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Just a poll - what do you think is worse to see in movies/TV/other media...

I'm not even waiting for the poll to say this.

I want it all.

Yes, even a naked chick getting shot clear in the head. I want that too.

We are more likely to observe violence day to day, but unless we're an unclothed African tribe, sex and nudity is one of the greatest taboos.

Besides, observing violence on an educational level makes boys braver.

I don't think either one is bad.

sex and nudity is one of the greatest taboos.

So it's decided then, it's a good thing to have in movies.
Or are we just going to spoil it and keep it under wraps?

I don't think either one is bad.

I agree.

But if I had to choose one, I would pick whichever rape fell under, because that stuff in movies just makes me sick: it combines the worse of both categories, which, on their own, aren't bad at all (with the exception of some really graphic violence.)

I honestly think the stigma attached to nudity and sex is just silly to begin with. Show someone being ripped limb from limb and everyone is fine. The second a boob flashes on TV people absolutely freak. I really wonder about this nation from time to time. :rolleyes:

We are more likely to observe violence day to day, but unless we're an unclothed African tribe, sex and nudity is one of the greatest taboos.

Uh, okay. I think most cohabitating couples would disagree on that. I’m pretty sure that the average American or European sees more naked bodies in real life than dismembered ones.

I don't think either one is bad.
The poll should have been which do you enjoy more! (nudity unless it is really funny violence like a chubby kid getting run over by an icecream truck or something)

Sex and nudity. Society has internalized rampant violence as bad, but it has not done the same for rampant sex.

The poll should have been which do you enjoy more! (nudity unless it is really funny violence like a chubby kid getting run over by an icecream truck or something)
:D

There really isn't enough nudity in the media today. Violence, eh--we've got plenty, but I don't know if you can ever really have enough nudity.

To me it seems that violence is worse than nudity (or even two consentual adults having sex). That being said, I think that there is more violence than nudity on TV so I guess the Australian government disagrees with me.

I’m pretty sure that the average American or European sees more naked bodies in real life than dismembered ones.

It doesn't have to be violence of that nature. Think of the fights and beating that have existence since the dawn of man, think of the scenes of Iraqi bloodshed on the daily news and think of all the road accidents that people slow down just to observe the wrecks.

Nudity its disgusting!

well, as an american, i think the US has desensitized us to violence, as well as nudity; however, it seems like sex gets more gasps of horror than people being murdered on television.

It doesn't mater how often we see violence, too much of it will scar the brain irrepairably, especially that of a child, while sex will do no such thing, besides make people more open about it, which people learn is socially acceptable and unacceptable at different times.

I think violence. Sexuality is a natural part of ourselves, although repressed due to our society. I feel gory violence for nothing other than entertainment is much worse than our bodies, therefore violence gets my vote.

It doesn't have to be violence of that nature. Think of the fights and beating that have existence since the dawn of man, think of the scenes of Iraqi bloodshed on the daily news and think of all the road accidents that people slow down just to observe the wrecks.

We don’t get those scenes of violence in the states. :D Also, a wreck isn’t violence, its an accident, usually.

I don't mind the violence, but thats my opinion. As for the nudity, I think it's disgusting but, I can't stop hollywood from producing it so I just don't watch movies with that in it and if I do I get disgusted at that part then watch the rest of the movie.

We don’t get those scenes of violence in the states. :D Also, a wreck isn’t violence, its an accident, usually.

Yeah, that's right, not only does CNN fail to report actual troop casualties in Iraq, they also proclaim that it's a happy place under Uncle Sam. It may be a road accident, but is it not a violent event or death for the victims?

If we teach our kids to feel very embarassed if they're spotted in the nude, then why are we encouraging them to become perverts?

Nudity is natural; if you don't like it, just continue to believe in cooties. I think that violence is hyped on the media, but I think that the most destructive form of moral corruption is violence. Violence changes people, it changes how they think and act. Nudity does not affect people as long-lasting as the sight of real violence, gore, mortality. The intoxication of love one moment subsides, but the image of the dead haunt.

Violence!

The news showing close ups of disembered victims of a suicide attack in Iraq/Israel/... that is pornography. People having sex? That is natural!

I think sex and nudity are worse, especially when they come in commercials.
violence is something that show enough in the news, so I don't think someone really harm by violent movies. there isn't nothing new there.

People having sex...yes that is natural, but I don't need to F*cking watch it!

Crap, I voted based on the topics title.
Put my vote in the other catagory :P

But yeah, everybody seems to be of the idea that blood and orgrans flying is fine, but if a female shows a nipple, its cause for the formation of lynch mobs.

I wouldnt MIND sex on TV, as long as there was some sort of notification (something more than we have now, like a warning after commercials and so forth), because frankly, there are times when I want to turn on the TV and NOT see a faked orgasm. Similarly, I wouldnt want my hypothetical six year old watching porn.
Of course, the same goes for violence. I wouldnt let my same hypothetical six year old watch Starship Troopers, although it has fairly good quantities of both sex and violence, because A) It would give him nightmares about giant bugs impaling him, and B) I dont think being introduced to graphic violence that young can do you any good.
That is, of course, my opinion and anybody ELSE on this forum that has kids can raise them as they please.[/stupiddisclaimerthatihavetoposttoavoidhijack]

To say that either are simply bad and shouldn't be broadcast is nonsensical. There are many shades of grey. The news media should be questioned about how they present information rather than the information itself. I think the violence in Iraq is horrific but I also think I should see what is being done in my name.

This changes in entertainment media. Glorification of violence and sexual objectification for entertainment is not cool. Thats not to say sex and violence should never appear in movies. Saying nudity, violence or sex in movies are bad full stop is like saying trees are bad. They are part of life. Lots of movies explore life.

Nudity its disgusting!

You must freak out when you get a glimpse of yourself getting into the shower. :D

Just from the imitation-factor I'd say violence. I'd much prefer if someone saw two people sleeping with eachother and go out to do the same than if someone saw someone punch another person and go out to do the same.

If we teach our kids to feel very embarassed if they're spotted in the nude, then why are we encouraging them to become perverts?Bah, the whole shame thing is the Church's fault.

I'm not even waiting for the poll to say this.

I want it all.

Yes, even a naked chick getting shot clear in the head. I want that too.

Wow thats umm.......bad.

Which is worse? I say explicit sex. Explicit violence can be faked, Explicit sex can't.

Which is worse? I say explicit sex. Explicit violence can be faked, Explicit sex can't.
Explicit sex doesn't necessarily hurt anyone though. How is portraying it worse?

Depiction of extreme violence.

Sex is fine, but too much violence can leave an indelible impression on a young mind and is also revolting.

Nudity isn't a problem, we all see at least one naked person every day.
Sex is part of being in a happy relationship, it's a force for good. It just needs censorship.
Extreme, realistic violence in a program is ok as long as it is not gratuitous. That it properly deals with the repercussions of the act and it moves the story forward.
What I hate to see in films, and it is the standard norm in Hollywood films these days is unrealistic, gratuitous violence with no repercussions and no remorse. It's films like these that make people grow up thinking violence is ok in everyday life.

Consider the kids TV program The A Team. Bullets would be flying through the air every episode, yet there would be no blood and nobody hurt. What message is that sending to the kids?

Nudity isn't a problem, we all see at least one naked person every day.
Sex is part of being in a happy relationship, it's a force for good. It just needs censorship.
Extreme, realistic violence in a program is ok as long as it is not gratuitous. That it properly deals with the repercussions of the act and it moves the story forward.
What I hate to see in films, and it is the standard norm in Hollywood films these days is unrealistic, gratuitous violence with no repercussions and no remorse. It's films like these that make people grow up thinking violence is ok in everyday life.

Consider the kids TV program The A Team. Bullets would be flying through the air every episode, yet there would be no blood and nobody hurt. What message is that sending to the kids?
That is the highest horse that i have ever seen anyone climb on.

Sex is good. Violence is bad. Unless you want to spank me then just go with it.

Sex is good. Violence is bad. Unless you want to spank me then just go with it.That's not violence though... unless it serves no purpose...
You know that's actually quite interesting: What is spanking?

The thing that upsets me on TV is violence, suffering and aggression. For example, for our British members, that drink driving campaign where the guys are in the bar eyeing up some ladies, then their table crashes into them.. I can't watch that, it's so shocking.

Sex and nudity is not aggression (unless it's rape, in which case it'd upset me), it's affection, and I see nothing wrong with that.

But let it be known that I'm not against portrayal of violence or sex, I'm all for de-censorship, it's just that some things freak me out..

The thing that upsets me on TV is violence, suffering and aggression. For example, for our British members, that drink driving campaign where the guys are in the bar eyeing up some ladies, then their table crashes into them.. I can't watch that, it's so shocking.

Sex and nudity is not aggression (unless it's rape, in which case it'd upset me), it's affection, and I see nothing wrong with that.

But let it be known that I'm not against portrayal of violence or sex, I'm all for de-censorship, it's just that some things freak me out..
Wouldn't you consider rape more of a form of violence than sex? It's not really about gratification, but about power and humiliation.

Nudity is natural and hurts no-one. Sex is a necessary function of life, and enjoyable at the same time.

Violence is natural, but it hurts people. Violence is the opposite of life, and causes nothing but pain and suffering.

I think it's pretty obvious which is 'worse', as though nudity is somehow 'bad' to start with (which it isn't).

That is the highest horse that i have ever seen anyone climb on.
Well think about it!
One of my favourite films is Robocop. The violence is realistic, the scene at the beginning when Murphy is shot, point blank in cold blood is horrific. Full of implications of the act of killing someone. It adds emotion to the story and the film is better for it.
Then you get the average cops/robbers million bullets and the hero never gets hurt. I really hate it when there's a shoot-out, bullets everywhere, and the bad-guy stands up to discharge a volley and gets shot without a drop of blood or emotion on his face. It's just stupid, in a shoot-out you'd hide behind a wall just sticking your gun round the corner and run like hell when the opportunity arises.

EDIT: As a P.S. Rape isn't sex, it's violence, physical and psychological.

That's not violence though... unless it serves no purpose...
You know that's actually quite interesting: What is spanking?

Well it could be my monkey, but i was refering to an open handed slap to my bottom.

Well it could be my monkey, but i was refering to an open handed slap to my bottom.The latter is what I interpreted. I haven't had or dished out spankings other than in sexual context since I was about seven though, which poses the question whether it gets ranked with violence or sex.

Bah. I’m all for the industry regulating itself. Let the networks decide if showing something is worth the advertisement if they get a bunch of people angry at them. You’ll be surprised by the results, and I’m confident a good mix of wholesome television, violent, sexually oriented shows, and shows in the somwhere in the middle.

The wholesome shows will come about to appease the protesters and because they no longer need to rely on “shock value” what with the fact that anything technically goes. The explicit shows will come about to make money, but don’t worry all you soccer moms, they won’t have hot girl on girl action on Nickelodeon. Monitor what your kids watch if you are so concerned, don’t restrict everybody because of your kids. I’m positive, though, that most shows will run a middle ground. You’ll see shows that air on FX on networks and maybe even a few Sex in the Cities. As long as you flash a little warning about content (without any age suggestions, that’s for parents to decide) when a show is about to start or is returning from a commercial it should be fine.

To conclude, in a free market everybody wins, except the authoritarians.

Bah. I’m all for the industry regulating itself. Let the networks decide if showing something is worth the advertisement if they get a bunch of people angry at them. You’ll be surprised by the results, and I’m confident a good mix of wholesome television, violent, sexually oriented shows, and shows in the somwhere in the middle.

The wholesome shows will come about to appease the protesters and because they no longer need to rely on “shock value” what with the fact that anything technically goes. The explicit shows will come about to make money, but don’t worry all you soccer moms, they won’t have hot girl on girl action on Nickelodeon. Monitor what your kids watch if you are so concerned, don’t restrict everybody because of your kids. I’m positive, though, that most shows will run a middle ground. You’ll see shows that air on FX on networks and maybe even a few Sex in the Cities. As long as you flash a little warning about content (without any age suggestions, that’s for parents to decide) when a show is about to start or is returning from a commercial it should be fine.

To conclude, in a free market everybody wins, except the authoritarians.Meh, I think regulation hours when explicit sex and violence can be shown is much better than allowing the market to regulate itself. The market rarely gets reigned in when morals no longer play a legal role.

Meh, I think regulation hours when explicit sex and violence can be shown is much better than allowing the market to regulate itself. The market rarely gets reigned in when morals no longer play a legal role.

I don’t think it’s the governments place to legislate morality, and, I suspect, for the most part, neither do you. I just find the amount of government involvement in entertainment to be… unnerving.

I don’t think it’s the governments place to legislate morality, and, I suspect, for the most part, neither do you. I just find the amount of government involvement in entertainment to be… unnerving.Oh, I believe in legislating morality (considering that I find it immoral to kill someone). I just draw the line at a different place than others. I wouldn't be all that favorable of kids being able to watch porn at eight in the morning, which would happen if it wasn't regulated.

Oh, I believe in legislating morality (considering that I find it immoral to kill someone).

I consider that more legislating order, but I guess, in the end, its just semantics.

I just draw the line at a different place than others. I wouldn't be all that favorable of kids being able to watch porn at eight in the morning, which would happen if it wasn't regulated.

Yeah, I guess so. A watershed it is then.

I'm not even waiting for the poll to say this.

I want it all.

Yes, even a naked chick getting shot clear in the head. I want that too.

I suggest some Frank Miller ;)

I suggest some Frank Miller ;)

I suggest medication. :D j/k

We are more likely to observe violence day to day, but unless we're an unclothed African tribe, sex and nudity is one of the greatest taboos.

Besides, observing violence on an educational level makes boys braver.

Maybe it's just me, but I think getting laid might really cheer you up. :)

Both are fine, if it's for adults.

Either are fine for younger people, just 'adjusted' for their maturity.

No beaver shots or severed limbs until they're like 12.

No nipples or notable blood loss until they're like 9?

No restrictions on anything. However we kill people who make bad films.

Personally I feel I should vote nudity but logically it should be violence as sex is (usually) a legal act, whereas violence is nearly always wrong and abhorrent. I suspect we are all becoming indifferent to violence to a degree.

Doesn't it entirley depend on context?

Sex and nudity can be shown in a way that respects the people involved but it can equally be shown in a way that degrades and objectifies (usually the woman, but not necessarily so).

Violence can be inappropriately glorified and this may be problematic where the consequences of violence are underplayed.

I do not, however, believe that censorship is the appropriate response - I would favour a better education and more public debate - provided it does not exclude those very people who are most vulnerable.

There's nothing so damaging as a bad education ... except death perhaps... or maybe severe mutilation ... or starvation ... or poverty ... or genocide ... etc. But then again, how many of these things are eliminated or made less damaging by a good education. Ah, but what is a 'good' education... I digress. :confused:

I actually think violence is better to see on television. However, nudity comes in a close second.

Damn American censorship.

Uh, okay. I think most cohabitating couples would disagree on that. I’m pretty sure that the average American or European sees more naked bodies in real life than dismembered ones. *looks guilty*

I prefer violence in media. Of course, some violence can be sickening, like the decompression scene in Event Horizon *shudders*. I don't really like nudity in films, unless it's some kind of horrible impalement scene… I like mass-murdery violence, Predator-style… am I scaring you yet?

I actually think violence is better to see on television. However, nudity comes in a close second.

Damn American censorship.
Hey, German censorship completely ruins the Rock with Nicholas Cage and Sean Connery. Some of the Marines that die just don't appear anymore because their deathscenes get cut.

*looks guilty*

I prefer violence in media. Of course, some violence can be sickening, like the decompression scene in Event Horizon *shudders*. I don't really like nudity in films, unless it's some kind of horrible impalement scene… I like mass-murdery violence, Predator-style… am I scaring you yet?

Nah. I don’t like sex scenes in movies either, but a good ol’ medieval style battle, that’s for me. Have you ever seen the special edition of “Lord of the Rings”? they cut out a lot of the bloodier kills in the theater, especially in the mines of Moria scenes.

;) Don't need any more violence, but lots more nudity PLEAAAAAAAAAASSSSSE :p

Hey, German censorship completely ruins the Rock with Nicholas Cage and Sean Connery. Some of the Marines that die just don't appear anymore because their deathscenes get cut.

Wtf! That movie was awesome and they butchered it :(

I'm surprised they didn't try to cover over with the scene by just saying the Seals just got tired and went awol. Hell there's no point in even having them in the movie.

"Losers always whine about doing their best, winners go home and **** the prom queen.* - Sean Connery :D

There really isn't enough nudity in the media today. Violence, eh--we've got plenty, but I don't know if you can ever really have enough nudity.
I agree!

Both are bad and unnecessary.

Just a poll - what do you think is worse to see in movies/TV/other media...


I see nothing wrong with showing nudity, as everyone is nude at one time or another, but we've made it so that graphic violence is more socially acceptable than nudity. That's a shame, as we have glorified violence to the point to where young people (and some not-so-young people) see it as an acceptable solution to their problems.

Both are bad and unnecessary. Violence? Bad? :confused:

Violence? Bad? :confused:

Uh, yeah ... that would be my take.

Uh, yeah ... that would be my take. Ah, well, it depends what sort of violence. There are many different kinds of violence. Zulu and Alien are both violent - in different ways - but they couldn't be said to glorify violence.

Nudity its disgusting!

What are you, 8?

Nothing wrong with sex. Although I may not think violence is a great thing I think anyone should be allowed to produce programs about anything they wish. If people want to watch it then so be it. Why should we restrict the right of others to watch the entertainment they wish to see?

If you don't like that kind of stuff then dont watch it. I believe you have a christian channel or two you can watch and not be subjected to this stuff.

I like both. Let's see naked people being shot repeatedly by machine guns! Woohoo!

i said nudity/sex only for one reason

i will say i do not find the human body disgusting, but i am a feminist and i don't like to see naked or half naked women showing themselves off to guys all over the world so they can get kicks, i don't guys should do it either, but you have to admit, there are more women than men doing that kind of stuff. My dad has a swimsuit edition calendar, and this months 'model' wanted to be a mountie when she was little... a nice, respectable, career, instead she's kneeling on a chair wearing a skimpy bathing suit, in a very provocative pose, looking like she's about to untie the bathing suit wrap that is suggesting there is nothing underneath it. Frankly i'm outraged by it, but what's one little 17-year-old going to do about it...

Nudity shouldn't be so condemned. When did the human body become more of a vulgarity than, oh say... children being slaughtered?

Gimme flesh.

Gimme lust.

Gimme foul-mothed excess.

Put the gore on pay-per-view. along with boxing, wrestling, monster truck rallies, NASCAR and White House press conferences.

*puffs*

Pronto!

Some people want to see both.

I'll go a step further. I want to see both together; Violent sex.

:D

Not rape, though. But I have noticed something; Movies are very cautious about depictions of male-female rape. It's rarely depicted at all, and when it is, it's done so in a very cautious and serious story-oriented manner.

On the other hand, male-male rape, while still uncommon, is added into movies gratuitously(Pulp Fiction) and often mentioned(if not shown) in a humorous light(Dirty Work).

What message is that sending? Rape is wrong...but male rape is kinda funny.

Is that a fairly accurate assessment? Because frankly, I agree. Male rape IS kinda funny. But I admit that I'm a bit...odd.

WTF? Nudity is only a taboo because it's been made a taboo. If society treated it as the norm than no one would really mind it. What's gonna happen if you see a naked person? You're gonna wanna get naked? Great, so what? Voilence on the other hand, fun as it is to watch, is more likely to influence someone to do something that will harm themselves as well as others.

You must freak out when you get a glimpse of yourself getting into the shower. :D
Not at all i wear my Bathing Suit (http://www.drodd.com/images/chando-bathing-suit.jpg)! :p

Well i could have gone with this... (http://www.joeyharrison.com/ftp.joeyharrison.com/NYC%20Easter%20parade,%20bathing%20suit%20-%20ec.jpg)

To me it seems that violence is worse than nudity (or even two consentual adults having sex). That being said, I think that there is more violence than nudity on TV so I guess the Australian government disagrees with me.

Look at the Aussie big brother. I think one of the comeidians on the Glass House was right.

"This is Big Brother. If that guy whips out his cock one more time. Chop It Off!"

Violence is worse. You should enjoy nudity in your direction. :)