Where Are The Authoritarians???!!!
Defuniak
17-07-2005, 03:19
It seems there are next to none of the former authoritarian legions!
Am i the only one left.....
probably not....
but why are they not speaking up? Why are there so few nowadays? What all of a sudden made the libertarian point of view so great?
I want a poll, how can i get one???
They're hiding from me. I eat authoritarians. :D
Wealthy Gentlemen
17-07-2005, 03:34
Give 'em a break. It's a hard life oppressing the masses. You can't blame them for not having as much time as they want to talk with fellow authoritarians.
Holyawesomeness
17-07-2005, 03:34
I tend a bit towards authoritarianism. Why are you asking?
Give 'em a break. It's a hard life oppressing the masses. You can't blame them for not having as much time as they want to talk with fellow authoritarians.Yeah, it's a hard and lonely life, ruling the multiverse with an iron fist.... *me sighs*
Maybe they realized that unless your group is in charge, authoritarianism sucks.
Neo Kervoskia
17-07-2005, 03:41
I'm an authoritarian, but only on weekends.
Defuniak
17-07-2005, 03:46
They're hiding from me. I eat authoritarians. :D
uh oh.... *hides under bed*
uh oh.... *hides under bed*Don't be scared little boy! (girl?) I won't eat you! I'll even give you this nice little ethnic group to oppress! *licks lips and sharpens claws*
Seriously, I can be described as a "Socialist Libertarian": maximum freedom, but big business shouldn't have too much power (being at the mercy of big business myself, I've adopted that ideology).
Maybe they realized that unless your group is in charge, authoritarianism sucks.
What was the epiphany in your sig?
It seems there are next to none of the former authoritarian legions!
Am i the only one left.....
probably not....
but why are they not speaking up? Why are there so few nowadays? What all of a sudden made the libertarian point of view so great?
I want a poll, how can i get one???Go to "Thread Tools" in the top right and select the poll option from the drop-down menu. Then fill out the form as required.
Holyawesomeness
17-07-2005, 04:05
Don't be scared little boy! (girl?) I won't eat you! I'll even give you this nice little ethnic group to oppress! *licks lips and sharpens claws*
What how dare you try to harm the great authoritarian peoples! Communo-death-Nazi Stormtroopers ATTACK!!!! *then runs off to whimper in a corner*
What how dare you try to harm the great authoritarian peoples! Communo-death-Nazi Stormtroopers ATTACK!!!! *then runs off to whimper in a corner*
:mp5: :mp5: :mp5: :mp5: :mp5:Cut out the offensive smilies please!
Yeah? Well against you we have the Liberal Socialist Libertarian Hippie Democratic Non-interventionist Whig Gay Pro-Choice Anti-Gun Army of DOOM! Chaaarge! ;)
Holyawesomeness
17-07-2005, 04:14
Cut out the offensive smilies please!
Yeah? Well against you we have the Liberal Socialist Libertarian Hippie Democratic Non-interventionist Whig Gay Pro-Choice Anti-Gun Army of DOOM! Chaaarge! ;)
Did not know that those smilies were that offensive. But my evil legions will win this fight and conquer your weak democracy or die trying and give me enough time to escape like a sniveling coward. :p
Mesatecala
17-07-2005, 04:16
I'm tough here. I rule the nation with an iron fist. The people will be better with my policies in the end. At least I don't have a fragile or imploded economy. :rolleyes:
Holyawesomeness
17-07-2005, 04:23
Hey, many authoritarian governments have good economies. My government has a thriving economy, I just do not like whiners and immorality and that is why my nation is the dictatorship/monarchy/theocracy it is today.(besides who needs freedom when you have good healthcare? :D )
Mesatecala
17-07-2005, 04:26
Hey, many authoritarian governments have good economies. My government has a thriving economy, I just do not like whiners and immorality and that is why my nation is the dictatorship/monarchy/theocracy it is today.(besides who needs freedom when you have good healthcare? :D )
:)
If you look at what I said, I did say authoritarian + capitalism is an excellent mix. I got a powerhouse.. but who needs their political freedoms? The people are best listening to the leader who directs good policies that makes the economy powerful.
Did not know that those smilies were that offensive. But my evil legions will win this fight and conquer your weak democracy or die trying and give me enough time to escape like a sniveling coward. :pSomehow the description of my army didn't seem all that impressive as it was supposed to be... *runs away* :eek:
Eutrusca
17-07-2005, 04:37
It seems there are next to none of the former authoritarian legions!
Am i the only one left.....
probably not....
but why are they not speaking up? Why are there so few nowadays? What all of a sudden made the libertarian point of view so great?
I want a poll, how can i get one???
They all died and went to Authoritarian Heaven. Unfortunately, they're not allowed out. :D
Eutrusca
17-07-2005, 04:39
who needs freedom when you have good healthcare? :D
Yeah, you might live longer, but then the question becomes, "Why would you want to?" :)
They all died and went to Authoritarian Heaven. Unfortunately, they're not allowed out. :DNo, it's quite fortunate. There are fewer of them to counter our Liberal Socialist Libertarian Hippie Democratic Non-interventionist Whig Gay Pro-Choice Anti-Gun Army of DOOM!!! :D
Holyawesomeness
17-07-2005, 05:42
:)
If you look at what I said, I did say authoritarian + capitalism is an excellent mix. I got a powerhouse.. but who needs their political freedoms? The people are best listening to the leader who directs good policies that makes the economy powerful.
I am not even sure that my government is really capitalist, it still is trying to run 14-year olds off of the street because of the lucrative lemonade industry. My people do benefit from a good defense, from good law enforcement, from progressive policies for education and social welfare(even a devotion to social welfare). I doubt that most people out there use most of their freedoms that much anyway. I think that most humans are mainly concerned that they have a decent deal when it comes to how good their standard of living is(which can include whether or not they are starving).
Holyawesomeness
17-07-2005, 05:45
Yeah, you might live longer, but then the question becomes, "Why would you want to?" :)
Why not? I am not killing puppies, in fact my people are quite compassionate. They also receive good education and my government is devoted to social welfare. Besides when you serve the holy emperor the worst pain is but a small price to receive his holy favor.
Holyawesomeness
17-07-2005, 05:50
No, it's quite fortunate. There are fewer of them to counter our Liberal Socialist Libertarian Hippie Democratic Non-interventionist Whig Gay Pro-Choice Anti-Gun Army of DOOM!!! :D
The authoritarians will wage war until the last man, woman and/or child has died in battle. Then we will all kill ourselves while hiding in our collective bunkers. :p
Even if you win we will deny you the pleasure of imprisoning us for life in a prison that seems like a palace that is filled with jesus-like rehabilitators(that of course are gay hippie secular humanists).
Pure Perfection
17-07-2005, 06:04
My nation has gone from Frightening to All Consuming off and on the past weeks. Like a cycle. But when I restrict my rights it goes back to All Consuming. This is why I bealive the game favours the civil rights captilist countries. Well, not why I bealive but I think most realise that.
Also strange thing is on NS Economy I only fund Commerce 7% and my defence last I checked as like 46% :D.
Meh, im tired, my internets lagging, and im a sad donkey, so shush! :(
Holyawesomeness
17-07-2005, 06:13
My nation has gone from Frightening to All Consuming off and on the past weeks. Like a cycle. But when I restrict my rights it goes back to All Consuming. This is why I bealive the game favours the civil rights captilist countries. Well, not why I bealive but I think most realise that.
Maybe the game thinks that free markets with people that are free to do as they like have the best economies due to the rapid flow of money while people with people that work like ants have inefficient economies due to the lack of incentive.
The game obviously opposes us and our totalitarian regimes. WE MUST OVERTHROW THE GAME!!
On second thought no, it is still fun telling my ant people that they are not allowed to do anything. :)
What was the epiphany in your sig?
That government should have absolutely no say in social matters. Simply because current traditionalism agrees with me, doesn’t mean I should support its influence on government. What is considered traditional may disagree with me someday, and I would hate if the government was involved in it, even if it was merely “promoting” it and not enforcing it. It seems that on the moral compass, I now sit on the line between ultra capitalist, and economic liberalism.
Holyawesomeness
17-07-2005, 06:37
That government should have absolutely no say in social matters.
Well, I could disagree with that to some extent. Social matters create externalities in our societies. Those who are altruistic and responsible help us and society while those are selfish and irresponsible negatively affect us and our society.
The fact is that irresponsible sexual activity is responsible for many bastards and people married because of foolishness(as well as the spread of STDs and the damaging of marital relations in cases of affairs). These acts hurt both the individual, the children created under those circumstances, and society because we have to deal with the problems that these children create.
Smoking reduces the lives and health of those who indulge, this puts stress on the medical system, the time spent out of work hurts the companies that hire those people, the second-hand smoke hurts those who spend any time around the smoker, the addiction makes it difficult to those who start to quit, the early death causes great discontent in the family and friends of the smoker and decreases their ability to contribute to society to some extent(time off for funeral and inefficiency caused by sadness and depression).
The only way to effectively combat these social economic externalities is to enforce morality and to have a government that has a say in social matters.
Well, I could disagree with that to some extent. Social matters create externalities in our societies. Those who are altruistic and responsible help us and society while those are selfish and irresponsible negatively affect us and our society.
I don’t agree with that. Both selfish and altruistic people help society. How many doctors do you think are actually in it to help people?
The fact is that irresponsible sexual activity is responsible for many bastards and people married because of foolishness(as well as the spread of STDs and the damaging of marital relations in cases of affairs). These acts hurt both the individual, the children created under those circumstances, and society because we have to deal with the problems that these children create.
I don’t see this as a thing for the government to solve, but private charities and organizations. The government can only educate, that doesn’t mean people will listen to them. If people use protection, then those irresponsible sexual acts become less severe. Hard labor as a punishment for crime and elimination of welfare to those who are not actively seeking employment will cut down on the economic drain of “bastards”. Also, are you advocating the government tell people who can and can’t get married?
Smoking reduces the lives and health of those who indulge, this puts stress on the medical system, the time spent out of work hurts the companies that hire those people, the second-hand smoke hurts those who spend any time around the smoker, the addiction makes it difficult to those who start to quit, the early death causes great discontent in the family and friends of the smoker and decreases their ability to contribute to society to some extent(time off for funeral and inefficiency caused by sadness and depression).
This is why I am for the government allowing companies to be able to fire employees or deny health insurance if they smoke. The economic incentive would fix the problem over time, without need of unnecessary laws and taxes.
The only way to effectively combat these social economic externalities is to enforce morality and to have a government that has a say in social matters.
;)
Holyawesomeness
17-07-2005, 14:54
Altruistic people have a tendency to help society more than those who are not altruistic, selfish people have a tendency to help less(altruistic helps others and others are society while selfish helps self even at the disadvantage to society).
I said both selfish and irresponsible(that combo could not make a good doctor). Just selfish is mildly bad while irresponsible is also bad. Selfish and irresponsible people tend to hurt our society or at the very least they do not create as much benefit as they could.
The fact that you do not see the issue in a certain way does not mean that those people do not come at an economic cost. Besides this thread is about authoritarianism, I think that people should only get married after psychological evaluation. I also think that private organizations do not have the power that is required to end the problem only the government can "brainwash" the people sufficiently. Finally, my problem with the bastards is that they can be inefficient, because hard labor may not be the best way to handle their talents but it is the only way due to their rebelliousness, these people also can be a drain because of their crimes and other things.
I think that the government should ban smoking because of all of its negative qualities.
Those 2 issues are but the tip of the iceburg, I think that government not only has to enforce morality but it also has to educate people in the subject as well AKA brainwashing.