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Now that I have your attention... ^_^

Which Bush do you think is/was the better President?
Theres not much else to say...

And yes, I do take a perverse pleasure in creating a poll where George Bush is the only option ;)

I like the one whose lips I can read honestly when he says "No new taxes!" :D

Moore's no fool, and neither am I--Poppy was a far better President than King George the Lesser is. Of course, that's not saying much, as Poppy was pretty useless, but useless is a damn sight better than destructive, and that's what Dubya is.

The old one, he could at least speak clearly. He didn't choke on snack foods either.

Moore's no fool, and neither am I--Poppy was a far better President than King George the Lesser is. Of course, that's not saying much, as Poppy was pretty useless, but useless is a damn sight better than destructive, and that's what Dubya is.



Poppy? King George the Lesser? I see someone's read Bushworld ;)

Poppy? King George the Lesser? I see someone's read Bushworld ;)
Actually, I haven't, although I love Molly Ivins. Poppy was George H W Bush's nickname for a long time, so I picked it up a long time ago, and King George the Lesser was my own invention. Looks like someone else might have come up with it independently.

Sr. - In fact I had no real problems with him. His son I would surely like to give a swift kick in the ass too but would never do so(got that secret service?).

The old one, he could at least speak clearly. He didn't choke on snack foods either.

Funny thing, every Human being I have ever known has choked on their food at some point or another. :eek:

Jr. He has the balls to get into Iraq and try and fix it up. If Pops had done that, we'd be in much less of a mess.

Bush Sr. was certainly much less extreme and actually made himself a hero with Iraq. Pity how he left so many loose ends for his son.

The old one, he could at least speak clearly. He didn't choke on snack foods either.

Yup but didn't poppy toss his cookies at a state function in Japan? ;)

Jr. He has the balls to get into Iraq and try and fix it up.

I don't know, how much balls does it take to send "other" people's kids to die while you're the most protected man in the world?

Just not how I understand the term "balls" is all.

I don't know, how much balls does it take to send "other" people's kids to die while you're the most protected man in the world?

Just not how I understand the term "balls" is all.

"Balls" to face up to the millions of angry people who would answer like that. ;)

Yup but didn't poppy toss his cookies at a state function in Japan? ;)
That he did, and he wasn't particularly adept with language either, although he didn't quite mangle it to the extent his son does. Molly Ivins has some Poppy classics in her collections of columns.

Moore's no fool, and neither am I--Poppy was a far better President than King George the Lesser is. Of course, that's not saying much, as Poppy was pretty useless, but useless is a damn sight better than destructive, and that's what Dubya is.
"King George the Lesser!" ROFLMAO!!! Good one! :D

The First bush has always been my favorite Pres. he was V.P. when i was born!!

"Balls" to face up to the millions of angry people who would answer like that. ;)

Heh. Well said. Clinton had the "balls" to bomb Iraq. But he didn't do shit. Saddam didn't leave. Clinton couldn't do what Bush did, help establish a democracy.

Heh. Well said. Clinton had the "balls" to bomb Iraq. But he didn't do shit. Saddam didn't leave. Clinton couldn't do what Bush did, help establish a democracy.Don't count your democracies before they survive a civil war and the end of a foreign occupation, not necessarily in that order.

Burning Bush

http://www.davidicdance.com/images/burning%20bush1.jpg

Well, my opinion is that at least Bush Sr. fought in WW II, and he didn't cut taxes in the middle of a war and instead raised them which (if I remember correctly from US His. II), ironically, was his one of his main causes to loosing the '92 elections.

He didn't use the "My daddy is a senator and I'm a rich prat. I dunna wanna go to Vietnam war! I wanna do drugs and get arrested for DUI!" excuse to get himself out of war.

"My daddy was the president. I can do what I wanna." Don't think he had that type of an attitude either

Though, addmitidly Bush Jr. has slightly improved in his second term.

I like the one whose lips I can read honestly when he says "No new taxes!" :D
Moore's no fool, and neither am I--Poppy was a far better President than King George the Lesser is. Of course, that's not saying much, as Poppy was pretty useless, but useless is a damn sight better than destructive, and that's what Dubya is.And that's all there is to say about that. :D
Clinton couldn't do what Bush did, help establish a democracy.Haiti and Kosovo.
And he did both the proper way. With the approval of the UN, NATO and you name it.

Seriously, some liberals need to just take some pills! I admit that Dubya has made some bad moves, but you all act like he's doing everything "just to get oil and kill brown people". Wake up a bit. Nobodys perfect, nobodys gonna do EVERYTHING right. And it really erks me that people are pissed at him, but they forget we are fighting people who blow up children ON PURPOSE !!!!!!
We may miss once in a great while, but they do it ON PURPOSE !!!!!! You Liberals (some of you, not all) need to start hating the right people, quit listening to conspiracy theorys, and grow up just a bit. This world isn't all candy and bubbles. People get hurt, people die. Should it be us, or the terrorists?

You know what, Sick Dreams--I'd be happier if Dubya had gotten even one thing right in his 5+ years in office. I'm easy to satisfy.

They are both equally horrible. I refuse to vote.
The older Bush was smarter, I'll give him that.

They are both equally horrible. I refuse to vote.
The older Bush was smarter, I'll give him that.my thoughts exactly.

You know what, Sick Dreams--I'd be happier if Dubya had gotten even one thing right in his 5+ years in office. I'm easy to satisfy.
Your only easy to satisfy when you get things your way! Poor old Dubya has to spend 8 years cleaning up Clintons "legacy", and all you can do is blame it all on him? Remember this. "The ripples always hit the shore well after the stones been cast into the pond"

Your only easy to satisfy when you get things your way! Poor old Dubya has to spend 8 years cleaning up Clintons "legacy", Oh you mean all those billions in surpluss budgets right? :rolleyes:

Your only easy to satisfy when you get things your way! Poor old Dubya has to spend 8 years cleaning up Clintons "legacy", and all you can do is blame it all on him? Remember this. "The ripples always hit the shore well after the stones been cast into the pond"
Given a choice, I'd gladly relive Clinton's eight years rather than the eight we'll get under this mental midget.

They're the same guy. I swear.

It's all trick photography and overdubbing.

Oh you mean all those billions in surpluss budgets right? :rolleyes:
No, I think your refering to Bush Sr.'s Legacy
Legacy: leg·a·cy
Something handed down from an ancestor or a predecessor or from the past

No, I think your refering to Bush Sr.'s Legacy
Legacy: leg·a·cy
Something handed down from an ancestor or a predecessor or from the past
Ummm--Bush Sr. handed down what was, at the time, the record for the largest deficit in US history. His son beat the record--stomped it into the ground more than once, as a matter of fact. That's one thing the two have in common--neither knew how to run an economy, unlike the man who came in the middle of them.

Sr. and Jr. both went to war with Iraq, but for different reasons. Sr. attacked Iraq and drove them back out of Kuwait, which had been invaded. It was motivated by what would happen to oil prices, but he also had a very real justification for the invasion, the actual ground action of which, was completely over in less than a week.

Jr. rushed through acting on trumped up claims of WMD's and a threat to "Amurica" to invade and occupy another country. It was completely motiveted by oil, and had no solid justification when later examined.

You tell me which was worse.

No, I think your refering to Bush Sr.'s Legacy
Legacy: leg·a·cy
Something handed down from an ancestor or a predecessor or from the pastI have no clue what you are trying to say... all I know is that no President named Bush ever had a surpluss budget. Clinton had several.

Sr. and Jr. both went to war with Iraq, but for different reasons. Sr. attacked Iraq and drove them back out of Kuwait, which had been invaded. It was motivated by what would happen to oil prices, but he also had a very real justification for the invasion, the actual ground action of which, was completely over in less than a week.

Jr. rushed through acting on trumped up claims of WMD's and a threat to "Amurica" to invade and occupy another country. It was completely motiveted by oil, and had no solid justification when later examined.

You tell me which was worse.
OOH OOH OOOH I KNOW!!!!!!!! :D

Ummm--Bush Sr. handed down what was, at the time, the record for the largest deficit in US history. His son beat the record--stomped it into the ground more than once, as a matter of fact. That's one thing the two have in common--neither knew how to run an economy, unlike the man who came in the middle of them.
I rest my case. For me the presidents in terms of their capability to govern and create prosperity, putting personal tidbits and other issues aside, will always be FDR and Clinton.

I have no clue what you are trying to say... all I know is that no President named Bush ever had a surpluss budget. Clinton had several.
I'm tryin to say that Bill "bigger redneck than most republicans"Clinton, did a fine job of running the nation if it was an eight year marathon. Trouble is that running a country involves looking decades ahead. I could care less what people think of Dubya right now, but I know who will be muttering under their breath in 20 years when people are saying "Damn! He was right! Holy Shit!" All Clinton did was raise taxes, then say "Look! Our bank account is HUGE!" Bush said "HHMMMMM, people might still be around in 20 years. Better invest in the future, and kick the shit out of some bad people." I DON'T EVEN CARED IF HE DID LIE! (which I doubt) I say lets go to Iran next. Then North Korea. Then China! Bomb the shit outta them till they quit 1)Threatening our nation 2)Beheading people 3) Blowing up people. Lifes a bitch. Might as well be on top of the pile!

I DON'T EVEN CARED IF HE DID LIE! (which I doubt) I say lets go to Iran next. Then North Korea. Then China! Bomb the shit outta them till they quit 1)Threatening our nation 2)Beheading people 3) Blowing up people. Lifes a bitch. Might as well be on top of the pile!Perhaps if it had to be you on those front lines dodging bullets... you might think differently. If you're gonna send my countrymen to war it better as hell be for an honest reason.

another thing... Iraq had never threatened Americans until Americans stepped in.



If that is how you truly feel then you and I are two very different people.

I DON'T EVEN CARED IF HE DID LIE! (which I doubt) I say lets go to Iran next. Then North Korea. Then China! Bomb the shit outta them till they quit 1)Threatening our nation 2)Beheading people 3) Blowing up people. Lifes a bitch. Might as well be on top of the pile!

No one in Iraq, Iran, North Korea or China was:

1) Threatening our nation

2) Beheading people

3) Blowing people up

until Bush invaded Iraq. Now the middle east is one giant, anti-american, terrorist-recruiting shitstorm. China hasn't been anti American since the 70's and North Korea is only a direct threat to Japan, South Korea, China and Russia, as those are the only nations their missiles can reach.

No one in Iraq, Iran, North Korea or China was:

1) Threatening our nation

2) Beheading people

3) Blowing people up

until Bush invaded Iraq. Now the middle east is one giant, anti-american, terrorist-recruiting shitstorm. China hasn't been anti American since the 70's and North Korea is only a direct threat to Japan, South Korea, China and Russia, as those are the only nations their missiles can reach.




China had threatened to nuke LA if we interfered in Taiwan (Ok, a hawkish general did, but still....), NK threatened to turn America into "a sea of fire" if we ever considered military action against them, Iran has wanted us dead ever since the 70's, and Iraq has hated us ever since the Gulf War.

No one in Iraq, Iran, North Korea or China was:

1) Threatening our nation

2) Beheading people

3) Blowing people up

until Bush invaded Iraq. Now the middle east is one giant, anti-american, terrorist-recruiting shitstorm. China hasn't been anti American since the 70's and North Korea is only a direct threat to Japan, South Korea, China and Russia, as those are the only nations their missiles can reach.
And I dare to add that European anti-americanism but more precisely anti-bushism has never been so omnipresent as today.

Perhaps if it had to be you on those front lines dodging bullets... you might think differently. If you're gonna send my countrymen to war it better as hell be for an honest reason.

Perhaps you should know that I had family memebers who were involved in the Iraq war. (Marines) You should also know that I think its truly self righteous, andegotistical of you to think that you know better than your entire government, military, and all who serve in it! People make choices in life. They join the military to fight wars, and they serve honorably, or they join to go to college, and learn the meaning of "no such thing as a free ride!"

North Korea is only a direct threat to Japan, South Korea, China and Russia, as those are the only nations their missiles can reach.
North Korea can hit Americas western shore. Learn,think,post. In that order please?

North Korea can hit Americas western shore. Learn,think,post. In that order please?
So...why did we invade Iraq if N Korea was an actual threat to America?

So...why did we invade Iraq if N Korea was an actual threat to America?



Our military is spread very thin. We can only maintain one major operation at a time.

Perhaps you should know that I had family memebers who were involved in the Iraq war. (Marines) You should also know that I think its truly self righteous, andegotistical of you to think that you know better than your entire government, military, and all who serve in it!Do you still honestly think that Iraq has WMD's?
I don't believe so, and that automatically puts me in dissagreement with the US goverment. It is a citizen's right to question one's government. Not a question of ego. They've been up and down the country looking desperatly for WMD's I'm sure they would've found something if there had been in fact something to be found to begin with.

I repeat... I believe the Iraq war was wrong. It was based on a lie and I don't give a fuck if you think I'm egotistical.

Our military is spread very thin. We can only maintain one major operation at a time.
lol, thanks for ignoring my point. It was a half joke anyway. :rolleyes:

*puffs*

same guy!

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Jr. He has the balls to get into Iraq and try and fix it up.
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Balls? Yes!
Brain? No!

In the words of a great song:


Fuck you very much dear Mr. Bush
For heroically sitting on your tush...

So...why did we invade Iraq if N Korea was an actual threat to America?

Because NK was a threat. What would Bush be able to do if he go the east coast nuked? Nuke back? Think again mate.

Balls? Yes!
Brain? No!

I sincerely hope he doesn't play Warmachine.

Play like you got a pair

Yup but didn't poppy toss his cookies at a state function in Japan? ;)


He was exceedingly ill with a stomach virus. He insisted on attending as it was important to him not to offend his hosts. He tried too hard.

Your only easy to satisfy when you get things your way! Poor old Dubya has to spend 8 years cleaning up Clintons "legacy", and all you can do is blame it all on him? Remember this. "The ripples always hit the shore well after the stones been cast into the pond"
So that means that we can expect a tsunami when Bush leaves office? Oh no, it already happened while he was in office.....

So that means that we can expect a tsunami when Bush leaves office? Oh no, it already happened while he was in office.....




Yes, because Bush has a super-secret doomsday weapon that can manipulate the very forces of nature to cause quakes and tsunamis :rolleyes:

Well, my opinion is that at least Bush Sr. fought in WW II, and

If I'm not mistaken, at the time ,President George Bush Sr. was the youngest Navy pilot. He was shot down TWICE. One time he was rescued by a submarine.

Yes, because Bush has a super-secret doomsday weapon that can manipulate the very forces of nature to cause quakes and tsunamis :rolleyes:

I suspected as much. Thankfully Bush buys all his supplies from ACME and "Coyote" has already bought all their best stuff! *LOL* :p

Well where did you think the patriot missile came from in the first Gulf War? lol

Then China! Bomb the shit outta them till they quit 1)Threatening our nation 2)Beheading people 3) Blowing up people. Lifes a bitch. Might as well be on top of the pile!
You are just a warmonger? What has China done to you to incur such hatred?

With your comments, your credibility meter goes to zero.

King George the LESSER!!!
http://www.rosecity.net/rushtoon/king_george_bush.gif

Thanks for the idea Nazz!!

Too soon to tell. Bush I, IMO, was a better man, and better at managing an economy (and building a coalition), but Dubya has opened up a big can of whoop***, which very few Presidents can claim they have done.
Get back to me in 10 years. :p

Ass.

Whoop-ass.

To combat his droop-ass.

Ass.

I reluctantly prefer Bush, Jr for doing the job in Iraq where his dad didn't.

I don't know, how much balls does it take to send "other" people's kids to die while you're the most protected man in the world?

Just not how I understand the term "balls" is all.
These damn right-wingers reduce everything to a testosterone contest.

I'd like to know if there's any correlation between 'War-time presidencies' and male-pattern sexual dysfunction.