NationStates Jolt Archive


More London incidents?

Kradlumania
21-07-2005, 13:32
The lower half of the building I work in has been evacuated, as has the Tube station opposite (Warren Street). The road has been cleared for at least 100 yards in all directions. The hospital I work at is on major incident alert.

The street is full of police, firemen and guys with sniffer dogs, although they now seem to have entered the station. More police cars are still arriving.

There has been reports of incidents at Shepherds Bush and Oval stations also.
FairyTInkArisen
21-07-2005, 13:35
i'm watching the news, says 3 stations have been evacuated, but there's no reports of injuries
Evilness and Chaos
21-07-2005, 13:36
There's a report of an incident on a bus again too.

Eyewitnesses are describing an explosion on a tube train as 'small'
Findecano Calaelen
21-07-2005, 13:37
kinda scary, safety first head to a pub

nothing on local news keep us informed
Jeruselem
21-07-2005, 13:37
BBC article
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4703777.stm

No indication of explosions, just smoke.
NianNorth
21-07-2005, 13:38
All still a bit vague
The odd one
21-07-2005, 13:39
I'm going to London next month... i hope things calm down a bit by then.
Einsteinian Big-Heads
21-07-2005, 13:39
i'm watching the news, says 3 stations have been evacuated, but there's no reports of injuries

I thought you left, CC was furious.
Evilness and Chaos
21-07-2005, 13:39
I just heard a report of a 'small' explosion 'blowing apart a backpack' on BBC NEWS 24.
Kalmykhia
21-07-2005, 13:39
Yeah, three stations and a bus, but so far only reports of smoke and no injuries. UTV has switched to Breaking News, but the Beeb is still going with local news. So, as of now, it doesn't seem to be much - maybe just a fire?
QuentinTarantino
21-07-2005, 13:41
It would be strange to have terrorist attacks just weeks apart
Evilness and Chaos
21-07-2005, 13:42
Just seen a picture of the bus, looks intact, emegency lights are still working etc.
Spurland
21-07-2005, 13:42
Doesnt really look like much at the moment.
Evilness and Chaos
21-07-2005, 13:42
It would be strange to have terrorist attacks just weeks apart

It's two weeks and five hours since the last attack, give or take.
FAKORIGINAL
21-07-2005, 13:44
We must have posted at the same time :)
http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-1189833,00.html
FairyTInkArisen
21-07-2005, 13:45
I thought you left, CC was furious.
i did but they made me come back
The Elder Malaclypse
21-07-2005, 13:46
It's two weeks and five hours since the last attack, give or take.
oh.
Kradlumania
21-07-2005, 13:47
Sky news has more details - apparently a rucksack exploded with a small explosion and the owner of the rucksack looked "dismayed"

http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-1189833,00.html
Jeruselem
21-07-2005, 13:47
From CNN
http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/07/21/london.tube/index.html

and I'm not even going to look at Fox News version :)
The Elder Malaclypse
21-07-2005, 13:48
Sky news has more details - apparently a rucksack exploded with a small explosion and the owner of the rucksack looked "dismayed"

http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-1189833,00.html
wow, Exploding rucksacks! and At a time like this, what a world!
Kradlumania
21-07-2005, 13:48
I am currently in the middle of the security cordon around Warren Street. They seem to have forgotten to evacuate the rest of my building.
Einsteinian Big-Heads
21-07-2005, 13:50
i did but they made me come back

Welcome back.

My sis reckons the news here is saying there have been no injuries, but I'm too busy watching the cricket.
QuentinTarantino
21-07-2005, 13:50
My friends in London and yesterday my other friend said he want him to get bombed.
Kradlumania
21-07-2005, 13:50
The most worrying thing is that even the police and fire crews now seem to have been evacuated from the Tube Station, unless they all went in when no-one was looking. There are currently no emergency services anywhere near the station.
Findecano Calaelen
21-07-2005, 13:51
i did but they made me come back
be honest you missed me
Whittier--
21-07-2005, 13:55
A nail bomb went off at Warren St.
Evilness and Chaos
21-07-2005, 13:57
A nail bomb went off at Shepard station.

That's Shepard's Bush Station, and that's an unconfirmed rumour.

The bomb sound could simply have been another rucksack blowing apart.
San haiti
21-07-2005, 13:57
A nail bomb went off at Shepard station.

have you got a source?
Kradlumania
21-07-2005, 13:59
That's Shepard's Bush Station, and that's an unconfirmed rumour.

The bomb sound could simply have been another rucksack blowing apart.

That's Shepherds Bush station, where I live. I can see the entrance to Warren Street from here. Nothing happening. No emergency services in sight apart from those manning the cordons 100 yards away.
Catholic Europe
21-07-2005, 14:00
Hmm, seems one of them is a nail bomb. They are nasty things!
Thomish Empire
21-07-2005, 14:01
Oh no I pray nothings happened
Catholic Europe
21-07-2005, 14:02
Sky News are also saying there have been gunshots at Warren Street.
Evilness and Chaos
21-07-2005, 14:02
Hmm, seems one of them is a nail bomb. They are nasty things!

There's no reports of injuries from Shepard's Bush Station though, with a nail bomb you'd expect that.
Kalmykhia
21-07-2005, 14:02
Exploding Rucksack?
So what we have is either another failed suicide bomb attempt, or some guy carrying... oh, I dunno, an aerosol can or something, which randomly exploded. Can't think of any other reason...
And it looks like the Sky website is overloaded - well, it's very slow anyways. And it says the nail-bomb was at Warren Street.
BBC has just said that the authorities are not treating this as a major incident... Phew.
Kradlumania
21-07-2005, 14:02
My colleague just returned (she got in through the basement). She was on the Southbound platform at Warren St when the Northbound train came in and people ran out screaming. She took the southbound train and carried on shopping.
Catholic Europe
21-07-2005, 14:03
There's no reports of injuries from Shepard's Bush Station though, with a nail bomb you'd expect that.

We will just have to wait and see I guess.
Whittier--
21-07-2005, 14:03
That's Shepherds Bush station, where I live. I can see the entrance to Warren Street from here. Nothing happening. No emergency services in sight apart from those manning the cordons 100 yards away.
Is shepard station on warren street? I just edited my post to say warren st cause that's where FOX is saying the explosion was. They're showing emergency vehicle. Just showed a fire engine going by.
Kalmykhia
21-07-2005, 14:04
My colleague just returned (she got in through the basement). She was on the Southbound platform at Warren St when the Northbound train came in and people ran out screaming. She took the southbound train and carried on shopping.
Now that's a proper attitude to have. We can't do anything about this, so carry on with life. Kudos to her!
Evilness and Chaos
21-07-2005, 14:05
Is shepard station on warren street? I just edited my post to say warren st cause that's where FOX is saying the explosion was. They're showing emergency vehicle. Just showed a fire engine going by.

Warren Street station and Shepard's Bush station are two different stations, and they've both been evacuated.
Catholic Europe
21-07-2005, 14:05
Now that's a proper attitude to have. We can't do anything about this, so carry on with life. Kudos to her!

Lol, it is kinda cocky!
Jtnibbles
21-07-2005, 14:06
Shit.

I am worried, small explosions with foul smelling gas that sounds like it could be Biologiocal or chemical. Altought I should not scare monger the police don't seem worried. I think they just said they shut another station.*edit* It was westminister according to the BBC but its reopened now
Findecano Calaelen
21-07-2005, 14:07
Lol, it is kinda cocky!
its the british way
Catholic Europe
21-07-2005, 14:07
Shit.

I am worried, small explosions with foul smelling gas that sounds like it could be Biologiocal or chemical. Altought I should not scare monger the police don't seem worried. I think they just said they shut another station.

Where did you hear that?

And, the police always stay calm and never worry.
Whittier--
21-07-2005, 14:07
People who were at Warren ST. now describing an explosion followed by a burning sensation on a train. All passengers fled to back of train trying to get off.

Edit: Burning sensation? Wait a minute. That doesn't sound like you typical nail bomb.
Kradlumania
21-07-2005, 14:08
Shepherds Bush is about 6 miles from Warren St (I know, I walked it 2 weeks ago). Still impossible to tell what is happening here.

We've been told to stay put now.
Catholic Europe
21-07-2005, 14:08
its the british way

I know, I live in London.
Kalmykhia
21-07-2005, 14:08
Lol, it is kinda cocky!
Cocky, but ballsy. Anyways, the terrorists could attack while you're being evacuated - happened on Bloody Friday, I think, although that was some sort of 'mistake', apparently. So, you might as well get on with it, and not worry about terrorists. If you're gonna get bombed, you're gonna get bombed, and there's nothing you can do about it. Well, apart from be sensible and alert.
Jeruselem
21-07-2005, 14:09
Why would you be walking around with nail bomb in the rucksack, especially a badly built one?
Whittier--
21-07-2005, 14:09
Where did you hear that?

And, the police always stay calm and never worry.
People on the train that was hit are reporting this
Automagfreek
21-07-2005, 14:10
CNN just put the red banner up.

"Police at the scene tell CNN that a device exploded inside a train in or around the Warren Street Underground station in London."
Catholic Europe
21-07-2005, 14:10
Why would you be walking around with nail bomb in the rucksack, especially a badly built one?

Because you're a copycat terrorist. It could be someone young wishing to imitate proper terrorists.
QuentinTarantino
21-07-2005, 14:11
its the british way

Since when? Have you been to the US or France?
Catholic Europe
21-07-2005, 14:11
People on the train that was hit are reporting this

Hmm okay.

Anyway, seems armd police have stormed into a hospital.
Whittier--
21-07-2005, 14:13
University College Hospital has been placed cordoned off by police.

Another explosion is suspected.
Catholic Europe
21-07-2005, 14:13
Hmm, everything seems to be happening.

Bombs, nail bombs, suicide bombers, guns, gas, tubes, hospitals being stormed, buses and everything else!
Evilness and Chaos
21-07-2005, 14:13
If the terroristas followed the same action plan as two weeks ago, right now I'd be checking the CCTV logs from Tottenham Court Road Station.
Kradlumania
21-07-2005, 14:13
University College Hospital has been placed cordoned off by police.

Another explosion is suspected.

That's where I am.
Evilness and Chaos
21-07-2005, 14:14
That's where I am.

Anything happening?
Catholic Europe
21-07-2005, 14:15
That's where I am.
At UCH....

What's happening there?
Kalmykhia
21-07-2005, 14:15
People who were at Warren ST. now describing an explosion followed by a burning sensation on a train. All passengers fled to back of train trying to get off.

Edit: Burning sensation? Wait a minute. That doesn't sound like you typical nail bomb.
Burning sensation? That sounds like tear gas... Or something chemical anyways... I don't know, does smoke inhalation give a burning sensation?
Oh, and it's the Irish way too...
Kradlumania
21-07-2005, 14:16
Anything happening?

The police have set up a table with coffee, apart from that, nothing.
Catholic Europe
21-07-2005, 14:16
Burning sensation? That sounds like tear gas... Or something chemical anyways... I don't know, does smoke inhalation give a burning sensation?
Oh, and it's the Irish way too...

Apparently, according to Sky News, the gas is called 'Mother of Satan' and is very crude and unstable.
Catholic Europe
21-07-2005, 14:17
The police have set up a table with coffee, apart from that, nothing.
Are you sure? Sky news are saying armed police have gone into UCH.
Evilness and Chaos
21-07-2005, 14:18
Apparently, according to Sky News, the gas is called 'Mother of Satan' and is very crude and unstable.
Huh?
Kalmykhia
21-07-2005, 14:18
Since when? Have you been to the US or France?
You know, just because it's the British way, doesn't mean it can't be the American way or the French way either... And I'm not going to argue with it, because it's too close to flamebait.
Catholic Europe
21-07-2005, 14:19
Huh?

The gas at Warren Street. I'm just saying what Sky News are reporting.
Findecano Calaelen
21-07-2005, 14:20
Are you sure? Sky news are saying armed police have gone into UCH.
Are not police usually armed?
Catholic Europe
21-07-2005, 14:20
You know, just because it's the British way, doesn't mean it can't be the American way or the French way either... And I'm not going to argue with it, because it's too close to flamebait.

Does it really matter?
Kradlumania
21-07-2005, 14:20
Are you sure? Sky news are saying armed police have gone into UCH.

I can't get to the main part of the hospital - my building is inside the cordon and I can't get out. Part of the main building will be inside the cordon.

I'll go and try looking out of another window.
Evilness and Chaos
21-07-2005, 14:20
The gas at Warren Street. I'm just saying what Sky News are reporting.

How do they know what this gas is called?

Did the terrorist shout 'Pull my finger!' and then announce the flavour or something :rolleyes:
Kalmykhia
21-07-2005, 14:21
Apparently, according to Sky News, the gas is called 'Mother of Satan' and is very crude and unstable.
That's the explosive used in the 7/7 bombings, acetone peroxide or a similar chemical. It's one of the most unstable explosives there is, and will explode if set on fire. It's not a gas, as far as I know.
And I think Kradlumania would know better than Sky News what's going on in his/her hospital....
EDIT: So, maybe I'm wrong, seeing as he can't get there... Oops.
Catholic Europe
21-07-2005, 14:21
I can't get to the main part of the hospital - my building is inside the cordon and I can't get out. Part of the main building will be inside the cordon.

I'll go and try looking out of another window.

Okay, well as I've already said I'm just reporting what Sky News are saying.
Findecano Calaelen
21-07-2005, 14:22
You know, just because it's the British way, doesn't mean it can't be the American way or the French way either... And I'm not going to argue with it, because it's too close to flamebait.
hence I ignored it
Jeruselem
21-07-2005, 14:22
You know, just because it's the British way, doesn't mean it can't be the American way or the French way either... And I'm not going to argue with it, because it's too close to flamebait.

The British occupied France and America once, so you're both right. ;)
Jtnibbles
21-07-2005, 14:22
It all going on now! Police in chemical suit (warren st I think) and a hugh corden around a hospital armed police think one of the bombers is in there.
Catholic Europe
21-07-2005, 14:23
That's the explosive used in the 7/7 bombings, acetone peroxide or a similar chemical. It's one of the most unstable explosives there is, and will explode if set on fire. It's not a gas, as far as I know.
And I think Kradlumania would know better than Sky News what's going on in his/her hospital....
EDIT: So, maybe I'm wrong, seeing as he can't get there... Oops.

Thankyou! No need to bite my head off in your effort to prove your right.

Idiot.
Evilness and Chaos
21-07-2005, 14:23
There's a report of guys in NBC suits about to enter one of the stations.
Evilness and Chaos
21-07-2005, 14:24
Jesus Kradlumania find a weapon!
Catholic Europe
21-07-2005, 14:24
There's a report of guys in NBC suits about to enter one of the stations.

Warren Street. ;)
Kalmykhia
21-07-2005, 14:25
hence I ignored it
What's this then? :p Yeah, I didn't argue with it, so there really wasn't anything to ignore... BBC says people are going in in NBC suits, and some guy is saying "Oh, that's to be expected", which it probably is, but still... What vidence there is seems to be pointing towards some sort of chemical attack at this point...
Kalmykhia
21-07-2005, 14:25
Thankyou! No need to bite my head off in your effort to prove your right.

Idiot.
Sorry, I should have thrown in a :p there, it was meant to be a joke... Also, I said about six seconds later that you were actually right, and Kradlumania mightn't know... I can admit when I'm wrong...
Thanks for the 'idiot' though. Very nice.
Jtnibbles
21-07-2005, 14:26
I don't know who to belive, theres rumors of gun shots as well!
Kradlumania
21-07-2005, 14:27
From the stairs I can see a large green tarpaulin spread on the road and a decontamination shower set up in the street.
Kradlumania
21-07-2005, 14:28
Those are the regular fire suits. I can see them from the stairs.
Findecano Calaelen
21-07-2005, 14:29
hopefully all just a precaution
Kradlumania
21-07-2005, 14:29
UCH is cordoned off because it is directly opposite Warren St station.
Kradlumania
21-07-2005, 14:31
They are putting up more cordons within the security cordon.

In other news, we're kicking Aussie arse over the other side of Regents Park.
Catholic Europe
21-07-2005, 14:32
Well, like Sky News said, London seems to have had a lucky escape this time.
Jeruselem
21-07-2005, 14:33
If some idiot is running around with acetone peroxide, that stuff is high unstable.

From Wikipedia
Safety considerations: Acetone peroxide is highly heat, friction, and shock sensitive. Even professional chemists have been injured attempting to use it. "Some 40 Palestinians are estimated to have been killed when the explosive detonated spontaneously and prematurely while been handled." [4]
Findecano Calaelen
21-07-2005, 14:34
In other news, we're kicking Aussie arse over the other side of Regents Park.you had to add that didnt you
Kradlumania
21-07-2005, 14:35
you had to add that didnt you

Have to look on the bright side. After all, I might be stuck here for 6 hours before an hour and a half walk home.
Catholic Europe
21-07-2005, 14:36
Apparently, the man from Warren Street has gone into UCH....which is why armed police went in there.
Jtnibbles
21-07-2005, 14:40
Apparently there are unexploded bombs or something. And some of the news channel say the police have caught the guy they chased into UCH. THe police seem really worried and are "aggressively keeping people away".
Findecano Calaelen
21-07-2005, 14:40
Apparently, the man from Warren Street has gone into UCH....which is why armed police went in there.
the shooter??
Volvonce
21-07-2005, 14:42
an eye witness a while ago said he saw a man with short,shaved hair, asian looking running away from people out of a station i think it was Warren street. another said they looked British
Lacadaemon
21-07-2005, 14:42
Apparently there are unexploded bombs or something. And some of the news channel say the police have caught the guy they chased into UCH.

That's good. If they get I live one, they can probably sweat a lot of info out of him. Maybe this will lead to a lot of arrests.
Catholic Europe
21-07-2005, 14:42
Apparently, there was a struggle on a tube with a man carrying a rucksack.
Laerod
21-07-2005, 14:43
That's good. If they get I live one, they can probably sweat a lot of info out of him. Maybe this will lead to a lot of arrests.
Unless its an imitator...
Lacadaemon
21-07-2005, 14:44
Unless its an imitator...

I find that unlikely. But it is possible.
Catholic Europe
21-07-2005, 14:44
an eye witness a while ago said he saw a man with short,shaved hair, asian looking running away from people out of a station i think it was Warren street. another said they looked British

Could be racists. Combat 18 (David Copeland) used nail bombs. And they could be hoping to start of a race war or something like that.

Or the man could be a convert because he would under least suspicion as he would not be an Asian Muslim.

Who knows?!
Kradlumania
21-07-2005, 14:48
We're starting to hear that UCH is being evacuated and there are sniffer dogs in the basement. Nothing confirmed yet.
Wegason
21-07-2005, 14:49
Scotland Yard confirms that officers put out in full protective gear at all stations. Oval is clear of chemical/biological incident according to Scotland Yard.
Kradlumania
21-07-2005, 14:50
Official from UCH chief nurse:

Police have asked that you be on the lookout for a
Male Black possibly Asian person 6'02" TALL
Blue top + hole in rear of top with wires protruding from it
77Seven77
21-07-2005, 14:50
Just had a news flash from BBC:

Met police cheif says Tube and Bus blast "very serious" and tells Londeners to stay where you are"
Jtnibbles
21-07-2005, 14:52
Can anyone see a pattern here the police seem to have been more alert all day (well if you belive the media) and it 2 weeks to the day of the last explosions. 4 bombs again, 3 on trains 1 on a bus? I am it bit freaked now.
Wurzelmania
21-07-2005, 14:53
Are not police usually armed?

We are a civilized people. The police only wear sidearms in a CT stituation or a particularly violent incident.
Carnivorous Lickers
21-07-2005, 14:55
I'm in the US watching all the major news channels-its not really clear exactly what happened, but Prime Minister Blair is supposed to make a statement shortly.
I truly hope this attack is no where near the magnitude of the last one. My sincere best wishes to all friends in London. I hope you are all out of harm's way and your loved ones are safe.
Volvonce
21-07-2005, 14:55
Can anyone see a pattern here the police seem to have been more alert all day (well if you belive the media) and it 2 weeks to the day of the last explosions. 4 bombs again, 3 on trains 1 on a bus? I am it bit freaked now.

'luckily' this time it has come over less serious maybe done by amateurs, only one injury, and noone in the bus.
Bierernstian
21-07-2005, 14:55
Scotland Yard confirms that officers put out in full protective gear at all stations. Oval is clear of chemical/biological incident according to Scotland Yard.
They had that last time as well:
http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,490375,00.jpg
Jtnibbles
21-07-2005, 14:58
Official from UCH chief nurse:

Police have asked that you be on the lookout for a
Male Black possibly Asian person 6'02" TALL
Blue top + hole in rear of top with wires protruding from it


Show you about terroriests they try a kill you and when their wepons malfunction they go running to the hospital the taxes of the people they kill pay for! They "Hate" the west but there not afraid to try to use our health service.
The odd one
21-07-2005, 14:59
Official from UCH chief nurse:

Police have asked that you be on the lookout for a
Male Black possibly Asian person 6'02" TALL
Blue top + hole in rear of top with wires protruding from it
probably a corresponding hole in the rucksack so whatever bomb etcx was in the bag could be activated without too much suspicios behaviour.
Jtnibbles
21-07-2005, 15:06
probably a corresponding hole in the rucksack so whatever bomb etcx was in the bag could be activated without too much suspicios behaviour.

Yeah the news said "Blue top with hole in it with wires protruding"
Dragons Bay
21-07-2005, 15:08
Wow...this isn't making me feel better. Dastardly terrorists. Cowards. Sickoes. Oogle.

:sniper:
77Seven77
21-07-2005, 15:09
We are a civilized people. The police only wear sidearms in a CT stituation or a particularly violent incident.

that made me giggle - not appropriate, but still .....
Kradlumania
21-07-2005, 15:10
The decontamination shower has been taken down.
Carnivorous Lickers
21-07-2005, 15:14
The decontamination shower has been taken down.


Thats a good piece of news. I hope there is more.

On a side note, I'm glad officials there seem to be prepared for other contingencies.
Drunk commies deleted
21-07-2005, 15:16
I'm glad nobody was seriously injured. I hope the authorities catch the scum that did this and use them to track down the rest of the vermin. Good luck and good hunting to the London police and British intelligence services.
Kradlumania
21-07-2005, 15:18
Police and firecrew seem to be just standing around drinking coffee and eating cakes.
Volvonce
21-07-2005, 15:22
well noone seems to care as much...one injury, smoke coming out fo one tube station, it doesnt seem to be anything major.
Jtnibbles
21-07-2005, 15:25
They just arrested someone at the end of Downing Street! Some Asian guy they were all pointing guns at him and he had his shirt undone!
New Burmesia
21-07-2005, 15:28
well noone seems to care as much...one injury, smoke coming out fo one tube station, it doesnt seem to be anything major.

Yeah, most of the stuff the police are doing is maintaining law & order, not extensive investigation. There haven't benn many ambulances, either.

Hope nothing else happens...
Volvonce
21-07-2005, 15:29
yeah man arrested right next to downing street, he didn't have anything on him.
Jtnibbles
21-07-2005, 15:30
Forget law and order the way it going we might as well kiss the last of our civil liberties goodbye.
Volvonce
21-07-2005, 15:32
yeah, lok on the conspiracy sites loads of stuff about how the london bombings were staged, actually seems really easy for the gvt.
Jtnibbles
21-07-2005, 15:34
yeah, lok on the conspiracy sites loads of stuff about how the london bombings were staged, actually seems really easy for the gvt.

Damn right. By the way there a picture of the the police marksman aim at the guy at

http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-1189833,00.html
New Burmesia
21-07-2005, 15:39
Forget law and order the way it going we might as well kiss the last of our civil liberties goodbye.

Blair will just use this as an excuse to push whatever draconian legislation he wants through.

I wish they'd get Blair and/or Howard than ordianry Londoners. :rolleyes:
Jtnibbles
21-07-2005, 15:46
Blair will just use this as an excuse to push whatever draconian legislation he wants through.

I wish they'd get Blair and/or Howard than ordianry Londoners. :rolleyes:

Yeah, who did this terrorist, the goverment, "The Man" whatever we all Fucked! What do they say, "Ingnorance is bliss" am much happier when You can Ignore the secret rulers and evils of the world!
Seosavists
21-07-2005, 15:47
Forget law and order the way it going we might as well kiss the last of our civil liberties goodbye.
Can name one that you have lost? Can you name one that you will completely lose because of planned legislation after the london bombings? (I say completely in case you say free speech because you can't "incite terrorism")
Jtnibbles
21-07-2005, 15:49
Can name one that you have lost? Can you name one that you will completely lose because of planned legislation after the london bombings? (I say completely in case you say free speech because you can't "incite terrorism")


Not me specifically, but what about people who jailed for years without trail etc. and thing are only going to get worse.
Seosavists
21-07-2005, 16:04
Being a bit melodramatic wheren't you. I agree it shouldn't happen but I don't think it's getting worse. Not that you hear enough about it.
El Porro
21-07-2005, 16:21
Heard about it on the radio at work, as I was sweeping the floor. The first we heard was that there was an 'incident', then the details started coming through..

So, two weeks, two thursdays, what point exactly are they trying to make?

Now, I'm actually quite pissed off. What the blue cunting fuck makes people think they can dick around with the city I live in? In the name of some warped mindpiss cult too! Fuck off you psychotic bastards, leave us alone! If you wanna commit suicide then good, the world will thank you for it, but piss off and do it under the rock you crawled out from under!

Rant over, calm restored.
Myrmidonisia
21-07-2005, 17:53
London has suffered eight bombings in two separate attacks. There isn't any end in sight and the police aren't able to stop the terrorists. I think the British are faced with two choices.

The first choice and probably the easiest one would be to follow in the footsteps of the Spanish. Just leave Iraq and buy a few years of relative security.

The second choice is to pursue the criminals relentlessly. First, and we should do this in the U.S. too, is to realize that giving young Arab males special scrutiny isn't profiling anymore. If anyone is to be serious about finding and stopping terrorists, they must realize that this isn't a racial issue, it's a description of a suspect. Only when this politically correct attitude is overcome can we make any progress toward ferreting out the terrorists among us.
[NS]Bluestrips2
21-07-2005, 18:25
London has suffered eight bombings in two separate attacks. There isn't any end in sight and the police aren't able to stop the terrorists. I think the British are faced with two choices.

The first choice and probably the easiest one would be to follow in the footsteps of the Spanish. Just leave Iraq and buy a few years of relative security.

The second choice is to pursue the criminals relentlessly. First, and we should do this in the U.S. too, is to realize that giving young Arab males special scrutiny isn't profiling anymore. If anyone is to be serious about finding and stopping terrorists, they must realize that this isn't a racial issue, it's a description of a suspect. Only when this politically correct attitude is overcome can we make any progress toward ferreting out the terrorists among us.

Removing the troops is a bad idea..

1) We would be giving into them, if they use such extremes theres obviously something bad they are doing IRAQ ( killing kids day in and day out ?)

2) Iraq needs policing we would be turning our backs on innocent people !
Markreich
21-07-2005, 18:40
http://i.timeinc.net/time/cartoons/20050708/1.jpg

...That about says it all.




http://www.mikelynaugh.com/SupportTheTroops/Thumbs/tn_IMG_3567.jpg
Liverbreath
21-07-2005, 19:07
Well all I can say is thank heaven and warm weather for bad chemists! There is a good chance that they can get some good information from the unexploded devices. (As long as they didn't burn entirely)
Sizjam
21-07-2005, 19:16
Musharreff moves against millitantism:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/4702609.stm


he's right though, we do need to do something about it here as well
Celtlund
21-07-2005, 19:20
London has suffered eight bombings in two separate attacks. There isn't any end in sight and the police aren't able to stop the terrorists. I think the British are faced with two choices.

The first choice and probably the easiest one would be to follow in the footsteps of the Spanish. Just leave Iraq and buy a few years of relative security.

The second choice is to pursue the criminals relentlessly. First, and we should do this in the U.S. too, is to realize that giving young Arab males special scrutiny isn't profiling anymore. If anyone is to be serious about finding and stopping terrorists, they must realize that this isn't a racial issue, it's a description of a suspect. Only when this politically correct attitude is overcome can we make any progress toward ferreting out the terrorists among us.

The first choice is not an option. Giving in to the terrorsts will not stop them.

The second option is the realistic one, but will take time. I also agree whith what you are saying about profiling. If purple smirfs were doing it, it wouldn't make sence to look for green gorillas.
Aryavartha
21-07-2005, 19:26
Musharreff moves against millitantism:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/4702609.stm


he's right though, we do need to do something about it here as well


From the link
Pakistan's president has urged Britain to do more to tackle its own militancy threat following the London bombings.

LOL. That is his way of hinting that he has no control over the jihadis who did this and warning that there may be more such jihadis in Britain planning such things whom he is not aware of and is in no position to catch.

Sure enough, there were some copycat attempts..

There has been some reports that they were dummy devices but now some other reports say that they were not dummy devices with a detonator as earlier reported but actual bombs which failed to explode. Acetone peroxide traces have been confirmed on the bus device.

So , it means that there are still explosives caches somewhere that jihadis can draw from and there are no dearth of jihadis in UK.

Me fears there will be more to come.
The Great Sixth Reich
21-07-2005, 19:30
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8655541

One injury. No chemical agents found.
Kradlumania
21-07-2005, 19:33
Why profile Arab males? None of the identified London bombers have been Arab males. You can't profile Muslims by race, there are Muslims of all races in the UK.

I think the reason that the cordons around the hospital are so wide and the emergency services did not go in immediately and stayed well away is because the explosives on the trains failed to go off, so there are bags full of unstable explosives sitting there.

I just got home. Shepherds Bush is cordoned off up to 2 streets away from my house.
Aryavartha
21-07-2005, 19:35
From Stratfor

Security officials in London have confirmed four blasts (or attempted blasts) July 21 -- three in the Underground and one on a bus. The incidents come two weeks to the day after the July 7 London bombings that left 56 dead and more than 700 injured. They also come at a time when the London mass transit system is still at heightened security levels following the July 7 attacks.

At 12:38 p.m. local time, London's ambulance service responded to a call at The Oval station, located in southeast London in a fairly run-down area near a cricket ground. Witnesses report that a person with a backpack approached a train, threw the backpack on and fled as other passengers attempted to give chase. The backpack then gave off small explosions and noises that "sounded like champagne corks popping."

At 12:45 p.m. local time, emergency services responded to a call from Warren Street Station in Central London, close to businesses and upscale neighborhoods. Before the station was evacuated, passengers reported seeing smoke coming from one of the trains, and some reported seeing a backpack explode. The British Transport Police reported one injury at Warren Street but did not specify its nature; reports also indicate that police detonated suspicious items at the station as a precautionary measure. Some reports indicate a nail bomb exploded on the train.

The third incident happened at the Shepherd's Bush Station, in a west London commercial district. This incident was reportedly above ground. There were no reports of injuries at this incident.

The fourth incident was an explosion onboard a No. 26 route bus on Hackney Street near Bethnal Green station, just southwest of Victoria Park in north-central London. A bus driver reported no injuries; witnesses say windows were blown out of the bus after an explosion occurred on the upper floor of the double-decker.
Myrmidonisia
21-07-2005, 21:01
Why profile Arab males? None of the identified London bombers have been Arab males.

Not sure why you say that. Articles I've read indicate otherwise.
You can't profile Muslims by race, there are Muslims of all races in the UK.

Did I mention profiling Muslims? Or are you just trying to be helpful?
Kalmykhia
21-07-2005, 21:54
The bombers in the 7/7 attacks - three were Pakistani, one was Jamaican. I don't know if Pakistanis count as Arabs... Not by the Arab League definition. Jamaicans certainly don't.
Markreich
22-07-2005, 14:07
If guns cause crime and violence, I'm surprised that no one in the UK has called for banning backpacks, as they cause bombings. ;)
Aryavartha
22-07-2005, 16:55
I am reading reports which say that the "shelf life" of the bomb had expired and so only the detonators went off. Thank God.

If you are an "brown" colored person in Britain, it might help if you "ban" rucksacks for the time being...

Especially DON'T RUN TO CATCH THE TRAIN if you are having a rucksack. Let it go.
King Graham IV
22-07-2005, 17:27
Especially DON'T RUN TO CATCH THE TRAIN if you are having a rucksack. Let it go.

How ironic...one of the suicide bombers from yesterday or 7/7 was shot dead by British Police because he was running to the LU train this morning!

Best thing for these scum.
Catholic Europe
24-07-2005, 16:26
My mum just suggested the REAL reason for these bombs. It's Tony Blair, trying to advance the G8 summit goals, and persuading people to use bicycles!

I don't think that is, at all, an appropiate comment to make.
Markreich
24-07-2005, 16:37
I don't think that is, at all, an appropiate comment to make.

Seconded!
Dragons Bay
24-07-2005, 16:39
If guns cause crime and violence, I'm surprised that no one in the UK has called for banning backpacks, as they cause bombings. ;)

The last time I checked, bombs cause explosion, not backpacks.

They should ban clothes too, then, because Palestinians suicide bombers conceal bombs under their clothes. :)
Markreich
24-07-2005, 16:44
The last time I checked, bombs cause explosion, not backpacks.

They should ban clothes too, then, because Palestinians suicide bombers conceal bombs under their clothes. :)

Actually, the bombers detonating the device cause the explosion. Just as the bullet fired from the gun... :)

That'd cause as many problems as it would solve. :D
Dragons Bay
24-07-2005, 16:58
Actually, the bombers detonating the device cause the explosion. Just as the bullet fired from the gun... :)

That'd cause as many problems as it would solve. :D

The only solution is to kill everybody so:

a) nobody's there to detonate bombs or fire guns.

b) nobody's around so clothes would be redundant.
Kalmykhia
24-07-2005, 20:58
I don't think that is, at all, an appropiate comment to make.
Apologies. Especially to anyone who has been affected by these bombings. My sense of humour is probably not the most compassionate, and best not released on an unsuspecting public. I will now edit my post to remove the offensive joke, and ask those who quoted it to remove it also. Apologies once again to anyone I may have hurt.