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I just read this article and it hit me that this might be the begining of a more stable, less American dominated world, and hopefully stem the rise of the Chinese.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4698027.stm

What do you think?

interesting.........
there's a good idea in there somewhere, i just hope they don't over-do it.

I fail to see how Nationalism (often the logical extension of patriotism) will create a better world.
It seems more akin to indoctrination to me.

I just read this article and it hit me that this might be the begining of a more stable, less American dominated world, and hopefully stem the rise of the Chinese.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4698027.stm

What do you think?

Hm... are we talking about the same article? At this link I find a very interesting article, but it's about the patriotism-program of Vladimir Putin in Russia, nothing abput Chinese...

It's absolutely normalising - back into the standard multi-polar pre-WWII/Cold-War world model (as opposed to the abnormal bi/tripolar model of the cold war). This is not new - it's been going on for nearly 15 years now.

I just read this article and it hit me that this might be the begining of a more stable, less American dominated world, and hopefully stem the rise of the Chinese.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4698027.stm

What do you think?

What do they meen by "correct reproductive behaviour"?

Hm... are we talking about the same article? At this link I find a very interesting article, but it's about the patriotism-program of Vladimir Putin in Russia, nothing abput Chinese...
maybe russia's 'patriotisation' will encourage other countries (including china) to take more pride in their own country and encourage patriotism/ national pride.

maybe russia's 'patriotisation' will encourage other countries (including china) to take more pride in their own country and encourage patriotism/ national pride.

And how would that be a good thing?

Hm... are we talking about the same article? At this link I find a very interesting article, but it's about the patriotism-program of Vladimir Putin in Russia, nothing abput Chinese...


Sorry, I should have made my thoughts clearer! Russia has been in the doldrums for the best part of 15 years, before that it was THE dominating political/Military force in the world for 70 years; in terms of the West, the US made so much of its own justification for being a superpower about being opposed to Soviet ideology. At any rate, now Putin, in an attempt to justify his position as President (an probably because he is a product of such a system) is trying to revive the patriotic sentiments of Russia's population. What does this mean in Global political term? Well the strengthening of Russia forces China to think regionally rather than globaly - hopefully resulting in them interfering less in places like my home country. Also a Russian revival will mean that Europe will be less inclined to follow in the US's wake, and more likely to look east.

And how would that be a good thing?
i never said it was either good or bad, simply that it has the potential to be good (or bad). although the similarity to the 'russification' carried out under the Czars, and the hints of hitler-jugend style 'military games' is definitely a bit scary.

i never said it was either good or bad, simply that it has the potential to be good (or bad). although the similarity to the 'russification' carried out under the Czars, and the hints of hitler-jugend style 'military games' is definitely a bit scary.

I'm sorry if I misinterpretted your original post. I agree about the millitary games comment, it could give the young russians a very aggressive mindset.

I'm sorry if I misinterpretted your original post.
my fault really, :rolleyes: it's a lot more positive than i intended. :)

What do they meen by "correct reproductive behaviour"?
You know, say "please" and "thank you."

Good for Russia, it's about time!

What do they meen by "correct reproductive behaviour"?

Probably don't be gay. And have children. Commie are keen on those sorts of things.

Problem is that Russia is fundamentally knackered. I think they are probably just going to go back to being commies, because the whole freedom thing hasn't worked out for them.

Feel sorry for everyone in "rebellious areas" though. That's a quick trip to siberia that is.

What do they meen by "correct reproductive behaviour"?

Sex education.

I see nothing wrong with promoting patriotism. Russia has a lot to be proud of; they are a hard working people with many accomplishments. They have many things to be proud of and if this campaign helps strengthen and unify the country, there is nothing wrong with that. However, they must be careful they don't carry it to far, like the Hitler youth.

Perhaps more countries should promote patriotism.

I see nothing wrong with promoting patriotism. Russia has a lot to be proud of; they are a hard working people with many accomplishments. They have many things to be proud of and if this campaign helps strengthen and unify the country, there is nothing wrong with that. However, they must be careful they don't carry it to far, like the Hitler youth.

Perhaps more countries should promote patriotism.
i think this is the most important point. pride in one's own country is good but "uber-nationalism" is something that should be avoided.

Sex education.

It should probably be mentioned that Russia has a spiraling AIDS problem, quickly spreading throughout the Russian youth. STDs of all kinds are liable to be spreading, but Russian public attitudes towards safe sex are still very ignorant on the whole. This is probably an attempt to remedy that.

Also, Putin's Russia hasn't been doing so well in this last couple of years. He's still fairly popular, but his government in general isn't. The patriotism drive might be simply an attempt to divert critisim from the government.

Also, Putin's Russia hasn't been doing so well in this last couple of years. He's still fairly popular, but his government in general isn't. The patriotism drive might be simply an attempt to divert critisim from the government.
Absolutely. It could also drum up support for him that has been sorely lacking after the Chechen attacks on Beslan. A more nationalistic people are more likely to support the extreme measures that Putin favours when dealing with the Chechens in particular.

Absolutely. It could also drum up support for him that has been sorely lacking after the Chechen attacks on Beslan. A more nationalistic people are more likely to support the extreme measures that Putin favours when dealing with the Chechens in particular.
so it is just a modern 'russification.' :rolleyes: :(