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Peak oil-The end of us?

Uldarious
19-07-2005, 11:20
Alright, I'm not sure if this thread has been posted before because I couldn't find one but maybe one has...Well anyhoo I was looking up psychology and the economy and I stumbled across a website (www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net ...not sure if that counts as linking but you can check it out if you want) and I discovered some really alarming things such as that we might only have 5-10 years left before government and states begin to collapse.
Basically peak oil is the name given to when an oil well runs past half it's amount after this happens the oil begins to get harder and harder to extract eventually getting too hard to be worth the energy, and since almost everything in our lives is run by oil..the result is not good.
And some oil fields have already peaked some as long as 20-30 years ago.
So what are your views for the future after peak oil?
Green israel
19-07-2005, 11:25
I saw that site. very scaring and convincing. good explanation to bush's policy.
but it also said there is nothing we can do about it, so there isn't reason to worry. worry can't bring good, if the apocalypse is coming.
Uldarious
19-07-2005, 11:32
Yeah I know but it is soo scary that by middle age the world I know will be forever changed.
Green israel
19-07-2005, 11:58
the world changed for ever when the suviet union crash, and then he changed for ever in the 11/9, and israel will changed for ever after the pullout from gaza strip. changes happen.
in some more hundreds years, people will look back and learn us as history, just as we learn the romans. the world will changed, but I doubt it will eliminate the humanity.

who knows? the new world maybe even better than the present world after people will used to the changes.
Freyalinia
19-07-2005, 12:23
dont underestimate mankind's ability to adapt to any given situation.

we have survived for thousands of years without oil, calling it "The Apocolypse" is both ludicrious and rediculous...

Sides we have lots of different methods of fuel, none of them are as good as Oil but as my dad used to say, there is no use bitching about it if you have no choice.
Delator
19-07-2005, 12:37
Well, for me, it's not so much the use of oil as fuel that gets me worried about peak-oil. We have many other alternative fuel sources, and when crunch time comes, we'll work through it, though not without difficulty.

What I worry about is the thousands of products which are nearly impossible to make without oil, mainly involving plastics...this box-shaped thing you're typing on for instance. :eek:
Uldarious
19-07-2005, 12:43
I know humans will survive but we may descend back into the middle ages or worse...
Green israel
19-07-2005, 12:54
dont underestimate mankind's ability to adapt to any given situation.sure, but it still will be diffuclt to get used to the new situatiom, and sadly we will be at the time of the great depression while the humanity will move forward.

we have survived for thousands of years without oil, calling it "The Apocolypse" is both ludicrious and rediculous...(sarcasm)right. remember when the oil become important? at the industrial revolution. it didn't give much if you ignore, the modern medicine, fast communication and transportation, and the great amounts of food it made avaliable to the modern world. I think we can't get much problems by going back to the stage of the medivel world, after we get used to the priveleges of the modern world.(end of sarcasm)

Sides we have lots of different methods of fuel, none of them are as good as Oil but as my dad used to say, there is no use bitching about it if you have no choice.read the link. not only all those methods together can't replace the oil, most of them need oil so they will be available.
Uldarious
19-07-2005, 13:18
Yes, the link page is very long but it will tell you a lot but yeah it will be tough in the future.
Dragons Bay
19-07-2005, 13:49
Lol. This site joins the rest of those stories and prophesies about the coming apocalypse. Every day we here so many conspiracies and warnings I'm nearly getting tired of it - especially when most of these have been foretold.
Bolol
19-07-2005, 14:29
The "Oil Peak" apoccolypse theory is, IMO, the most plausible idea of the destruction of society.

Indeed, things WILL change, but I think humanity will survive, and hopefully emerge a little bit wiser about the world.
Illiterate Psychos
19-07-2005, 14:30
That site assumes the Western and Oil Companies theories about the degradation of biological matter into oil, as opposed to the Inorganic creation pathways always suspected in the Soviet Union (put forward by Medeliev himself) and being given extra credence again now.

However, even in saying that, the overuse of oil, and its eventual high price will certainly change the world as we know it, with large scale wars, and huge areas undergoing mass starvation and mass water shortages (to the degree of people dying of dehydration constantly).
Non Aligned States
19-07-2005, 15:09
That site assumes the Western and Oil Companies theories about the degradation of biological matter into oil, as opposed to the Inorganic creation pathways always suspected in the Soviet Union (put forward by Medeliev himself) and being given extra credence again now.

Care to explain? I haven't heard of that theory, so I'm curious.


However, even in saying that, the overuse of oil, and its eventual high price will certainly change the world as we know it, with large scale wars, and huge areas undergoing mass starvation and mass water shortages (to the degree of people dying of dehydration constantly).

Wars have almost always been fought over resources and/or territory. I should hardly expect it to be any different when a large scale oil crunch happens with no relief in sight. The most likely first contenders would be the ones with the biggest appetite for oil though.