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why does a moment of clarity cause so much confusion? is it because it is only a moment, there for a minute and then gone forever?

Now, your mistake is -- obviously -- in that you equate gods and goddeses with reason. Surely some represent this faculty of the mind, but some are also those who emanate irrationality, emotion, will power etc.

Therefore perhaps you are trying to seize the Kairos of rationality as the sole "truth" (and, of course, you will NOT be able to), whereas you let the opportunities of godly manifestation in chaos -- rather than a hierarchical cosmos you fancy -- escape you.

Now, your mistake is -- obviously -- in that you equate gods and goddeses with reason. Surely some represent this faculty of the mind, but some are also those who emanate irrationality, emotion, will power etc.

Therefore perhaps you are trying to seize the Kairos of rationality as the sole "truth" (and, of course, you will NOT be able to), whereas you let the opportunities of godly manifestation in chaos -- rather than a hierarchical cosmos you fancy -- escape you.
so, basically, there is no one absolute truth, and the confusion that can stem from the revelation of a truth is a result of the other conflicting truths that exist?

another problem as i see it is that one part of the truth can become clear, with more important parts remaining obscured. for example, one suddenly realises with absolute certainty what one's problems are, which is completey useless unless the solution to those problems can be found.

Pretty much. I had one last year, left me really confused about who I am in some ways. I'm Christian but I find myself wondering a lot what the 'rules' are.

If an epiphany is confusing, it isn't an epiphany.

BTW: There is only one truth, anyone that says otherwise just doesn’t know what it is :p

Ph33rdom is correct. If you truly had an epiphany, it cleared up your confusion rather than caused it.

I had an epiphany quite recently (note the sigy). I wasn’t confused at all. Because of it, I now consider myself a Libertarian.

Pretty much. I had one last year, left me really confused about who I am in some ways. I'm Christian but I find myself wondering a lot what the 'rules' are.

Start reading the Bible, and the New Testament everyday. That's what it's for. Also, start going to a church near you and utliize the Sunday school program or join whatever bible study group they have going on.

If an epiphany is confusing, it isn't an epiphany.

i often come up with confusing concepts like this that strike as if they are some kind of revelation, but they turn out to be completely pointless, but they keep me amused.

exmaple; i recently got thinking about how the center of attention can surround you. :confused:

so, basically, there is no one absolute truth, and the confusion that can stem from the revelation of a truth is a result of the other conflicting truths that exist?

another problem as i see it is that one part of the truth can become clear, with more important parts remaining obscured. for example, one suddenly realises with absolute certainty what one's problems are, which is completey useless unless the solution to those problems can be found.
Epiphany means the apparition of a goddess or a god before a non-goddess/non-god.

It may involve the cognition of what the non-godly individual considers as "revelation of truth", but does not necessarily have to involve that.


If an epiphany is confusing, it isn't an epiphany.

BTW: There is only one truth, anyone that says otherwise just doesn’t know what it is

Only mentally deranged indivuduals -- such as Osama Bin laden, George W.Bush, Moammar Qaddafi or the late Mao Ze Dong (also spelled Tse Tung) -- can believe that there is only one truth for the whole cosmos (or at least for all humanity), and that it is they themselves -- each of them believes only he himself -- have the possession of this allegedly ultimate truth.

Of course everything is relative. And that is a Divine Principle. ONE OF many.

I agree. The general usage of the word 'epiphany' means a moment of clarity and expanded understanding. If you are confused, then it isn't an epiphany.

I also must agree that anyone who claims to be in possession of the One Truth is severely deluded, especially if he doesnt realize that the One Truth contains all truths...

everone is in possession of a piece of the Truth, and only by the totality of all truths is the One Truth fully realized. The exclusion of anyone else's truth would automatically nullify the claim of being the One Truth.

Epiphany means the apparition of a goddess or a god before a non-goddess/non-god.

It may involve the cognition of what the non-godly individual considers as "revelation of truth", but does not necessarily have to involve that.


thank you for the clarification, although the widespread misuse of the word could be said to have led to the incorrect definition becoming generally acceptable, similar to the use of the word 'ironic' which is now applied to poignant things.


Only mentally deranged indivuduals -- such as Osama Bin laden, George W.Bush, Moammar Qaddafi or the late Mao Ze Dong (also spelled Tse Tung) -- can believe that there is only one truth for the whole cosmos (or at least for all humanity), and that it is they themselves -- each of them believes only he himself -- have the possession of this allegedly ultimate truth.

Of course everything is relative. And that is a Divine Principle. ONE OF many.
i whole-heartedly agree.

Start reading the Bible, and the New Testament everyday. That's what it's for. Also, start going to a church near you and utliize the Sunday school program or join whatever bible study group they have going on.

I do. However there are dozens of conflicting interpretations from the hardliner Jerry Falwell end to the ultra-liberal end of FURY (misnomer really but we do like the name). Personally I tend to listen to my feelings more now.

Thing is though even Jesus got confused after his epiphany, if you are never confused after one then you are blessed indeed. Or nuts.

I agree. The general usage of the word 'epiphany' means a moment of clarity and expanded understanding. If you are confused, then it isn't an epiphany.

i would argue that confusion is a method to encourage the person involved to further the expanded understanding that results from the initial moment of clarity. also, one cannot underestimate the massive influence of denial. :D

I do. However there are dozens of conflicting interpretations from the hardliner Jerry Falwell end to the ultra-liberal end of FURY (misnomer really but we do like the name). Personally I tend to listen to my feelings more now.

Thing is though even Jesus got confused after his epiphany, if you are never confused after one then you are blessed indeed. Or nuts.

I didn't tell you to listen to preachers, I said, read the New Testament and the Bible. Study with a group so that you can hash out ideas as they occur, with other people that want to hash out their ideas on you.

But since I already said I do all that it's a bit sticky, no?