NationStates Jolt Archive

I was talking to my mate today and this song called "The Chicken Song" came on and the bloosy thing has been stuck in my head ever since.

It it got me thinking...there are so many groups out there that everyone hates, and very few that people actually like. So my question is:

What music soloists/groups/bands do you just hate and why. List as many as you want. Here are my guys:

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5. Korn - I can never understand what the bloody hell they are saying, and to be honest, when 90% of your track is made up of screaming, well, enough said...

4. Natasha Bedingfield - I don't know what it is about her...she just bloody irratates me. I'm sick of the sound of her voice. And let's face it, the lyrics are not exactly complex.

3. Gwen Stefani - AAAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!! SHUT HER UP! IN THE NAME OF ALL THINGS CRISPY, SHUT HER UP!

"What you waiting...What you waiting for"

"FOR SOMEONE TO JUST SHOOT YOU!!!"

2. Busted - thankfully now gone. Now it wasn't the singing that got to me. It was the fact they thought they could be "rockers" with their jumping about (ooh, REAL rocking guys). Look at the bloody lyrics of any song.

"I like the way you dress
Though I hate to fly
But I feel much better
Occupied my mind
Writing you a love letter
I messed my pants
When we flew over France
Will I see you soon
In my hotel room
For a holiday romance?
Air hostess"

ANY MORON WITH A RYHMING DICTIONARY COULD HAVE COME UP WITH THAT!

1. Electric Six - ok, these guys did a cover of Radio Ga Ga and in their video they blatantly took the piss out of Freddy Mercury - disrepective bastards. Not only that, but they are just strange freaks. You only have to see and hear "High Voltage" and "Gay Bar" to know what I mean.

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OK guys, who do you guys pick?

Come on, isn't it obvious? Pop in general just plain sucks at life. Any female pop artist, like Britney, Christina, Avril, Jessica, and many many more who are idolized by stupid spoiled underage teen girls. Basically anything that the pretty, preppy girls think is so cool is definitely so stupid-as-hell, so you can sum my answer up to: American Pop. Doesn't matter. If it's a pop sensation, the world could do without it.

David Gray. He should work for the Samaritons instead

ANY pop or rap band. I don't know if i should call it music.

The... *shudder* Crazy Frog. Or the person responsible, anyway.

Basically everything, actually. The talentless "gangsta rappers" with their "bling" and their "hos". The pop divas with their small minds and smaller outfits. The DJs who believe that three minutes of repetitive drum machine noises constitutes music. The easy listening people, who try to put some feeling into their music and fail miserably. The Coldplay imitators. The hordes of Franz Ferdinand clones. Sometimes it feels like talented musicians have died out. They haven't, of course. They've just turned hiding into an art form. :(

Electric Six
"Let's start a war!
Start a nuclear war
At the gay bar
Gay bar
Gay bar
Weeow!"

i actually like pop... some of it.. I'm more of a rock music person.. but i do like some pop..

I agree, pop music is pretty lifeless. I've lost interest in just about all of the new rock being pumped out over the airwaves these days. It all sounds like the same 'ol, same 'ol, just repackaged.

I've even started to find U2, one of my all time favorites a little annoying because they seem to be coming up dry in the creativity department, musically speaking. I still admire their desire to make the world a better place though...

Now that I agree with.. U2 has gone down the wrong path.. I used to like their older songs (A beautiful day).. but they adopted a style that just plain sucks in my own book.

Well anyways I did get some Rolling Stones tickets (November 4th, 2005 concert at Anaheim Angel Stadium). They are by far my favorite band.... bar none.

Now that I agree with.. U2 has gone down the wrong path.. I used to like their older songs (A beautiful day).. but they adopted a style that just plain sucks in my own book.

Well anyways I did get some Rolling Stones tickets (November 4th, 2005 concert at Anaheim Angel Stadium). They are by far my favorite band.... bar none.
A beautiful day is an older U2 song? PWAHAHAHAHAHA *points and laughs*

A beautiful day is an older U2 song? PWAHAHAHAHAHA *points and laughs*

Eh named wrong song. Nevermind. I was thinking of another one. No need to be a jerk about it.

Electric Six + Kittens = Ownage (www.rathergood.com/gaybar)

Come to think of it the real video rocks too.

1. Electric Six - ok, these guys did a cover of Radio Ga Ga and in their video they blatantly took the piss out of Freddy Mercury - disrepective bastards. Not only that, but they are just strange freaks. You only have to see and hear "High Voltage" and "Gay Bar" to know what I mean.

I agree with everything you said, except the Electric Six.

I'm sure in that "I believe in love", the lead singer was taking the mick out of Freddie.

"Strange freaks"? Well, I'm sorry if I'm a strange freak for liking their music and videos. I feel they kick ass, poking fun at themselves and others, something which not alot of other singers do. "Gay Bar" is one of the best songs I've heard, and I'm not gay. High Voltage was odd, but funny non the less.

I don't think I can stress enough how awful rap is. It. Is. Just. So. Bad.

Now that I agree with.. U2 has gone down the wrong path.. I used to like their older songs (A beautiful day).. but they adopted a style that just plain sucks in my own book.
Maybe you were thinking of "New Year's Day"? That song is supreme. I love U2 from 1980-1997. Everything since then has been mediocre.

Eh named wrong song. Nevermind. I was thinking of another one. No need to be a jerk about it.

There was a definite need for LP to be a jerk about it. :) I commend him.

I haven't listened to much in the way of pop in years, other than that with which I'm bombarded any time I leave the house. I could give the standard answers--Britney Spears, etc.--but instead, I'll give this example. (http://therightbrothers.com) Check out their lyrics for an example of assholitude in full effect.

The... *shudder* Crazy Frog. Or the person responsible, anyway.

Basically everything, actually. The talentless "gangsta rappers" with their "bling" and their "hos". The pop divas with their small minds and smaller outfits. The DJs who believe that three minutes of repetitive drum machine noises constitutes music. The easy listening people, who try to put some feeling into their music and fail miserably. The Coldplay imitators. The hordes of Franz Ferdinand clones. Sometimes it feels like talented musicians have died out. They haven't, of course. They've just turned hiding into an art form. :(

"Beats head with baseball bat" Granted today most of today's rappers are exposed to grand gold mine of music and none have lived in the hood throughout their lives, the original gangstas I have respect for. But for me, Girl Groups like Morning musume shouldnt be in the business, it is like the common cold. You can prevent it but cant cure it.

Everyone always rags on rap. I can understand why- the rap mainstream is absolutely fucking awful: eminem, snoop dog (he used to be good as well), fat joe, lil john, and the rest of those wankers. But all rap is not that same talentless bullshit- try listening NWA, Public enemy, jurassic 5, cypress hill, etc etc. There is so much variety within rap (or any genre come to think of it) that you can't dismiss it all with one blanket statement.

That said lets lynch geri halliwell

ANY pop or rap band. I don't know if i should call it music.
rap? go directly to jail, do no pass go, do no collect - nm, jsut go and shut up.

I'm sick and tired of people who listen to the radi oand mainstream stuff degrading rap. You wanna degrade rap? Go check out Roots or Jurassic 5 or Run-DMC. There is plenty of the variations of "rock" that couldn't qualify as music either

and yeah, pop is all maisntream garbage, tehre arn't any pop underground, its all the idiots on the radio and its all designed to sell clothes and toys and what not. Pop isn't music, its a marketing ploy

Poppers...get out NOW! If only I could make this happen.

I should probably have clarified in my previous post that I don't hate all rap. Just the shit that gets played on the radio.

Looking at the current German charts, I think about three quarters should disappear right now. That is Akon, US5, the fucking Crazy Frog, German rappers, and Nena. Geez.
Additionally, all those pop divas (especially Mariah Carey) should just vanish into nothingness. Pretty please.

I've even started to find U2, one of my all time favorites a little annoying because they seem to be coming up dry in the creativity department, musically speaking. I still admire their desire to make the world a better place though...

U2 was NEVER good.

People are just finally realizing that they are nothing but a bunch of talentless hacks. The only reason why he got popular because of the Live Aid and various charities.

Don't forgot he makes songs insulting the west for not donating enough money, even though HE MAKES MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ON HIS ALBUMS.

jurassic 5

Yeah!

Claiming to hate an entire genre is just as bad as liking a band simply because it's a certain genre. Jurassic 5, K-Os, and Del tha Funkee Homosapien bring a lot of interesting stuff to the table. The only genre that I would label as being completely worthless are the constructed "bands" which sell more posters than albums.

Canada City']U2 was NEVER good.

I beg to differ: their first EP was a corker in an angular post-punk fashion, however after that it has been downhill all the way for me.

Bands that are about as fun to listen to as having your brain slammed in a car door:


Avril Lavigne (Flat out annoying twit. Someone please shut her up)

Christina Aguleria (I don't think you're sexy, I think you're nothing but a hoochie)

Destiny's Child (Pure crap)

50 Cent (You're almost as big of a dipshit as the annoying townies who listen to you)

Nelly (See above)

Hillary Duff (DUAL THREAT!! Can't sing or act)

Eminem (The object of all the wangsters/townies/chavs/whatever the hell they're called this week homoerotic fantasies....)

B-52's (You know, I can say the words "love shack" 346678456898 times too. You're not talented)

The White Stripes (The only thing worse than that crappy Seven Nation Army song is that crappy Seven Nation Army song being played seven times a day)


And now....Diseases I'd rather have than to listen to the above

AIDS
Cancer
Hepatitis
Syphillis
Hanta Virus
West Nile
Avian Flu
SARS
Herpes

B-52's (You know, I can say the words "love shack" 346678456898 times too. You're not talented)



if you can't appreciate how fun the B-52's are, then you can have all those diseases, like, twice!

And "Planet Claire" is sweet.

Grunge, and most music that came out of grunge, can politely go shove it.

You see the only issue I have is that I like a bit out of all genres, besides, of course Country (someone I believe everyone here hates but doesn't even bother to put it because everyone knows no one important listens to country.)

My Winamp playlist changes day to day. Beatles, Depeche Mode, Stray Cats, Techno (the stuff that isn't the same damn noise over and over.) rap, besides mainstream, and by mainstream I mean Stuff even up to and including 50-cent. If your hitting hoes and swinging bling, your not singing, and your not making your background music better, something I really hate about rap. The Grey Album, the infamous semi banned album remixing Beatles and Jay Z together is one that hits my playlist a lot. Gorillaz are one that no one can possibly place in a genre, but there on there. R.E.M. Etc. But enough about stuff I like, list of stuff I don't.


U.2 - almost any U.2 song. Espeically the newer crap, but even most of the old stuff I've never liked.
That band that did "Story of a Girl." - and basically nothing else, should DIE. Anyone who can get on the radio for saying the songs title in a chorus of shit over and over shouldn't be allowed to live.
Anything done by Girl Pop artists - Not because I don't enjoy there poppy beats from time to time (even I have my poppish moods, I admit. They come far in few between, but they come) but because when I'm NOT in the mood for pop, they STILL play the songs, and they STILL get stuck in my god damn head.
Whiny music where the music consists of screaming - I don't mind occasional screaming, if it has a point. I don't really mind a hell of a lot of screaming, if there is music that is good enough in the background. However, bands that come out and immediately start bitching or screaming about something pointless need to die. Why do depressed people listen to this? I don't know about you, but the reason I'm depressed is because this GUY is SCREAMING about how much is LIFE IS SHIT. Wow, THATS depressing.
Did I mention I hate country - Note to the public. Girls, sing country. Guys, don't sing country, they gargle country. There is a big difference. The other difference is that girl (or lady, depending on how old they are) country singers normally sing about things that I don't mind listening about. Lives, Jesus, etc etc. Not something I'd enjoy sitting for hours on end listening too, but not bad for... maybe half of one song. Guys sing about trucks. Why? I don't know, apparently rednecks really fucking love trucks. I don't. So there inlies the issue.


Anyway, I could have added the repititive techno bullshit, the repetitive rap bullshit, the music that truly tells of the end times, E.M.O, and that sort of deal, but I'm sure you all have already stopped listening to me and are planning bomb threats, so I'll stop there.

All emo bands...period.

All emo bands...period.
The music or the lyrics?

The music or the lyrics?
If I want to listen to whiny, "emotional" music... I'll listen to goth rock. At least there's some element of style there.

If I want to listen to whiny, "emotional" music... I'll listen to goth rock. At least there's some element of style there.

What do you judge emo on? The lyrics or the style of music? Or both?

People that shouldn't be in the business:
Bands or people casted in TV shows specifically designed for culling the "best" of the nation, especially the second or third (or God forbid fourth) generation thereof.

Everything that can be played by mainstream media has to go. Korn annoys me every bit as much as Green Day & Britney Spears. Madonna can stay if she promise never to sing again, and stick to looking fuckable.

Most notably, Metallica should be tortured to death live, over a 3 week period. All their earnings should then go to music pirates across the globe.

Oh I hate Metallica! A band whose original fans could never afford to buy albums, lead an attack on the world's (almost) only non-profit piracy option. Death is far far to good for those twats.
And that drummer is the most omboxious brat I've ever seen :gundge:

You see the only issue I have is that I like a bit out of all genres, besides, of course Country (someone I believe everyone here hates but doesn't even bother to put it because everyone knows no one important listens to country.) What about Johnny Cash? Also, let's not forget what Grunge replaced... 80's Hair Metal.

A beautiful day is an older U2 song? PWAHAHAHAHAHA *points and laughs*

It actually is an older U2 song, it was only released recently though.

All the bands MTV touts as emo should admit they aren't, then MTV should plays hours of hardcore concerts live, and no fashioncore shit like Avenged Sevenfold.

Then MTV would just have to apologize for ruining alternative... that might take longer.

What do you judge emo on? The lyrics or the style of music? Or both?

Seeing as he's likely never heard emo, nothing at all. ;)

Emo sounds just the same as Goth to me, whiny adolescents crying into their alcopops.

KORN suck of course, except for that old video with the bullet... you know the one, it won awards 'n stuff.

Oh yeah, the reason most people here hate rap is because the only rap they know is 'pop hop' rather than hip hop.

REAL rappers talk about social issues and street philosophy, they do not chant about how nice their life is and how many women they attact with all their shiny baubles.

Don't even get me started on what's become of R&B....

Emo sounds just the same as Goth to me, whiny adolescents crying into their alcopops.

Emo's a type of hardcore.

Check for some Orchid, Planes Mistaken For Stars, Indian Summer, Saetia and At The Drive In... or at least one of them, ATDI are pretty tame compared to alot of emo.

Emo's a type of hardcore.

Check for some Orchid, Planes Mistaken For Stars, Indian Summer, Saetia and At The Drive In... or at least one of them, ATDI are pretty tame compared to alot of emo.

Is At The Drive In considered Emo? I've got Relationship of Command (& really like it), but never really thought what genre it is.

Any new school punk, emo in general, most pop (unless it's weird), a lot of lame 80's metal, boring "cock rock" like Nickelback and Creed, Country, disco, R&B, most newer rap (I like most old-school rap)....jazz also bores me, but I won't say I hate it.

I can tolerate some nu-metal, but usually avoid it. Except for SOAD, but I maintain that they aren't nu-metal :p

if you can't appreciate how fun the B-52's are, then you can have all those diseases, like, twice!

And "Planet Claire" is sweet.

Hell yes.

Grunge, and most music that came out of grunge, can politely go shove it.

Bah. Well, You can't possibly hate the Pixies :)

Emo's a type of hardcore.

Check for some Orchid, Planes Mistaken For Stars, Indian Summer, Saetia and At The Drive In... or at least one of them, ATDI are pretty tame compared to alot of emo.

hah.

Emo's about as hardcore as a leaky boot, every single song is a whine about some girl or other.

Emo's like modern rap in many ways, stuck in a single topic for 90% of their songs.

hah.

Emo's about as hardcore as a leaky boot, every single song is a whine about some girl or other.

Emo's like modern rap in many ways, stuck in a single topic for 90% of their songs.

Pop isn't emo, Dashboard and ilk have nothing to do with it, but I suppose being ignorant is awesome.

Is At The Drive In considered Emo? I've got Relationship of Command (& really like it), but never really thought what genre it is.

Yeah, although they span a few genres.

Responses:

Talk about Rap: just making it clear, as I said I don't hate rap, I hate pop rap like most people here. The shitty stuff where the music is "Boop Boop Boop," and the lyrics are basically about how cool they are, what there name is, and how many girls they seemed to have fucked in the past three minutes (normally a number between 1-100.)

Talk about Country: No. No country. There is possibly... three country songs that are tolerable to me, and I can't even name them. This is possibly the only genre that I will fight over the radio to turn off.

Talk about Jazz: Alright I lied, I'll fight to turn this off too, unless I want to take a nap in the car, in which case jazz is perfect.

Talk about EMO: does it really matter that most of us have never heard past basic pop (mainstream) EMO? There basically all the same. Grunge, gothic, EMO, there all basically the exact opposite of rap, how much there life sucks, and how many girls they would have liked to have fucked in the last three minutes (ironically also a number between 1-100. Albeit normally this is cleverly disguised as some sort of romantic ballad, its really a creepy sonnet of a stalker.)

Talk about Alternative Rock: I actually like most alternative rock, even mainstream. If it has a nice set of music and the lyrics mean something (or don't if its insane, like Float On by Modest Mouse) then I'll listen to it. Even most bands that people got sick of (Green Day, Nickelback, which isn't technically alternative I guess but it here anyway, and there ilk.) I can tolerate.

Talk about Classic Rock: This would be my true genre of choice. What is Classic Rock? It has a lot of definitions, but here is mine. Its anything that came out of the 60's or 70's that isn't of the following Genres.
Love Songs
Disco/R&B
Folk like Songs (which I like, but aren't Classic Rock obviously.)
Copies of old 50's songs (first few Beatles albums I don't consider classic rock, rest I do of course.)
The Beegees (god I hate the Beegees.)
and things similar to all these.
Some wonder the truth behind weather Beatles are Classic Rock, saying a lot of there songs are Love songs, Folk songs, or copies of 50's songs. But saying the Beatles are the most recognizable and liked band across the world, they get to be in whatever damn genre they like.

About Underground Rap/Hip Hop: I would have said there wasn't anything special with it, but I was blinded by a lack of listening quality. As I said before, Grey Album, and even some Gorillaz songs (not an underground band saying it went platinum but its similar style) enlightened me. Also, bands like the Scratch perverts are pretty interesting to listen to.

Absolute Favorite Bands: Beatles, Queen, Gorillaz, Eiffel 65, Elton John, ELO, CCR, Billy Joel, Linkin Park (I know I have more, but this gives a general taste of my playlists.)

McFly. Anyone who has the tenacity to copy Busted needs to be hung. We dont want Busted, we sure as hell dont need another camp pop/rock er....band? No...is that the word?

The Blues and Jazz. I mostly find them dull, but that isn't why I hate them; I hate them because they can be so fucking pretentious about how 'important' they are. Especially when jamming - jamming is only interesting when you are very, VERY good at it, and can improv a decent enough tune. So much Blues and Jazz jamming results in them picking a generic, four beat bar then playing it for twenty minutes while they desperately think of what to play next. They work out a different bar, play it for five minutes, then back to the boring bar again while they work something ELSE out. Then blah on about how 'deep' it all was. No it wasn't - it was boring and had no more importance than any other music. Please get a life.

I don't like most rap, and gangsta rap makes me rage. Especially 50 Cent, who was still peddling drugs until the year 2000. Bastard. However, rap is (usually) simple enough to dance to and makes music more immediately accessable, which is no bad thing. And anyone who says it is ALL simple needs to try singing some of Dizzy Rascal's songs.

And as for pop, the fact that 99% of diehard fans of all boy bands are girls from 8 - 14 is all the proof you need that them liking the bands is only due to their hormones.

Talk about EMO: does it really matter that most of us have never heard past basic pop (mainstream) EMO? There basically all the same. Grunge, gothic, EMO, there all basically the exact opposite of rap, how much there life sucks, and how many girls they would have liked to have fucked in the last three minutes (ironically also a number between 1-100. Albeit normally this is cleverly disguised as some sort of romantic ballad, its really a creepy sonnet of a stalker.

I'll give you the "how much their life sucks" part in relation to grunge, while it isn't strictly true...I guess it fits for a fair few Alice in Chains and Nirvana songs...personally, i'd rather listen to a song about how much their life sucks rather than how much cooler than me they are and how their new caddilac is the shiz (and this doesn't apply to all rap either. Go listen to Public Enemy.)

However, can you name me one grunge song that is about "how many girls they would have liked to have fucked in the last three minutes"?

Talk about Classic Rock

Oh...that reminds me...

Been dazed and confused for so long it’s not true,
Wanted any woman, never bargained for you.
Lots of people talk and few of them know,
Soul of a woman was created below. yeah!
You hurt and abused tellin’ all of your lies,
Run around sweet baby, lord how they hypnotize.
Sweet little baby, I don’t know where you’ve been,
Gonna love you baby, here I come again.

Maybe you should have a look at the lyrics of a lot of classic rock. A lot of it is self loathing, and much of it about women. I think your statement "how many girls they would have liked to have fucked in the last three minutes (ironically also a number between 1-100. Albeit normally this is cleverly disguised as some sort of romantic ballad, its really a creepy sonnet of a stalker." fits the Doors in particular quite well. :p

Check for some Orchid, Planes Mistaken For Stars, Indian Summer, Saetia and At The Drive In... or at least one of them, ATDI are pretty tame compared to alot of emo.

Sorry to disagree, but ATDI is closer to traditional horecore punk than emo - in particular, the fact that their music is political in nature is the decisive split.
I will add my wait to the masses: pop music, pop rap and worst of all plastic punk all fill me with hate; although I don't like much rap, I really hate what the pop rappers have done to the real rap of the world ... and don't even get me started on what blink182 et al has done to punk!

What do you judge emo on? The lyrics or the style of music? Or both?
Being a veteran musician myself, I tend to judge on talent first and foremost. When "emo" started making the rounds, I went all over the net and listened to as much as I could find...and I find them, overall, sorely lacking in the talent department.

If I want 3 chord music, I'll listen to old punk or rockabilly. If I want "emotional" music, I'll listen to goth/goth rock.

And I swear...next person that calls Fugazi "emo" in front of me gets their arm wrenched out of its socket and then beaten with the bloody end. :headbang:

Being a veteran musician myself, I tend to judge on talent first and foremost. When "emo" started making the rounds, I went all over the net and listened to as much as I could find...and I find them, overall, sorely lacking in the talent department.

If I want 3 chord music, I'll listen to old punk or rockabilly. If I want "emotional" music, I'll listen to goth/goth rock.

And I swear...next person that calls Fugazi "emo" in front of me gets their arm wrenched out of its socket and then beaten with the bloody end. :headbang:
Fugazi is emo.

Rap is horrible.

Of course, every now and then you get something okay.

okay, not good.

Fugazi is emo.
*kills you...quickly and painfully*

:p

I'm not fan of rap in general, though there are a few songs out there that I like. I can't stand reggae or opera (except for that one mix that includes some techno dance stuff with an opera piece).

My favourite genre is classic rock, and my tastes are generally what you'd find on a station that plays mostly '70s music.

FAVOURITE ARTISTS/BANDS
Stevie Nicks (my all time favourite)
Heart
Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young
Aerosmith
Rolling Stones
The Beatles (mostly because I get great reactions when I sing their songs at karaoke)
Billy Joel
Sheryl Crow
Tina Turner
Jefferson Starship
U2
Donna Summer

Emo's about as hardcore as a leaky boot, every single song is a whine about some girl or other.

Hint: go listen to Rites Of Spring, Moss Icon, Jawbreaker, Hoover or Born Against and get back to us on that one.

*kills you...quickly and painfully*

:p

He's right you know: Fugazi are emo. When the first started they were one of the quintessential emo bands. Take a listen to DISCHORD 30 and then argue with me.

Oh, dear. Perhaps it would be simpler to count what I DO like. So here goes:

-Classical
-Some Jazz

And there you have it, folks. Everything else can go to hell, if it were to exist, which it does not.

He's right you know: Fugazi are emo. When the first started they were one of the quintessential emo bands. Take a listen to DISCHORD 30 and then argue with me.

Meh. I never really thought they were. But then, people say Weezer are emo too. *shrugs*

Can anyone actually give a concrete definition of emo that distinguishes it from alternative rock? I don't think it's a coherent genre at all.

Being a veteran musician myself, I tend to judge on talent first and foremost. When "emo" started making the rounds, I went all over the net and listened to as much as I could find...and I find them, overall, sorely lacking in the talent department.

If I want 3 chord music, I'll listen to old punk or rockabilly. If I want "emotional" music, I'll listen to goth/goth rock.

And I swear...next person that calls Fugazi "emo" in front of me gets their arm wrenched out of its socket and then beaten with the bloody end. :headbang:

That didn't really answer my question, though. I think we all judge all musicians on talent first. But what do you define emo by? Their style that they play their instruments or the topics of their lyrics? Because the "emo" that most people think of have distinctive sounds and meanings to their songs; I just want to know which one you think more clearly defines the genre.

I find you can generally tell an emo band from the name...(ok, I'm kidding...but there is an element of truth in it).
Anyways, here's what the world should be rid of:
Coldplay.
Most of the Beatles' work.

Mainstream radio stations and music tv channels. Or to be more precise, playlists. Let the DJs play what they want to play. If a song's good, let it be played on merit, not because the radio station wants to keep its listeners. If the stations finds that people aren't listening, then sack (or hang) the DJ, and get someone in who plays stuff people like. You never know, people who listen to radio might actually find new bands to like, not just the bands that the big labels decide to put their money behind. Or not. But if that's the case, then...well...looks like there really is no hope.

Pop-punk. Good Charlotte. Why? Green Day seem to be put in this genre now, but while I can't exactly disagree, their music is a hell of a lot better than anything that GC et al have put out.

and to be honest, when 90% of your track is made up of screaming, well, enough said...

that logic is retarded.

Guys that really shouldn't be in the music business?




erm... is MTV a guy?

I find you can generally tell an emo band from the name...

*snigger* Ever notice how they're often three words? Why the magic three?

*snigger* Ever notice how they're often three words? Why the magic three?
Because less than three they can't do, and they don't have the brain power to come up with a name over three.



Though, seriously, article, adjective, noun, is generally how band names are formed, regardless of genre.

http://members.aol.com/Valdes379/EmoGame.html
Starting an emo band? Stuck for a name? Your prayers have been answered, with the Emo Band Name Generator!

http://members.aol.com/Valdes379/EmoGame.html
Starting an emo band? Stuck for a name? Your prayers have been answered, with the Emo Band Name Generator!

I played that and got Jimmy Eats Kids. Should I be worried yet?

Though, seriously, article, adjective, noun, is generally how band names are formed, regardless of genre.

I'd argue against that, but I can't be bothered. :p

And the emo name generator is awesome! Go The Crownhate Theory!

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Absolute Favorite Bands: Beatles, Queen, Gorillaz, Eiffel 65, Elton John, ELO, CCR, Billy Joel, Linkin Park (I know I have more, but this gives a general taste of my playlists.)

Eiffel 65...I have one of their CD's...haven't listened to it in awhile though.

anyway, I don't care for any of the punk rock bands that all sound the same. Jimmy Eat World, Nine Inch Nails, that kind of stuff. The music isn't bad, there's just way too much of it.

and Powerman 5000 is the best band ever.

The worst Music is Anything Post GnR all of it sucks

I hate rap in general. If you like it, thats cool. If you think its music, you have issues.

The worst Music is Anything Post GnR all of it sucksWhat's GnR?

The worst Music is Anything Post GnR all of it sucks

Quoted for ignorance.

There are plenty of good recent bands, and if you want examples I will give them to you.

Because less than three they can't do, and they don't have the brain power to come up with a name over three.



Though, seriously, article, adjective, noun, is generally how band names are formed, regardless of genre.

Less Than Three would be a great name for an emo band.

What's GnR?

Guns'n'Roses, I believe, as the popular phrase "The kids are into Guns'n'Roses, when they should be into God'n'Moses".

Can anyone actually give a concrete definition of emo that distinguishes it from alternative rock? I don't think it's a coherent genre at all.

Personally I still use the definition I first encountered way back in about '91 or so - 'emotional hardcore', where the emotion pissed off about political issues is excluded (else just about all harcore fits into the category).

emo is a stupid classification because if the song or music wasn't emotional I wouldn't bother listening to it. Main reason why I don't listen to a lot of pop music

Less Than Three would be a great name for an emo band.
Surprised it hasn't been taken yet.


Though everyone knows true emo kids are less than backslash three.

Come on, isn't it obvious? Pop in general just plain sucks at life. Any female pop artist, like Britney, Christina, Avril, Jessica, and many many more who are idolized by stupid spoiled underage teen girls. Basically anything that the pretty, preppy girls think is so cool is definitely so stupid-as-hell, so you can sum my answer up to: American Pop. Doesn't matter. If it's a pop sensation, the world could do without it.

Indeed.

You see the only issue I have is that I like a bit out of all genres, besides, of course Country (someone I believe everyone here hates but doesn't even bother to put it because everyone knows no one important listens to country.)


Holy Mackeral! Come on. There's no need to generalize an entire genre! Every genre has it's greats, it's just a matter of sifting through the truckloads of crap that the mainstream media bombards us with to find them. In my experience, every genre seems to be composed of a multitude of splinter categories, country included. Just like every other genre, if you're counting on being fed quality music while listening to commercial radio, you'll be disappointed. The crap coming out of Nashville these days isn't fit for bumwipe. However, there is plenty of great old country ( Johnny Cash, Hank Williams, Patsy Kline...) not to mention Bluegrass, Honkey Tonk, or Country Swing. Also worth checking out are the many current country bands that will never get played on the radio (check out anything on Bloodshot Records). I realize that it is difficult to fully explore a genre in order to find something you like but to completely dismiss an entire genre of music is sad. Country music as well as the blues has helped form music as we hear it today. Just think of what the Rolling Stones would've sounded like without the influence of Gram Parsons.

However, can you name me one grunge song that is about "how many girls they would have liked to have fucked in the last three minutes"? :p

I could name about three if I actually bothered to find out the track names. Your right, not all of them do, and your right, I'd rather listen to that then rap about how much there life is the shiz. However if I had a choice I'd listen to neither and listen to classic rock. Which reminds me...




Maybe you should have a look at the lyrics of a lot of classic rock. A lot of it is self loathing, and much of it about women. I think your statement "how many girls they would have liked to have fucked in the last three minutes (ironically also a number between 1-100. Albeit normally this is cleverly disguised as some sort of romantic ballad, its really a creepy sonnet of a stalker." fits the Doors in particular quite well. :p


Only one problem. I really don't like either Led Zepplin or the Doors. However, for sake of an arguement, I like them a lot better then whiny EMO music. Why? Because the music in the background is a lot better, they aren't actually "whining" (aka there still "singing" about this sort of thing). This is unlike EMO where they play either A) twangy depressing music in the background or B) Guitar A la Heavy Metal that fails at being Heavy or Metal and again, just turns out depressing. They lyrics may be no less whinier then others, but their presentation almost is like their begging for attention. "Oh boo hoo, our life sucks so bad, look at how whiny we are. Now go please buy our next album if you have a shred of decency, for otherwise we cannot afford another lexus... woe is me!" It just doesn't work. Classic Rock however, most of it, was indeed about girls and the like, but they don't present it out so harshly. Its in the sort of hippy style of "Dude, our life totally sucks. Lets find some girls and screw them! Yay!" While this doesn't really sound like something we'd like to listen to, at the very least it provides easier listening and more focus on the awesome music then the fact that indeed, there life sucks. Consider 2 more cents thrown.

Holy Mackeral! Come on. There's no need to generalize an entire genre! Every genre has it's greats, it's just a matter of sifting through the truckloads of crap that the mainstream media bombards us with to find them. In my experience, every genre seems to be composed of a multitude of splinter categories, country included. Just like every other genre, if you're counting on being fed quality music while listening to commercial radio, you'll be disappointed. The crap coming out of Nashville these days isn't fit for bumwipe. However, there is plenty of great old country ( Johnny Cash, Hank Williams, Patsy Kline...) not to mention Bluegrass, Honkey Tonk, or Country Swing. Also worth checking out are the many current country bands that will never get played on the radio (check out anything on Bloodshot Records). I realize that it is difficult to fully explore a genre in order to find something you like but to completely dismiss an entire genre of music is sad. Country music as well as the blues has helped form music as we hear it today. Just think of what the Rolling Stones would've sounded like without the influence of Gram Parsons.


Alright alright, maybe I was a bit unfair with country. But its just that, like I said, mainstream media country, which is what most people think of when I say "country" is bullshit. Absolute. Bullshit. There is possibly, 1, or 2, mainstream media country stars that I'd tolerate listening to. Both of them are probably women. As I said, I'm not a fan of male country singers, because they sound like there either gargling, or dying. I don't mind blues, another thing that I'll throw out. Jazz I loath as well, but again, even that I can find some gems in. So all in all I like a little bit of everything, which goes back to the original comment that spawned this one. It's hard to say I completely hate something because I'll find something I like about it 2 seconds later. Anyway, there are certain bands I loath, mostly pop like bands, or pop rock (a name best left to the candy) but even there I like some of them. So I don't know what I hate really, just what I like better then other things.

[QUOTE=Silver-Wings]I was talking to my mate today and this song called "The Chicken Song" came on and the bloosy thing has been stuck in my head ever since.

It it got me thinking...there are so many groups out there that everyone hates, and very few that people actually like. So my question is:

What music soloists/groups/bands do you just hate and why. List as many as you want. Here are my guys:

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5. Korn - I can never understand what the bloody hell they are saying, and to be honest, when 90% of your track is made up of screaming, well, enough said...

4. Natasha Bedingfield - I don't know what it is about her...she just bloody irratates me. I'm sick of the sound of her voice. And let's face it, the lyrics are not exactly complex.

3. Gwen Stefani - AAAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!! SHUT HER UP! IN THE NAME OF ALL THINGS CRISPY, SHUT HER UP!

"What you waiting...What you waiting for"

"FOR SOMEONE TO JUST SHOOT YOU!!!"

2. Busted - thankfully now gone. Now it wasn't the singing that got to me. It was the fact they thought they could be "rockers" with their jumping about (ooh, REAL rocking guys). Look at the bloody lyrics of any song.

"I like the way you dress
Though I hate to fly
But I feel much better
Occupied my mind
Writing you a love letter
I messed my pants
When we flew over France
Will I see you soon
In my hotel room
For a holiday romance?
Air hostess"

ANY MORON WITH A RYHMING DICTIONARY COULD HAVE COME UP WITH THAT!

1. Electric Six - ok, these guys did a cover of Radio Ga Ga and in their video they blatantly took the piss out of Freddy Mercury - disrepective bastards. Not only that, but they are just strange freaks. You only have to see and hear "High Voltage" and "Gay Bar" to know what I mean.

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OK guys, who do you guys pick?[/busted nd mcfly! busted dont even play real guitars they have a band who do it for them!!!! and the lyrics..its already been said....]

I hate most of the rappers today, and all of the media-created, middriff brearing bimbos that dominate today's music scene. While i do like Green Day, American idiot is DEFINETELY not as good as some of the older stuff. The one exception for rape is the track "Mockingbird" by Eminem. I find it rather creative in an area of music where most of it is: i want to screw this girl, i hate this guy, i got shot, BLAH, BLAH BLAH

Only one problem. I really don't like either Led Zepplin or the Doors. However, for sake of an arguement, I like them a lot better then whiny EMO music.

Hey, I was defending grunge, I don't care for emo either :p

Hey, I was defending grunge, I don't care for emo either :p

Emo is lame, man. Compared to 80's Hardcore like Husker Du, it's nothing.

*MSN, hey?

*MSN, hey?

No, I have to get up at 7...it's now 4:10. Heh. sleep.

No, I have to get up at 7...it's now 4:10. Heh. sleep.

Damn. My plan has been foiled.

*continues listening to Husker Du*

anyway, I don't care for any of the punk rock bands that all sound the same. Jimmy Eat World, Nine Inch Nails, that kind of stuff. The music isn't bad, there's just way too much of it.
Erm...for the bit in bold - JEW and NIN aren't the same sort of music. One is modern-punk-pop-rock (JEW), the other is kinda hard to pin down...I'll just say industrial, it encompasses a lot.
For the bit in italics - you could say that of any type of music. And modern 'punk rock' is a lot less prevalent commercially than teen-pop, rap and R&B.

I hate most of the rappers today, and all of the media-created, middriff brearing bimbos that dominate today's music scene. While i do like Green Day, American idiot is DEFINETELY not as good as some of the older stuff. The one exception for rape is the track "Mockingbird" by Eminem. I find it rather creative in an area of music where most of it is: i want to screw this girl, i hate this guy, i got shot, BLAH, BLAH BLAH
I like eminem, but I don't buy his cds? Why? Because msot of the stuff on his cds is shit, him being the druggy rapper discovered on some radio that he is. He occasionally puts out some deep stuff or some playable music, but most of it is junk. And mainstream rap sucks, they jsut stick in catchy repetitive beats in the background and say stupid shit. Need mroe Jurassic 5 albums damnit

and to be honest, when 90% of your track is made up of screaming, well, enough said...

that logic is retarded.

I concer, screaming is sometimes the only, or at least best way to show an emotion.

Basically Pop & Emo, that's really all I can say because that about sums everything up.

Talk about Screaming: I actually sorta agree with both sides. Screaming throughout 90% of the song does sorta say something. Its hard to understand, its annoying, and if you happen to be listening to it over headphones it can really... really.... hurt your eardrums.

However, the other side is true. Some emotions are just better expressed with an insane ass load of screeching. Granted, most of those emotions I'm not a terrible fan of listening to in a song, they are there.

All in all I don't really like screaming, whenever I hear a band that is just screaming over and over about how much something sucks, or how much they hate something, I just want to turn it off and rub my poor ears until the ringing stops.

About everything which is from the genre hardstyle.

cant imagine people listening to the predictive form of 'soft hardcore', any other form of electronic music is better then that, even that vague stuff they call minimal.

oh and r&b usually (95%) of the times sucks the dicks they pretend to put in the easy girls who listen to it

Eiffel 65...I have one of their CD's...haven't listened to it in awhile though.

anyway, I don't care for any of the punk rock bands that all sound the same. Jimmy Eat World, Nine Inch Nails, that kind of stuff. The music isn't bad, there's just way too much of it.

and Powerman 5000 is the best band ever.



...........what the hell....you so just followed I don't like punk rock with NIN.....