like that wrong, so I guess I just picked up an intense attention to detail when I was a child.

He also kicked one of my friends out of his house for saying that they liked his Scottish accent, but that was really just funny.

Love to stay and chat, non-Americans, but I have to get to work or rent's not coming in this month. Have a lovely morning, afternoon, evening, day, night, whatever.

Wales can have you by all accounts, by the way, what did England ever do to YOU persoanlly? :mad:

Erm, gave me asthma, got me bullied, made me puke on several occassions.......I have a looooooooong list - want it?

No No No!!!

being classed as Biritsh and even worse European get's right on my ***s.

I'm Irish by birth English by nationality.

I hate to tell you, but there's no such thing as English nationality. You must have British nationality.

I hate to tell you, but there's no such thing as English nationality. You must have British nationality.

Then why do people talk about the "English Nation"?

The British are very proud that they are not each other.

Did that make sense?

The English are incredibly proud that they don't wear skirts, therefore AREN'T pansies, that they're not Welsh, therefore have nothing to do with sheep, and that they're not Irish, therefore they don't get drunk all the time.

The Welsh love their sheep, and are incredibly proud of them, they're proud about the non-skirt wearing, the non-drunkeness, and they're really proud that they're not stuck-up like the English.

The Scottish love their skirts, okay kilts, and therefore, they go bare underneath. While the scottish do have sheep, the presence of the kilts make the sheep that much cooler. Plus, they're proud that they are not English, Welsh, and Irish. (okay I'm getting a bit bored here).

And the Irish! Oh, the Irish, they are incredibly proud of their religion, and the amount of alchohal they manage to consume in a year. However, to go against everyone's expectations of them, and to prove they were a little bit insane, the Irish were the first in Europe to ban smoking in public places.

So that is why, as a British person, you must clearly define who you are. And okay, I exagerated that a little bit, so I'm sorry if I offend anyone in the process. But it's true! Okay, maybe not...

Okay so I have a question. I'm Eurasian, making my father of the European kind. I always said he was English because both my grandfather and my father, and I have no idea hor many ancestors were born in an ittybitty English town. So recently I found out that one of my ancestors moved to that town in the 1700s from Wales. What does that make me. English but of Welsh decent?

what am I?
Carp?

The British are very proud that they are not each other.

Did that make sense?

The English are incredibly proud that they don't wear skirts, therefore AREN'T pansies, that they're not Welsh, therefore have nothing to do with sheep, and that they're not Irish, therefore they don't get drunk all the time.

The Welsh love their sheep, and are incredibly proud of them, they're proud about the non-skirt wearing, the non-drunkeness, and they're really proud that they're not stuck-up like the English.

The Scottish love their skirts, okay kilts, and therefore, they go bare underneath. While the scottish do have sheep, the presence of the kilts make the sheep that much cooler. Plus, they're proud that they are not English, Welsh, and Irish. (okay I'm getting a bit bored here).

And the Irish! Oh, the Irish, they are incredibly proud of their religion, and the amount of alchohal they manage to consume in a year. However, to go against everyone's expectations of them, and to prove they were a little bit insane, the Irish were the first in Europe to ban smoking in public places.

So that is why, as a British person, you must clearly define who you are. And okay, I exagerated that a little bit, so I'm sorry if I offend anyone in the process. But it's true! Okay, maybe not...

Okay so I have a question. I'm Eurasian, making my father of the European kind. I always said he was English because both my grandfather and my father, and I have no idea hor many ancestors were born in an ittybitty English town. So recently I found out that one of my ancestors moved to that town in the 1700s from Wales. What does that make me. English but of Welsh decent?

First of all, most of the welsh people I know - and living in Wales and considering myself welsh - I know a few - pride themselves on being drunk and some of them wear skirts - ok kilts (yes, there are such things as welsh kilts - just not as widely known about).....Secondly - what do you consider yourself? That's what I think see, it's what you consider yourself....In fact I may try and consider myself a martian....more fun that way.......lol :lol:

Carp?
Or haddock possibly? or do you mean by that - crap?

What are you? You're a troll, albiet one with a modicum of intelligence. Pity you don't use it more. ;)

What are you? You're a troll, albiet one with a modicum of intelligence. Pity you don't use it more. ;)

How am I a troll? Just asking...

And the Irish! Oh, the Irish, they are incredibly proud of their religion, and the amount of alchohal they manage to consume in a year. However, to go against everyone's expectations of them, and to prove they were a little bit insane, the Irish were the first in Europe to ban smoking in public places.

So that is why, as a British person, you must clearly define who you are.

So recently I found out that one of my ancestors moved to that town in the 1700s from Wales. What does that make me. English but of Welsh decent?
by no definition can the irish be regarded as british.

if they were in wales for a long time before they left you could be said to be of welsh descent, but not if they just passed through for a generation or two.

You're from whichever country you were born in.

Or haddock possibly? or do you mean by that - crap?
no I really did mean carp.

no I really did mean carp.

In which case I'd rather be Haddock, or possibly Cod...

by no definition can the irish be regarded as british.

if they were in wales for a long time before they left you could be said to be of welsh descent, but not if they just passed through for a generation or two.

Hm. Okay. That makes sense.

But last time I checked Northern Ireland was part of Britain.

In which case I'd rather be Haddock, or possibly Cod...
WELL IT'S NOT UP TO YOU IS IT

If you are serious about this question... you are both Welsh and English. Genetically both are part of you and if either, and any of the other nationalities you mentioned and ones you are most likely unaware of, were missing you wouldn't be here. You can choose however which heritage you wish to emulate. That is obviously the Welsh. :)

Awww... look at'em little apes trying to define what they are by looking at what side of an imaginary line they were born. People are so funny, erecting this imaginary walls around them to separate them from other people, even though they are, for all effects and purposes, the same.

And it's even funnier when you consider that this lines are often drawn around what they're not than what they are, and where their parents were born and the language they spoke than anything they themselves may have accomplished or believe in as individuals.

They're so busy building their imaginary boundaries and definitions that they can't see the plain truth of their being, what they really are: damn filthy apes, the whole lot of you, humans!! At least some of you taste good! :D

Awww... look at'em little apes trying to define what they are by looking at what side of an imaginary line they were born. People are so funny, erecting this imaginary walls around them to separate them from other people, even though they are, for all effects and purposes, the same.

And it's even funnier when you consider that this lines are often drawn around what they're not than what they are, and where their parents were born and the language they spoke than anything they themselves may have accomplished or believe in as individuals.

They're so busy building their imaginary boundaries and definitions that they can't see the plain truth of their being, what they really are: damn filthy apes, the whole lot of you, humans!! At least some of you taste good! :D

Feeling a little dizzy and weak from hunger?Having a hypoglycemic attack? That may explain your behavior....it can make you irritable...hmmm though the superiority complex... don't know if it would account for that lol...maybe it is just a compensation mechanism. ... hmmm the possibilities abound...

This concept of "Welsh" confuses and infuriates us!

--Lrrr, Omicron Persei VIII

Feeling a little dizzy and weak from hunger/ Having a hypoglycemic attack/ That may explain your behavior....it can make you irritable...hmmm though the superiority complex... don't know if it would account for that lol...maybe it is just a compensation mechanism. ... hmmm the possibilities abound...
Yes. It all started when I was three and I realized that my mother was a swamp rat. Not that I have anything against swamp rats, they play an important role in the ecosystem... and I loved my mother... and she loved me... or at least I think she did...

Yes. It all started when I was three and I realized that my mother was a swamp rat. Not that I have anything against swamp rats, they play an important role in the ecosystem... and I loved my mother... and she loved me... or at least I think she did...

Poor little swamp rat lol.... btw... how do you type so well? lol.

Poor little swamp rat lol.... btw... how do you type so well? lol.
We had typing class at school. On typewriters, no less. It was a modern swamp, you know.

I'm in exactly the same situation (except 1/2 Scottish and not 1/2 Welsh) and get insulted from both sides, which is equally depressing :(

I just say British and don't let anyone call me either English or Scottish.

Hm. Okay. That makes sense.

But last time I checked Northern Ireland was part of Britain.
Northern Ireland is part of the U.K. that is; the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. common mistake. i suppose it's an easy mistake to make, i suppose, but it's still a little annoying to be called something your not. :)

Since your first post is lacking several dozens llylcwllyns,
you can't be welsh by any means. ;)

Since your first post is lacking several dozens llylcwllyns,
you can't be welsh by any means. ;)

You really don't know much about Welsh or Wales do you? .... If you must know, I live in a place called Glyn-Coch, which is on a road called Ffynnongain Lane, which is in a village called Pwll-Trap, which is part of a town/village called San-Clér, in a county call Sír Gaerffyrddin, part of the Dyfed Powys constabulary (in police areas).... My nearest neighbours live in houses like Penlline Fawr.... People in the area often call me Llew (lion)... My name is Owain David Llewelyn Jones, My sister's name is Sian Jones, My brother is James Llewelyn Jones, My dad is Huw Llewelyn Jones, my grandad is Tom Jones, my uncles are Emlyn and Gareth Llewlyn Jones....any questions?

You really don't know much about Welsh or Wales do you? .... If you must know, I live in a place called Glyn-Coch, which is on a road called Ffynnongain Lane, which is in a village called Pwll-Trap, which is part of a town/village called San-Clér, in a county call Sír Gaerffyrddin, part of the Dyfed Powys constabulary (in police areas).... My nearest neighbours live in houses like Penlline Fawr.... People in the area often call me Llew (lion)... My name is Owain David Llewelyn Jones, My sister's name is Sian Jones, My brother is James Llewelyn Jones, My dad is Huw Llewelyn Jones, my grandad is Tom Jones, my uncles are Emlyn and Gareth Llewlyn Jones....any questions?
could you be any more Welsh?

could you be any more Welsh?

I suppose my mum could have been called Gwen.....

You is Human Bean.

Wengish?

Where have you lived for the majority of your life? You cant call yourself welsh unless you have lived there for most of your life

If I met you I would probably just play it safe and call you Brittish. Scottish and Welsh definately get offended if you call them English, but Brittish is a nice all encompassing term for everyone from the Great Brittain. Also, Americans tend to easily confuse Scottish and Welsh, since we don't have much experience with the people of those groups, so the prudent thing to do is to just refer to a person like you as Brittish. If you then ask me to call you Welsh or any other nationality/group name, I would most certainly do so.

You're an Anglophobe!!! *runs off after wild outburst*

You're an Anglophobe!!! *runs off after wild outburst*

If someone called you blacky and you pointed out to them that you neither had black skin, nor had black hair, nor wore black at all, would that make you a racist? No, if, in doing so you insulted people who happen to have black skin/hair, THEN you would be a racist - I haven't insulted any English people here, therfore not an anglophobe...

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You are a United Kingdom'er or a Briton or a BAstard or a Mongrel.

You are a United Kingdom'er or a Briton or a BAstard or a Mongrel.

Really? Thanks.